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was prescribed citalopram and lorazapam after a nervous breakdown last july from watching my father pass from aspiration pneumonia caused by advanced dementia.  i needed something.  i've been off the lorazapam for probably 4 months.   i tried to go from 20 mg of the citalopram to 10 to 0 in a couple weeks.  was not good.  so i went from 10 to 5 to 2.5 over the course of 4 months and then  something less than 2.5 if i got dizzy.   i haven't had any at all for 5 weeks now.  glad i found this place.  oh man the crying out of nowhere, the anxiety this morning, almost had a panic attack.   my withdrawal is no where near as bad as some of the folks here i'm reading about, but the neuro emotions i'm reading about and the windows and waves really hit home.  sometimes i can feel really good and want to cry from some perceived lack in my life at the same time.   mostly i feel good now, but when it comes, like others have said, i feel like its always been awful and always will be. i have to stop attaching words to the feeling because i'll find some pitiful story to tell myself because its like something is pulling me to feel sorry for myself.    i asked my psychiatrist about brain changes from the citalopram and he said it would happen.  he also said untreated anxiety and depression will also cause negative brain changes over time.   so, what to do.   i've also been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder level 1 in probably 2016.  yeah, had no idea i didn't recognize facial expressions very well.   i'm really bad at it.   anyway it comes with a good bit of anxiety.  so i do suspension training 6 days a week to help me get rid of anxiety, and i also need adrenalin to really be happy.  i'm at my best when i'm involved with whitewater paddleboarding or onewheeling on a regular basis - something exciting and a bit dangerous.  i also ferment pickles, red cabbage kraut and kimchi for my gut health.  i'm really fighting to keep my brain health and hoping that one day things get back to normal.  in the meantime thank you all. its great reading about everybody here and i'm really thankful to find this place and realize i'm not alone in these withdrawals. 

citalopram 20 mg

13 july '18 - december '19, 1 january '19 tapered to 10 mg, 15 january '19 stopped taking it for 2 weeks, 1 february '19 10 mg, 10 february '19 5mg,

20 february '19 2.5mg, 1 april '19 2.5 every other day, 7 april '19 began only taking a sliver when i got dizzy, 15 april '19 no more citalopram

 

lorazapam .5mg

13 july '19 twice a day, 1 november '18 once a day, 15 november '18 every other day, 1 december '19 no more lorazapam

 

supplements- centrum silver for men, coq10 200 mg/day, full spectrum vitamin d3/k2 3000-4000 mg/day

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Hello, spaz, and welcome to SA.  I'm glad you found your way here.

 

To start, lease add a signature.  Include drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements in the last 12-24 months. Also include supplements. This will help us give you the most accurate advice we can.  Please puts dates and dosages on your Lorazepam and how you tapered it, also the Citalopram.
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Good on you for doing the fermented foods.  They can be great for gut issues.

 

You wrote about brain changes.  The brain has a remarkable ability to heal, known as neuroplasticity.

 

Healing from antidepressants: The power of neuroplasticity video (7.5 minutes)

 

Regarding anxiety, here are some links that many members have found helpful.

 

 
We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system.  Magnesium glycinate is a very good form of magnesium.  

 

 

 

Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.
 
Again, welcome.  Please continue to use this thread to document your taper, to ask questions, and to connect with other members.

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of June 28: 5mg

Taper is 93% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hi @spaz & Welcome to the Group! Hang in there & Stay Strong!  It gets better with time!

2 years Drug History Prior to Tapering:

Between 2011 & 2018 I had approximately 58 dose changes between the 4 main medications I took as well as 14 new medications add & taken away.

Prozac (Fluoxetine):(Aug 2016-Dec 2016: 60MG),(June 2017-Nov 2017: 60MG),(Dec 2017: 80MG),(June 2017-Sept 2 2018: 60MG),(Sept 3 2018-Sept 5 2018: 40MG),(Sept 6 2018-Sept 8 2018: 20MG),(Sept 9 2018: 0MG).

Cymbalta:(Jan 2017-May 2017: 60MG).

Cyclobenzaprine: (Aug 2016: 30MG,(Feb 2017: 30MG).

Diazepam (Valium):(Aug 2016-Sept 15 2016: 30MG),(Sept 16 2016-Oct 2017: 15MG),(Nov 2017-Aug 19 2018: 6MG),(Aug 20 2018: 0MG).

Gabapentin:(Aug 2016-Aug 3 2018: 2400MG),(Aug 4 2018-March 26 2019: 2000MG),(March 27 2019-March 30 2019: 1600MG),(May 1 2019: 2000MG)

Hydrocodone:(Aug 2016-Oct 2016: 10-325/4daily),(Nov 2016-Feb 2017: 10-325/3daily),(March 2017-April 2017: 5-325/4daily),(May 2017-April 2018: 10-325/3daily),(June 2018-Aug 25 2018: 10-325/5daily),(Aug 26 2018-Sept 2 2018: 4.5daily),(Sept 3 2018-Sept 10 2018: 10-325/4daily),(Sept 11 2018-Sept 18 2018: 10-325/3daily),(Sept 19 2018-May 1 2019: 10-325/3.5 daily).

Oxycodone: May 2018: 10-325MG/4daily). 

Please see my Intro for full drug history.

         **Forgive Yourself For Not Knowing What You Didn't Know Before You Knew It!  -Maya Angelou/

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59 minutes ago, laydefish said:

Hi @spaz & Welcome to the Group! Hang in there & Stay Strong!  It gets better with time!

it's so weird.  saturday so much anxiety, sunday crying so much even while mowing , til the afternoon.  then its like the road construction crew finished, cleaned up, removed all the barriers and traffic was flowing like normal.  felt good again.  

citalopram 20 mg

13 july '18 - december '19, 1 january '19 tapered to 10 mg, 15 january '19 stopped taking it for 2 weeks, 1 february '19 10 mg, 10 february '19 5mg,

20 february '19 2.5mg, 1 april '19 2.5 every other day, 7 april '19 began only taking a sliver when i got dizzy, 15 april '19 no more citalopram

 

lorazapam .5mg

13 july '19 twice a day, 1 november '18 once a day, 15 november '18 every other day, 1 december '19 no more lorazapam

 

supplements- centrum silver for men, coq10 200 mg/day, full spectrum vitamin d3/k2 3000-4000 mg/day

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