Tranqdart Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Seems so weird to be asking, but I'm really unsure. Is it better to give in to weeping whenever it comes on; maybe it brings on calmness? Or better to distract myself, fight it off? I've had tears like, five times today and it's only 3pm. Tranq Dart Mary 1998: 20 mg fluoxetine for a few months; quit cold turkey 2002-2015: 10 mg escitalopram for 13 years; quit cold turkey (disastrously) 2016-2021: 10 mg escitalopram for 6 years after a break of several months; tapered 254 days starting Nov 30 2021, last dose Aug 9 2022; withdrawal symptoms started in Sept 2022. suppl: Morning: Fish oil, magnesium, b6, b12, calcium citrate, C, D3, valerian Evening: magnesium and topical melatonin for sleep Mostly whole food 2/5/23: quit alcohol 3/13/23: quit coffee and tea but not chocolate or sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebird Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 35 minutes ago, Tranqdart said: Seems so weird to be asking, but I'm really unsure. Is it better to give in to weeping whenever it comes on; maybe it brings on calmness? Or better to distract myself, fight it off? I've had tears like, five times today and it's only 3pm. When the water comes, let it wash over you. Damming it up only saves more for later! There are benefits to crying too. Crying a lot can be overwhelming, but I find that's worse when I spend too much time distracting myself and fighting it off. Sometimes when I just let go and give in to it, there's a lot less than I thought there would be. Started on Prozac as a teen in 2000 to treat cPTSD, been on a cocktail ever since, have tried too many meds to list over the years but I’ll try: Prozac, Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, Trazedone (reaction), Effexor, Olanzapine, Remeron, Valium, Xanax, Adderall, Vyvanse, Klonopin, Prazosin. 2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0 2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> March 2023 95mg 2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> February 2023: 50mg IR (oops) -> 75mg IR (25mg 3x a day) 2018-present: 25mg Pristiq, tried to taper unsuccessfully 2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Hanna72 Posted March 8 Mentor Share Posted March 8 Hi @Tranqdart Crying.....I believe it's one of the best therapies for everything. It releases pent up tension and emotion. And yet, we feel badly about having to cry, as if there's something wrong with crying on top of everything else we may think is wrong with us. But our bodies know better than our minds do about what it needs. I shifted my thinking to see it as good therapy 2 Taking a break from SA. 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. Did a way to fast taper off of 20 mg fluoxetine. Crashed after being 8 months free of drug. Reinstated went up to 20 mg 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg holding… If you fail, never give up because F.A.I.L. means First Attempt In Learning' and End is not the end, in fact E.N.D. means Effort Never Dies' Abdul Kalam Supplements; Magnesium, fish oil, d vit I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Moonpie Posted March 9 Mentor Share Posted March 9 @Tranqdart I agree with @Hanna72. We were created to cry and it is a comfort and release. Scientists have found that emotional ears have a different chemical composition that other tears (dust in the eye, allergies, cutting onions). They have a higher concentration of protein based hormones, including prolactin as well as the neurotransmitter leucine enkephalin - a painkiller produced when we experience stress. That's why a good cry can help. I think some people are uncomfortable with crying because it makes them feel very vulnerable. You may feel physically and emotionally drained afterwards but rest a little. It is perfectly normal and okay. In withdraw you will have weeping times and sometimes often, but as with all symptoms it will go away. Try to remember all these challenging symptoms are simply are brains working hard to heal the way they were made too. Hang in there! HUGS 1 .025 Xanax 3 x daily Start date 10-13-2013 through 8-13-2014. Started tapering 6-2014 to 8-2014. Some small discomfort. 25 mg Zoloft - Start date 5-1-2014. 50mg. 6-2014. through 7-14-2014 . Started tapering 7-14-2014, stopped tapering 10-2014. I did 1/4 of the dose a month. small discomfort. These next 3 were prescribed when I made some seriously bad choices with my thyroid medication. Was in ER twice for possible heart attack. INTENSE anxiety, panic, fear. Lost 30 pounds in 2 weeks. Thyroid levels bounced to extremes for 8 months. Dr. prescribed Zoloft 50mg 9-2105. After 2 doses had a bad reaction passed out in my bedroom. Also prescribed Xanax .025 at the same time. 3 times daily, 4 if needed. Was only on it about 2 weeks. Was not working. Trip ER they gave me an Ativan IV and it worked and lasted. switched to Ativan. 9-24-2016. 1.5 mg Ativan - .5 mg three x daily -start date 9/24/16. Attempted taper start 12-16-2016. Was shaving Pills and alternating tapering AM, PM and midday dose weekly. Buspar .5mg -2.5mg. am and 2. 5mg. pm start date 9-26-2016 . Lexapro .10mg start date - 10-26-2016. Found SA and began 10/14/2017 tapering .001 by weight of pill every 4 days Held longer if there were was WD. Was very sensitive to Ativan. 3-15-2018 Off midday dose - 7-16-2018 Off PM dose - OFF ATIVAN! 11-17-2018 10 mg. Lexapro. PM - 5 mg start date 10/11/2016 increased to 10 mg 2/2/17. 1-1-2019 Began tapering Lexapro. .001 gm every 4 days. Held longer if there was WD. Last doses some I held a month. OFF LEXAPRO! 2-21 2021 5 mg. Buspar divided into two, 2.5 mg doses AM and PM- Start date 9/26/2016 Cold turkey on Dr. direction, AM and Pm doses. Reinstated 9-22-16. Began Buspar taper 1-29-23, .001 mg by weight of pills. N.P. Desiccated Thyroid. 1-2023 Labs okay but not where I feel best. 60 mg. daily now but adding 15 mg. more twice weekly for a few months then check. Bioidentical hormones. Bi-est/Prog cream, 1/4 tsp. 1 time daily My intro: Moonpie:. Need help and supporting tapering off of Ativan My benzo thread: Moonpie: Need help Ativan weight tapering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey805 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We've evolved to cry, it's beneficial for us to do so. Try not to look at it as something you "give in to," as that's like saying you're giving in to the urge to drink water. You're supposed to cry sometimes! Life is emotional, and our body has a built-in release valve for when we get overwhelmed. If you feel like you're about to cry, it's very likely because you need to. I can scarcely imagine an instance where holding it in would be the better course of action. 2014-2015 Clonazepam (Klonopin) 2mg BID, Sertraline (Zoloft) 150mg (Discontinued Clonazepam cold turkey) 2014-August 2021 Sertraline (Zoloft) 150mg (Discontinued cold turkey in hospital, replaced with new regimen) August 2021 Sodium Valproate 500mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 150mg (Seroquel) May 2022 Sodium Valproate 500mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 150mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN, Mirtazapine 15mg July 2022 Sodium Valproate (Depakote) 500mg, Quetiapine 200mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN, Venlafaxine 75mg (roughly 10 days) August 1 2022 Sodium Valproate 500mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 100mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN, Buspirone 10mg (5-7 days) August 14 2022 Sodium Valproate 250mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 100mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN September 7 2022 Sodium Valproate 250mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 50mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN September 22 2022 Sodium Valproate 250mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 25mg (Seroquel), Hydroxyzine 25mg PRN October 9 2022 Sodium Valproate 250mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 12.5mg (Seroquel) October 26 2022 Sodium Valproate 250mg (Depakote), Quetiapine 0.0mg (Seroquel) - #1 Goal Achieved November 18 2022 Sodium Valproate 0.0mg (Depakote) Drug Free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Onmyway Posted Thursday at 01:30 AM Moderator Share Posted Thursday at 01:30 AM I will chime in with a third option here. First off, it is absolutely OK to cry and it can be quite a release. But for some people and in some occasions crying can feed off on itself and set off an intense and long cycle of rumination and feeling sorry for yourself which can end up quite distressing and plunge you deeper. This is usually an exception but can happen. As others have said it can also be draining. What I find works better, the third option, is to use self-compassion towards yourself when you feel like crying - whether you actually cry or not. Kristin Neff talks about three steps to self compassion and here is a good summary. She may also have videos on YouTube if that is more your jam. https://self-compassion.org/the-three-elements-of-self-compassion-2/ Practicing these three steps can actually dissipate the 'mood' whether with or without tears much quicker. OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. If you would like to get a response from me directly please type @Onmyway some place in your message so I get notified of your post. I am not able to follow all of the threads all the time. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48 Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranqdart Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM 15 hours ago, Onmyway said:What I find works better, the third option, is to use self-compassion towards yourself when you feel like crying - whether you actually cry or not. Kristin Neff talks about three steps to self compassion and here is a good summary. She may also have videos on YouTube if that is more your jam. https://self-compassion.org/the-three-elements-of-self-compassion-2/ Practicing these three steps can actually dissipate the 'mood' whether with or without tears much quicker. OMW dear OMW, THANK YOU for pointing me in Kristen Neff’s direction. I wound up watching this ~40-min talk; very helpful!: Tranq Dart Mary 1998: 20 mg fluoxetine for a few months; quit cold turkey 2002-2015: 10 mg escitalopram for 13 years; quit cold turkey (disastrously) 2016-2021: 10 mg escitalopram for 6 years after a break of several months; tapered 254 days starting Nov 30 2021, last dose Aug 9 2022; withdrawal symptoms started in Sept 2022. suppl: Morning: Fish oil, magnesium, b6, b12, calcium citrate, C, D3, valerian Evening: magnesium and topical melatonin for sleep Mostly whole food 2/5/23: quit alcohol 3/13/23: quit coffee and tea but not chocolate or sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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