HelpNardilWD: Nardil Withdrawals

[HelpNardilWD]

I was in Nardil for 3 years and it stopped being very effective. I recently tapered down over the course of 4 months. The withdrawals are hell on earth. Is there anyone out there with any advice and/or has gotten through the withdrawals. Just about all the posts I’ve seen about this topic makes me think I'm going to be suffering from this for a while to say the least.

[Frogie]

@HelpNardilWD

 

I'm very sorry to hear you are going through this, but glad you found us. We are all volunteers that have been through the same symptoms as you or are going through it right along with you.

 

This is your page where you will receive information, you can ask questions, comment on things, and meet other members going through this. We ask that each member only have one page so we can keep all your information in one place so it is easy to access.

 

First, can I ask you to please create a signature page.

 

Instructions:  Withdrawal History Signature

 

You have gone through a very fast taper and that is why you are experiencing so many withdrawal symptoms. SA suggests only tapering 10% a month and you did it in 4 months.

 

I'm going to post some links for you to read at your leisure. 

 

Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist

 

One Theory of Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome

 

Brain Remodelling

 

Here is a link directly relating to Nardil:

 

damnnardil: Anyone on MAO's? Nardil? - Introductions and ...

 3 KIS's Keep It Simple, Slow, Stable

 

We don'd suggest supplements here except 2. You could try one in a small amount and see it it helps. If you don't have a reaction, you could try the other in a small amount after a few days.

 

Magnesium

 

Omega-3 Fish Oil

 

Please read this like I said at your leisure. I'm sure you will have questions. Please reach out to us and we will be happy to help.

[HelpNardilWD]

Thank you for the quick reply and best advice I’ve had so far. How would I go about restarting the taper process?

[manymoretodays]

Hi HelpNardilWD, and welcome from me too,

On 1/5/2022 at 3:18 PM, HelpNardilWD said:

Thank you for the quick reply and best advice I’ve had so far. How would I go about restarting the taper process?

I just copied your signature here to look at.

I’m 28

Been on all SSRIs over the past 10 years.

Been on klonopin infrequently over the years.

SRNI - Effexor (about 8 years ago).

Had shingles when I was 15.

Had nerve pain as a result.

Have been on lamictal for about 5 years.

Has helped significantly with nerve pain.

Nardil for last 4 years? 60mg

 

Are you on the Nardil now?

And Lamictal?

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24613-how-to-summarize-your-drug-history-in-your-signature/

As the signature is limited to 12 lines, we expect you will condense your drug history. The last few years usually will do.

 

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2003  citalopram 
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2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg

 

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If you would go in and edit yours, and then just make sure to get dates, drugs, and dosages of any current drugs in there. 

That will help.  Don't forget to hit the SAVE button when you are done editing.

 

I'm not sure right now what you are on, or thinking about tapering.

 

Many thanks, and best,

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Edited January 7, 2022 by manymoretodays

[manymoretodays]

Are you wondering about re-instating, rather than tapering??

I'm unclear about that at the moment.

So do edit your signature and clarify for me.  Thank you.

 

We don't have a Nardil tapering topic as yet.  Generally, the same principles would apply though.  And we can find more information too.

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

^ explains more about our harm reduction model

 

And if you are considering a reinstatement, this topic is helpful too:

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

just have a read through for now, and do let us know what symptoms of WD you might be experiencing, and also when you came off the Nardil too, if that is the case.  I see now, in your first post that you did come off the Nardil.  When was that?  And then how did you do your last fast taper off of it?

 

I did have a horrible WD(withdrawal) from that, Nardil,  way back in time, and didn't know it was WD, nor did my doctors unfortunately.

So.....happy to help.

 

Good to see you getting around the site a little already too.

Excellent.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Edited January 7, 2022 by manymoretodays
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[HelpNardilWD]

Tapered over a period of 4 months and I just finished. My psychiatrist told me I only need to go down 15mg a week. I told him that didn’t sound right so I came down 15 mg every two weeks. 60mg was my original dose. What a nightmare this has been. It’s not the first time I’ve had an incompetent psychiatrist before 

[gollyned]

Hi @HelpNardilWD,

 

I'm going through Nardil withdrawal as well. Could you clarify what your taper was like? It took four months -- did you make smaller decreases as time went on?

 

I'm having a lot of trouble making even the smallest changes. I've hit a wall at 1.75 tablets. I cannot decrease at all, even by an eighth of a tablet, without having severe withdrawal symptoms. I'm wondering how it was decreasing Nardil 15mg at a time after taking it for four years. I've taken it for just over three years.

 

Thank you.

 

 

[HelpNardilWD]

Hi gollyned, 

 

I didn’t make smaller decreases as time went on but if I could go back I would taper much slower than I did. Instead of four months I would try to do it over the course of at least a year. For me the withdrawals were rough and lasted months but I eventually got through them. Hang in there my friend.