btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I am sure I have permanent damage especially from xanax... I am suffering like crazy. My dizziness is so extreme, Ι can't get out of bed Recovery is a joke for me...Ι don't have many options... When I could not get out of bed cause of being so dizzy I bought and drank a baby drink call pedialite it helped me ... not a magic cure but a lot of help. They give it to babies when they are sick if they have been losing fluids from vomiting or diarrhea. That is the brand name I used above it may have a different name where you live. I came to it quite by accident. I also had a concussion once in my life and was dizzy all the time same as in wd truth the wd dizziness was worse in part I think cause I was expected to get up nothing else was broken with the concussion nobody expected me to get up I was suppose to be still suppose to be focusing on healing. So rest may be helpful get as much as you can. I don't like to say this because it is a drug but it was also helpful to me tho it may have complicated recovery I was already in deep by then... I did not just quit effexor cold turkey but a few other drugs they had been trying to give me to help me some mainstays at the time were klonopen was on it a few months for sweating he said... a blood pressure med verapamil put on for pounding heart and bp that went over 200 lipitor put on for high lipids ..lorazapam when needed hit and miss in the previous few months before I tried and lyrica mirapex cymbalta... they failed to help me. Who knows the details of all these drugs on a body but I quit taking everything one day after what at the time seemed like a talk with God or my dead mother... may have been a hallucination but to me it was real... and I listened. My visitor said "quit taking those drugs or lay in that bed and die.." I quit it all cold turkey. That is how I got here may have been a bad thing to do but I am still here... I did not lay in the bed and die. People can say as they like it does not matter what matters is I am here. So here is the other thing I did. From having the concussion I knew that a drug like gravol helps with being dizzy it is bascially the same drug the neurologist gives for concussion dizziness... so I bought some kid formula and I took 1/4 of a chewable kid strength gravol ... for all I know it is addictive and I do not think it is a good idea to think I will take this let the dizziness go down some and get up and do stuff... it is not a drug to keep going it is a drug to ease suffering lay down and rest. I have no clue how it would react or interact with bezos or other drugs that is why I don't like to say a lot about it ...but if used repsonsibly it may be of some use to you... when I got better where I could get up and go out I always had one of these kid gravol on me in case I got to dizzy to walk... so I could get home. This may be jumped on by people I don't know but it did help me get thru those dizzy days... again some research on interactions would be a good idea if your thinking of trying it . peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 after little research I discovered that this programm is scam...For a reason the specific supplements seem to be good but I don't Know...pfffffff only despair and nothing else... 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. current dose: .87,5 mg. However you got here Ricardo it seems like the benzo is the problem now perhaps a bit of paxil old crap too but the benzo is the walking.. or active drug. I think you should read Skylers introduction you can get their by clicking on her avatar... then do as she says and see the benzo forum. It would appear there are things about benzo withdrawal I know nothing about... I know how to white knuckle it ... cold turkey taught me that. So there are things for you to learn yet go to the benzo page and learn them ask as many questions as you need to ask. I may go take a look myself as we are never too old to learn something peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I went there and searched the forum for "dizzy" these are the threads that came up... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&fromMainBar=1 Anytime you can modify the drug your on rather than introducing a new drug into an already complicated situation it is best to modify but I am not a benzo person tho I have taken them I got off the white knuckle route you don't want to take that road seems you maybe are on it a bit now... so go see how to turn around. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I just saw your replies. thanks to all. I can't concentrate to write or read with so severe dizziness. It's impossible especially when I am not native speaker of English. At this moment the only thought I have is the way Ι will end my life...Ι can't eat , I can't sleep, Ι have 10 mountains in my head, I have the xanax which kills me and I can't decide what to do for this, I have completely numb sexual organs for ever, I dont have emotions, I have all my social environment, who believe I am crazy or I have natural depression (hahahahahahaha ) or its my choice to be sick ( not even ONE has read my posts here), I lost my dignity , Ι lost everything. I am crying loudly all the day . Ι have exhausted to search what happens into my brain and there is no way to learn. This kills me too. What means withdrawl? It tells me nothing to be honest , and the most serious damages happen to people while on drugs. We need go further. Is there actually desensitization of receptors and as a result inhibition of different hormones? and if the receptors are damaged how is it possible to be fixed especially without drugs? no way. Is there epigenetic mutation which means some degree of predisposition? Τhen, why it didn't happen to me the previous time I used SSRIS..We need medical researches. It is inconceivable that 99.999% of psychiatrists around the world have never heard these things. What "life" is it? I can't call it life anymore...it 's such a tragedy. all my human identity has been corrupted from some stupid pills because I had minor anxiety. I never had depression , I was the happiest person before the poisons. Ι don't have more patience and my brain cannot fix such a damage. I feel it , it's impossible. i apologize to all (and ecpecially to btd) who spent time to help me and I am telling these words now...I will try to reply soon in benzo-forum 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
btdt Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Well I am still here hope you are too. Thing is I have been over all the ground your running on now and facts are few and far between... meaning not much is known for sure even with what is known there is no magic cure... Time... In time you will heal to some degree... most of what you have now will go away and other things will come.. this is windows and waves... symptoms will change that is how it goes. I know how painful discouraging and frustrating it is ... all of it and to have no answers either.. it is insult to injury. I hope they have some ideas at the benzo forum.. we have a section here on benzos no sure if that is what you meant or not. I wish you peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 My brain produce only dizziness. Impossible. 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
btdt Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is common in wd Ricardo http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7264-help-with-dizzy-spells/?hl=dizzy WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ιt's true that most of people recover even after years from such a damage? Why I believe the opossite? Please tell me...My brain is so damaged the dizziness and the head pressure is out of human limits.I can't sleep 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 the success stories are only 2 pages... 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 I have severe brain damage,I can't get out of bed anymore... 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 24/7 dizziness witn serious faint feeling, imbalance, dead brain feeling, head pressure( I have a pneumatic drill in my head) beyond the zero emotions. It's impossible for someone to live like this for one day. I will take again a SSRI poison until I quit the Xanax with little hope to feel some energy and balance. I feel Like I have 0 serotonin 0 dopamine now in my brain. I Know it's dangerous but I haven't other choice...Differently "goodbye" from me. 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 So sorry Ricardo.. Can you try just a micro dose first. See how you do? You can build up slowly from there if you need. Best wishes. 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
btdt Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 24/7 dizziness witn serious faint feeling, imbalance, dead brain feeling, head pressure( I have a pneumatic drill in my head) beyond the zero emotions. It's impossible for someone to live like this for one day. I will take again a SSRI poison until I quit the Xanax with little hope to feel some energy and balance. I feel Like I have 0 serotonin 0 dopamine now in my brain. I Know it's dangerous but I haven't other choice...Differently "goodbye" from me. This is the thread about reinstating a drug... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/ I read it and it says to For case-by-case consideration of what YOU should do, please put your questions in an Introductions topic. but it would not hurt for you to read it ahead of time.. you could always pm a mod if you don't hear back about RI and your in a hurry to get started but reading this will give you an understanding of what your attempting to do. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
LucaDiProspero Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 24/7 dizziness witn serious faint feeling, imbalance, dead brain feeling, head pressure( I have a pneumatic drill in my head) beyond the zero emotions. It's impossible for someone to live like this for one day. I will take again a SSRI poison until I quit the Xanax with little hope to feel some energy and balance. I feel Like I have 0 serotonin 0 dopamine now in my brain. I Know it's dangerous but I haven't other choice...Differently "goodbye" from me. I have the same symptoms: no energy, zero emotions, dead brain feelings. From the web and from what my doc said SSRI will worsen your current symptoms...the best solution suggested to me is Abilify in low dosage or Wellbutrin, also Omega 3 and vitamin D. March 2010/ October 2010: Sereupin 30mg a day, EN 15 drops a day October 2010/ 1st November 2014: Cipralex 50mg a day (tapered to 40mg a day in August 2013), EN 15 drops a day (switched to Lexotan 15 drops a day in September 2014) Started Risperdal 1mg a day on the 1st November 2014. Stopped Risperdal on the 23 November 2014 because that day, after a short mental crysis, I suddenly lost all my emotions,desires,motivation and they not come back yet. Stopped Cipralex C/T in December 2014. Added, tapered and stopped other drugs during the following months (also a voluntary hospitalization in January 2015 for a suicide attempt)...no changes yet. I'm med free from 3rd December 2015 Link to comment
Faithbarelysurviving Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 24/7 dizziness witn serious faint feeling, imbalance, dead brain feeling, head pressure( I have a pneumatic drill in my head) beyond the zero emotions. It's impossible for someone to live like this for one day. I will take again a SSRI poison until I quit the Xanax with little hope to feel some energy and balance. I feel Like I have 0 serotonin 0 dopamine now in my brain. I Know it's dangerous but I haven't other choice...Differently "goodbye" from me. I know all about head pressureRicardo! You are not alone... Please have patience and read : a great Mental Health Care System indeed/Never been hospitalized prior to starting meds -Not sure all is accurate:2005 Diag. with major depression and anxiety after second birth -switched AD,getting worse (maybe:Celexa, Effexor, Wellbutrin-diagnosed with bp -Zyprexa, stopped it fast, got hosp.,Seroquel incr. at 300mg, wors. depr, akathisia bad, -changed dr.,dropped Seroquel 300mg to 100mg !!!- -new dr.got me off Seroquel in 1 mth at home!!Lamictal to help...getting worse,was also taking Clonazepam -severe muscle twiches, dp/dr,neck and shoulder muscles tight straight like cement, psychotic, bedridden for 1yr -Got put on Zoloft in the hosp.,and 3 mg of Clonazepam, "Stabilized" some after some months, 5-6, -Came off Zoloft by dropping some weekly, not knowing better!debilitating symptoms, got back on, tried to reduce Clonazepam after research.Prof. Ashton; hosp., asked dr. to follow Dr Ashton, he dropped 3 mg Clon. in One day!put on much less Valium...hysterical,pain,rage,couldn t breathe,akathisia etc etc -Zoloft up to 200mg!, hyperv. muscles tight like cement...my dr., on vacation!!Other dr red.zoloft, gave me Remeron Current meds:Buspirone 20mg,Tegretol200mg,Trazadone 50 mg,Clonaz. 3mg,Escital.15mg,Propran.20mg,Bupropr.150mg,Baclofen30mg,Gabapentin200mg, taken 4 times/day in various comb Link to comment
Faithbarelysurviving Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I know all about benzo withdrawal, I am still suffering from it.....Have you tried increasing it a little and see if it helps? I know about brain damage feelings, I am living with it. Stay strong Ricardo, Praying for you Please have patience and read : a great Mental Health Care System indeed/Never been hospitalized prior to starting meds -Not sure all is accurate:2005 Diag. with major depression and anxiety after second birth -switched AD,getting worse (maybe:Celexa, Effexor, Wellbutrin-diagnosed with bp -Zyprexa, stopped it fast, got hosp.,Seroquel incr. at 300mg, wors. depr, akathisia bad, -changed dr.,dropped Seroquel 300mg to 100mg !!!- -new dr.got me off Seroquel in 1 mth at home!!Lamictal to help...getting worse,was also taking Clonazepam -severe muscle twiches, dp/dr,neck and shoulder muscles tight straight like cement, psychotic, bedridden for 1yr -Got put on Zoloft in the hosp.,and 3 mg of Clonazepam, "Stabilized" some after some months, 5-6, -Came off Zoloft by dropping some weekly, not knowing better!debilitating symptoms, got back on, tried to reduce Clonazepam after research.Prof. Ashton; hosp., asked dr. to follow Dr Ashton, he dropped 3 mg Clon. in One day!put on much less Valium...hysterical,pain,rage,couldn t breathe,akathisia etc etc -Zoloft up to 200mg!, hyperv. muscles tight like cement...my dr., on vacation!!Other dr red.zoloft, gave me Remeron Current meds:Buspirone 20mg,Tegretol200mg,Trazadone 50 mg,Clonaz. 3mg,Escital.15mg,Propran.20mg,Bupropr.150mg,Baclofen30mg,Gabapentin200mg, taken 4 times/day in various comb Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 thanks LoveandLight and btdt. Luca, it's unbeliavable. It seems we haven't any way to escape from this constant nightmare. I Know an SSRi will worsen my symptoms. It's the most likely scenario. I only remember when I took the poison the last time I had full energy and no dizziness. It was the only good effect and I punt on it. But now my brain is different and I don't have many hopes. The anhedonia and PSSD will worsen for sure...I don't have a doubt about it. However, I want so desperately to feel some relax , energy and balance. I don't Know If I can live like this any longer. I took 2 pills Wellbutrin one year ago and it was hell. Panic attacks all the day, no sleep, aκathisia... Do you suffer from anhedonia and emptiness? it 's the most inhuman. Many times I think about suicide and even that seems like I think about...the weather. I have so severe anesthesia. U N B E L I A V A B L E. How powerfull drugs my God 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Yes, I have this Ricardo xxx 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 faith, I have maybe tolerance w/d from benzos but there is no meaning to increase the dose because it's only vicious circle. Life is incredibly difficult now, I can't turn my head...Ι am battling the suicide every minute. We need a miracle, faith. I am praying for you too. 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Has anyone tried a dopamine agonist for PSSD? 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
johnson Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hi Ricardo, Any progress on your PSSD? I've been struggling for 2.5 years now since i stopped taking my pills. Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Ι have AND b12 inefficiency. What can I do? can I take supplements? Because I 've read especially vit B are very stimulant for our condition.. johnson, no improvements in PSSD and other symptoms Unfortunately. 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
LucaDiProspero Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 hey ricardo, sorry for no improvements for you, same here no new good news. all docs I've met during these months said a big NO to dopamine agonists for the instant addiction to them (even from the first dose). I tried magnesium and omega 3 supplements: magnesium made me restless so I stopped it, omega 3 is a bit stimulating but not too much so I'm sticking with it. So you can try and take a supplement for a couple of days and see the body/mind reactions,that's the best way imho. March 2010/ October 2010: Sereupin 30mg a day, EN 15 drops a day October 2010/ 1st November 2014: Cipralex 50mg a day (tapered to 40mg a day in August 2013), EN 15 drops a day (switched to Lexotan 15 drops a day in September 2014) Started Risperdal 1mg a day on the 1st November 2014. Stopped Risperdal on the 23 November 2014 because that day, after a short mental crysis, I suddenly lost all my emotions,desires,motivation and they not come back yet. Stopped Cipralex C/T in December 2014. Added, tapered and stopped other drugs during the following months (also a voluntary hospitalization in January 2015 for a suicide attempt)...no changes yet. I'm med free from 3rd December 2015 Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 thank you luca. Now I am in severe panic attack and despair because as I said my blood tests showed B12 inefficiency.and it is by far the most important vitamin. i read it causes original nevrological damages and a ton of other symptoms. propably this **** exacerbates my symptoms(mainly the dizziness and the weakness) since normal people without WD or adverse effects of psychotropic drugs feel awfully with this inefficiency. BUT: many people with WD argue that this type of vitamins are very stimulant for OUR nervous system and I don' t know what to decide again.. an other dead end... The doctor told me that I need b12 shots, ie with injections! I can't even imagine how much damaged is my nervous system.... Please Alto, if you read this, tell me an opinion! 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 I forgot to say that this month I was diagnosed mistakenly with Addison disease (adrenal inefficiency)! The cortizol levels were very low (3.5) the first time but the other day was 40( over the normal)! fortunately I went to an other doctor and he told me the culprit is the drugs and there is no original adrenal disease which is a serious thing. I think a big piece of the damage is related with HPA axis... Too many hormones are out of balance. How is it possible for body system to control a so various damage??it's on fire all the time...pffff 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 There is no end. Almost 2 years in the same -and even worse - condition. I have lost and my last hope. I started to believe that the survivors from this are in the same percentage with cancer - survivors. I think I have give up 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
Pugknows Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Ricardo, I'm sorry you are suffering so much after 2 years of this hell. On the bright side, a Vit B12 deficiency is easy to fix with diet and supplements. You'll be feeling a lot better in no time. This is a concrete problem with a concrete solution. Unlike withdrawal symptoms, this is actually "fixable." Hugs to you, Pug January 2012 - Prescribed 900mg gabapentin and 30mg Norco for lower lumber spinal stenosis pain. September 2013 - Spinal fusion surgery, 6 levels. Hospital ramped up meds 1500mg gabapentin, 100mg Norco, 80mg Oxycontin, 25mg Fentanyl patch. January 2014 - Sever nausea daily and with back pain every 4 hours. 2 trips to ER. First endoscopy found ulcer. Treated with Sucralfate and PPI. Second endo in May found no ulcers. Doctors said it was the opiates causing the nausea. CT'd Oxycontin, Fentanyl patch. July 2014 - Lost 48 lbs. due to not eating because of severe nausea. GP prescribed Prozac 20mg and Ativan 2mg prn. Tried for 4 days, quit. Two week followup GP said keep taking Prozac. 4 days, quit again. Ativan taken rarely prn for anxiety and appetite. August 2014 - Went to detox. Off opiates. Still nauseous, helmet head, drugged feeling. Doctor CT'd gabapentin. Ended up in ER. Found 2 gallstones. Gabapentin reinstated at 900mg. Tried botched up and down taper to get off Gabapentin. No tapering advice from doctor. Said to just CT again. September 2014 - Coded on table during gallbladder surgery. Developed liver biloma due to CPR by doctor. Had bile bulb inserted for 2 wks to drain. October 2014 - Gallbladder removed. Still nauseous, 3am cortisol surging, drugged helmet head, vertigo, breathlessness, whooshing head, heart palps. November 8th, 2014 - CT'd gabapentin suggested by family and 4 different doctors. Was told no withdrawal is associated with gabapentin. Have been in hell ever since. No windows, just one big tsunami every day with same symptoms for 4 months. December 26, 2014 - Found SA. At least I know I'm not insane. My family thinks I'm doing this to myself. Akathesia has become unbearable. March 10, 2015 - In absolute daily hell with no relief. Currently taking magnesium 200mg before bedtime. Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 thanks Pug,but how is it possible to recover when I have so severe damage from Paxil and so major dependence on xanax? Usually people here have one of two...my chances are almost nil. Τhis is my fate 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
Faithbarelysurviving Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Prayers and hugs for you Ricardo. I feel your pain and distress. I wish I could be of the tiniest little help. Stay strong and have faith. Miracles do happen, God sees our suffering Faith. Please have patience and read : a great Mental Health Care System indeed/Never been hospitalized prior to starting meds -Not sure all is accurate:2005 Diag. with major depression and anxiety after second birth -switched AD,getting worse (maybe:Celexa, Effexor, Wellbutrin-diagnosed with bp -Zyprexa, stopped it fast, got hosp.,Seroquel incr. at 300mg, wors. depr, akathisia bad, -changed dr.,dropped Seroquel 300mg to 100mg !!!- -new dr.got me off Seroquel in 1 mth at home!!Lamictal to help...getting worse,was also taking Clonazepam -severe muscle twiches, dp/dr,neck and shoulder muscles tight straight like cement, psychotic, bedridden for 1yr -Got put on Zoloft in the hosp.,and 3 mg of Clonazepam, "Stabilized" some after some months, 5-6, -Came off Zoloft by dropping some weekly, not knowing better!debilitating symptoms, got back on, tried to reduce Clonazepam after research.Prof. Ashton; hosp., asked dr. to follow Dr Ashton, he dropped 3 mg Clon. in One day!put on much less Valium...hysterical,pain,rage,couldn t breathe,akathisia etc etc -Zoloft up to 200mg!, hyperv. muscles tight like cement...my dr., on vacation!!Other dr red.zoloft, gave me Remeron Current meds:Buspirone 20mg,Tegretol200mg,Trazadone 50 mg,Clonaz. 3mg,Escital.15mg,Propran.20mg,Bupropr.150mg,Baclofen30mg,Gabapentin200mg, taken 4 times/day in various comb Link to comment
LucaDiProspero Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 oh ricardo I feel your pain. I'm one year since my crash caused by meds and no improvements...I have severe damage from lexapro (given to me at 40mg a day for two year, FDA suggests to not go above 20 mg a day) and risperdal. I searched in the web, there are only a bunch of people who are on that dosage: there are no studies on the consequences of a long term high-dosage of lexapro so noone knows what are the damages done to the brain. Please ricardo, we must have faith! March 2010/ October 2010: Sereupin 30mg a day, EN 15 drops a day October 2010/ 1st November 2014: Cipralex 50mg a day (tapered to 40mg a day in August 2013), EN 15 drops a day (switched to Lexotan 15 drops a day in September 2014) Started Risperdal 1mg a day on the 1st November 2014. Stopped Risperdal on the 23 November 2014 because that day, after a short mental crysis, I suddenly lost all my emotions,desires,motivation and they not come back yet. Stopped Cipralex C/T in December 2014. Added, tapered and stopped other drugs during the following months (also a voluntary hospitalization in January 2015 for a suicide attempt)...no changes yet. I'm med free from 3rd December 2015 Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks for the replies. Sorry if I cant write often. I have so severe dizziness with faint feeling and awful head pressure. it' s the most unbearable symptom and it is propably side effect from the abuse of xanax poison. Can Xanax kill me?? 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
Pugknows Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Ricardo, Have you tried reducing the Xanax? Your CNS is in turmoil with the Lexapro withdrawal. Maybe the Xanax is too much for your raw nerves to handle. Xanax is a nasty Benzo. I wouldn't be surprised if it was causing you to feel worse in withdrawal. Love and hugs to you. Pug January 2012 - Prescribed 900mg gabapentin and 30mg Norco for lower lumber spinal stenosis pain. September 2013 - Spinal fusion surgery, 6 levels. Hospital ramped up meds 1500mg gabapentin, 100mg Norco, 80mg Oxycontin, 25mg Fentanyl patch. January 2014 - Sever nausea daily and with back pain every 4 hours. 2 trips to ER. First endoscopy found ulcer. Treated with Sucralfate and PPI. Second endo in May found no ulcers. Doctors said it was the opiates causing the nausea. CT'd Oxycontin, Fentanyl patch. July 2014 - Lost 48 lbs. due to not eating because of severe nausea. GP prescribed Prozac 20mg and Ativan 2mg prn. Tried for 4 days, quit. Two week followup GP said keep taking Prozac. 4 days, quit again. Ativan taken rarely prn for anxiety and appetite. August 2014 - Went to detox. Off opiates. Still nauseous, helmet head, drugged feeling. Doctor CT'd gabapentin. Ended up in ER. Found 2 gallstones. Gabapentin reinstated at 900mg. Tried botched up and down taper to get off Gabapentin. No tapering advice from doctor. Said to just CT again. September 2014 - Coded on table during gallbladder surgery. Developed liver biloma due to CPR by doctor. Had bile bulb inserted for 2 wks to drain. October 2014 - Gallbladder removed. Still nauseous, 3am cortisol surging, drugged helmet head, vertigo, breathlessness, whooshing head, heart palps. November 8th, 2014 - CT'd gabapentin suggested by family and 4 different doctors. Was told no withdrawal is associated with gabapentin. Have been in hell ever since. No windows, just one big tsunami every day with same symptoms for 4 months. December 26, 2014 - Found SA. At least I know I'm not insane. My family thinks I'm doing this to myself. Akathesia has become unbearable. March 10, 2015 - In absolute daily hell with no relief. Currently taking magnesium 200mg before bedtime. Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 PugKnows thank you.. I 've stuck in a specific dose as regards the Xanax. Unfortunately...I Know it's very hamful from my system but I can't reduce it right now. I 've incredibly unbearable physical symptoms (extreme dizziness and weakness) and it 's the only thing that help me for 2-3 hours. Yesteday I was all the night at hospital with tachycardia (150beats!) in emergency room. It was propably the worst day in my life. I was feeling that now is the end. I had 150 beats for 6 hours. They gave me a b-blocker and they told me it was from anxiety. bullsh*t! it 's a consequence from the poisons but nobody doctor is able to understand that. Τhis ignorance is something unthinkable.Today Ι am afraid all day because I searched the web and I found that there is a specific type of arrythmia which called "Torsade de Pointes" as side effect from psychatric drugs (not only) and it is VERY dangerous. Has anyone heard about this? Altostrata? It's all day in my f*cking brain... 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 22, 2015 Administrator Share Posted November 22, 2015 I've read about it, Ricardo. Have you gotten tachycardia often? When does it happen relative to when you take Xanax? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
ricardo7 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Oh guys I am afraid so much...I have no words. Alto, how can I understand if I have this type of arrythmia?it is shown in ECG or not? Does it happen often? I 've visited the hospital 3 times in total, 2 for tachycardia and 1 for irregular beat. No it doesn't happen when I take xanax. 4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems. Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg) After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD. xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg. taper september 2014 from 1.5mg. current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 22, 2015 Administrator Share Posted November 22, 2015 The hospital should put you on a monitor to trace the heart rhythm. They didn't do that? Does it happen when you skip taking Xanax? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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