LibSocRants Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 Hey, my name is Cameron. It has now been two weeks since I stopped taking olanzapine after a 7 month course of 10 mg, with the last 9 weeks tapering down 2.5mg every three weeks. I'm now off the drugs, and am still experiencing the effects of emotional flatness, complete apathy, reduced creativity, reduced capacity to think, remember, and imagine things, complete loss of libido, and loss of interest in activities formerly enjoyed. I feel like my personality has been absolutely destroyed, and I'm just outraged at the fact that this was done with absolutely no informed consent on my part. It's just hideously immoral and I've been made to feel completely and utterly dead inside. I find myself regularly considering euthanasia because the effects as they currently stand are unbearable and I have no tangible experience that makes me want to live (granted, this would only be something I'd consider taking action on after having given it at least a year of time). Are there any chances that I will recover from this and get my brain function back? I feel like I'm in an extremely bleak situation.
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 20, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Posted May 20, 2018 LibSocRants, Yes, you will recover, but it will take a good bit of time. The brain is remarkably able to repair itself, even after the damage these drugs do. For more information, please Google "Survivingantidepressants.org neuroplasticity" At SA, we recommend tapering at a maximum of 10% of current dose every four weeks. You tapered at a rate much higher than that (25%+ every three weeks) and are now experiencing withdrawal syndrome. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Brain Remodelling What is withdrawal syndrome. Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list. Do you have any Olanzapine left? Reinstatement of a very small dose of the original drug is the only known way to help alleviate withdrawal syndrome. The only other alternative is to try and wait out the symptoms and manage as best you can until your central nervous system returns to homeostasis. Unfortunately no one can give you an exact timeline as to when you will start feeling better and while some do recover relatively easily, for others it can take many months or longer. Please read: About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms. -- at least the first page of the topic Reinstatement isn’t a guarantee of diminished symptoms for everyone, but it’s the best tactic available. We usually suggest a much smaller reinstatement dose than your last dose, in your case perhaps 1mg. This link gives you information on how to make nonstandard doses of Olanzapine: Tips for tapering off olanzapine (Zyprexa) Please let us know if reinstatement is something you might want to consider to try to alleviate your symptoms. If so, you would reinstate, wait to stabilize, which can take several months, then taper off the 1mg using the 10% method. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs.
Madeleine Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 You will recover!!! I was on 10 mg of zyprexa twice in my life and am now off it (now only on Zoloft which I’m tapering slowly. ). And my brain recuperated from the zyprexa. I did taper slower lower than you. When I got down to 2.5 I tapered it by quarters. I cut a 2.5 mg into 4 pieces and cut down a quarter at a time. The advice on this forum is to cut even slower than I did— no more than 10 per cent at a time— and that is a safe way to taper. Do do not give yourself a deadline to heal. You didn’t explain how you ended up on zyprexa. I bet the circumstances that led to it were brewing for some time. Likewise it will see a bit of time to stabilize and feel betterr. You might have to reinsate st a low dose as suggested and then taper at a slower rate. But don’t be pessimistic. Have faith and hope. Things will improve! In fact, if you approach this as a learning experience when you get better you will be stronger and in a better position than you had before this episode started. With th best wishes, m 200 Zoloft; 10 mg Zyprexa; 4 mg valium as of May 2021; Valium taper: July 16: 3.5 valium; July 30: 3 mg (paused valium taper); Aug. 23: 2.5 mg Zyprexa: July 26: 8.75 mg; Aug. 9: 7.5 mg; Aug. 30: 7.1 mg ------- Dec 1, 2016. 10 mg zyprexa for 1.5 month. Started taper mid-Jan. 2017. Cut 1.25 mg every 2 weeks; smaller cuts 2.5 mg down. Stopped at .6 mg. May 7, 2017: zyprexa free. Zoloft: Dec1, 2016, 200 mg. Started taper: Jun12, 2017: 197.5 mg; Jun19,:195 mg; July 2:185mg; July 9,:180 mg; July16,: 175; July 23: 170; July 30: 165; Aug6: 160; Aug13: 155; Aug. 20: 150; Aug.27: 146 mg; Sept3: 145 mg; Sept10:143 mg; Sept17:140 mg....Nov5: 122 mg...Dec3:112.5 mg; Jan14, 2018: 95 mg...Jan28: 90 mg; Feb21:80 mg; Mar11: 75 mg; May2:70 mg; May15: 68 mg; May28: 65 mg; Jun9: 62 mg;Jun25: 60 mg:July22: 55 mg; Aug25: 45 mg. Aug28: 50 mg...Oct 28: 38 mg; Dec.4: 30 mg; Jan8,2019: 25mg; Feb6: 23.5 mg; Apr1:17.5mg; May1:1 mg; May 5: 18; May 18:15mg; June 16:12.5mg; Sept 10:11 mg; Sept.16:10 mg; Oct. 1: 9mg; Nov. 27: 8mg; Dec.5: 7mg; Jan.1,2020, 6 mg; Feb1: 5 mg; May 1: 2.5 mg; Jn 1: 2 mg; Jy 1: 1.5 mg
arwilliams Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 If you are not experiencing extreme insomnia you will likely be fine(ignoring depression and suicidal tendencies). When I attempt to come off of my 2.5 mg of Zyprexa I don't sleep at all for days. My Intro FB Zyprexa 2015-September 2018 1st time I tried to come straight off of 10mg Zyprexa I was hospitalized for insane insomnia. Current - Abilify Maintena & L Theanine(for akathisia)
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