Alanmane: try hard

[Alanmane]

16 hours ago, Nelly said:

Hello

I understand what you say about your thoughts, that others see you as strange for being quieter. I have similar thoughts because I am not as loud as others sometimes, but I tell myself I don’t want to be loud like them. Sometimes I want to be quiet.  This is how I am. Some people like me. I am sure there are many people who like you. And yes I am in no doubt that people notice my low mood at times, as you think. But It is ok. Accept that this is how you are right now. I understand, try not to worry about it. 

Thank you very much for your words, it is beautiful that someone who knows your situation sends you these messages.

 

I guess I have to accept how I feel now and wait to stabilize, I know that I can somehow gain confidence and confidence in myself even by having these horrible withdrawal symptoms.

 

I hope you are well.

[Alanmane]

Yesterday I forgot to take my dose until night and I felt better than if I took it at noon, which is when I take it. It is a fact that I feel much better before taking effexor than after taking it, it is like my body is becoming intolerant of this drug. On the one hand I would like to reduce faster because of the bad being but I can't risk going fast ... It's strange because I should feel worse when I lack blood effexor but it's the other way around.

[Nelly]

Hello

It is tempting to taper faster when we feel ok, I agree, but it is risky and we may suffer more as a result. Go steady x

[Alanmane]

Hello! Just note that I am 60 pearls of an effexor 37.5mg capsule (within one there are approximately 150 pearls). I am at a very low dose and it is not being easy on some things, especially I feel insecure, with irrational and agitated fear.

 

My last cut was 10 pearls a month and a half ago and I plan to continue for a while until I stabilize. I really see the light at the end of the tunnel but it won't be easy, I have a lot to recover. I do bad things even though I don't feel that they are a great danger, once a week I drink some Beer and very occasionally some recreational drug (in moderation).

 

I know it's not right, I get carried away by hedonism. It is something irresponsible and self-destructive on my part. I just hope to continue reducing and someday be able to be functional without any drugs.

[Alanmane]

Update: I am now 45 pearls of effexor, and very little. At the moment it is not being horrible, I have had a worse time decreasing at higher doses, I will continue to reduce when the body asks me to do so without following any rules. Right now my symptoms of WD are: moderate brain fog, it has been worse and it seems that every time I go below the dose it improves. Restlessness. Insomnia the first days when I reduce a few pearls. Bad mood and painful feelings without becoming extreme, I feel anger, fear, sadness ... Pessimistic attitudes and little motivation, anhedonia.

 

It is not terrible and I am doing well, I hope to soon reach 0mg and start the real fight of a life without drugs. I totally respect the advice of reducing 10% and everything else, I simply adapt everything I have learned and act as my body tells me, I know very well how my WD is going and I know there is no danger, and this is proof of I'm right, if not months ago my methodology would not have worked.

 

Much love

[Manny78]

Hello Alanmane.My name is Manuel or Manny. I am from Galicia.Currently,tapering Risperidona.I see that you are tapering Venlafaxina,an antidepressant.I will have to taper off Cymbalta counting the pearls too.I am heavily medicated.I  take two antipsychotics (Abilify and risperdal),cymbalta 60mg,klonopin 0,25mg and biperiden (anti-parkinsonian). I would like to talk with you if you want.

[Alanmane]

On 18/12/2019 at 12:39, Manny78 said:

Hola Alanmane, mi nombre es Manuel o Manny. Soy de Galicia. Actualmente, disminuyendo Risperidona. Veo que disminuyes Venlafaxina, un antidepresivo. También tendré que disminuir Cymbalta contando las perlas. Estoy muy medicado. Tomo dos antipsicóticos (Abilify y risperdal), Cymbalta 60mg. , klonopin 0,25mg y biperiden (antiparkinsoniano). Me gustaría hablar contigo si quieres.

Hola Manuel, claro que podemos hablar. Agrégame a Facebook : Alan Calpe Puig. Un saludo 

[Alanmane]

Today I felt pretty bad in general, it's hitting my last cut. During the day I have been thinking about whether a low dose of marijuana would alleviate the symptoms, I know that it is not something recommended and that it can complicate things, however my curiosity has made me try a little.

 

The result is that it relieves body tension and helps to remove the anguish, yet I doubt that I repeat the experience because it is not something I can do on a daily basis and it does not affect my condition at all. I just hope this wave of WD doesn't last long. 40 pearls to reach 0mg

[Altostrata]

On 6/13/2019 at 7:06 PM, Altostrata said:

Alan, treat yourself gently, have patience. Your nervous system needs to settle from your venlafaxine reduction. It will settle, you have seen it settle before.

 

Alan, in October, you said you were taking about 17mg, how is it you're at the end only 4 months later?

 

It might be a good time to stop tapering and let your system settle down. It looks like you were having adverse effects from venlafaxine at higher doses, but you were doing better when you got down to lower doses. There is no reason for you to force your way down to zero and then have to cope with withdrawal syndrome after.

 

We don't know what marijuana would do.

[Alanmane]

Hi Alto. The mg is approximate, I am at 40 pearls and for me it is near the end (counting that one of my 37.5mg capsules has about 160 pearls inside), I imagine that I will be taking about 10mg. I will not run although I am anxious to reach the end.                                        About marijuana, I tried a small amount and noticed some relief in physical tension but I don't like feeling mentally stunned, it could be useful on sleepless nights in a timely manner. I will not spoil it, I will reach the end when I can. Thanks Alto.

[Alanmane]

40 perlas que no reduciré en al menos un mes o dos y cuando lo haga, reduciré una pequeña dosis.

 

Todavía me cuesta entender cómo eliminar 5 bolas ridículas puede empeorar los síntomas durante días, el nivel de dependencia de effexor es absurdo.

 

Durante unos días tengo: insomnio moderado, anhedonia, dificultad para concentrarse, memorizar, pensar, crear ... Esto es lo peor para mí porque me hace sentir estúpido, especialmente cuando inconscientemente me comparo con personas sin este problema que tengo. . Lo que sí sé es que quejarse y lamentarse es inútil y ya me he torturado demasiado por la depresión, la psiquiatría ... Solo puedo actuar lo mejor que puedo, incluso si no siento nada positivo y todo me empuja al vacío.

 

En momentos como estos, me pregunto si lo que siento es una causa de tener menos drogas en el cuerpo o si es por mi depresión. Seguramente es una mezcla de las dos causas. Me gustaría saber cómo sentirme menos frágil y dañado.

[Alanmane]

I made a mistake when making my last two venlafaxine reductions, I cut very little for two weeks and then I made another small cut.

The two small reductions have come together and now I have been affected by apathy, bad mood, feeling less present, difficult to concentrate and think, low self-esteem and insecurity, I feel bad for absurd things like the one my lack of joy can annoy my coworkers. I will not reduce in a good time and taking into account that I have been given a place at work that I wanted (care of people with cerebral palsy), even more reason for not altering things.

 

I still have a hard time understanding how they gave me this place if I perceive myself wrong, forgetful, taciturn ... Something will be good for them to see. I also realize that I must cut the habit of socially drinking alcohol, lately I have been doing it quite often and it does not help me, I do it just to enjoy the moment but it is counterproductive.

 

In short, I'm on a wave and I feel like depression is gaining ground but I have to believe it's just WD, I've been really depressed and this is much better than a deep depression.

 

Hugs.

[Alanmane]

Good new year to everyone who reads it.

 

I start the year with concerns about my mental state. Not more than a week and a few days ago I reduced my dose from 50 pearls to 40. Since then everything is worse, the most painful and frustrating thing is that I have returned to work in a residence for people with cebreral paralysis and there is a lot of information to assimilate (rooms of each resident, guidelines, types of food, times for each task ...) and I feel that I do not retain the information as it should be, my mind is blank, dead.

 

I know that some time ago it would have been easier for me to learn these things and now I simply cannot access memories, data, ideas ... but I have 6 months of contract and I will do it. Everything is absurdly difficult and I tend to think that depression is coming back and it's not all because of WD.

 

I wonder if what happens to me is common, more than physical symptoms is all mental, unpleasant emotions, clumsiness when expressing myself, depersonalization, agitation, bad memory, lousy concentration ... It is difficult for me not to feel inferior to others when I see that they work Good and not me.

[Alanmane]

Improving slightly compared to a few days ago. The mistake was to reduce 5 pearls and a week to reduce 5 more, the two cuts joined together and hit hard. Lesson learned, I will not reduce more than 5 pearls at a time, this drug is absurdly potent.

 

Current symptoms with 40 pearls of venlafaxine rx: *

 

Moderate acatisia, hypersomnia, lack of concentration, difficulty finding words, expressing yourself, difficult to memorize, distress and low mood, low self-esteem, brain fog, obsession with my current state.

 

I realize that I am unfair to myself and demand too much, I do not allow myself to be wrong and I think that deep down I seek to destroy myself by not accepting to see myself as I am now.

 

This is something unconscious but I would swear that it is. I will try to take care of myself more and I will not touch my dose in a good time. If someone is in the final doses of effexor and wants to give me a tip or talk, welcome.

 

Greetings.

[Altostrata]

Good to hear you're feeling a bit better, Alanmane. As you know, we advise a 10% reduction per month. Reducing to 40 beads from 50 beads is a 20% reduction.

[Alanmane]

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Es bueno saber que te sientes un poco mejor, Alanmane. Como saben, aconsejamos una reducción del 10% por mes. Reducir a 40 cuentas de 50 cuentas es una reducción del 20%.

I trusted myself to see that the amount was so small, I thought that 10 ridiculous pearls would not be a big problem. It is hard to believe while vibrating it that there is so much power in a small sphere. Luckily everything is going better little by little, I will not make a mistake like that. Thanks high and happy new year.

[Altostrata]

Happy new year to you!

[Alanmane]

On 5/1/2020 at 3:11, Altostrata said:

¡Feliz Año Nuevo para usted!

 

On 5/1/2020 at 3:11, Altostrata said:

¡Feliz Año Nuevo para usted!

Happy New year Alto! 

Since the last cut I made I am having significant difficulties and I no longer know if this has to do totally with the removal of effexor.

 

Basically I find my mind blank all the time, unable to remember things that have happened a while ago at work, forgetful and clumsy (or so I think), I have to pretend a minimum of good humor at work and this exhausts.

 

I have trouble planning tasks in my mind, I almost feel shocked all the time and thinking logically is difficult. I have a 6 month contract in a residency of people with cerebral palsy and I have to learn a lot of information and follow a high work pace, I must also be a retailer and be very careful.

 

If I can do this while in the state I am in, I will be an immensely strong person. Being honest I am ashamed to be like this and I feel inferior intellectually although I am almost certain that my cognitive difficulties are the effect of my emotional state.

 

Any advice is grateful.

[Altostrata]

Foggy brain and inability to concentrate are common withdrawal symptoms.

 

You're probably more capable than you know -- keep at it, you can learn your new job. Exercising your brain may help it along.

[Alanmane]

21 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Foggy brain and inability to concentrate are common withdrawal symptoms.

 

You're probably more capable than you know -- keep at it, you can learn your new job. Exercising your brain may help it along.

Thanks for the words of support, although this is tremendously difficult for me I will continue. This must be WD since it has appeared so strongly since the last cut of 5 pearls +5 pearls. It is very hard to find yourself with cognitive difficulties but you just have to keep trying and fighting. This wave will pass.

[Alanmane]

Después de alcanzar 40 perlas y sufrir durante dos semanas, decidí agregar dos perlas más y un poco parece haber ayudado. De todos modos, mi cognición se ve afectada, como mi estado de ánimo, paso muchas horas trabajando con personas afectadas por parálisis cerebral y el trabajo es nuevo, llevo dos semanas y dos meses antes, pero no recuerdo muchas cosas.

 

Me siento incapaz muchas veces e inferior a mis compañeros de clase porque no recuerdo las cosas, me resulta difícil pensar en el recuerdo (por no decidir que no pienso nada mientras actúo), soy inseguro y muy nervioso, a veces No puedo hablar bien.

 

 

Sé que solo tengo que esperar para mejorar y cuidarme, pero realmente siento que la depresión está surgiendo nuevamente (bajo estado de ánimo, dificultad para pensar, toma de decisiones, autoestima, fatiga, etc.) ) estos síntomas son depresión clásica y están volviendo ahora que estoy en una dosis tan baja. ¿Se supone que debo creer que es WD y no mi depresión? No puedo estar seguro y, en caso de que se trate de depresión, no creo que pueda solucionarse fácilmente.

 

Estoy desesperado después de tantos años luchando con esto, sé que puedo ser feliz y mi mente puede ser rápida.

[Alanmane]

This is the time I have maintained a dose for a longer time .42 pearls of effexor xr, today I have dropped to 40 after two months. The truth is that not everything is horrible but I am having problems mainly when it comes to work, I need a clear and agile mind and I don't have any of that. I forget things quickly, under stress I block and my mind does not work fast, I am at defensive all the time and the worst is that I feel inferior to the rest because I see clearly that I am slower than the others (although I do my job well within what fits). I have to believe that brain fog is due to withdrawal and that I'm really not an idiot but it's hard to feel good. I need mental energy to function and at the moment I have it very low, I am tired of fighting for years and I fear that I may never be quick and intelligent again.

[Alanmane]

To 37 pearls of a 37.5mg capsule of venlafaxine (160 pearls approx in one capsule). I am adapting to my work as a caregiver of people with brain damage although I have memory difficulties, concentration, mental agility, I feel anxious many times, low mood, I feel fear and irrational shame, unworthy ... Now my biggest concern is that I am at a very low dose after two years of reduction, I am tired of this trip and I am suffering from symptoms that can perfectly be depression (it would be the worst), or else these symptoms may be withdrawal.

 

I do not think there is a way to know and if they cause underlying depression I do not know if they will disappear. I know well what a deep depression is and I recognize symptoms that I now have even milder than in the past. It is distressing to forget things that just happened or information that I need to retain is impossible to access, it makes me feel silly even though it is all emotional in nature. If anyone has any idea what I could do from now on to tell me, I don't want to get stuck but I don't want this to get worse.

[Alanmane]

Comment on my situation: A few days ago I went from 37 pearls to 27 without realizing it, my ability to concentrate is somewhat poor lately, I realized reading my latest forum posts that I discounted 10 pearls without knowing it. The truth is that he did not return to 37 and I am paying it, these days I am feeling quite bad, without energy when I get up, I can hardly think clearly, I forget things in a few seconds, I feel ridiculous and inferior for being like this, I feel meaningless nothing positive and my mind is chaos.

 

I am hardly hungry, I have diarrhea and I feel sick. What scares me the most is the lack of concentration power (although I continue to work caring for people with cerebral palsy and with the addition of the coronavirus and the difficult situation).

 

Tomorrow I will take some pearl to relieve this pain, I feel my system off and lifeless, the brain dead. This is horrible. I want to believe that it is abstinence and not pure depression.

[Cocopuffz17]

Hey, I know exactly what you are talking about. I felt like that for a good 5-8 months. I could barely do a basic math calculation and my concentration was toast. I am now back at the job that I went to school for and have been able concentrate way better.I am a Journeyman Electrician, I have to calculate things quite often. It will get better! Don't throw out your progress so far.

 

I truly believe nutrition is key to getting off these medications. I was unable to get off without nutrition changes in the past.

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed!!!  

[Alanmane]

23 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

Oye, sé exactamente de qué estás hablando. Me sentí así por unos buenos 5-8 meses. Apenas podía hacer un cálculo matemático básico y mi concentración era tostada. Ahora estoy de vuelta en el trabajo para el que fui a la escuela y he podido concentrarme mucho mejor. Soy un electricista oficial, tengo que calcular las cosas con bastante frecuencia. ¡Se pondrá mejor! No tires tu progreso hasta ahora.

 

Realmente creo que la nutrición es clave para dejar estos medicamentos. No pude salir sin cambios nutricionales en el pasado.

 

¡Cada día que pasa está un día más cerca de ser sanado!  

It is incredible that these severe symptoms are the effect of reducing ridiculous mg, but it is totally true, these drugs are extremely powerful. It reset to 30 pearls and did not diminish in a good while. What foods helped you improve? I cannot deny that I am very afraid of this situation, it is about my ability to reason, process ideas, organize ... it is quite bad. I don't know how to do it so that it doesn't affect my self-esteem anymore, I feel like an idiot. thanks for the support

[Cocopuffz17]

3 minutes ago, Alanmane said:

It is incredible that these severe symptoms are the effect of reducing ridiculous mg, but it is totally true, these drugs are extremely powerful. It reset to 30 pearls and did not diminish in a good while. What foods helped you improve? I cannot deny that I am very afraid of this situation, it is about my ability to reason, process ideas, organize ... it is quite bad. I don't know how to do it so that it doesn't affect my self-esteem anymore, I feel like an idiot. thanks for the support

 

Yes, these medication effect much much more than the doctors say they do. I don't know if it is ignorance on their part or what. But none the less it is challenging as can be. 

 

I follow the lifestyle laid out by Dr. Gundry in The Plant Paradox. I have tried numerous times before to come off my medication and was unable. This time I did a 180 on my nutrition and have been off for almost 14 months now. Hardest thing I have ever done was get off this medication. You can to! 

 

It is normal to be afraid. I was terrified before I found this forum. I had no idea and then once I knew what was happening I was relieved alright this is withdrawals. I will get through this and I am so close to being out the other side. Stability is key... I wish i would of did a slow taper, but I followed my doctors recommendations. 

 

Don't feel like an idiot. The brain fog is so challenging to deal with. It makes the simplest of tasks very very challenging. I remember not being able to remember stuff from like 3 seconds prior and I would get so discouraged. 

 

Remember everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed!! 

[Alanmane]

On 22/3/2020 at 1:29, Cocopuffz17 said:

 

Sí, estos medicamentos afectan mucho más de lo que dicen los médicos. No sé si es ignorancia de su parte o qué. Pero, sin embargo, es todo un desafío. 

 

Sigo el estilo de vida establecido por el Dr. Gundry en The Plant Paradox. He intentado varias veces antes dejar mi medicamento y no pude. Esta vez hice un 180 en mi nutrición y he estado fuera por casi 14 meses. Lo más difícil que he hecho fue dejar este medicamento. Puedes hacerlo! 

 

Es normal tener miedo. Estaba aterrorizado antes de encontrar este foro. No tenía idea y luego, una vez que supe lo que estaba sucediendo, me sentí aliviado, esto es retiros. Lo superaré y estoy tan cerca de estar al otro lado. La estabilidad es clave ... Ojalá hubiera hecho una reducción lenta, pero seguí las recomendaciones de mis médicos. 

 

No te sientas como un idiota. La niebla del cerebro es tan difícil de manejar. Hace que la tarea más simple sea muy desafiante. Recuerdo que no pude recordar cosas de hace 3 segundos y me desanimé mucho. 

 

¡Recuerden todos los días que los pases están un día más cerca de ser sanados! 

I'm glad you could improve after an effexor CT, it must be something terrible and difficult to bear, even so with time it improves all this.

 

I really don't take care of my nutrition although I don't eat badly, but I never eat breakfast because I get up late, just eat fruit and drink a lot of coffee ... it's a habit that I have.

 

These days are being difficult due to low spirits as I feel slower mentally, I am aware of it and it affects my self-esteem and my security, I know it is not fair but I live it, the good thing is that I can still work despite having the clouded mind and have no desire or motivation for almost nothing.

 

I just hope to hold on for a while with those 7mg approx and then keep reducing at my rate. I know that everything will change in a short time, I am used to going through different states throughout this process.

 

Greetings and keep doing it as well as you have been doing.

[Alanmane]

El 21/3/2020 a las 1:27, Cocopuffz17 dijo:

Oye, sé exactamente de qué estás hablando. Me envió así por unos buenos 5-8 meses. Apenas podría hacer un cálculo matemático básico y mi concentración era tostada. Ahora estoy de vuelta en el trabajo para el que fui a la escuela y pudo concentrarme mucho mejor. Soy un electricista oficial, tengo que calcular las cosas con bastante frecuencia. ¡Se murió mejor! Sin neumáticos tu progreso hasta ahora.

 

Realmente creo que la nutrición es clave para dejar estos medicamentos. No pude salir sin cambios nutricionales en el pasado.

 

¡Cada día que pasa está un día más cerca de ser sanado!  

Es increíble que estos síntomas severos sean el efecto de reducir mg ridículo, pero es totalmente cierto, estos medicamentos son extremadamente poderosos. Se restableció a 30 perlas y no disminuyó en un buen tiempo. ¿Qué alimentos te ayudan a mejorar? No puedo negar que tengo mucho miedo de esta situación, se trata de mi capacidad de razonar, procesar ideas, organizar ... es bastante malo. No sé cómo hacerlo para que ya no afecte mi autoestima, me siento como un idiota. gracias por el apoyo

[Alanmane]

Good morning.

 

I want to express my concerns here with everything I am experiencing today, after more than two years of reducing effexor. I am 30 pearls out of a 37.5mg capsule (160 pearls total). I am consistent with what I am experiencing, I chose to make the decision to stop this drug no matter how difficult it was and even though I suffered a lot, I still feel confused since my cognition is not very good, along with my state of mind. I have been going through an important inner unease for days (maybe Akhatisia), I feel that when I go to think something it disappears and I am left blank, just like if I want to remember something or have any idea, my creativity has also decreased.

 

All this dysfunction makes me think of several options: Depression is winning the game since I have typical symptoms. Taking less drug makes everything more difficult, maybe my mind is not going to be able to live without effexor and it has made irreversible changes in me.

 

I tend to think that I am suffering from some damage caused by this drug and that I can hardly fix my mind. I have no choice but to keep going despite all this, I don't intend to give up. I am having a hard time accepting my reality and perhaps I am weak because of it, I do not want to regret and that no one feels sorry for me, I know that I am very obsessed with all this but I find it hard not to think of something that I live second by second: I do not feel great energy or physical or mental, I feel anxious, slow mentally, agitated, without appetite, I sleep for many hours, without motivation or joy.

 

My attitude is bad, I may be very tired of enduring so much for so long, maybe I don't feel like going on. This is very strange.

[Cocopuffz17]

13 hours ago, Alanmane said:

Good morning.

 

I want to express my concerns here with everything I am experiencing today, after more than two years of reducing effexor. I am 30 pearls out of a 37.5mg capsule (160 pearls total). I am consistent with what I am experiencing, I chose to make the decision to stop this drug no matter how difficult it was and even though I suffered a lot, I still feel confused since my cognition is not very good, along with my state of mind. I have been going through an important inner unease for days (maybe Akhatisia), I feel that when I go to think something it disappears and I am left blank, just like if I want to remember something or have any idea, my creativity has also decreased.

 

All this dysfunction makes me think of several options: Depression is winning the game since I have typical symptoms. Taking less drug makes everything more difficult, maybe my mind is not going to be able to live without effexor and it has made irreversible changes in me.

 

I tend to think that I am suffering from some damage caused by this drug and that I can hardly fix my mind. I have no choice but to keep going despite all this, I don't intend to give up. I am having a hard time accepting my reality and perhaps I am weak because of it, I do not want to regret and that no one feels sorry for me, I know that I am very obsessed with all this but I find it hard not to think of something that I live second by second: I do not feel great energy or physical or mental, I feel anxious, slow mentally, agitated, without appetite, I sleep for many hours, without motivation or joy.

 

My attitude is bad, I may be very tired of enduring so much for so long, maybe I don't feel like going on. This is very strange.

 

Hello again, never say that ever again. You are not weak for thinking that. This is the hardest thing a person will go through. You are stronger than you can ever imagine! 

 

These are WD symptoms. I had everyone of those and they have got better. I would highly suggest looking at nutrition changes. I know I would of not been able to get through this without nutrition changes. Look into the future and it will be better. Keep telling yourself that! The mind is so POWERFUL. A positive mindset will power you through on the rough days. 

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed!!  

                        

[Alanmane]

19 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

 

Hola de nuevo, nunca digas eso nunca más. No eres débil por pensar eso. Esto es lo más difícil por lo que pasará una persona. ¡Eres más fuerte de lo que puedas imaginar! 

 

Estos son síntomas de WD. Tenía a todos esos y han mejorado. Sugeriría encarecidamente observar los cambios nutricionales. Sé que no habría podido superar esto sin cambios en la nutrición. Mira hacia el futuro y será mejor. ¡Sigue diciéndote eso! La mente es tan PODEROSA. Una mentalidad positiva te ayudará en los días difíciles. 

 

¡Todos los días que pasan están un día más cerca de ser sanados!  

                        

Hi! Thank you very much for the encouragement, we should add healthy foods to my diet, although I don't eat badly, I only sometimes drink too much coffee even if I feel anxious. What I don't eat is a lot of vegetables ... I think my condition will improve in the coming weeks, I must think that I have been taking effexor for years and recently I am in a ridiculously low dose, that is a great change and it scares me. natural. I thank you for your words, I will never give up no matter how difficult this is.

[Cocopuffz17]

1 hour ago, Alanmane said:

Hi! Thank you very much for the encouragement, we should add healthy foods to my diet, although I don't eat badly, I only sometimes drink too much coffee even if I feel anxious. What I don't eat is a lot of vegetables ... I think my condition will improve in the coming weeks, I must think that I have been taking effexor for years and recently I am in a ridiculously low dose, that is a great change and it scares me. natural. I thank you for your words, I will never give up no matter how difficult this is.

 

Hello, Not a problem! Coffee can be a trigger with caffeine. I try to limit or eliminate it altogether. Vegetables are great for the body, you should take a look at the list I follow. https://drgundry.com/dr-gundrys-print-friendly-yes-no-lists/ I only eat from the "Yes" part of this list. 

 

It will get better! Yes, even at low doses these drugs are powerful. The curves of the occupancy of the neurotransmitter are very steep at the last 5-10mg it just drops off a cliff and that is why so many people have the hardest time at the end of the taper. You will get through it though! That is the mindset that will get you through this! Keep on going! 

[Alanmane]

On 27/3/2020 at 1:34, Cocopuffz17 said:

 

Hola, no hay problema! El café puede ser un desencadenante con cafeína. Intento limitarlo o eliminarlo por completo. Las verduras son excelentes para el cuerpo, deberías echar un vistazo a la lista que sigo. https://drgundry.com/dr-gundrys-print-friendly-yes-no-lists/  Solo como de la parte "Sí" de esta lista. 

 

¡Se pondrá mejor! Sí, incluso a dosis bajas, estos medicamentos son potentes. Las curvas de ocupación del neurotransmisor son muy pronunciadas con los últimos 5-10 mg, simplemente cae de un acantilado y es por eso que tantas personas tienen el momento más difícil al final del cono. ¡Aunque lo superarás! ¡Esa es la mentalidad que lo ayudará a superar esto! ¡Sigue adelante! 

Thank you very much for the list and your words! It is a great help to receive feedback from people who know about this topic.

 

I try to limit the caffeine, and it should also reduce the nicotine I get from my vaporizer because I use higher levels of nicotine at work since I can't vape as much. I think nicotine doesn't help me as much, but I'm addicted and now I don't have great willpower. It is strange how the WD evolves month by month, I have gone through many different stages and states lately, for example in 50mg I felt one way, in 37 another, now in another ... you never know how you will feel in the next reduction.

 

Now I am clear that I will wait to feel better before continuing to go low, I did not think it would be so difficult at such low doses but it is. The energy and vitality will be rising soon, I am sure.

[Cocopuffz17]

5 hours ago, Alanmane said:

Thank you very much for the list and your words! It is a great help to receive feedback from people who know about this topic.

 

I try to limit the caffeine, and it should also reduce the nicotine I get from my vaporizer because I use higher levels of nicotine at work since I can't vape as much. I think nicotine doesn't help me as much, but I'm addicted and now I don't have great willpower. It is strange how the WD evolves month by month, I have gone through many different stages and states lately, for example in 50mg I felt one way, in 37 another, now in another ... you never know how you will feel in the next reduction.

 

Now I am clear that I will wait to feel better before continuing to go low, I did not think it would be so difficult at such low doses but it is. The energy and vitality will be rising soon, I am sure.

 

Yea, I've never been a smoker but I have seen how hard it is with nicotine. I know it is possible with a great mindset! You can do it Yes, the wd beast is an ever changing situation. Exactly how you described. 

 

Yes, stabilize and then continue your journey. You will get through it! 

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed

[Alanmane]

On 28/3/2020 at 18:48, Cocopuffz17 said:

 

Sí, nunca he fumado, pero he visto lo difícil que es con la nicotina. ¡Sé que es posible con una gran mentalidad! Puedes hacerlo Sí, la bestia wd es una situación siempre cambiante. Exactamente como lo describiste. 

 

Sí, estabilízate y luego continúa tu viaje. ¡Lo superarás! 

 

Cada día que pasa está un día más cerca de ser curado

sorry for taking the time to answer you, I have been working for seven days and couldn't wait to answer.

 

I appreciate your support, it is very valuable to encourage someone you do not know, going through these situations unites people a lot :).

 

I hope to be able to gather strength during these days to improve my state, I feel exhausted and I am not sure if it is all because of WD or that what effexor was hiding is coming to light, I am afraid of feeling bad, literally my mood is low and My mind runs slow from exhaustion, I have no choice but to fight to make my life better without the stimulating effects of these drugs (and for years I have not), I find it hard to believe that this can be fixed.

 

I hope you are well, a hug.