☼ bruno2016: Hello everyone, off Celexa

[Altostrata]

You're very kind, Zepp. Thank you.

 

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[Addict1]

Hi, zeppelin 2011 my name is David and I see it's been around a year since your post about nexalin.

What have been your results from side effects to success.

I'm thinking about starting this treatment.

[bruno2016]

Hi, zeppelin 2011 my name is David and I see it's been around a year since your post about nexalin.

What have been your results from side effects to success.

I'm thinking about starting this treatment.

 

no real success at all long term. Waste of money because of the fact that these idiots never realized that there is something called protracted withdrawal and pulled me off the drugs fast. I think nexalin can work, but it didnt do much for me because my main issue was withdrawal syndrome. I think nexalin works with drugs better than alone. I think if one continued to use it, perhaps it could help to withdrawal slowly off the drugs, but I only did it for a month or so (which is the way its supposed to be). Its not worth the price. its like $3000 and I paid a total of around $4500 (all my money) for the nexalin, IV nutrients, and an EEG.

 

So,I would say it can help, but for how long and under what circumstances? Didnt do much for my withdrawal and this clinic pulled me off the drugs in a week which is DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!

 

I would use your money to see a specialist who takes a holistic approach to dealing with "mental health" issues. Also get a good therapist, watch the diet, exercise, meditate, pray, etc. If you want to do electrical stuff, try the fisher wallace stimulator or something. I have one and it helps me relax.

 

The clinic that has nexalin here, has some good things but they are very ignorant about drug withdrawal even though they have a book buy Ann Blake in the lobby. Really? I talked to Ann Blake about this and she said she was going to call this clinic and tell them how dangerous it is to pull people off these drugs so fast. But I do like their IV nutrients and neurofeedback. The psychologist is good there as well. Her son Mark tries to act like he is knowledgeable about health issues but really isnt. Find a real professional. This clinic is too expensive anyways.

[bruno2016]

I havent posted here in a long time and was going to post on PP but see it got shut down. Anyways, I am now 3 years and 3 months off but lately have run into some major problems and need some insight, if at all possible. Current symptoms are: daily malaise, fatigue, kidney and liver discomfort, cold hands and feet, weight loss, cognition problems, depression....etc

 

I was doing  very well up until this past May. I was traveling and feeling good. I felt as though WD was slowly going away (given the fact I went cold turkey after almost 8 years that was amazing progress). I was doing all the right things with diet, lifestyle, etc. Anyways, around April, I felt so good I decided to date again and met a girl who had a very shady past including being involved in the so called stripping business. Ok, whatever I dont judge so gave it a shot. I began feeling malaise after we began relations but just shrugged it off as an effect of staying up late with her. The following month (May) I went to Central America to backpack for a month. I got sick there the last day and when I returned to  the states I remained sick for 2 weeks however I never really recovered from that sickness that I assume I got from traveling. These two events (the girl and the sickness) were the beginning of the hell I have been dealing with ever since. 

 

After the sickness I eventually went to the doc and basic blood work showed elevated liver enzymes so it was suspected I had hepatitis. I tested for B and C and those were neg, but didnt test for the other ones because I guess the consider those as not serious. This testing was in June and ever since then I have been to a total of three docs and around 10 visits. 

 

The other tests showed elevated eosinophils, creatinine, positive ANA...but nothing that really jumps out. I have done a variety of tests and recently did various Autoimmune tests like CRP, SED, RA, anti Smith, anti dsDNA, etc. The only thing I am showing positive for with regards to possible Auto Immune is positive ANA which is why I am here: A few years back I was taking Effexor and it was so expensive that I began looking around for an alternative. I stumbled across an online pharmacy that had a generic version from INdia. Well, I tried that and got severe joint pains all over. A while later I ended up going to the doc and that was the first time I got a positive ANA but all else "appeared" normal. 

 

So, could these drugs cause a positive ANA and lead to an auto immune disease? 

 

I have been ill for about 8 months now and have made little progress. I pray that the way I feel has something to do with WD but I am scared that I am moving towards an autoimmune disease bc of the way I feel. Perhaps the infections are still wreaking havoc? IDK. I am really lost and just want to be well again. 

[spectio]

Hey, Zepp, been thinking of emailing you and here you are! I don't know much about the autoimmune thing in relation to the drugs we've been on but I noticed you'd done some back packing. Do they have a problem with Lyme disease in the area where you walked?

And what kind of symptoms do you have now? Are they familiar,like during withdrawal? Did you develop jaundice ?

Did you get any info from the girl you were with, like was she fatigued or showed any signs of sickness herself?

 

I would guess WD prominently plays a part in this but it does seem like there's something new, too. I'm sorry you're feeling bad. Have you already seen an autoimmune specialist? I wonder if the area you were in is endemic for any strange parasites or viruses.

 

Hit the internet with dr. google and see if anything odd pops up from that area.

[bruno2016]

This is bruno2006 from PP. I have been off for three years and a few months and have not been doing well the past 8 months or so and am wondering about some stuff.

 

Firstly, i began to improve after about two years off. I began traveling, dating, and enjoying life. I then met a girl and right after that traveled abroad where i got a flu like illness and it has been downhill since then.

 

I am wondering, has anyone here developed an autoimmune disease while on the drugs or in wd? I ask bc i am now producing autoantibodies and idk if this is a result of the infection i got back in may and not sure if wd or the drugs have anything to do with this. What is certain tho is that going cold turkey really messed me up and i really hope that the wd and drugs arent the cause of the autoantibody production.

[Wildflower0214]

 

This is bruno2006 from PP. I have been off for three years and a few months and have not been doing well the past 8 months or so and am wondering about some stuff.

 

Firstly, i began to improve after about two years off. I began traveling, dating, and enjoying life. I then met a girl and right after that traveled abroad where i got a flu like illness and it has been downhill since then.

 

I am wondering, has anyone here developed an autoimmune disease while on the drugs or in wd? I ask bc i am now producing autoantibodies and idk if this is a result of the infection i got back in may and not sure if wd or the drugs have anything to do with this. What is certain tho is that going cold turkey really messed me up and i really hope that the wd and drugs arent the cause of the autoantibody production.[/quote

 

 

What diagnostic tests have you been given?

[Petunia]

Hi Zepplin,

I joined your 2 introduction threads together, its one intro topic per member here.  Please add updates, information and ask questions here, this is your intro/update topic.  You can bookmark it so its easier to find if you need to.

 

We have a topic on autoimmune diseases being triggered by withdrawal here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/

[bruno2016]

Hi Zepplin,

I joined your 2 introduction threads together, its one intro topic per member here.  Please add updates, information and ask questions here, this is your intro/update topic.  You can bookmark it so its easier to find if you need to.

 

We have a topic on autoimmune diseases being triggered by withdrawal here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/

What is the big deal with me starting a new thread without having to have it moved here? Moving it here requires people to scan through all the comments. Just want to start a fresh thread.

[bruno2016]

This is bruno2006 from PP. I have been off for three years and a few months and have not been doing well the past 8 months or so and am wondering about some stuff.

 

Firstly, i began to improve after about two years off. I began traveling, dating, and enjoying life. I then met a girl and right after that traveled abroad where i got a flu like illness and it has been downhill since then.

 

I am wondering, has anyone here developed an autoimmune disease while on the drugs or in wd? I ask bc i am now producing autoantibodies and idk if this is a result of the infection i got back in may and not sure if wd or the drugs have anything to do with this. What is certain tho is that going cold turkey really messed me up and i really hope that the wd and drugs arent the cause of the autoantibody production.[/quote

 

 

What diagnostic tests have you been given?

 

All the standard ones for lupus and RA such as crp, esr, ant smith, dsDna, and some others. My kidney and liver have been affected as well (elevated liver enzymes and creatinine) so had to do ultrasounds and cts even a ct of my brain. So far only thing is positive autoantibodies and a nephrologist referral. I was fine until the flu like illness however in 2009 i took some generic effexor from india and got bad joint pains and went to doc and initially was neg ANA but later positive so i think the drugs set me up for this.

[Wildflower0214]

 

Hi Zepplin,

I joined your 2 introduction threads together, its one intro topic per member here. Please add updates, information and ask questions here, this is your intro/update topic. You can bookmark it so its easier to find if you need to.

 

We have a topic on autoimmune diseases being triggered by withdrawal here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/

What is the big deal with me starting a new thread without having to have it moved here? Moving it here requires people to scan through all the comments. Just want to start a fresh thread.

People only get one thread in the Intro Forum. You can start threads about specific concerns in other relevant forums If you want.

[bruno2016]

 

 

Hi Zepplin,

I joined your 2 introduction threads together, its one intro topic per member here. Please add updates, information and ask questions here, this is your intro/update topic. You can bookmark it so its easier to find if you need to.

We have a topic on autoimmune diseases being triggered by withdrawal here:http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/

What is the big deal with me starting a new thread without having to have it moved here? Moving it here requires people to scan through all the comments. Just want to start a fresh thread.

People only get one thread in the Intro Forum. You can start threads about specific concerns in other relevant forums If you want.

I already posted this in the symptom forum and it was moved here. That is why i asked for it not to be moved bc i simply wanted to start a fresh thread so members wouldnt have to read through all these irrelevant comments.

[Brandy]

 

Hi Zepplin,

I joined your 2 introduction threads together, its one intro topic per member here.  Please add updates, information and ask questions here, this is your intro/update topic.  You can bookmark it so its easier to find if you need to.

 

We have a topic on autoimmune diseases being triggered by withdrawal here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/

What is the big deal with me starting a new thread without having to have it moved here? Moving it here requires people to scan through all the comments. Just want to start a fresh thread.

 

 

Hi, Zepp/Bruno,

 

SA is organized differently than PP. It takes a bit of getting used to, but having everything about you (questions and replies, journaling and notes, etc.) in one thread not only makes for things being more organized, but makes it much more likely that you and those replying to your posts will see patterns or things of significance that might be missed otherwise.

 

Masses of important information got lost in the shuffle at PP over time, and especially when members posted many times over time. SA's way of organizing the site makes it much easier for anyone replying to go back readily and learn more about one person's particular case. I'm seeing that much more accurate and personalized information is given to people this way.

 

An Intro thread is more than an intro or journal. It's more like your own small "website" here on SA, for anything that pertains to your particular case. Other forums are for discussing specific topics and keeping those (like questions/fact sheets about how to turn a med into liquid, discussions about matters of the spirit, etc.) are also readily found and followed in their own topics in other sections of the site. So in this section, it's like each person has their own "home" where they can post and others can visit and offer advice and support relevant to them.

 

Also, on PP people were told that if a thread was more than a year old (other than journals, which were actually one per customer like Intro/Update threads here), to start a new thread. Since tapering and healing often takes more than a year - or new issues can come up as in your case - having a person's posts in one place is really helpful in getting the most appropriate advice. It also benefits others who relate to and can learn from someone's case and see the full picture.

 

Give it a little time and I think you'll see how well this works!

[Altostrata]

Zepp, we want your entire history in one topic, not scattered all over the site.

[Brandy]

Zepp, I just realized that I didn't explain that not only do people not need to read all the comments in a person's thread, they usually don't  unless they choose to, to learn more in order to give a more informed and appropriate reply.

 

We don't have a "new posts" section here like PP did. When one clicks on the "Introductions and updates" forum, the posts are listed in order of most recent first, of course. To the far right of each thread title, you see the most recent post. If you click on the date below the most recent poster's name, you are linked directly to that most recent post in the thread. Then if you want, you can just scroll up as much as you want.

 

Another way to catch up a bit on someone's thread, especially if you don't check in here frequently, is to click on the last page number. The page numbers are listed under the thread title.

 

I usually start with the first option (most recent post). Like I said, you get used to it quickly. I find I save a lot of time because on PP I'd almost always do searches to read the person's other posts in order avoid giving advice or feedback inappropriate in that person's case. (Signatures are important but certainly don't tell everything.)

 

That meant reading a lot of irrelevant posts (that person's replies to others, including a lot of "Hi there, so-and-so" and "Woot!" posts, lol. Maddeningly time-consuming. (And more importantly, sometimes found much later and by chance, that I'd missed older posts that would have made me give different, better advice.)  Having gotten used to how this site is organized, I now much prefer this and find information I need about anything much more readily.

 

btw, I did one of my usual hasty cut-and-paste mashup mind bogglers on my previous post here. I meant to say:

 

 

Other forums are for discussing specific topics and keeping those (like questions/fact sheets about how to turn a med into liquid, discussions about matters of the spirit, etc.) are also readily found organized and readily accessible, and followed in their own topics in other sections of the site.

 

Or something like that lol. 

[Altostrata]

If you click on the View New Content link at the upper right of every page, you will see every topic that's been recently updated, newest posts first.

[Altostrata]

Zepp, I added our cheerful "here comes the sun" symbol

☼

to the title of your Intro topic, to show you're recovering.

Please continue to let us know how you're doing. I hope you will add your story to our Recovery Success Stories eventually!

[bruno2016]

Hello

 

I have been off nearly 4 years now and just did a backpacking trip around southern africa! I still have fatigue and some other issues but am living and enjoying life as you all will too. Peace and love!

[LoveandLight]

Yeah! Brilliant to hear

[bluebalu86]

Awesome So happy for you. I hope we all get there eventually.

[Cressida]

Hello

 

I have been off nearly 4 years now and just did a backpacking trip around southern africa! I still have fatigue and some other issues but am living and enjoying life as you all will too. Peace and love!

Many thanks for encouraging update and best wishes to you. Am off 38 months and making very real progress at last

[Petunia]

Hi Zepp,

Thank you for the great update. I moved the topic you started to your intro/update thread here, because its about your own journey of recovery.

 

I hope you will add your story to our Recovery Success Stories eventually!

[bruno2016]

I remember going by the rule of thumb i heard: 1-4 years for full recovery. Id say im about 75% now. Hope you all are well. Peace

[tgirl]

Hello Zepplin,

And welcome to S/A.

Can you tell us a little more about your story?

 

Tgirl

[Nomoreheadmeds]

welcome 'zepp2011'

[caperjackie]

Hello Zepp ......... 4 and a half years off and would say I am about 80%. Cannot discount aging though ......... there is no telling how I would have been at this age even if I had never taken 'meds'. Good to hear that you are doing ok!

[LucaDiProspero]

welcome Zepplin and grats for your progress.

What meds did you take?

[divalee]

Hello Zepp please come back and tell us your history.

 

xxxx

[Petunia]

Hi Zepp,

I joined your new intro/update topic with your original one, its one thread per member in this section. Please add to this topic, you may bookmark or follow it so its easy to find again. If you would like to change the title of this topic to something more appropriate to your situation now, just let me know.

 

Thank you for the update, its great to see you are still getting better.

[bruno2016]

I dont get on here much anymore. Are our histories not visible anymore? I took AD for 7 1/2 years and am now 4 years off. Doing pretty well; living life as i should.

[bruno2016]

Hello Zepp ......... 4 and a half years off and would say I am about 80%. Cannot discount aging though ......... there is no telling how I would have been at this age even if I had never taken 'meds'. Good to hear that you are doing ok!

[bruno2016]

Nice to see your message. Didnt we use to see each other on PP? My name was bruno there.

[bruno2016]

welcome Zepplin and grats for your progress.

What meds did you take?

Hello. All info in my sig

[Altostrata]

Good to hear, Zepp. Are you ready for a success story?

[downtongirl]

Hi Zeppelin...I am considering the nexalin therapy for insomnia due to withdrawal...did you suffer from insomnia and do you think the nexalin therapy would work for insomnia? Thanks in advance for your reply!

[bruno2016]

Hello everyone, 

 

I was on here a few years back but dont think i have my account anymore. Anyways, I thought it was appropriate to post a 5 year update and positive message for you all. 

 

I was on a variety of AD drugs for about 8 years. My first one was effexor which i stared at 19 years old, right after high school. Maybe i was 20, idk. 

 

I had so many side effects from weight gain, to colon spasms, to everything. So I finally got off, but the wrong way. You see, I tapered in about a week....hugest mistake ever. But, here i am and i never went back.

 

So here I am today, doing pretty well. I work in the security industry, am a fitness trainer, and am currently studying holistic herbalism (mainly to incorporate in my fitness programs). I have come a very long way. I am also recently engaged. Can you believe it? From bed ridden to engaged to studying to working...life goes on people and you will heal up very slowly.

 

I do still have problems. I tend to sink into a dark hole when stress hits me. My physical health is pretty good tho. I am in great shape and usually have energy. I eat a low carb, zero grain, zero dairy, zero nut diet and i feel great like that. Basically wild fish and veggies.

 

Anyways, I send my love to you all. Your body and mind can heal so dont ever give up.