Erell: struggling with paroxetine

[Erell]

Hello

I am looking for some help. 

I have been under medication since I was 15. I had : 

- Bromazepam 

- Prazepam

- Paroxetine 

I managed To give up on benzodiazepines by following the rules of Heather Ashton. I live without benzodiazepines since june 2017.

 

I tried To give up on 20mg of Paroxetine in 2017 : too fast (in 3 months).

Then I tried a second time in 2018 : 5% every 30 days. But after one month, I went through hell. 

I tried a third time in 2018 : 3% every 21 days, then 20 days, 19,...16 days.

I sas Well during a year,  full of hope!!!

 

But last August the 22th, I went back To 10mg ( I was then at 8.41 mg)

Since I'm in hell.

Now I wonder : can I hope To be better one day ?

 

Have  great day

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

I have to add : as I was really bad this month, I took a lot of things  :

- hypericum (3×300mg / day)

- l-tryptophane 

- B vitamins

But I have now the strange sensation  that my brain is in panic with all these staff...

[Erell]

I Will try To summarise what happened :

- from February 2018 To August 2019, I made decreases of Paroxetine. Started with 20mg, with 3%. In August I was at 8.41 mg.

 

- August 22nd : updosing To 10mg after three days of insomnia and permanent anxiety. 

 

- getting better and better until Septembre 2nd. This day, I couldnt stay at work : too much anxiety and pannic attacks. I did'nt go To work since.

 

- september 4th : updosing To 12mg 

 

- september 5th : back To 10mg 

 

- september 6th : i start hypericum (300mgx 3 / day) and rhodiola (morning and noon)

 

- until September 9th, I have the feeling I'm getting better. But this day I had a complicated night (a lot of anxiety), so I keep only one rhodiola in the morning.

 

- Since, I'm getting worse.

 

- September 11 : i ggive up on rhodiola

 

- September 16th : tried To getback To work. But it is too hard: permanent strong anxiety.

 

- September 21st : new 'cocktail' : hypericum/saffron/lemon balm/ éleutherocoque/ omega3/l-tryptophane/lithium citrate./pronostics

 

- Today : I ddid'nt take the cocktail, I'm toobad,  more than I ever had!!!Since 2018 i also had magnésium and Bvitamins. I stop them too. 

 

Updosing at 15mg of Paroxetine : i wanna try To stabilize with it, and without supplements.

 

Now I am really concerned : I'm in hell and never been in a so violent pain. Did I injured my brain forever? Will I ever find some peace?

I'm so terrified : what if I had definitely damaged my central nervous system with all these supplements? Was my anxiety in August only a wave that I should have tolerated?

 

Oh I'm sorry for this long message! I'm so terrified 24/7 , I can't think properly.

 

Have a good day.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

NHi 

I've been reading this forum all afternoon : and it seems my choices were'nt the bests!

First i have taken a lot of suppléments, and your experiences show that it can be a bad idea...Then I have updosed To 15mg the Paxil since this morning...a big increase 

 

By the way,  I'm 28 and i have taken these pills since i was 15 because of panic attacks when I was in highschool. 

 

Have a great night!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Hello

 

Did I do something wrong to have my messages hidden?

 

If I did, I'm really sorry.

 

Have a good day

[Sassenach]

Hi Erell

 

You have done nothing wrong.

Any new members first two posts are checked before being unhidden.

I am not in a position to do a full introduction to you at the moment.

Please tell me what drugs and supplements you are currently taking and also the doses of each drug or supplement.

For the moment keep taking the same dose of everything

What symptoms are you experiencing at the moment?

Sassenach

[Erell]

Hello

Thank you so much for your answer!!!

 

Since yesterday  : i take 15mg of Paroxetine and nothing else.

 

Can you see my previous messages in which i've explained what happened this month?

 

My symptoms: essentually violent anxiety and terror, with a lot of horrific thoughts, permanently. Never been like this.

I also have shakings in all my body and brain zaps. 

 

Now I'm looking for advices : now that I have given up all my supplements and updosed To 15mg, should I stay like this?

 

I'm so grateful i found this forum! Thank you so much!!!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Erell

Will get back to you later today.

[Erell]

 

Of course you have To sleep!

Thank you for your time!

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

I'm sorry for all these messages but I'm not sure I can handle this hell, in violent panic attack since 4 hours. 

 

Do you know how can I get through this?

 

I try To learn meditation but it seems impossible with this state of anxiety. 

 

I'm really sorry To bother you like this...

 

So sorry!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Erell

 

22 hours ago, Erell said:

I managed To get rid of benzodiazepines. 

When did you do this?

What drugs and doses?

How did you stop them ie taper or cold turkey.

The only supplement we recommend on SA are magnesium and fish oil, please see

king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/

I see you were taking magnesium in your earlier post.

If you have any left you could try this to help with symptoms.

Take only a small dose to begin to ensure it does not make you feel worse.

We need the info above as the Benzos may well be part of the problem, despite the fact that you are now off them.

 

Sassenach

 

[Erell]

Hi

I tappered from Prazepam very slowly  : from 2014 To June 2017, doing slow: 3% drops. Dont remember the dose at first. I was doing well since.

I had Bromazepam first but in 2013 I switched slowly with Prazepam To have a long halflife. 

 

But I have the impression that my symptoms are in relation with Paroxetine  : during benzos taper i made panic attacks. But the symptoms I have Today are different: anxiety all time, depression, a lot of impatience in my body...without a break. I dont know how I even manage To endure this : it really looks like hell.

 

Do you think I can stabilize with my 15mg of Paroxetine? Or is it too late and i Will Always have to live like this ?

 

Thank you so much!

Edited June 6, 2022 by Erell

[Sassenach]

4 minutes ago, Erell said:

Will Always have to live like this ?

No you will not.

You can and will get better.

However it will be slow as it is for all of us, but you will get better.

You are experiencing W/D symptoms.

Please take the magnesium but no other supplements.

 

Do you take Paroxetine AM or PM?

Please see the links below to help understand what is happening to you.

the-windows-and-waves-pattern-of-stabilization/

the-rule-of-3kis-keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable/

are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take/

dr-joseph-glenmullens-withdrawal-symptom-checklist/

I will get back to you regarding your dose around 6PM Europe time.

 

Sassenach

 

 

[Erell]

Oh thank you so much for your helping! 

I take 15mg of Paroxetine at 8am, since yesterday.

 

The more I read this forum the more I understand that I made a mess with all my supplements. And with updosing To 15mg. Now I won't do it again and I'm going To stay at 15mg.

I also read that I have To wait at least 4 days before having enough Paroxetine in my blood, and after I Will have to wait To see if there are improvments. So impatient, its hard!

 

For the moment I would just like To have some moments of peace in my mind and body, even if it was only 1 hour. 

 

Thank you so much for the links : i read  about waves and patterns . I'm starting To write a daily journal To see how my symptoms evolve. 

 

I also read success stories To try To calm down my spirit. I have a lot of intrusive thoughts saying its over for me and I Will always be like this.

I try some tools for permanent High anxiety but i recognize it is really hard in this state. I wanna try to accept, but now it's really hard.

 

I wanna apologize for all this negativity, you don't need it! 

 

If I ever get better, I'm not sure I Will try again To taper : too much suffering! 

 

This forum is so important, thank you all for information and support!!! 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Hello Erell

 

This site is run entirely by volunteer Administrators and Moderators, all have been through or going through withdrawal.

There are no commercial interests or influences  involved .

 

I am sorry you are having such a rough time but you are now in the right place.

 

We usually have to tell people that they tapered too fast but it seem you were unlucky with Paroxetine.

When you hit problems at 8.41mgs it would have been best to hold rather than updose, but we are all here because we believed our doctors and trusted these drugs.

Unfortunately the subsequent dose changes up and down have destabilised your CNS ( central nervous system) further.

As you have seen in the links our CNS likes stability the only way to get to stabilisation is by taking time and being consistent.

 

 

On 12/3/2015 at 4:41 PM, apace41 said:

Basically- you have a building where the MAJOR steel structures are trying to be rebuilt at different times - ALL while people are coming and going in the building and attempting to work.

It would be like if the World Trade Center Towers hadn't completely fallen - but had crumbled inside in different places.. Imagine if you were trying to rebuild the tower - WHILE people were coming and going and trying to work in the building!  You'd have to set up a temporary elevator - but when you needed to fix part of that area, you'd have to tear down that elevator and set up a temporary elevator somewhere else. And so on. You'd have to build, work around, then tear down, then build again, then work around, then build... ALL while people are coming and going, ALL while the furniture is being replaced, ALL while the walls are getting repainted... ALL while life is going on INSIDE the building. No doubt it would be chaotic. That is EXACTLY what is happening with windows and waves.  The windows are where the body has "got it right" for a day or so - but then the building shifts and the brain works on something else - and it's chaos again while another temporary pathway is set up to reroute function until repairs are made.  

 

http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/music/FirstAidPanicF.mp3

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/AnxietySelfHelp.pdf

non-drug-techniques-to-cope-with-emotional-symptoms/

the-dr-claire-weekes-method-of-recovering-from-a-sensitized-nervous-system/

http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/SelfHelpCourse.pdf

 

It is good that you are keeping a diary.

If you could post it on your thread every day in the following format it would help us to monitor you through your recovery.

 

DATE:

 

6 a.m. Woke with anxiety
8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
10 a.m. Stomach is upset
10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast
11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour
12:35 p.m. Ate lunch
4 p.m. Feel a bit better
5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
6 p.m. Ate dinner
9:20 p.m. Headache
10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel
10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy
10:30 p.m. Fell asleep
2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien")
2:45 a.m. Fell asleep
4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep

 

I know we are asking you to do a lot when you are feeling bad but there is one more thing.

I would like you complete your drug signature by clicking on the link below

Please add a signature.  Include drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements in the last 12-24 months. Also include supplements. This will help us give you the most accurate advice we can. 

• Any drugs and supplements prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. 
• Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) 
• Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. 
• Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. 
• A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. 
• This is a direct link to your signature:  Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

I understand that you have given the info in you posts above but this will appear below every post you make, and allow the Mods to see your history at a glance.

If you have difficulty just inform me and I will  help.

Please include the benzo info.

I would like to ask our benzo specialist whether they may have had an impact on your Paroxetine taper.

On 9/24/2019 at 2:20 PM, Sassenach said:

Please take the magnesium but no other supplements.

Did you do this?

 

On 9/24/2019 at 2:51 PM, Erell said:

I wanna apologize for all this negativity, you don't need it! 

Do not apologise you did not do this to yourself, however a positive attitude helps in W/D ( withdrawal ).

You are obviously an intelligent woman so by reading and talking to other members on site, you will realise this does not have to be permanent

It will however be slow.

 

Is your sleep good?

Why were you originally put on meds?

 

A lot to absorb so take your time and please answer the questions.

 

Finally your current dose.

I am concerned that having checked all the info you have provided during the day that 15mgs may be too high.

It is very close to your original 20mg dose which you tapered to 8.41mgs.

It is better to start at a lower dose and increase slowly if necessary than to risk kindling.

I would suggest you take 10mgs from tomorrow and remain at that dose.

We can monitor your diary to follow how you respond.

It is another change of dose which is undesirable but will be ok after only a couple of days.

 

Always remember our brain has an incredible ability to heal but only slowly.

I understand right now it seems never ending but you are young and have a long life ahead of you.

 

Sassenach

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Hi Sassenach,

 

I'm so grateful, thank you for your precious presence!

 

1. I don't know if I have been unlucky with Paroxetine. Now that I have read a lot on this forum, I realise that 3% every 15 days was too short.

2. About diary : I find it really hard : one minute I have a little hope, the minute later my anxiety gets extremely High.. I don't know how To globalize. But I'm going To try. 

3. I made my signature.

4. I don't have magnesium anymore and did'nt manage To go in a shop, too much anxiety. I Will try again tomorrow. Saw that citrate of magnésium was Ok?

5. Strangely, I sleep between 6-7h every night...so happy! I saw on the forum that insomnia was a very common symptom!

6. I was originally put on meds because of panic attacks in highschool. 

 

7. Ouch: i am so worried about moving again my dose! What do you mean by "Will be ok after à couple of days" ? You really think I can calm down at 10mg after a few days?

Oh I understand why you think that 15mg may be too High, but I'm so terrified by the idea To put my brain in worse pain! I'm going To think about it tonight....

 

Again, thank youfor your kindness and your patience!!!

 

Hope you had a great day!!!

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Last, then I Will stop !

- I already updosed To 10mg on August 22nd...should I have waited longer?

- If I stay at 15mg, what is the risk? Have I a chance of feeling better next few weeks?

 

I am aware you can't guarantee anything;) But I'm trying To understand Well what are m'y options

 

Have à great night!

[Sassenach]

17 minutes ago, Erell said:

Last, then I Will stop !

Like your sense of humour but not a good idea

17 minutes ago, Erell said:

I already updosed To 10mg on August 22nd...should I have waited longer?

Yes you should have waited, but it is history, forget about it and concentrate on now.

 

17 minutes ago, Erell said:

If I stay at 15mg, what is the risk? Have I a chance of feeling better next few weeks?

The risk with the higher dose is Kindling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindling_(sedative–hypnotic_withdrawal)

We are all different so it is impossible to predict a time frame.

The ethos of this site is harm reduction so we always advise what we believe to be the safest course.

The choice is however yours.

We all want to be proactive and do something to help.

Unfortunately only slow and steady has been proven to work.

 

Sassenach

[Erell]

Ok Sassenach, I Will go back To 10mg tomorrow morning. Understood the choice is mine. I wanna make it in the right way now, so I Will follow your advice. 

 

I'm not sure To understand what is kindling, even with the wikilink, I'm going To search.

 

Thank you!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

You are welcome.

Sleep well

 

Good night

[Erell]

If anybody would like To clear this for me (so I won't ask too much To Sassenach) : 

 

Kindling is about post WD right? 

Kindling is when your brain is High sensitive after several WD?

So, Sassenach advice me To take 10mg tomorrow rather than 15 To prevent a too hard WD or post WD?

 

Sorry I know I'm a little annoying, but after making so much mistakes I wanna make sure I understand everything !

 

To all, have a great night!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Hello

I'm so afraid..yesterday I felt better from 8pm To midnight : less anxiety, hope,...

So i wonder : isn't it a sign I should stay at 15mg?

 

I'm terrified with the idea of injuring my brain forever by coming back To 10mg...

 

I know its my decision...so scared. 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Hi Erell

I am glad you are feeling a little better this morning.

It is more dangerous to updose to a high dose than to up dose to a low dose and up dose again if necessary.

The fact that you have been on these doses before is now irrelevant because your brain is in a very different situation now.

The safe option is 10 mg.

Sassenach

 

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by Sassenach

[Erell]

Hello Sass!

Not feeling better this morning, but yesterday night.

I just spent last 2hours in a very bad mood : my head was like "I keep on 15mg" "i take 10mg" "no i keep on 15"...

I'm going To take 10 mg. Fingers crossed !

Thank you for being so patient with me! I'm having really hard times, but hope i Will be able To pay you back soon!!

[Sassenach]

The only pay back we require is for you to feel better.

You are making the right decision any other choice is not a safe even if this takes a little longer.

[Erell]

You are so generous! Hope you manage To take care of you while taking care of us! 

 

Tuesday 24th September :

 

6.45 am : woke up anxious

8 am: took 15mg of Paroxetine 

A lot of nausea, managed To eat a half banana

All morning : violent anxiety, think I Will never get through this, head and legs burn,  want To cry but can't, internal shakes, brain zaps.

12 To 1.30 pm :  lot of nausea, eat some Rice.

1.30 pm To 8 pm : so hard times : violent panic attacks, suicidal thoughts, body burn, akathasia.

Managed To eat a banana.

8 pm To midnight : i Feel better, anxiety decreases, even smiling and able To hope for better days! Then I slept. 

5.50 am : woke up anxious 

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Ouch Paroxetine is such a poison! Never Feel that worse in my life. Can't stop thinking about my Young age and how ruined is m'y life.

I don't find a way To explain my situation To my family or friends, they don't understand. I'm angry even jealous of all people who are not in our situation. 

 

I do know that a positive mind would help, but I really don't how To be positive. I try meditation, relaxation, thinking positive but my level of depression and anxiety is too High.

 

I am so sorry for all this negativity, I don't know who else I can tell. So scared.

I wanna tell my deep admiration To all of you for living with these awfull symptoms!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

brassmonkey-talking-about-myself/?do=findComment&comment=244038

 

This will help you understand.

 

If you cannot get out, either ask your mum and dad to get it for you or order online.

 

Sass

 

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by Sassenach

[Erell]

Hello Sass

Yes I'm going To order magnesium online. 

I'm really sorry for my posts, sometimes depression and anxiety are so violent that I need To express it, even if I know nobody can do anything about it.

 

I read the link you gave me. I understand that Wd Will be a very long process, and that is not a problem To me. I prefer slow than speed. But actually I'm not concerned about tappering, I don't even know if I Will ever again.

What scares me actually is my current state, the High level of anxiety 24/7, tremors and dépression, ...Feel like eternity. Don't know how I can go through this.

 

 

Lot of anger as you can see! Really not proud of it, especially because I never was a angry person. 

 

I'm reading a lot the topic about tools for dealing with extreme emotions, but I find it really hard these days.

I  understand that it may be long to Feel better. Don't know how To accept m'y symptoms. Days are so long. 

 

I have To work on my acceptance and be inspired by all of you. You are all the strongest people I ever met!!!😍

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Hi Erell

 

Glad to see you are investigating the site and joining in.

Other members can be a great source of comfort and help.

On 9/25/2019 at 1:21 PM, Erell said:

'm really sorry for my posts, sometimes dépression and anxiety are so violent that I need To express it, even if I know nobody can do anything about it.

Stop saying you are sorry, you did not do this to yourself and we all need vent/express at times.

The difference is we understand and it is necessary sometimes.

If we hold it in we feel worse.

On 9/25/2019 at 1:21 PM, Erell said:

Don't know how To accept m'y symptoms. Days are so long

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety.  The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.  I hope you give it a try.

 

Congratulations, you did a great job on your drug signature, and diary entries, keep them coming.

 

OK questions.

How well did you sleep last night?

How did you feel first thing this morning?

How do you feel now?

 

Sass

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Sassenach]

Just seen your posts to Boris, you will be fine.😎

[Erell]

Hi Sassenach!

 

 

1. Thank you for your paragraph about acceptance  : it Will be the hardest work for me but I Will surely try! I'm also concerned because friends and family don't understand and I'm terrified by the idea of Being isolated for the rest of m'y life! Also have to work on this...

 

2. I slept Well last night : woke  up anxious after 6 hours of sleep, but can't complain while so many struggle with insomnia!

 

3. First thing this morning : oh no, I'm still in hell...plus the anxiety of the 10mg story!

 

4. I had a really bad morning, full of anxiety, despair and akathisia. But since 4pm I'm feeling better ! Not good but better : I'm able To hope, anxiety is lower, and no more akathisia. I'm able To smile and be patient! 

 

5. I succeed To take a short walk on my neighborhood (yeah!!!) But not To go in a shop.

I should receive magnesium citrate tomorrow!

 

Thanks for your support, it is invaluable! I mean it seriously : having found this website is a light in my  nightmare!

 

Hope you're doing ok!!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Rhiannon]

You are in a very challenging moment right now, a difficult stage. Your CNS has been stirred up by the various changes it has been through, and you are not stable right now. When one is suffering so much, you want to do anything to relieve it. I know, I have been there, many times.

 

This is the time when it is easy to make mistakes by adding in other drugs, or updosing too much. Unfortunately there is no medicine or other magic fast remedy for this stage of withdrawal. 

 

I know it must be difficult to believe, but right now the best thing you can do is stay on that 10 mg and just hold, hold, hold. Try all of the many non drug techniques and remedies that are listed throughout this forum, do everything you can. Sassenach is very knowledgeable, all the moderators here are excellent.

 

I think you will actually settle down well now that you are off the supplements and if you stay on just the same dose of 10 mg for a while. It may take many months, but you will get there eventually. And then you can take a look at starting a very slow taper.

 

With your history with the benzos, I know you are finished with that taper and you are off them (congratulations!) but, as you may have heard, benzos do not let go of us easily. None of these meds let go of us easily. So you are extra sensitive now because of that past history, and you may always find that you need to be extra gentle with your tapers, and be a little extra gentle with your nervous system in every way. The very good news is that you are still young and your brain and body are going to be brilliant at healing if you will give them the chance. One day this will all be a distant memory.

 

But the bad news is that you must summon patience right now, and that is the hardest thing to do, I understand. I find that very difficult myself.

 

You are in a good place for support and resources and it sounds like you are really working hard to improve your situation. You will do fine. Dive in to the "non drug methods of coping" sections and just take it one day at a time, or one half day at a time, or one hour at a time, whatever you can manage. The time WILL pass and you WILL improve.

 

Best wishes to you!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

Oh Rhiannon! Such a wonderful message you wrote here! I'm so grateful i found this forum! Your support make me stronger!

 

Contrarily To this morning, I Feel calm about the 10mg. I know I put my brain into a lot with all these supplements!!! I regret, but now I wanna focus on patient healing.

 

Have a great evening !

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

On 9/25/2019 at 7:48 PM, Sassenach said:

 

Another thing for you to investigate, morning cortisol spikes.

If you want me to explain I will do so, but you are learning so much in one day I am certain you can investigate yourself

 

Yes I read the topic : tonight I Will close curtains To be in obscurity!

I have To read it again To be sure I understand every parts!

 

Have a great evening Sass!!!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell

[brassmonkey]

Hi Erell-- Welcome to SA.  I'm sorry to hear that you're having such trouble at the minute.  The others have given some very good information and advise so I won't add much to it.

 

Anxiety and anger are two of the more prominent side effects of being on paxil. They will come and go as they please and be very bothersome.  The trick is to learn to see them coming, for me there usually was a several day build up that I was able to identify.  When I felt it starting to happen I understood that there was going to be problems for a few weeks and I needed to watch myself.  The anxiety is chemical based, caused by the drug, and generally comes in waves that last several weeks 24/7 and then resolve over several days.  There isn't much that can be done, AAF is one way of handling it, also lots  of acceptance.  Mainly it just needs to be put up with and lived around until it settles down.

 

Anger is one that really needs to be paid attention to because a person can get themselves into a lot of trouble if they are not careful. I've written several things about anger management, but I can't lay my hands on them right now.  I think they are posted in intro thread "Brassmonkey talking about myself" Gridley gave a link above.  Again the key is to watch for the build up and triggers and then try to disarm the situation before it can get out of hand.  It may seem rude, but turning and walking away can be a good strategy.  Both the anxiety and anger take a bit or practice to "master", but it is time well spent.

 

Brassmonkey

Edited December 20, 2020 by Erell
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