Martha Posted February 20, 2020 Posted February 20, 2020 I have been taking lexapro 10 mg for about 5 yrs. i will be discussing a 5% and 10% taper with my doc. Do you have a taper schedule I can show her?
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted February 20, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Posted February 20, 2020 Welcome to SA, Martha. We recommend tapering by no more than 10% of current dose every four weeks. A 5% reduction is also fine. This link describes the 10% taper and is also applicable to a 5% taper. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? We don't have a tapering schedule per se. The excerpt below shows the first three dose reductions from 10mg using a 10% taper rate: ---------If you have been tapering, you calculate the 10% on your last dosage. The amount of the decrease keeps getting smaller for the duration of your taper.- If you started at 10mg, the first reduction would be 10% of 10mg, or 1mg, for a reduced dose of 9mg.- Your second reduction would be 10% of 9mg, or .9mg, for a reduced dose of 8.1mg.- Your third reduction would be 10% of 8.1mg, or .81mg, for a reduced dose of 7.29mg.And so on.This ensures that your nervous system is eased down a gentle 10% slope at every step of the process. It's important that drops become smaller, not larger, as you go. Once you find the rate at which you can comfortably taper, you don't want to jolt your nervous system with a larger drop than it can handle.Mathematics whizzes may recognize that the 10% reduction formula is a geometric progression (asymptote) approaching but never equaling zero. At a very small dosage, likely less than 1mg, when reductions no longer cause any withdrawal symptoms, you may want to simply stop. ----------- You might want to print out those sections of the link you think would be helpful in your discussion with your doctor. You should be aware that the vast majority of doctors taper their patients far too fast and don't believe in the existence of prolonged and severe withdrawal. The U.K. is quite a bit ahead of us in the U.S., and the psychiatric association there recently changed its guidelines to admit for the first time the danger of severe, prolonged withdrawal. UK's NICE health guidelines now caution about severe and ... This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Dec 28: 2.2mg Taper is 97% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs.
Moderator Emeritus Rhiannon Posted February 20, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Posted February 20, 2020 You might also bring her some information about why we use the "exponential decay" of taking 10% of the previous dose not the original dose. Discussion here: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30032-X/fulltext And in this section from this forum, lots of links, some of them don't work but the graphs showing how SERT occupancy is a curve not a straight line are good if you can print one out: And this article goes into that and also discusses slow tapering: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/health/depression-withdrawal-drugs.html Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010. Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea. Feb 15 2010: 300 mg Neurontin 200 Lamictal 10 Celexa 0.65 Xanax and 5 mg Ambien Feb 10 2014: 62 Lamictal 1.1 Celexa 0.135 Xanax 1.8 Valium Feb 10 2015: 50 Lamictal 0.875 Celexa 0.11 Xanax 1.5 Valium Feb 15 2016: 47.5 Lamictal 0.75 Celexa 0.0875 Xanax 1.42 Valium 2/12/20 12 0.045 0.007 1 May 2021 7 0.01 0.0037 1 Feb 2022 6 0!!! 0.00167 0.98 2.5 mg Ambien Oct 2022 4.5 mg Lamictal (off Celexa, off Xanax) 0.95 Valium Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.
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