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Clove

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Hello everyone, 

this is my first post. I have tried to come off my anti-depressants several times and have always needed to go back to my GP as I crashed and burned, yet again. I now feel that what I was going through were withdrawn symptoms and not a relapse of depression/anxiety. I work in the NHS and have always felt I have been emotionally blackmailed into going back on the tablets, in my case, citalopram. 

So.... I have decided to withdraw from 40mg slowly and steadily. I have had one month on 35mg and am now on 30mg. This is fine for me at the moment. I've paired up with my GP who admitted that as I'd done a lot of reading 'round he was happy to take my lead on this process, so we are working together. 

Don't know what else to say today, but I'm very glad I found you.

Clove

Hi, Clove here,                                                                                                                                   From 1998 to 2016 vague times/periods of taking venlafaxine, prozac, citalopram.

2016 to present: Had been on 30mg citalopram, two attempts to come off, no dates I'm afraid.

Back on 30 mg after each attempt.

August 2017 dose increased to 40 mg.citalpram. 

Began tapering 18th March 2018.

From 40 mg to 35mg, cutting tablet into quarters

35mg for one month.

From 18th April down to 30mg.

That's where I am now.

Hope this is OK

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Hello, Clove, and welcome to SA.  It's good (and empowering) to come to the realization that your symptoms were withdrawal rather than relapse or "return of the underlying condition."

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.
  • Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. 
  • Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) 
  • Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. 
  • Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. 
  • A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. 
  • Link to Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.
At Surviving Antidepressants, it is recommended that a person taper by no more than 10% of their current dose with at least a four week hold in-between decreases.  The 10% taper recommendation is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs.  Some people may have to taper at a more conservative rate as they are sensitive to even the smallest drops.  Your tapering rate is a bit faster than our recommended 10%.  
  
 
 
The following link explains how to make non-standard doses of Citalopran.

 

The slow taper recommended here is designed to minimize withdrawal symptoms.

 

 

 

When we take medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  
 
 
Please be aware that sometime withdrawal symptoms don't appear immediately after a too-fast taper.
 
 
We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

 

 

Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.
 
Many members have found the techniques in these links to be helpful in dealing with withdrawal:
 
 
 
This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community.  I hope you’ll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation.  I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us.


 
 
 
 


 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Jan. 24: 8.5mg

Taper is 88% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hello Clove and welcome to SA.

 

It does sound promising that your doctor is willing to let you take the lead on the tapering process. That's great.

 

2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, 

I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever.

 

2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds.

2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better

 

Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.)

"You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa

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Dear Gridley and SkyBlue,

 

thanks for your welcome. I've written my signature and saved it.

I'm off to read all the info you posted.

Clove x

Hi, Clove here,                                                                                                                                   From 1998 to 2016 vague times/periods of taking venlafaxine, prozac, citalopram.

2016 to present: Had been on 30mg citalopram, two attempts to come off, no dates I'm afraid.

Back on 30 mg after each attempt.

August 2017 dose increased to 40 mg.citalpram. 

Began tapering 18th March 2018.

From 40 mg to 35mg, cutting tablet into quarters

35mg for one month.

From 18th April down to 30mg.

That's where I am now.

Hope this is OK

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On 5/1/2018 at 3:55 AM, Clove said:

Dear Gridley and SkyBlue,

 

thanks for your welcome. I've written my signature and saved it.

I'm off to read all the info you posted.

 

You're welcome. Sounds good! Let us know how you're doing.

 

Your signature looks good--thanks for writing it. 

 

It does look like your most recent decrease was from 35mg to 30, which is about 14%. That makes me wonder if your doctor is going to want you to decrease by 5mg at a time.

We generally recommend people taper at a maximum of 10% per month, which is much, much more slowly than doctors' notions of coming off "slowly." 

 

I know you're reading through the links Gridley posted--I think one of the most important ones for right now is
Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

 

 

 

 

 

2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, 

I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever.

 

2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds.

2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better

 

Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.)

"You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa

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Hi SkyBlue,

arghhh! Miswrote my signature.

What I meant to write is that:

from 18th March to 17th April cut down from 40mg to 37.5

now, from18th April to 17th May will be on 35mg.

Will amend signature asap.

Experimenting with pill cutters and making solutions of the drug.

Off to "taper by 10%"

Clove x

Hi, Clove here,                                                                                                                                   From 1998 to 2016 vague times/periods of taking venlafaxine, prozac, citalopram.

2016 to present: Had been on 30mg citalopram, two attempts to come off, no dates I'm afraid.

Back on 30 mg after each attempt.

August 2017 dose increased to 40 mg.citalpram. 

Began tapering 18th March 2018.

From 40 mg to 35mg, cutting tablet into quarters

35mg for one month.

From 18th April down to 30mg.

That's where I am now.

Hope this is OK

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