Adal: is there any way to split drug to 4 parts?

[Adal]

Thank you for this forum.

I need to split one drug to four parts equally, if i try to do that by split tool, Not accurate.

not good if i take today potion and tomorrow take bigger potion and after tomorrow smaller ..... i need all potion exactly equally.

(brintellix 10 ml)

 

thank you

Edited November 2, 2020 by Gridley

[Gridley]

Welcome to SA, Adal..

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

The following link gives information on getting small doses, including making a liquid from your tablets and using a digital scale to measure.

 

Tips for tapering off vortioxetine (Trintellix, previously called Brintellix)

 

The digital scale many members use in the Gemini-20, available from Amazon.com, but I don't know if this is available in Saudi Arabia.  If not, you could try to buy a jeweler's scale where you live and use that.  You'd cut the pill into quarters, then shave little pieces off or add little shaved pieces until you have 4 equal parts.

 

You might be better off making the liquid, as described in the link above.

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask complete your drug signature, ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

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[Adal]

Thank you Gridley, 

just now finished my signature writing.

before i write it during registering.

 

Is this forum based on doctors? Because I noticed a common thing here, which is that side effects last for years, while doctors completely reject that, and confirm that side effects last for weeks. Are there scientific studies that explain this? Thank you for this forum and I ask God to heal us and you all.

 

regards,

[ChessieCat]

21 minutes ago, ADAL said:

Is this forum based on doctors? Because I noticed a common thing here, which is that side effects last for years, while doctors completely reject that, and confirm that side effects last for weeks. Are there scientific studies that explain this?

 

Side effects are the unwanted symptoms or bad effects that we get when we take a drug.

 

Withdrawal effects are what we experience when we reduce the drug too quickly or stop it abruptly.

 

I suggest that you listen to this podcast.  Altostrata is this site's founder and this is a very recent interview that she did.  It is about 45 minutes long and will probably answer most/all of your questions.

 

INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder 

 

You could also look at this area of the site:

 

From journals and scientific sources

 

And this topic which includes SA's mission:

 

About SurvivingAntidepressants.org

[ChessieCat]

Oh yes, and thank you for creating your drug signature.  The one that you completed when you registered is only visible to staff.  The drug signature appears below every post you make and can be seen be everyone and means that they can see your drug history at a glance and not have to read through your posts to find that information.

 

Please remember to update it whenever you make a change so that it remains current.  Thank you.

[ChessieCat]

You might also find these topics helpful:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

Why taper paper: dose-occupancy curves

 

are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take

 

[Adal]

4 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Side effects are the unwanted symptoms or bad effects that we get when we take a drug.

 

Withdrawal effects are what we experience when we reduce the drug too quickly or stop it abruptly.

 

I suggest that you listen to this podcast.  Altostrata is this site's founder and this is a very recent interview that she did.  It is about 45 minutes long and will probably answer most/all of your questions.

 

INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder 

 

You could also look at this area of the site:

 

From journals and scientific sources

 

And this topic which includes SA's mission:

 

About SurvivingAntidepressants.org

 

Thank you very much ChessieCat, I am happy to see your great replies.

Yes Yes, I mean withdrawal effects not side effects, it is by mistake.

sure i will see that links are you provided me.

just i need to know what is the correct according (withdrawa effects duration) ..

[Adal]

On 11/3/2020 at 8:14 PM, ChessieCat said:

Oh yes, and thank you for creating your drug signature.  The one that you completed when you registered is only visible to staff.  The drug signature appears below every post you make and can be seen be everyone and means that they can see your drug history at a glance and not have to read through your posts to find that information.

 

Please remember to update it whenever you make a change so that it remains current.  Thank you.

 

Yes sure, i will update if i continue visiting. this signature help me and it will help me (inshallah) if I visit a doctor or consult a specialist if he asks me about that.

 

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[Adal]

Are there scientific studies about withdrawal effects?

 

Hello,

Are there scientific studies indicating that the withdrawal effects of psychiatric medications last for years? Because doctors assure that it only lasts for weeks.

 

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[Gridley]

@Adal

 

The following link lists several studies:

Protracted Withdrawal or PAWS (post-acute withdrawal ...

[ChessieCat]

Please do not create any new Introduction topics.  Only 1 Introduction topic per member.  Thank you.

 

There are many existing topics on SA.  Use a search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to the search term.

[Adal]

18 hours ago, Gridley said:

@Adal

 

The following link lists several studies:

Protracted Withdrawal or PAWS (post-acute withdrawal ...

 

Thank you very much. please see my following replies.

Thanks.

[Adal]

13 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Please do not create any new Introduction topics.  Only 1 Introduction topic per member.  Thank you.

 

There are many existing topics on SA.  Use a search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to the search term.

I'm sorry for create new topic.

Can i edit my topic to make introduction? are you suggest that? to see that by others that can help me.

Thank you.

[Adal]

I stop drugs before 1 year ago, but last months i return to 1 stelazine (i am thinking to take brintellix) i toke it 6 days 0.5 ml but side effects return and leave it. after 1 month i return again about 6 days and stop. now i take stelazine 1 and plan to stop it after 1 month.

 

My most disturbing Effects are: low mood, anxiety and a lot of thinking before making simple decisions, exaggeration of matters, problems with those around me, I feel hate, internal tension and anger. How do I deal with these symptom?

I am thinking of taking Brintellix 1ml but I am trying to overcome it without drugs.

[Gridley]

1 hour ago, Adal said:

plan to stop it after 1 month.

After taking a psychiatric drug for one month, you are in danger of withdrawal symptoms.  After one month on a psychiatric drug, you should taper off at a rate of no faster than 10% of current dose every 4 weeks.

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

1 hour ago, Adal said:

I am thinking of taking Brintellix 1ml but I am trying to overcome it without drugs.

 

We are a site for going off drugs.  

 

1 hour ago, Adal said:

How do I deal with these symptom?

We recommend non-drug techniques for coping with life.

 

Non-drug techniques to cope

[Adal]

39 minutes ago, Gridley said:

After taking a psychiatric drug for one month, you are in danger of withdrawal symptoms.  After one month on a psychiatric drug, you should taper off at a rate of no faster than 10% of current dose every 4 weeks.

 

it is simple dose 1ml, also if any person take 1ml do you think must to taper?  

45 minutes ago, Gridley said:

We are a site for going off drugs.  

 

this is my goal, but i mean with all this symptoms, and as you see my last doses, this will be small dose 1m of brintellix, until return to my life, for help me to apply CBT, Now i am alone, no friends, no wife, no job.... (social phobia with dysthymia) the drugs problem with motion and Interaction. 

 

58 minutes ago, Gridley said:

We recommend non-drug techniques for coping with life.

 

many thanks for this techniques link.

[Gridley]

58 minutes ago, Adal said:

1 hour ago, Gridley said:

 

it is simple dose 1ml, also if any person take 1ml do you think must to taper?  

There's no way I can say for sure.  I don't know the effect of the drug on your brain.  Our general advice is that if you've been on a psychiatric drug for a month, there is a danger of withdrawal.  It is  not certain but there is the possibility.  It is your decision.

[Adal]

2 hours ago, Gridley said:

There's no way I can say for sure.  I don't know the effect of the drug on your brain.  Our general advice is that if you've been on a psychiatric drug for a month, there is a danger of withdrawal.  It is  not certain but there is the possibility.  It is your decision.

 

But I think the withdrawal effects after using a small dose are less than the effects after a large dose (if it is of the same drug) right?

[Adal]

 

 

Also, I mean, compared to previous doses, staying at 2.5ml or 1ml is an achievement for me in itself.

[Adal]

These days I am very sensitive, have feelings of anger, hatred and envy I do not enjoy the same as before, for example I want to do something that distracts my mind for external matters.

[Adal]

On 11/8/2020 at 3:17 PM, Gridley said:

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

About taper by 10% .. for example Cipralex 10 ml, it will be 10 then 9 then 8 ...?

or 10% of 9 mg? (10% of current dose)

[Adal]

is there natural food supplement for alleviate the withdrawal effects?

or herbs?

[Gridley]

3 minutes ago, Adal said:

(10% of current dose)

It's always 10% of current dose.  If it were of original dose the taper would go too fast, especially as you got lower and lower in dosage.,

 

3 minutes ago, Adal said:

is there natural food supplement for alleviate the withdrawal effects?

or herbs?

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

Regarding other supplements and herbs, Google SurvivingAntidepressants.org name of supplement and you'll probably find a topic on the supplement along with other members' experiences with them.  When starting a supplement, add in a supplement one at a time (otherwise, if there's a problem, you won't know the cause) and at a low dose.  We don't recommend multivitamins or supplement combinations for the same reason that if there's a problem, you won't know which ingredient is causing it.

 

[Adal]

On 11/9/2020 at 11:13 PM, Gridley said:

We don't recommend multivitamins or supplement combinations for the same reason that if there's a problem, you won't know which ingredient is causing it.

Hello, Also if i benefit, i can not know which benefit me.

[Gridley]

5 minutes ago, Adal said:

i can not know which benefit me.

Try one supplement at a time at a low dose. 

[Adal]

On 11/11/2020 at 10:45 PM, Gridley said:

Try one supplement at a time at a low dose. 

 

Hello, 

When does the attachment start to work? Do you need weeks? I mean, when do I start feeling the effect of supplement?

 

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[Gridley]

1 hour ago, Adal said:

when do I start feeling the effect of supplement?

If the effect is positive, it depends on the supplement.  I t could take some time.  If the effect is negative, you will feel it very soon, within a day or even a few hours.  If the effect is negative, stop taking the supplement.

[Adal]

1 hour ago, Gridley said:

If the effect is positive, it depends on the supplement.  I t could take some time.  If the effect is negative, you will feel it very soon, within a day or even a few hours.  If the effect is negative, stop taking the supplement.

until now, no negative effects. (i will complete 24 hours) i finish take 2 doses.

[Adal]

When will start omega 3 positive effects usually?

[Gridley]

@Adal

 

Levels of omega-3's build up quickly in the body once you take supplements. But it may take 6 weeks to 6 months to see a significant change in mood, pain, or other symptoms.

[Adal]

23 hours ago, Gridley said:

@Adal

 

Levels of omega-3's build up quickly in the body once you take supplements. But it may take 6 weeks to 6 months to see a significant change in mood, pain, or other symptoms.

 

Oh, too much time.

 

[Adal]

On 11/14/2020 at 12:57 AM, Gridley said:

@Adal

 

Levels of omega-3's build up quickly in the body once you take supplements. But it may take 6 weeks to 6 months to see a significant change in mood, pain, or other symptoms.

 

I quoted this tow times, but i can not see my reply. anyway I asked about sleep problem, i am taking 2 panadol night. also can not sleep good, not enough hours of sleep, bad mood after wake up. is there any trips?

[Gridley]

4 minutes ago, Adal said:

also can not sleep good, not enough hours of sleep, bad mood after wake up. is there any trips?

Here are some links to help you with sleep:

 

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952

 

This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  

 

 Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

 

Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   

See Melatonin for sleep   It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  

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[Adal]

On 11/24/2020 at 10:32 PM, Gridley said:

Here are some links to help you with sleep:

 

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952

 

This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  

 

 Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

 

Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   

See Melatonin for sleep   It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  

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Thank you very much, about mirzagin iam using now 7.5 ml , if i use it for one week, is there any effects after stop?

[Gridley]

4 hours ago, Adal said:

if i use it for one week, is there any effects after stop?

What is the total time you've been taking Mirtazapine?

[Adal]

1 hour ago, Gridley said:

What is the total time you've been taking Mirtazapine?

it is when it is needed. (i taked it about 15 times) 7.5 ml