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Are any of you aficionados of essential oils and their blends for specific conditions? I've always been intrigued but am skeptical of most all vendors as I know nothing much beyond lavender is calming.

 

Everyone has their own "taste" in aromas but if there is a vendor/ company that has a good rack record, customer service and knows the true " therapy" behind their products I would be interested in a link.

 

Thanks!

 

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Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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I like to get the resins, and burn them on the little charcoal disks. It's more natural. Frankincense is effective for anxiety. Very calming. I get addicted to it as well as I love it and it's relaxing. Amber is a little more expensive but it is helpful for depression.

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I like to get the resins, and burn them on the little charcoal disks. It's more natural. Frankincense is effective for anxiety. Very calming. I get addicted to it as well as I love it and it's relaxing. Amber is a little more expensive but it is helpful for depression.

 

Shanti, does it matter where you get the resins? I would want to get the real thing.

Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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In my town there's a shop that is kind of New Age, cultural type stuff. That's where I go to get them. I'm sure you can find them online if you don't have a shop like that. I think that it's likely authentic if you're buying the resin. I haven't seen artificial resins before. Only the real thing. Aside from incense cones and sticks. So you'd know the difference.

 

This is what the Frankincense resin looks like. The Amber is more of a rusty color. Maybe that will help you find the real thing and not an imitation.

 

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Areyouthere,

 

I have seen the power of aromatherapy in animals (horses) and myself. I like using them with animals because there's less placebo effect.

 

I'm not familiar with what Shanti mentioned. I always get pure essential oils in the small bottles. Prices range from $5 to $40, depending on the oil. Chamomile is pricey, I believe.

 

Lavendar is most commonly known for calming although I, personally, dont like it. I prefer mandarin, orange, lemon...any citrus blends. They are uplifting.

 

Young Living Essential Oils have a good reputation, but I don't know of reasoning behind it. They have a website that suggests different blends or individuals. I prefer buying the individuals and then blending if desired. If you can find a store to test them, that's the best method. Pass the bottle under your nose quickly and note your initial gut feeling. Try not to think about it ("does this smell good?"). It's a very immediate instinctual response. EX: Lavendar smells ok to me, but it's emotionally downing.

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I like the oils as well. I used to buy the candle holders that had a spot to put oil in a little bowl above the oil.

 

I wanted to add that it's cheaper to buy the charcoal tablets at ebay in bulk. At the new age shop it's about 3.50 for 10 tablets. At ebay I can get 100 of them for 9.99.

Taper from Cymbalta, Paxil, Prozac & Antipsychotics finished June 2012.

Xanax 5% Taper - (8/12 - .5 mg) - (9/12 - .45) - (10/12 - .43) - (11/12 - .41) - (12/12 - .38)

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Young Living Essential Oils have a good reputation, but I don't know of reasoning behind it. They have a website that suggests different blends or individuals.

 

I've been watching this thread but didn't say anything because I'm new to using two blends from Young Living, I like to wait before I make announcements...I'm pretty amazed by them though, so far...they're subtle and powerful and seem to move energies about and through my body...I've been going through the ringer lately but the oils (and some other things that I've got going in my healing protocol) seems to really be moving things through...

 

I can't figure out the Young Living thing either...it looks like an MLM cult and is out of Utah so I imagine they're Mormon as well...nonetheless the two things I'm using are pretty astonishing. I have teacher/healer/friend who recommended them. She came through a really horrendous chronic illness with associated severe PTSD and is completely healed...she's really helpful...anyway...since Young Living came up I figured I'd toot the horn...the fact is I'm a born skeptic but they're helpful to me...that's that!!

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Oh...the Young Living oils are also VERY expensive!!

 

Yes! They are!

 

I'm excited to hear more about your results, Gia. I think this is a modality that is far underutilized. The olfactory senses are powerful and I don't understand the "mechanism of action", but believe it is more complex than simply liking or disliking a smell or relating it to a memory. I live near orange groves in Southern California and have gone out of my way to drive through them at blossom time.

 

Lavendar is known to be calming, even a muscle relaxant (anxiolytic?). I've used Lavendar with highstrung horses with mostly good effects. One horse stands out in my mind because he was so uptight that he couldn't relax to take a normal stride. A few whiffs of Lavendar and his whole demeanor ~ including body carriage and length of stride ~ relaxed. Amazing!

I, on the other hand, haven't had a problem with anxiety (prior to withdrawal) but more a LACK OF emotional and physical energy. I need to be Uplifted, not calmed. The citrus oils do that for me.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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clinical studies have established that Lavender and Jasmine are calming...

 

Jasmine was actually compared with benzos in that it too effects the GABA system...personally being benzo damaged I'd stay the heck away from Jasmine...I react to some scents just like a bad drug reaction...so yeah, potentially quite potent

 

I did a post on that here: http://beyondmeds.com/2012/05/05/lavendarjasmine/

 

I do think, like you, Barb, that scents get pretty complex and effect the brain/body/mind in all sorts of ways...

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Very interesting. I like jasmine. Will have to try that and rosemary.

 

A. Blake-Tracy recently did a piece on using aromatherapy (during withdrawal, I believe). I havent read her book and can't find the piece now.

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That sounds great. I love the smell of Jasmine too. I'm going to try it.

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Oh...the Young Living oils are also VERY expensive!!

 

Will look around a few places , like a local food coop, that carries "alternative" product s.

 

As far as Young Living Oils.... the sites do look cultish or like one of those things years ago like Amway.. remember that? But from the few people I've talked to and coincidentally one being a teacher I just met and eat lunch with ...her cousin sells it ... she swears by it. Has rheumatoid arthritis.

That's enough of a coincidence for me to feel confident in trying their oils.

 

Oh. You can buy them on Amazon too. I going to buy & try the Peace and Calming blend first.

 

It will be a month in two days since my first taper and I am still periodically waking up at around 2 ish but fall back asleep. This has happened to me before.. without a taper... but I am going to try the blend.... put two drops in a spray bottle of water and spray it on my sheets before bed and after an epson salt bath.... see if that helps. All other symptoms are gone. If I can start sleeping through the night I am going to make a tiny cut and go forward.

 

Wish me luck!

Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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I found an intriguing site here http://www.aromaire.info/products-page/essential-oils

 

The company started with researching MOLD and grew from there. From the page I pointed out , for each essential il they have an interesting blurb on what is supposed to do.

 

I would be curious what those of you with more knowledge think about the credibility of the information . Is it accurate? Based on what is commonly agreed to as "true"?

 

The prices look very good to me as well.

 

What is your favorite combination of oils for anxiety? Or depression?

Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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I think you have to go with your gut feeling like Barb says. Smells can have different effects on different people. So I'd go in person to smell essential oils and see what they do for you right off the bat. You can tell quality that way, too... some smell like chemicals. I'd go for the pure, unmixed essential oils, and make your own mixes if you like. Woodsy smells work for me. Lavender I like, but it is not calming for me.

 

What is absolutely true is that smells have a strong effect on emotions. The olfactory nerves are an integral part of the "limbic system", which is the conjunction of neurons and parts of your brain that are responsible for emotion.

 

I remember learning in neuroscience class in college that people who have completely lost their ability to smell (became anosmic) can also as a result lose their ability to feel. They become emotionally flat, because the limbic system circuit is interrupted.

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9/11-9/12 Waves and windows of recovery.
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11/12 Improved fairly quickly even though relapse was one of worst waves ever.

1/13 Best I've ever felt.

3/13 A bit of a relapse... then faster and shorter waves and windows.

4/14 Have to watch out for triggers, but feel completely normal about 80% of the time.

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What is absolutely true is that smells have a strong effect on emotions. The olfactory nerves are an integral part of the "limbic system", which is the conjunction of neurons and parts of your brain that are responsible for emotion.

I remember learning in neuroscience class in college that people who have completely lost their ability to smell (became anosmic) can also as a result lose their ability to feel. They become emotionally flat, because the limbic system circuit is interrupted.

 

Very interesting, Nadia!

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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More info on aromatherapy on the blog the other day...

 

Medical Aromatherapy

http://beyondmeds.com/2012/09/24/medical-aromatherapy/

 

I actually did not watch the whole video...but the guy seemed credible and worth listening to...there for information for those who want to know more

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Reporting back. I bought bergamat ( sp) and a lavender, amber and a small amount of ylang yang . I shall not lie. It all smells like crap individually. The one combination , bergamot and lavender, put on cotton and sitting on a counter smells pretty good.

 

I bought some diffusing reeds and a base carrier to see what happens when I diffuse it this way. Any suggestions welcome.

 

I like the aroma of clinique's Aroma Alixir. It is a body cream. I also like Lushes karma scent just introduced to me by my daughter. Their products are here

 

I like peppermint too. So why did I buy bergamot , lavender and amber? Because I can afford it right now. Pretty dumb. SO if anyone has experience with these fragrances.... please help!!! :unsure: I'm thinking perhaps I should get a citrusy oil to blend in? I know that the rule is no more than 3 oils together. I'm thinking lemon or mandarin?

Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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So I gave in and bought the oils and tried them , the lavendar and went to bed and had horrible panic. Can those cause that? I thought they would help. I asked the lady that sold me them and she said its.my body's way of detoxifying. Idk if I believe that. I'm very sensitive and all the people that sell them swear by them but I don't get my hopes up about anything. I think when your in withdrawal the only thing that helps is time. At least the only.proven thing.

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2895-antoinette-lexapro-withdrawal/page__p__31234__hl__antoinette__fromsearch__1#entry31234

 

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I have used essential oils and they can be powerful. Most importantly, everyone responds differently. People can have a paradoxical response just as with drugs. I always tell people to try a very small sniff (never put directly on skin) before buying.

 

I definitely do not buy the "detoxing" BS. Sounds a bit like doctors telling patients to increase dose after a bad reaction.

 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I don't like Lavendar, either.

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Thank you for responding! That's what I thought, it reminded me of when I had a bad reaction to lexapro and the doctors told me to stay on it. I feel like I can't trust anyone. I think its just a matter of time with withdrawal. There's not a miracle cure.

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2895-antoinette-lexapro-withdrawal/page__p__31234__hl__antoinette__fromsearch__1#entry31234

 

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Every time I feel bad trying something new like a supplement or whateve, its always the story if I feel bad--"you are detoxing". Well idk how true this is, but I know it does happen. I remember when I first did a real cleanse, I did feel bad but not too bad. When I was done, I felt better and cleaner.

 

So I guess detox can happen and yes these oils are really powerful stuff. Go slow!!!!!

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Every time I feel bad trying something new like a supplement or whateve, its always the story if I feel bad--"you are detoxing". Well idk how true this is, but I know it does happen. I remember when I first did a real cleanse, I did feel bad but not too bad. When I was done, I felt better and cleaner.

So I guess detox can happen and yes these oils are really powerful stuff. Go slow!!!!!

 

I agree about detox, in general. It's a 'feel worse before feeling better' process. I have no doubt that essential oils can be used to detox.

 

In the case of withdrawing from drugs, anything that detoxes or aims to speed the process will likely defeat the purpose of slowly tapering and may exacerbate symptoms. This was discussed elsewhere on forum in relation to cleanses, colonics, chelation. I will try to find it.

 

Just wanted to clarify my earlier statement.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Thank you. I'm gonna keep those at bay for now. I sure as hell don't need anything to feel worse.

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2895-antoinette-lexapro-withdrawal/page__p__31234__hl__antoinette__fromsearch__1#entry31234

 

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Ummm, sound lovely. I like to pet my rosemary and basil plants.

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There's a rosemary hedge down the road, and I like to run my hand over it while I'm walking past. The smell lingers on my hand. The owners of the hedge say everyone does it!

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January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/18/

CurrentSertraline: 0.08mg / Armour Thyroid

 

 

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http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/AlternativeMedicine/36197

 

Aromatherapy: Two Hours Is Too Much

By Cole Petrochko, Staff Writer, MedPage Today

Published: November 30, 2012

 

Action Points

  • Aromatherapy can help patients relax by initially reducing heart rate and blood pressure significantly, but those benefits may be reversed if exposure lasts more than an hour, a study found.
  • Note that exposure to the oil vapor for periods of 90 to 120 minutes was significantly associated with increased blood pressure and heart rate.

Aromatherapy can help patients relax by initially reducing heart rate and blood pressure significantly, but those benefits may be reversed if exposure lasts more than an hour, researchers found.

 

Presence of essential oil vapor -- the vapor from aromatherapy -- was significantly associated with reduced blood pressure and heart rate from 15 minutes to 60 minutes after exposure (P<0.05) among a sample of healthy spa workers in Taiwan, according to Kai-Jen Chuang, PhD, of Taipei Medical University in Taiwan, and colleagues.

 

However, exposure to the oil vapor for periods of 90 to 120 minutes was significantly associated with increased blood pressure and heart rate (P<0.05), they wrote online in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology.

 

"The inhalation of air pollutants has been reported to induce pulmonary oxidative stress, inflammation, and autonomic dysfunction," they noted, adding that those "biological processes may also be applied to the adverse effects of the total volatile organic compound exposure on cardiovascular health."

 

The researchers analyzed associations between heart and blood pressure with oil vapors generated by an aromatherapy machine known as an ultrasonic atomizer in 100 healthy, nonsmoking Taiwanese spa workers. Participants were mostly female (51%); younger (average age 22.5); and had an average heart rate of 71.2 beats/minute, an average systolic blood pressure of 123.5 mmHg, and an average diastolic blood pressure of 84.1 mmHg.

 

Each participant received a baseline screening and was exposed to essential oil vapor for 2 hours at three study site visits. During the 2-hour exposures, participant blood pressure and heart rate were recorded at 15-minute intervals. The researchers also measured levels of volatile organic compound -- the aromatherapy oils -- in the environment during the 2-hour period at 1-minute intervals.

 

Average levels of volatile organic compounds were 82.2 parts per billion, and levels of aromatherapy oils, blood pressure, heart rate, and study room humidity and temperature did not vary significantly between visits.

 

Mean declines in blood pressure and heart rate were greatest at 45 minutes into the aromatherapy sessions....

 

Declines in systolic blood pressure and heart rate were smallest at 15 minutes, while diastolic blood pressure declines were smallest at 60 minutes.

 

At 90 minutes to 120 minutes, heart rate and blood pressure were significantly higher (P<0.05), and were all highest at 120 minutes -- mean systolic blood pressure was elevated by 2.19 mmHg (95% CI 0.79 to 3.59), diastolic blood pressure was elevated by 1.79 mmHg (95% CI 0.66 to 2.86), and heart rate was raised by 1.70 beats/minute (95% CI 0.93 to 2.47).

 

They concluded that 1-hour aromatherapy exposure "could be a useful method of stress relief," but that prolonged exposure for over an hour "may be harmful to cardiovascular health in young, healthy subjects."

 

They added that future studies could measure long-term cardiopulmonary and psychological outcomes of vaporized essential oil exposure.

 

The authors noted that the study was limited by missing measures for other possible environmental air pollutants, limited intra-individual measures, additional unmeasured confounders, relevance of short-term heart rate and blood pressure effects on long-term outcomes, and limited numbers of measures from participants.

 

The study was funded by the National Science Council of Taiwan.

 

The authors declared no conflicts of interest.

 

Primary source: European Journal of Preventive Cardiology

Source reference:

Chuang KJ, et al "The effect of essential oil on heart rate and blood pressure among solus por aqua workers" Eur J Prev Cardiol 2012; DOI: 10.1177/2047487312469474.

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All of the above is interesting to me. I have found a combination that is calming and pleasant: drops of bergamot and an amber blend in a tub of warm water .

 

When I am dressed and walk by the bathroom the aroma makes me smile :)

 

Unfortunately I have wasted $ on aromas I don't like.. Sometimes what you smell from the bottle is entirely different than when you use it.

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b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

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November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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Oh, if it touches my skin, I'll get hives.

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Do you react if you smell it too?

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2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/18/

CurrentSertraline: 0.08mg / Armour Thyroid

 

 

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I like aromatherapy but I'm totally unscientific about it. I googled some recipes for anxiety/depression/whatever I wanted to "treat" and then smelled some oils at the shop. If I liked them, I bought them. Haven't used them fro a while, must get them out again. Not sure if they helped or not, but they were pleasant.

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2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/18/

CurrentSertraline: 0.08mg / Armour Thyroid

 

 

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Since I had a bad reaction to it, I stay away from it. I'm still somewhat hypersensitive.

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