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Sassenach

Updosed from 2.5mgs to 5 mgs of escitalopram 7 days ago as 2.5 was having no effect.

I realise that the dose increase is larger than advised on this site but age and circumstances dictate that I need to improve and stabilise my current condition for the present 

and hope the opportunity to taper of in due case will come.

For the moment the last 3/4 days have been much better but I still have Tinnitus, head fog, sore throat and poor appetite.

As I quit cold turkey 14 weeks ago I am not sure whether  reinstatement has worked or if I am just getting better as time goes by.

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Gridley
1 minute ago, Sassenach said:

 

For the moment the last 3/4 days have been much better but I still have Tinnitus, head fog, sore throat and poor appetite.

 

The fact that your symptoms are much better is an encouraging sign that the updose is working.  Remember, the purpose of an updose or reinstatement isn't to eliminate totally symptoms from a CT/too fast taper but rather to lessen them to make them tolerable.

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Sassenach
3 minutes ago, Gridley said:

 

The fact that your symptoms are much better is an encouraging sign that the updose is working.  Remember, the purpose of an updose or reinstatement isn't to eliminate totally symptoms from a CT/too fast taper but rather to lessen them to make them tolerable.

Thanks Gridley

 

Hope I can do as well as you.

All the best

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Sassenach

Got up this morning and head was terrible. 

Could not think straight, poor balance.

Worst of all my spatial awareness in non existant, certainly cannot drive which will be an issue here if it continues.

Hope tomorrow is better.

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Sassenach

Two windows in one week plus some other short but good periods.

I dare to hope, but tomorrow is another day ( fingers crossed )

16 weeks since C/T, 2 weeks since reinstating on half dose.

A way to go yet but feels a little better most days.

Got to see GP shortly which should be interesting as he told me to reinstate full dose.

I hope in a couple of weeks I will be confident enough to be sure.

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Gridley
30 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Two windows in one week plus some other short but good periods.

 

Very good sign, Sassenach.

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Sassenach

Thanks Gridley.

As I said fingers crossed.

How are you doing?

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Gridley
4 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

How are you doing?

 

Just fair at the moment but I will bounce back.  On the good side, I am getting some sleep and the anxiety is less.  A few physical symptoms are annoying: paresthesia, stiff neck, aches and pains out of the blue.  Thanks for asking.

 

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Altostrata

Welcome, Sassenach.

 

Sounds like your reinstatement is working.

 

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This will appear under each of your posts. You may need to use a computer to enter your signature. Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

 

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Sassenach

Why do I open my big mouth.

Said feeling good yesterday.

Today woke feeling cold and achey, could not get warm, went to dentist still cold, walked 400 metres in sun, still cold, ate lunch went to bed and finally warmed up but felt lousy.

Still feel terrible.

However thanks to this site I now know that these setbacks are an essential part of healing.

So something to look forward to, because tomorrow will be better.

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Sassenach

Hi Altostrata

Thought I had but head not working today.

Can I edit my profile, and is that what you mean by signature?.

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Gridley
25 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Hi Altostrata

Thought I had but head not working today.

Can I edit my profile, and is that what you mean by signature?.

 

Signature is your drug history (drugs, doses, tapers, etc.) which will appear at the bottom of each of your posts so the moderators can see it as a glance.  An example is at the bottom of my post.  You can write your signature by going to the link Alto provided in her previous post.

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Sassenach

Hi Gridley

 

Thanks for the info, was feeling really thick other day, head fog.

Good to hear you are sleeping better. A good nights sleep is always a good start to the day.

Just need to get rid of the cortisol thing now.

I don't know much about South America apart from what I see on TV but believe Ecuador is a beautiful country.

Your written english is very good.

 

All the best

 

Sassenach

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Gridley
2 hours ago, Sassenach said:

 

Just need to get rid of the cortisol thing now.

 

Mine got better after a while.  Like everything else, it just takes time.

 

Ecuador is beautiful and tranquil and (important) inexpensive.  We retired down here from the U.S. about ten years ago.

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Sassenach

Is it a normal withdrawal symptom to suddenly feel very cold?

Happened for the third time today.

Woke up feeling OK if not great, went into town and on the way back started to feel cold even though car temp was 20Celsius.

Within minutes I felt as if I was being slowly deep frozen.

Went to bed in a dressing gown with a hot water bottle and as soon as I warmed up fell asleep for 2 hours.

Now feel awful after a pretty good week (relatively speaking )

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Gridley
14 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Is it a normal withdrawal symptom to suddenly feel very cold?

Happened for the third time today.

Woke up feeling OK if not great, went into town and on the way back started to feel cold even though car temp was 20Celsius.

Within minutes I felt as if I was being slowly deep frozen.

Went to bed in a dressing gown with a hot water bottle and as soon as I warmed up fell asleep for 2 hours.

Now feel awful after a pretty good week (relatively speaking )

 

Body temperature dysregulation is a common withdrawal symptom.  I have it myself.

 

Body temperature dysregulation - Surviving Antidepressants

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thecowisback

i have this also - i've gone from someone who was always hot to wearing loads of layers and woolly cardigans. i never really thought about it being down to withdrawals and just blamed it on getting old! 😆

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Sassenach
1 hour ago, thecowisback said:

i have this also - i've gone from someone who was always hot to wearing loads of layers and woolly cardigans. i never really thought about it being down to withdrawals and just blamed it on getting old! 😆

I am getting/got old too, could be a coincidence 🙄, but more likely WD.

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Sassenach
1 hour ago, Gridley said:

 

Body temperature dysregulation is a common withdrawal symptom.  I have it myself.

 

Body temperature dysregulation - Surviving Antidepressants

Thanks

 

Good to know I'm normal, sort of.

 

4deg C outside today, hope it is  warmer for you.

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Sassenach

Surfing the wave.

 

Today is a reminder of how bad it can get and how far I have to go.

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Sassenach

Lost my canine companion of 15 years at 7AM.

I am very upset but cannot cry for him.

I feel detached and unconnected.

Not fair as he gave me and others so much pleasure.

I envied him the peace as he fell asleep one last time.

I know I have to bounce back but it looks a steep hill from here.

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thecowisback

so sad to hear this - they leave such a huge hole in our lives when they go 😥😥😥

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Sassenach

Thank you

 

Are you feeling any better on 3.5 mgs?

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thecowisback

i haven't seen any difference yet, apart from the fact that i'm a bit restless today ☺

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Sassenach

Saw the GP yesterday and gave him a list of symptoms experienced during the last week, was at pains to stress not all at the same time.

Used Dr Glenmullen's  list which clearly says symptoms " mimic".

Surprise surprise, I am depressed.

I gave him copies of newspaper reports, told him radio and television programmes, the Lancet article , information from this site.

A quick glance and no comment.

He did agree to help when the time comes to taper although there is very little he can do because minimum dose here is 5mgs with no liquid alternative.

I will worry about that when I get there as I realise there is a lot of info on here.

I do not like conspiracy theories but is beginning to feel as though the GPs have been to told to keep silent while the NHS sorts out the potential implications.

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thecowisback

i had a gp laugh at me when i showed her similar articles, then act horrified when i said i would make liquid from capsules. i've also had a gp roll his eyes at me when i said i was still having withdrawals months after stopping. i don't think they have a bloody clue. 

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Gridley
2 hours ago, Sassenach said:

although there is very little he can do because minimum dose here is 5mgs with no liquid alternative.

 

When the time comes you can make your own liquid or cut the pills and weigh them.  The AWS Gemini 20 scale is available (not expensive) on Amazon in the UK.  We can provide you with instructions when you're ready.

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Sassenach

Hi Gridley

 

Thanks.

 

Will let you know when I get there.

 

I hope that you feeling better and back on your taper.

 

Also hope all was well at the vets and the journey was not too hard on you.

 

Sassenach

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Sassenach
21 hours ago, thecowisback said:

i had a gp laugh at me when i showed her similar articles, then act horrified when i said i would make liquid from capsules. i've also had a gp roll his eyes at me when i said i was still having withdrawals months after stopping. i don't think they have a bloody clue. 

I do not believe that they would attend university for 4 years and leave with student debt in order to harm patients, makes no sense.

There are easier well paid jobs for folk with their intelligence, which do not carry the risk of law suits.

They could also change jobs and employers easily, only one NHS.

It does not make sense unless the old joke is true: What is the difference between Doctors and God, God does not think he is a doctor !

I know it has dented my faith in GPs.

Thank God , or a Doctor ( take your pick ) for this site.

 

Sassenach

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ChessieCat
14 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Change.org has a petition to the UK government to make Dutch- style tapering strips available on the NHS.

 

The petition needs 10,000 signatures to be put before parliament and currently has almost 9000.

 

Tis is a link to the site if you would like to sign.

 

 

https://www.change.org/p/provide-tapering-strips-to-help-users-who-want-to-stop-taking-anxiety-depression-drugs

 

 

I'm moved your post to an existing topic:  petition-calling-for-tapering-kits-in-the-uk

 

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Sassenach

Thank you

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Sassenach

It is a week ago today and finally caught up so feeling really down.

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thecowisback

when we lost our last dog i was bereft. 

i keep saying i'll never have another one as i can't bear the pain when they go but i often wonder if having a little furry being to take care of would help me through withdrawals. 

i don't think non-pet owners understand just how much they fill up our lives.

i hope you can focus on all the good times you had with yours and take comfort from the fact that he is now at peace. xxxxxxx

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Sassenach

Thanks

 

I can focus on the good times as he was always happy and loved everyone and other dogs.

We still have my wife's ten year old collie so I walk him for exercise, but he is not Mac.

I do think a pet is good during withdrawal as they make us stay active and will cuddle up when we feel down.

I understand what you mean and just now I cannot imagine having another dog, but whether I can live without a canine companion I doubt.

I see you are still at 3.5mgs so hope you are getting better.

Take care

 

Sassenach

 

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thecowisback

thanks x i updosed to 4 mg yesterday so just hoping the effects are positive.☺

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