rola Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 hello in deroxat withdrawal 1O mg I am currently at 1.58 mg I had to go up my dose because too many adverse effects I made a reduction of 3% over 1 month I just discovered your site i would like to know how to use The basic Brassmonkey Slide Method I'm French I do not understand English I use the translator Thanks for your help Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 9, 2019 Welcome to SA, rola. I have some questions, please. 1. Are you tapering every month at a rate of 3% of current dose (right now your current dose is 1.58mg) or 3% every month of your original dose of 10mg? We recommend tapering no more than 10% of CURRENT DOSE every four weeks. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/ 2. You said you had go up in your dose because of adverse effects. Adverse effects are an immediate very bad reaction to a drug. Is that what you experienced? In this situation, you would want to decrease, not increase, the dose. 3. I think you are talking about withdrawal symptoms, which occur when you taper the drug too quickly. What are your symptoms? What is withdrawal syndrome. 4. Are you tapering using liquid or weighing tablets? 5. When did you increase the dose to 1.58mg and from what dose? Here is our link on tapering derogate (Paxil): Tips for tapering off Paxil (paroxetine) Here is information on the Brassmonkey slide taper: The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering This is your Introduction topic, where you can answer my questions, ask your own questions nd connect with other members. I'm glad you found your way here. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
rola Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 hello gridley Hello, thank you for your reply I use deroxat syrup 20mg for 10 ml I reduce my starting dose by 3% every month so I always put 1.5 ml of deroxat in 25 ml of water and I make a reduction of 3% every month Step 21 0.82 ml x 3.00% = 0.02 ml 0.82 - 0.02 = 0.79 ml Titration (calculations): For one ml, we have 1.50 /25.00 ml = 0.06000 We keep: 0.79 / 0.06000 = 13.19 We remove: 25.00 - 13.19 = 11.81 Titration: 11.81 ml to remove. There remains: 13.19 ml to drink. Tier 22 0.79 ml x 3.00% = 0.02 ml 0.79 - 0.02 = 0.77 ml Titration (calculations): For one ml, we have 1.50 /25.00 ml = 0.06000 We keep: 0.77 / 0.06000 = 12.79 We remove: 25.00 - 12.79 = 12.21 Titration: 12.21 ml to remove. There remains: 12.79 ml to drink. Bearing 23 0.77 ml x 3.00% = 0.02 ml 0.77 - 0.02 = 0.74 ml Titration (calculations): For one ml, we have 1.50 /25.00 ml = 0.06000 We keep: 0.74 / 0.06000 = 12.41 We remove: 25.00 - 12.41 = 12.59 Titration: 12.59 ml to remove. There remains: 12.41 ml to drink. Step 24 0.74 ml x 3.00% = 0.02 ml 0.74 - 0.02 = 0.72 ml Titration (calculations): For one ml, we have 1.50 /25.00 ml = 0.06000 We keep: 0.72 / 0.06000 = 12.04 We remove: 25.00 - 12.04 = 12.96 Titration: 12.96 ml to remove. There remains: 12.04 ml to drink. Step 25 0.72 ml x 3.00% = 0.02 ml 0.72 - 0.02 = 0.70 ml Titration (calculations): For one ml, we have 1.50 /25.00 ml = 0.06000 We keep: 0.70 / 0.06000 = 11.67 We remove: 25.00 - 11.67 = 13.33 Titration: 13.33 ml to remove. It remains: 11.67 ml to drink. I arrived at Step 25 in September, I went back to Step 23 on September 27 because too much anxiety attack I can not drive anymore the anxiety always present I am increased to step 21 why should not we increase? i would like to know if i should not reduce the percentage and if I have to always put 1.5 ml in 25 ml of water I do not take any supplements I wish you a good day see you soon Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 10, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 10, 2019 Hello, rola. I'll ask @brassmonkey to check your calculations. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
rola Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 hello altostrata thanks for you reply 😀 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2019 Hi Rola-- your calculations look fine. Yes you should continue to use 1.5mL in 25mL of water, we need to keep things as consistent as possible. I don't think you need to lower the percentage, but rather lengthen the time between reductions. I think every 6 weeks would work better. Tell me about the anxiety attacks. When did they start? How intense are they? How long do they last? As we reduce the dose that we are taking our bodies get use to working with that amount and become sensitive to the drug. If we increase the drug a lot the body doesn't know how to handle it and reacts badly. A very small increase can sometimes relieve intense symptoms, but a large increase is more likely to cause even worse symptoms. It then takes a very long time to restabilize before we can start to reduce again. If you have increased back to step 21 then you will need to hold at this level for several months to let your body stabilize and your symptoms settle down before you can start to taper again. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 hi brasmonkey first of all thank you for your advice so my panic attacks started I think when I changed level (25) to 1.4 mg deroxat at least September these attackers manifest themselves when I drive exclusively heart that accelerate, trouble of sight, and I am obliged to stop what I can. I do not dare take the car for fear of another crisis of anxiety it lasts all the time I roll, I try to breathe and it stops when I get home so I went to the pharmacy to buy magnesium associated with rhodolia it's called magnesium dstress a day I do not support it I was like an electric battery I hope not to be too much because I am since yesterday at 1.58 mg level 21 also I thought that we should not stay more than 30 days on the same level I'll listen to you and stabilize myself with this dose and see what it gives I just want to drive after other symptoms I usually live with here and good day i hope that the translator does his job well and that you understand how i would like to speak english but it is not difficult i just have notions do you think that with the deroxat we can do a percentage of 2.5% Thank you and good day Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 because I am at 3% in one month la méthode de base Brassmonkey Slide consiste en quatre (4) réductions hebdomadaires de 2,5% consécutives avec une période supplémentaire de deux (2) semaines. Cela donne une réduction totale de 10% sur six (6) semaines. Bien que ce ne soit pas le plan de réduction standard, il est très proche. La suspension de deux (2) semaines supplémentaires est très nécessaire pour laisser les effets cumulatifs des quatre (4) réductions s'installer et les choses revenir à leur niveau de base avant de tenter la réduction suivante. Ainsi, le calendrier de réduction ressemble à ceci: Semaine 1 réduire 2,5% Semaine 2 réduire un supplément de 2,5% (pour un total de 5%) Semaine 3 réduire un supplément de 2,5% (pour un total de 7,5%) Semaine 4 réduire un supplément de 2,5% (pour un total de 10%) Semaines 5,6 Tenir au dernier niveau de réduction thanks 😉 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Hello the previous message is not passed apparently I said that I did not understand the method above thanks Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2019 Hi Rola-- Your english is quite understandable, so there are no problems there. Also the translation of the Brassmonkey Slide Method into French is quite good, I could understand it even with my limited grasp pf the language. The Brassmonkey Slide Method is designed to provide a large reduction in medication as quickly as possible while keeping the symptoms associated with the reduction to a minimum. It has been found that a reduction of 10% of the previous dose is about the biggest reduction a person can make without causing major symptoms. There will be some, but they are a lot worse if a person does a bigger reduction. We have also found that the fastest a persons brain can accept that reduction is four (4) weeks. If you go faster then the symptoms build up and cause a major outbreak of severe symptoms that can take a very long time to resolve. That is why the recommended taper that SA provides is 10% every four (4) weeks. The big drawback is that reducing 10% all at once causes a very large shock of symptoms a few days later. The idea behind the Brassmonkey Slide Method is to spread that shock out over several weeks by doing four (4) smaller reductions on successive weeks until the desired amount has been decreased. The 10% reduction is divided into four (4) parts and a new part is added each week. So you start by reducing 2.5% the first week, 5% the second, 7.5% the third and finally 10% on the fourth week. Because the symptoms don't fully resolve two (2) more weeks are added at the 10% level to let that happen. It doesn't have to be a 10% reduction, any percentage can be used. It just shouldn't be larger than 10%. It is quite common for people to use a total reduction of 5%, or even as small as 1%. It depends on how comfortable people are with the resulting symptoms. However, decreasing the percentage will increase the time it takes to completely get off of the drug. So a 5% reduction will take twice as long as a 10% reduction and a 2.5% reduction will take four (4) times as long. For a time reference the standard 10% Brassmonkey Slide Method has a half life of nine (9) months. This means that if you are currently taking 10mgai for your dose, in nine (9) months you will be taking 5mgai and in a year and a half (18 months) you would be taking 2.5mgai and so on. I hope that helps you understand. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Hi yes i have almost understood I would like to try this method which seems good to me but I am currently 1.58mg of deroxat so 0.79ML knowing that I always put 1.5 ml every month in 25 ml and a percentage of 3%. i would like to try to do your method when i would stabilize because i still have anxieties i will stay at 1.58 mg for 6 weeks as you advised me; but the problem is that I entered the data in the software and as I do not understand English it is difficult to use it is it possible to make me a plan when I would have finished the 6 weeks and if I'm fine if you do not mind thank you very much in all the cases of the time that you granted us see you soon 😉 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 13:40, Altostrata said: Bonjour rola Je demanderai à @brassmonkey de vérifier vos calculs. thanks j hope you're fine Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Hi yes i have almost understood I would like to try this method which seems good to me but I am currently 1.58mg of deroxat so 0.79ML knowing that I always put 1.5 ml every month in 25 ml and a percentage of 3%. i would like to try to do your method when i would stabilize because i still have anxieties i will stay at 1.58 mg for 6 weeks as you advised me; but the problem is that I entered the data in the software and as I do not understand English it is difficult to use it is it possible to make me a plan when I would have finished the 6 weeks and if I'm fine if you do not mind thank you very much in all the cases of the time that you granted us see you soon 😉 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted October 13, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2019 Coucou Rola! Si j'ai bien compris, Ton anxiété est surtout liée à l'extérieur et au fait de prendre la voiture. Je t'invite à faire un tour sur le site déploietesailes : c'est un forum en Français qui propose des outils pour l'agoraphobie. Les conseils ne sont pas forcément faciles à mettre en oeuvre quand on vit des symptômes de sevrage, mais je les trouve intéressants. Bonne journée! ("Hi Rola If I understood Well, you Feel anxiety mostly when you go outside or try To drive your car. I invite you To take a look at the website déploietesailes, it is in French. You will find on it a lot of tools To deal with agoraphobia. They are not always easy To practice while you suffer from WD symptoms, but I think they are interesting. Have a good day! ) 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
rola Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Erell said: Coucou Rola! Si j'ai bien compris, Ton anxiété est surtout liée à l'extérieur et à prendre la voiture. Je m'invite à faire un tour sur le site déploietesailes: c'est un forum en anglais qui propose des outils pour l'agoraphobie. Les conseils ne sont pas forcément faciles à mettre en oeuvre quand on parle de symptômes de sevrage, mais que je trouve intéressants. Bonne journée! ("Bonjour Rola Si j'ai bien compris, vous ressentez de l'anxiété surtout lorsque vous sortez ou essayez de conduire votre voiture. Je vous invite à consulter le site Web déploietesailes, il est en français. Vous y trouverez beaucoup d'outils pour faire face à l'agoraphobie. Ils ne sont pas toujours faciles à pratiquer lorsque vous souffrez de symptômes de la MW, mais je pense qu’ils sont intéressants. Bonne journée! ) salut erell je connaissais ce site et merci j essaye de vaincre mes peurs merci pour ton aide malgré ton état ,on va s 'en sortir je crois qu 'on a été trop vite je t embrasse passe une belle journée 😘 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 @Altostrata Hello, today it's been 6 days since I reassembled my dose I feel like an electric battery as if I had given a new treatment to my body I usually do naps for 2 hours and the nothing is not tired impossible to make my brain is boiling is this a good sign? thanks Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 14, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 14, 2019 What time of day do you take your drugs, what dosages? How do you feel shortly afterward? Did you increase the dosage of something? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
rola Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Altostrata said: À quelle heure prenez-vous vos médicaments, quelles doses? Comment vous sentez-vous peu de temps après? Avez-vous augmenté le dosage de quelque chose? Hello altostrata ihope you are well😊 I take deroxat 1.58mg in the morning around 8am see 9H I feel as if I have taken something I do not know how to explain it I was at 1.48mg and I reassembled the dose at 1,58mg cf my signature because a lot d anxiety and impossibility of driving (fear) thank you Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 @Altostrata@brassmonkey Hello Nobody to answer me thank you Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 15, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 15, 2019 Neither of us is much of a superhuman, we're not watching this site 24 hours a day. Do you feel better or worse since you've increased Deroxat dosage? Please try to explain how you feel different after you take it each morning. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
rola Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hello thank you for your reply I suspect you do not monitor the site especially since there is jet lag sorry since I took over I'm going a little better but I feel like an electric battery as if I had given a new treatment to my body thanks Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 @ Hello , I would like to know what I can take to appease anxiety. I managed to drive even take the road before yesterday but today it's impossible to worry again I started fish oil Wednesday thank you Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted October 18, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hello Rola Here are the instructions for the Brassmonkey Microtaper. Ici les instructions pour Brassmonkey mini taper. Cet outil construit la méthode de microtape de diapositive par Brassmonkey, disponible sur https://www.survivingantidepressants.org. Il diminue les valeurs d'un pourcentage défini chaque semaine pendant 4 semaines, suivies d'une période de maintien configurable. Le montant réduit diminue progressivement avec le temps, un peu comme les intérêts composés en sens inverse.Instructions:1. Entrez votre dose de départ en mg2. Entrez le pourcentage de diminution par semaine3. Entrez le nombre de semaines à tenir à la fin du cycle de 4 semaines.4. Cliquez sur le calendrier de construction http://www.taperoff.co/ Si vous avez encore problemes, dites moi. Your symptoms are normal W/D and it is only a week since you updosed. I suggest you hold your dose for the moment. Unfortunately all the symptoms you mention are normal in withdrawal. If you do not begin to feel better in the next few days contact us again. Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
rola Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 @ Sassenach hi sass thank you for your response and your involvement it's been 11 days since I increased the dose and it is true that there are ups and downs like today bad head and heart that beats fast I can not rest myself who used to take naps I will wait a few more days Good evening 😊 ps / I hope it is clear because the translator is not obvious Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2019 This sort of anxiety is a neuroemotion that is directly caused by the bodies reaction to the medication and adjusting to the changes in dose. The only things we suggest taking are the fish oil and magnesium. The anxiety comes in waves the can last several weeks and then subside. I tried a lot of things and nothing really helped except for ignoring it and getting on with life as best as I could. The anxiety isn't going to harm you, it will just be very uncomfortable until it resolves. AAF is one of the best techniques for handling it. Do a site search for AAF, there is a lot of talk about it. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: Ce type d'anxiété est une neuroémotion directement provoquée par la réaction du corps au médicament et par l'adaptation aux changements de dose. Les seules choses que nous suggérons de prendre sont l'huile de poisson et le magnésium. L'anxiété arrive par vagues et peut durer plusieurs semaines, puis s'atténuer. J'ai essayé beaucoup de choses et rien ne m'a vraiment aidé sauf de l'ignorer et de continuer à vivre de mon mieux. L’anxiété ne vous fera pas de mal, elle sera très inconfortable jusqu’à ce qu’elle se résolve. AAF est l'une des meilleures techniques pour le manipuler. Faites une recherche sur le site AAF, on en parle beaucoup. @brassmonkey thank you for your advice when I read your signature you also wean yourself off the deroxat is it you're not taking anything anymore? good night Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2019 As of last Wednesday I haven't taken anything for two and a half years. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 @brassmonkey Hi I am very happy for you and you give me hope I would have liked to read your story I think I take it wrong because I can not find Thank you again for your support have a good day😊 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2019 Unfortunately the first 85 pages were lost when PaxilProgress.org shut down many years ago. Those covered thr first several years of my taper. Once I moved here to SA you can find my story starting here https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/3458-☼-brassmonkey-talking-about-myself/ and continuing here https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17647-tao-of-the-brassmonkey/ I've heard tell that some people have made it through reading the entire thing best of luck. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: Malheureusement, les 85 premières pages ont été perdues lorsque PaxilProgress.org a été fermé il y a de nombreuses années. Celles-ci ont été couvertes pendant plusieurs années de ma vie. Une fois que j'ai déménagé ici en Afrique du Sud, vous pouvez trouver mon histoire en commençant ici https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/3458--brassmonkey-talking-about-myself/ et continue ici https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17647-tao-of-the-brassmonkey/ J'ai entendu dire que certaines personnes ont réussi à lire en lisant tout le texte avec la meilleure des chances. @brassmonkey thanks ,😏 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
mustafa Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 hi @rola, i viewed your topic a lot of times trying to help you but i dont know a lot of techniques to cope with panic attacks. i was happy when i found erell recommend a website for you. do you find yourself well now?, waiting for your reply. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Vegalia Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Salut @rola Do you know Geert méthod? https://www.sansangoisse.com/ Another site and other méthod https://guerir-l-angoisse-et-la-depression.fr/crise-dangoisse-les-4-erreurs-a-eviter-pour-vous-en-debarrasser-pour-de-bon/ All is not free but you can maybe find advices. Bon courage. Bises Vega 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 hours ago, mustafa said: salut @rola , j'ai souvent consulté votre sujet pour essayer de vous aider, mais je ne connais pas beaucoup de techniques pour faire face aux attaques de panique. J'étais heureux quand j'ai trouvé Erell vous recommander un site Web. vous trouvez-vous bien maintenant?, en attente de votre réponse. @mustafa hello mustafa i hope you're ok thank you for being here i'm trying to think of something else when i'm anxious yes people here are really great they help us despite their pain I wish you a nice day @vegalia merci bcp pour ces sites je vais aller voir bon journée Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
rola Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 @brassmonkey Hi I hope you are fine i have read your course it is really extraordinary and gives us even more motivation to succeed is it a personal choice to cut the tablets and not take a liquid solution apparently the liquid solution would give more undesirable effect and just one last question when you were not able to stay more than 6 weeks? and you ended with what percentage 10 or 2.5 sorry but the translator is struggling or can be me Have a nice day 😉 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi Rola-- It was a personal choice to cut up the tablets instead of using a liquid. I was working with another forum at the time and they had very limited information of making your own liquid and I am very comfortable with weighing and measuring so I went that way. I stayed with the 6 week schedule for the entire taper, except for when I reached 10mgai. I thought that this wold be a good time to do an extra hold and stayed at that level for 12 weeks. My thinking was to let any background symptoms catch up and resolve before continuing to decrease. At the very end of the taper I was doing a lot of foreign travel so things were a bit hectic for scheduling but each reduction was held for at least 6 weeks, but some were a little longer. I ended up with a reduction of 10% each time. But to get there I did 4 reductions of 2.5% on successive weeks. So week 1 I would reduce 2.5%. Week 2 I would reduce an additional 2.5% or 5% total. Week 3 I would reduce another 2.5% for 7.5% total and then finally for the last three weeks I would reduce by an additional 2.5% making a total of 10%. Lets see what the translator does to that. 😊 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
rola Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 @brassmonkey hi tom if i can afford😉 I hope you are well and thank you for the time and your energy that you give us the translator worked well 😂I would not hesitate to go back to your profile I am at day 16 1.58 mg I am still not well tachycardia, headache, dizziness and impossible to rest me who used to do naps for 2 hours, sleep was never a problem for me and luckily I think I have increased too much I should have gone from level 25 to level 22 I do not know what you think? or I still have to stabilize? I thought that after 7 days I would be stable but I dream I know Thank you and good day Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
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