Brian81 Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) Brian81 Hi All I am Brian. 38 year old male from Ireland I am an SSRI user of 2.5 years and i am hoping to wean off it altogether Reasons why. I feel too good tbh and i feel like i dont need to take anymore. I want to try and be pharma free I want to be able to try handle the world with my own ups and downs Most of all i want my libido back😊 Anyway Hope to meet nice people here for genuine converations and shared info Brian Edited May 4, 2020 by Gridley
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 4, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Posted May 4, 2020 Welcome to SA, Brian81. We'll be happy to help you taper your SSRI. All your reasons for wanting to be drug-free are good ones. I have a couple of questions, please. 1. What SSRI are you taking and at what dosage? 2. Have you already started tapering or are you currently on your full dose? We recommend tapering by no more that 10% of your current dose every four weeks. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? The Brassmonkey Slide is a way of making micro-taper reductions weekly, as opposed to a larger reduction once a month. I've used this method to taper Lexapro. The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering Once you let me know the drug you're taking, I can supply you with a link specific to tapering that drug, including how to get the non-standard doses you'll need for your taper. We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium (glycinate is a good form) and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. This is your Introduction topic, where you can answer my questions, ask your own questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs.
Brian81 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Posted May 4, 2020 Hi First of all i am taking 15mg of escitalopram(lexapro) I started on 10mg in aug 2017 and went to 15mg in early 2018. I am on my last 2 weeks of pills and i hope to tell my doctor shortly that i aim to get down to a lower dose(5mg) . I aim to hold on 5 for a small bit before i go the rest of the way. Hopefully or maybe he might opt for a liquid dose from there My Doc is a cool guy,easy to talk too but im not looking foward to seeing his expression when i tell him about tapering. Hes funny that way and thinks anyone on these should stay on them etc. Thats my take of it.. But its my life right,??? Brian
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 4, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Posted May 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Brian81 said: I am on my last 2 weeks of pills and i hope to tell my doctor shortly that i aim to get down to a lower dose(5mg) . I'd strongly urge you not to drop any faster than what we recommend. If you're on 15mg now, your taper should be no more that 3mg, to a new dose of 12mg, which you should stay at for 4 weeks. Getting down to a lower dose is great but should be done slowly. Tapering too fast puts you at risk of withdrawal syndrome, which can be long-lasting and unpleasant. What is withdrawal syndrome. Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. It is especially important to taper slowly below the 10mg point. 85% of the drug's potency is in the last 10mg, and Escitalopram is the strongest antidepressant on the market. This is a time to go slowly, not speed up. Here is the link about tapering Escitalopram, which includes instruction on how to get the nonstandard doses you'll need for a 10% taper. Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram) Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs.
Brian81 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Titled: Lowering your dose for libido Mods this may not be in right topic form so please move if needed too Hi all I introduced myself last night in the introductions forum I hoping to wean myself off lexapro this summer. Im hoping to take my time and taper with care. I am om 15mg and i hope to get down to 5mg and lay idle on that for a while to see how i feel Im feeling too good now and dont need them anymore but another reason is not to feel numb in my body and get my libido back Id like to hear from people who have lowered their dose and stayed there for a while before taking the final step to quit Have any of yous ever seen a rise in libido via lowering your dose. A lower does means less activity of serotoin in the brain so could libido rise Cheers Brian Edited May 5, 2020 by manymoretodays added title, merged from tapering
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted May 5, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Posted May 5, 2020 Hi Brian81, @Brian81, and welcome aboard, I agree completely with Gridley. Did you get a look at the last response above? And then I moved your new topic from tapering, back here. You might get some members comments, right here on your page. We've got a topic on Post- SSRI sexual dysfunction, but I'm not seeing one, on lowering dose for rise in libido. It may well be a side effect of your medication, I know Celexa(Lexapro's baby cousin) has this side effect. Drugs.com is a good source for finding the side effects of your medication(s). Okay, and best. L, P, H, and G, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing
jozeff Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Hi Brian, welcome here! I was exactly like you! About same age, feeling great but no libido. I very strongly advise you to NOT drop to 5 mg immediately. Escitalopram is very very strong stuff and 15 mg is not a small dose although it seems like it is. I would advise you to go to 12 mg as gridley said or even higher. Personally, (after experiencing intense wd problems for nearly 3 years) I would try to decrease 1.5 mg to 13.5 and take a couple of weeks or maybe 2 months and see how that goes. You can always go faster if everything goes well. I know and understand how you feel. You want to get rid of the meds asap but don't be in a hurry. You'll be thankful... Cheers Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks, updosed to 18 mg - 14Aug 2018 - 26apr 2019 citalopram 18 mg, hold 8 months 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg / 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg / hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / 20apr 1.34 mg / 28apr 1.33 mg / 2may 1.32 mg / 9may 1.30 mg hold / micro taper 0.002 mg/day start 17jun / 27jun 1.28 mg / 06jul 1.26 mg / 29jul 1.20 mg / 24aug 1.14 mg / 02sep 1.12 mg / 10sep 1.10 mg / 17sep 1.08 mg / 23 sep 1.06 mg / 07 oct 1.02 mg / 12oct 1.0 mg hold 1 month / 13nov 0.99 mg / micro taper 0.002 mg/day / 27 Nov 0.96 mg / 05dec 0.94 mg
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