Lawe

[Lawe]

Hey there.

 

Anyone else noticed drugs like alcohol and weed lost its glow when ending ssri.

Weed made me very euphoric on paxil(never tried it before meds) but when ending it started going downhill, highs became worse and worse month after month. 

 

The drugs not working isnt my biggest problem right now and nothing i should do when healing but it really scares me to not be able to feel pretty much anything when smoking or drinking. 

 

 

[Shep]

Hi, Lawe.

 

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[Lawe]

Have been experiencing what i guess is windows since spring/summer this year. However i found out and noticed that its caused by something and doesnt just randomly pop up. 

This will sound very strange but the thing that creates the windows or whatever it is are cold exposure(cold baths/showers). 1-2 hours after the exposure many symptoms starts to decline and i feel somewhat normal. The crazy thing is that it stays for approx 5 days then back to usual hell for 5 days and then back again in a window for 5 days and shifts some more weeks like that and then back to permanent dread.

 

The thing is that it doesnt always work and feels like it need some time to reset before i can use it again.

 

The way i feel during those windows is really good. The main symptom i have that disappears during the windows is anhedonia. I can feel stuff , feeling music again, enjoying spending time and talking with people and all that sweet stuff. My restless anxiety dissapears and i can move with ease, feels like i want to go out and move my body(normally my symptoms gets worse from this). Alot more symptoms does also abate from this.

 

I am asking for help if anybody can tell me why i feel this way from the exposure and mabye what other things i might try since the cold is working.

 

The only thing of intrest i found and what could play a role is the vagus nerve, apparently cold exposure is a good way to stimulate the vagus nerve.

I have tried some other ways to stimulat without sucess.

[Lawe]

Would appreciate a title change if possible to something basic.

[ChessieCat]

8 hours ago, Lawe said:

This will sound very strange but the thing that creates the windows or whatever it is are cold exposure(cold baths/showers).

 

Another member recently mentioned that they were going swimming in the ocean and that they felt better afterwards.  Managed to find it:

 

On 11/12/2018 at 11:51 AM, Kristine said:

Interesting you should mention this. I haven’t been tolerating baths (with Mag) or showers very well lately due to burning skin. However, today I finally took the plunge into the Tasmanian ocean (9am). It’s 13.5 degrees Celsius at the moment (think that’s about 56 Degrees F. Cooooold. But oh so soothing for my burning skin. I paddled around for about half an hour. Running on the spot and doing some stretches. I had the beach to myself and my only company was two cormorant birds diving for fish and sunning themseves on the rocks. Beautifully peaceful. The pain in my muscles and skin burning has gone (still the usual muscular flu like pain), mood has lifted and my head feels lighter/clearer (still gone 3 hours post swim), the first time in months I have had some relief...anyway I’m going to force myself to do this everyday as a daily ritual. Must have situmlated my vagus nerve and I’m sure the natural magnesium in the sea water helped as well. 

 

[Lawe]

6 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Another member recently mentioned that they were going swimming in the ocean and that they felt better afterwards.  Managed to find it:

Thanks, this is pretty intresting. I havent been exposed to cold water for a couple of months because i wanted to test some other things to make me feel better.

Would be nice to experience a window during the christmas times to feel some christmas spirit.

[Aquarius]

The vagus nerve is very important in how we feel its to do with the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems its worth a read up on it ...saw a programme recently about a doctor who gave up drugs and was dealing with a lady with depression he told her to go swimming in the sea cold sea 😊 and she said she noticed an improvement in her condition 

[Shep]

Yes, Aquarius is spot on about the vagus nerve. Cold water is listed as a method of stimulating the vagus nerve in this article:

 

How to Stimulate Your Vague Nerve for Better Mental Health

 

And some research on cold exposure for depression: 

 

Adapted cold shower as a potential treatment for depression