HardWork Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 Its possible my healing is more difficult because meds were forced. I never believed in meds & never felt I have any issues. There's trauma, frustration and fear in regards to meds that adds to the burden. My guess is that it has a paralyzing effect in the healing process. I wonder if there's truth to what I'm thinking 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 My guide/checklist to wellness: Food Elimination Exercise Love Water Engage (socialize, don't isolate) Learn (educate yourself- What SA's about) Laugh it off (Dont stress over things. Easy easy🙂) And SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP!!!!!! This acronym helps me to remember my life-list during awry times 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 @Altostrata@ChessieCat and whoevers willing to help... I'm only tapering lithium, on 675mg, holding for 6 months now. What could be the reason for such difficulty to stabilize? Maybe cuz I never quite stabilized bet drops (but held 4 months 10% each time) Future will do 2.5% drops. Or maybe cuz I was CT (I think 6-8 weeks) zoloft. That was a horror of a withdrawal, but twas 3 years ago. I want to get this taper going..... Also, hoping to have more kids, I'm not getting younger.... The ironic part is that I was fast/dr-tapered the following- Depakote, wellbutrin, Zyprexa, risperdal.... years ago with no issues at all (in hindsight I see I did hv issues. Was ignorant to side effects. But they weren't life-stopping) Maybe thats also a reason- maybe those quick tapers impacted my brain &therefore difficult now... Tis confusing.... 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted February 19, 2022 Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2022 @HardWork On 2/15/2022 at 4:57 PM, HardWork said: There's trauma, frustration and fear in regards to meds that adds to the burden. You bet there is trauma from these drugs.....Fear of tapering, fear of being stuck like this, fear of everything lol🙊 then you get the added WD fear, anxiety, panic, depression, paranioa, fear, fear, fear, . I see you are on Magnesium also...What kind do you take? I use Glycinate and recently went up to 300mg. I take it 100mg 3 times a day. I was thinking of upping in to 400mg. Do you know the upper limit? What are you WD symptoms right now? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 19, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Greatful said: I see you are on Magnesium also...What kind do you take? I use Glycinate and recently went up to 300mg. I take it 100mg 3 times a day. I was thinking of upping in to 400mg. Do you know the upper limit? There is a topic on Magnesium. I don't know if there is a RDI of magnesium but if you get diarrhea then you are definitely taking too much. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
HardWork Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Right now I'm good! 🙂😀😃 Congratulations!- Today is day 11 of feeling good/human. Hope it lasssttttsssss! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 10:31 AM, Greatful said: @HardWork You bet there is trauma from these drugs.....Fear of tapering, fear of being stuck like this, fear of everything lol🙊 then you get the added WD fear, anxiety, panic, depression, paranioa, fear, fear, fear, . I see you are on Magnesium also...What kind do you take? I use Glycinate and recently went up to 300mg. I take it 100mg 3 times a day. I was thinking of upping in to 400mg. Do you know the upper limit? What are you WD symptoms right now? @Greatful Absolutely trauma! Agree! Were still in it... Magnesium- I'm not sure. I take according to elimination. Diarrhea tells me when its too much. Mine is CALM is the name. Peter gilham brand. Its powder- recently I went down, I felt my teeth hurting at night, felt its from that... not sure how much I take, goes by spoons... Regarding trauma- the force is PTSD for me, and force into such a trauma is double the trauma. Imagine this- was on psych meds years earlier, knew exactly what its about. Then comes a big man into my house and forces meds down my throat- when I knew exactly the pain of it from years before. And back then I knew nothing how to taper so continued taking it for many many years. That pain of force is worse than a gun, I never knew I could cry so loud- the way it did when it happened. I called police who came and said- if you call one more time well take you to a psychiatric hospital. The next day same occurrence, called police, they came up with a board to tie me and take me to a psych unit..... The trauma of 'this could still happen again'.... I still hv nightmares of that happening The person is illegal, even the law doesn't allow that- I wasn't harm to self or others 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted February 25, 2022 Mentor Share Posted February 25, 2022 @HardWork I'm a little confused.....I know you talked about this earlier in your post but I still don't quite understand it. 1- why did someone come to your house and force you to take drugs? 2- why did they keep coming back? 3-How can they get away with doing that? Was there a court order for you to take drugs? It does sound awful and scary..........Are you safe from that happening again? Hopefully you will be left alone and can slowly get off the drug😊 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
HardWork Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 9:50 AM, Greatful said: @HardWork I'm a little confused.....I know you talked about this earlier in your post but I still don't quite understand it. 1- why did someone come to your house and force you to take drugs? 2- why did they keep coming back? 3-How can they get away with doing that? Was there a court order for you to take drugs? It does sound awful and scary..........Are you safe from that happening again? Hopefully you will be left alone and can slowly get off the drug😊 Thanks for your concern @greatful. Its a longer answer. A painful topic. I hate going there. Will answer your questions another time. Yes its an illegal nonsense novel kind of situation... 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 ASAP!- URGENT QUESTION! Just noticed missed my morning dose, now when its time for eve dose. So I quickly took regular evening dose. Do I try to push missed dose in somewhere, or just ignore the mishap? I can't believe I missed a dose and can't believe I felt regular today, probably better if anything. Hope it doesn't catch up on me PS Week 3 of feeling regular solid normal human 🙌 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 16, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Don't do anything different. You might have some increase in withdrawal symptoms over the next week or longer but you will know why and it is better to just try to ride out the discomfort with non drug techniques. Non-drug techniques Also, it is generally better to not make another reduction until you are stable. Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist Stability WDnormal And Brassmonkey talks more about it here: tao-of-the-brassmonkey Edited March 16, 2022 by ChessieCat * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
HardWork Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 Hi! I'm doing very well for quite some time now 👏...... FINALLY! After so much struggling.... Thanks to those who suggested 1. To stop all supplements 2. To divide dose into AM PM. Forever grateful to SA and all of you who are so special!! So congratulations ~ today June 23rd, after 10 month hold(!) I finally started tapering again with BRASSMONKEY SLIDE METHOD! Hope it'll be smooth sailing!!! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Ariel Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @HardWork Well done on your successful long hold. Congratulations on resuming your taper. Best of luck to you on your continuous healing journey, A. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted June 23, 2022 Mentor Share Posted June 23, 2022 @HardWork Congrats, onward you go. ❤️ https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 Emergency question! Not sure where to post so should be seen fast.... (maybe we should have Emergency section perhaps. Just for any mods or members to look at first) Im from America, currently in Switzerland. Lost my dear compounding meds. Had one piece saved separately. I took last dose Friday morning, then saved one Saturday evening when felt really bad. Now its Saturday night. Feeling terrible (no worries. Hv felt worse in past) QUESTION- how do I go about getting compounding meds in Switzerland (or at least non compound. I'm on 610. Could do 600) but rather compound- I'm sensitive) My dr cannot send prescription out of US.. Thanks @Grateful and @Ariel! Appreciate it!!! Keeps me going! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Ariel Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Hi @HardWork Do you have travel insurance, or any other kind of health insurance that covers you while you're abroad? If so, they should have an emergency number that you could contact to ask for assistance. They should be able to advise you from there. Some credit cards may offer a similar service. If you are staying at a hotel, ask the concierge for help. If you're affiliated with a university, ask their administrative staff or health services for help. Other options might be going to the nearest ER (presumably open 24/7). You might do an online search to see if any pharmacies are open on a Sunday. You could try dialing the emergency services hotline (local equivalent of 911) and asking them to advise you further. That's what I can come up with off the top of my head at 2am. Good luck! 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Oh wow! Thank you so much @Ariel! Fortunately I found a pharmacy online that will give me meds just by showing my medication bottle.. But they have only 660 mg. Will need to learn dry cutting and weighing.... 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 I'm getting nervous about this. I was on lithium 305 mg (twice daily) slow-release compounded capsules. Here in Switzerland they have just 660 mg tablets today (tom they can order 400) Whats the best way to proceed to get 305? Maybe I could ask for liquid or non ER. Any advice is greatly appreciated! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Hi @JanCarol, I see you had success with tapering off lithium.... good for you! Can you please read my last 3 messages and advise? @ChessieCat @brassmonkey and whoever could help,.. You've been so helpful in the past... I'm desperate as I've skipped 2 doses already (and already took one I had left, after those 2 skipped spaces) Can you please help me figure this out? Its about getting meds in another country. What kind do I go for and how do I customize dosage? No experience as I compounded back at home. Thanks in advance!!! Your kindness goes faaarrrrr!!!!!! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Emergency please help! @Altostrata @brassmonkey @ChessieCat @Greatful @manymoretodays @Ariel @JanCarol @Frogie These names came to mind, whoever could help...please!!! I'm in Switzerland- cleaning ladies of hotel threw out my meds!!!! Took lithium 305 mg slow release capsules TWICE DAILY till this happened. Here's what I last took. Regular dosing till Friday 1 pm- 305 mg lithium (slow release) Saturday 7:30 pm- 305 mg lithium (sr) Now its Sunday 2:45 pm didn't take anything yet. I feel like I'm passing out! Fortunately was able to get medication but only 660 mg tablets- lithium ER. I hv just a pill cutter and a razor. Maybe I can get regular food scale from kitchen (embarrassed). A shame that I have meds in front of me but not taking since I don't know what to do with it ! I know this is not an emergency hotline, I'm so desperate! And there's no emergency lines avail for us. Any advice greatly appreciated! Please please save me Just missing the info, Helpless 😢 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Bp1961 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 @HardWork can you go down to the reception and ask them where can you buy/get a small jewelry scale asap? Or worst case go to the closest ER. That's what I would do. Or tell the manager that the cleaning ladies threw your meds and if there is a way to find them or if they have any suggestions. 2000 -2013: various antidepressants. 2013 - 2019: Lexapro 20 mg 2019 - April 2021: Lexapro 10 mg (No withdrawal) April 2021 - March 2022: Lexapro 5 mg (No withdrawal) 2013 - April 2022: Vyvanse 50 mg Feb. 23 - April 3, 2022: Finasteride 1mg. March/April 2022 - Stopped Cold Turkey March 5, 2022 - Quit smoking CT after 30+ years July 20, 2022 - Quit coffee. Reinstatement: Escitalopram - July 5-10, 2022: 5mg; July 11-15: 10mg; July 16-31: 20mg; Aug 1-14: 15mg; Aug 15-22: 12.5mg; Aug 23-Sept 2: 12mg; Sept 3-8: 11.5mg; Sept 9-10: 11.4mg; Sept 11-18: 11mg; Sept 19-24: 10.5mg; Sept. 25-January 2024: 10mg; February - March 2024 - : 9mg; April 2024 - 8mg. Vyvanse - July 5-10, 2022: 40mg; July 11, 2022- June 12, 2023: 50mg; June 13, 2023 - December 2023: 40mg; January 2024 - Present: 30mg. Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Thanks! You're making me feel I have someone 🌞. Was in middle of self-pitying my aloneness... Its in the garbage my meds. The reception here knows nothing. The ER? All they'll do is poison me up on higher dose because they only hv high doses here...no? 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted August 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2022 @HardWork You could try taking a little less than 1/2 and see how you do. It is better than nothing, but you may have some bumps going forward for a few days. Is there anyway you could call your dr and explain the situation and see if they could get you your correct medication? If not, just do the best you can and when you get home start taking yours again and hold until stable. PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 21, 2022 Administrator Share Posted August 21, 2022 Ask the hotel to send you to a local doctor, losing your prescription drugs was their fault. The doctor should be able to give you another prescription. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Bp1961 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 That's just crazy that they threw away a customer's medication. Or maybe the maid thought she could sell the Lithium for good money. 2000 -2013: various antidepressants. 2013 - 2019: Lexapro 20 mg 2019 - April 2021: Lexapro 10 mg (No withdrawal) April 2021 - March 2022: Lexapro 5 mg (No withdrawal) 2013 - April 2022: Vyvanse 50 mg Feb. 23 - April 3, 2022: Finasteride 1mg. March/April 2022 - Stopped Cold Turkey March 5, 2022 - Quit smoking CT after 30+ years July 20, 2022 - Quit coffee. Reinstatement: Escitalopram - July 5-10, 2022: 5mg; July 11-15: 10mg; July 16-31: 20mg; Aug 1-14: 15mg; Aug 15-22: 12.5mg; Aug 23-Sept 2: 12mg; Sept 3-8: 11.5mg; Sept 9-10: 11.4mg; Sept 11-18: 11mg; Sept 19-24: 10.5mg; Sept. 25-January 2024: 10mg; February - March 2024 - : 9mg; April 2024 - 8mg. Vyvanse - July 5-10, 2022: 40mg; July 11, 2022- June 12, 2023: 50mg; June 13, 2023 - December 2023: 40mg; January 2024 - Present: 30mg. Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted August 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2022 Call your insurance provider helpline. The number should be on the back of your membership card. They will be the best source of information on what to do. With all the people traveling this is not an uncommon occurrence for them. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Thanks everyone for your warm responses! I was too weak back then to look at them... But a friend advised the same as @Frogie and it worked! Good thinking, Frogie! On target answer👍!.. Thank you!! I really felt like I'm passing out.... I took a little less than half and I literally got my life back quite fast! That was 6 hrs ago. I divided the pill in 4 and took 1/4 every half hour.... felt too sick and scared to take it all at once. Especially this is lithium sulfur and not the lithium carbonate I took. Little by little gave me confidence and wasn't a shock on my body. @Altostrata Thanks, youre 100% right ! But i could've gone to an urgent care as well.... I already had the meds in my hand, just didn't know how to measure. Switzerland only has 660 mg on the shelf.. 400 is already custom overnight order @Bp1961 Lol... i got 250 pills here for $70. I can do same. The cleaning lady thought its garbage. It was in a black bag and lightweight. But yes, you don't throw around ppls stuff like that.. agree.. who knows what else they dumped. I will not let them in again, my horrible meds are too precious @brassmonkey Thanks, Again, that wasn't the issue. Meds in hand needed advice how to swallow them correctly. The best part of all- All I needed to do was show pharmacy an empty med bottle and they sold a box of meds. Luckily I had just an empty bottle on hand! Didnt even show up, sent a messenger, was too weak.. Didn't need any dr or ER. They're called TopPharm pharmacy, if anyone ever in similar situation. I think they have many locations all over switzerland It felt like a near death experience. Was all too familiar to me. Had felt worse in the past. Thanks to all of you on SR today I'm a lot lot stronger to handle acute experiences, as well as feeling relatively well most of the time...(who feels perfectly well in withdrawal) Again, thanks to this wonderful community and to everyone who responded with so much heart! HardWork- big time! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Bp1961 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 @HardWork Yes I sensed that you were in panic mode so I had to reply. I'm glad you were able to figure it out! GL! Switzerland is a beautiful place...enjoy! 2000 -2013: various antidepressants. 2013 - 2019: Lexapro 20 mg 2019 - April 2021: Lexapro 10 mg (No withdrawal) April 2021 - March 2022: Lexapro 5 mg (No withdrawal) 2013 - April 2022: Vyvanse 50 mg Feb. 23 - April 3, 2022: Finasteride 1mg. March/April 2022 - Stopped Cold Turkey March 5, 2022 - Quit smoking CT after 30+ years July 20, 2022 - Quit coffee. Reinstatement: Escitalopram - July 5-10, 2022: 5mg; July 11-15: 10mg; July 16-31: 20mg; Aug 1-14: 15mg; Aug 15-22: 12.5mg; Aug 23-Sept 2: 12mg; Sept 3-8: 11.5mg; Sept 9-10: 11.4mg; Sept 11-18: 11mg; Sept 19-24: 10.5mg; Sept. 25-January 2024: 10mg; February - March 2024 - : 9mg; April 2024 - 8mg. Vyvanse - July 5-10, 2022: 40mg; July 11, 2022- June 12, 2023: 50mg; June 13, 2023 - December 2023: 40mg; January 2024 - Present: 30mg. Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Your reply made a difference indeed!! Thanks! 1 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 All's well that ends well.. The punchline--- I did a lot better on Switzerland meds! Wonder if: 1- its because theirs is more pure (just like their food water etc) 2- They sell lithium SULFATE, mine is carbonate (pharmacy here told me there's is also carbonate w sulfate as added ingredient) 3- maybe because twas just few days, the beginning 4- add your own here Ps Swiss meds tasted like regular salt. Original meds tastes like bitter chemical Any insight is appreciated! Thinking if I should continue with theirs or whether risks are involved. Looking forward to hearing from you! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted August 29, 2022 Author Share Posted August 29, 2022 Hi, I switched back to original meds, because figured can always go back to Swiss medication later after doing research.... It brought on a wave.... I'm so pulled down and a bit depressed. Every task is a huge deal... Feeling inept that I can't get normal things done like normal ppl. Travel, jet lag and weather change may be the case too... All this after finally settling down and starting brassmonkey taper successfully Im feeling alone in this. Any support would be greatly appreciated! Ps @Bp1961 You weren't off. My necklace also went missing (just $10 but missing it.) They weren't totally innocent. 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 Hi @Altostrata @brassmonkey @JanCarol @ChessieCat @Frogie and whoever coming across my message, your help would be greatly appreciated!! I am currently on Lithium ER 610 mg capsules(divided in am pm) finally stabilized from August situation!....still holding since. So ready to start tapering again. I reached a road block as I'm not sure what route to take. Brassmonkey slide- takes 7 years, too long. Thought of doing micro liquid titration but: 1- fear of switching from SR to IR 2- My pharmacy warned me that its dangerous to dissolve ER in water (besides that itll turn IR) 3- Switching to liquid lithium or IR is a risk of rocking the boat. But maybe a good choice Can I please get guidance on this? Or anyone's experience similar? What would be my best option- open to other taper styles too. Please keep in mind that I am HIGHLY SENSITIVE to changes!!! Thanks in advance! Looking forward to hearing from you! <Desperate> 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 20, 2023 Administrator Share Posted January 20, 2023 Read Tips for tapering off lithium This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
HardWork Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 Thank you! I came up with a plan. To do just partial dosage in IR. 610 mg now. Is 150mg in IR a good amount to start with? Divided in 2= 75 am and pm. Thinking of dissolving in 75 ml water twice daily and pulling off 1 ml twice a day for 75 days Hows that? Too much or fine? Thanks in advance! 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
HardWork Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 This is the tapering method that i would like to start. It didnt come up on my site search https://vimeo.com/501889209 1- October 2011- Wellbutrin. Few months later-Zyprexa. Quite some months later-Depakote. Clonapen throughout. November 2014- med free successfully! (Quick doc taper) 2- November 2015- zyprexa (almost sure) May 2015- Lithium 900 mg throughout, carried over to pregnancy and next baby. Currently still on same lithium. 3- June 20, 2017- zyprexa refused. June 21, 2017- forced hospitalization. June 2017- risperdal, lithium raised to 1200. no memory when-zoloft. Got off risperdal with dr- no clue how fast or when. June 2018- got off zoloft extremely fast resulting in complete dissociation (total disconnect of body), depression & severe fatigue Around august 2019- lithium 1050. Lithium 975. Lithium 900. January 11, 2021- Lithium 825. February 5, 2021- Found SA 🌞! February 23, 2021- Compounding natural pharmacy 🙂. May 9, 2021- Lithium 750. August 30, 2021- Lithium 675 (will add in more dates when I figure them out) June 23, 2022- Started brassmonkey slide 💟 June 23, 2022- Lithium 658 >ALL meds were coerced ILLEGALLY< CURRENT MEDS- 610 LITHIUM MG (after 4 week hold. Brass monkey succesful) CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS- magnesium 350 MG Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 22, 2023 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2023 @hayduke @DataGuy @JanCarol any lithium tapering tips? 1 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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