Angelica123 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) Hi, I don't speak English but I will do my best. I was taking escitalopram or lexapro between 10 and 20mg with interruption for more or less 4 years. July 2016- Nov 2017 lexapro 10mg July 2018-Nov 2019 lexapro 10 and 20mg June 2020- November 2020 lexapro of 10mg for 5 months I reduced it one week by half and the next other half I have already been 10 months without taking but the insomnia is very strong and I have not been able to sleep for more than 2 weeks I have currents for the nights by the arm and the back and a palpitation at the height of the stomach I take care of everything that as I have already lost more than 10 kg. Insomnia I don't know how long someone who can advise me would not know that these pills caused those things I took them thinking that they would help me on the advice of the psychiatrist. Edited August 19, 2021 by getofflex reformat to make it legible, font was very large, post extended well past right side of screen, had to scroll to the right to read it. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Hello, my name is Angelica, I can't speak English but I will do my best. I was taking Escitalopram for about 4 years it was prescribed for anxiety Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg In November I was reducing it as previously the Dr. had told me (I did not know anything about these pills, only that they could help me and the Dr. made sure they were the healthiest). Then in June 2020 and several months after I stopped taking the pill, I woke up with a very strong panic attack in the early morning and from there followed gastrointestinal problems at dawn, a burning sensation in my back, electric shock in my left arm, I went to the psychiatrist again and He prescribed me again for this I did not know it was abstinence I thought that maybe it was that I had been very worried about the pandemic I was taking for 5 months because after 2 months I felt fine so since I did not want to continue taking the pills I took them for 5 months and I left it in the same way in my total ignorance and after two months of being without the pills, the nocturnal gastrointestinal problems returned as before and thus I have been holding out for 10 months and it got worse after I took diclofenac that another dr prescribed for the inflammation everything became stronger a freezing in the head and the insomnia that does not go away I have already lost more than 10 kg trying to take care of myself with meals to be able to sleep at night. Please I would like some advice if I should take up again as these sensations are becoming more and more unbearable. Should I pick up again and try to quit more gradually? because I feel like I'm getting weaker every day. Thank you Edited August 20, 2021 by Altostrata removed font coding Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 19, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 19, 2021 Hello, and welcome to SA. We are a peer owned and run forum of people who have been or are getting off of psychiatric drugs. I'm very sorry that you are having the insomnia and other symptoms. I"m also concerned about your significant weight loss. Are you able to get any sleep at all? If so, how much per night on average? Have you been altogether off the Lexapro since December 2020? Here is some information about how these drugs actually work. How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain This helps you understand what withdrawal syndrome is: Video on Recovery from Psych Drugs What is Happening in Your Brain What is Withdrawal Syndrome? Also, as we are recovering, we suggest keeping things slow, simple, and stable. This is extremely important. Keep it Simple, Slow, and Stable When we recover, there may be times of feeling OK mixed in with times of feeling bad. This is called windows and waves. Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization Here are some techniques to cope with symptoms: Acknowledge, Accept, Float Non Drug Ways to Cope with Withdrawal Symptoms We don't suggest many supplements, but 2 that many of us find helpful are magnesium and omega-3 fish oil. Here are the links for info about those. It is suggested to add one at a time, and start with a low dose to see how it affects you. Magnesium Omega 3 Fish Oil Even though you have been off the Lexapro for a while, you may want to try going back on a small dose, which we call reinstatement. It is best done very carefully. This is temporary, and after stabilizing you would then taper gradually off of this. There is some risk involved. The purpose is to help reduce the severity of your withdrawal symptoms, and allow you to get some sleep and stop losing weight. Here is some information about reinstatement. About Reinstating and Stabilizing to Reduce Withdrawal Symptoms I would suggest you try reinstating to 0.5 mg of Lexapro. This link will tell you how to measure and take a small dose: Tapering and Dosing Lexapro I know there is a lot to digest here. You have come to the right place. Let us know whether you decide to reinstate. Please let us know if you have any questions. Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Thank you very much for the information, I am sleeping 1 hour or sometimes nothing, and I take good care of myself with food because in the early morning it is as if my stomach digested in record time with electrical sensations in the arm, palpitations, freezing of the head. Today I went to the psychiatrist and he scold me for having left the pill that what I have is anxiety and that I should take again for 5 years or for life people like me who have taken for 3 years but it was because I trusted him not I knew that it should not be taken for more than 1 year. The prescription he has given me is 5mg of escitalopram for 2 weeks and then 1 tablet of 10mg in the morning and clonazepam 0.5mg 1 tablet at night for 2 weeks then 1/2 tablet at night for 2 weeks. Edited August 20, 2021 by Altostrata removed font coding Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 20, 2021 Hello, @Angelica123 You might try making a liquid of the escitalopram and taking 0.5mg -- a half-milligram, a very small amount. We suggest this because it might not have the effect on you that diclofenac did, your nervous system having become sensitive to drugs. Making a liquid from a tablet is explained here Tips for tapering off escitalopram (Lexapro) Is your first language Spanish? We have people here who speak it, such as @Gridley Please post unformatted text, the text you are copying from the translator is too big. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 Y el clonazepam si 0.5mg para poder dormir? La pastilla de 10mg de Escitalopram la parto en 4 y tomo 2.5mg? Podría ser? Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) @Angelica123 por favor habla en Ingles para que la otra gente pueden entender. Muchas gracias. @Gridleyse habla Espanol. Es mejor si tomas 0.5 mg Lexapro. El 2.5 mg se puede hacerse peor. Haz click aquí para traducir su mensaje en el futuro. Gracias. https://translation2.paralink.com Edited August 20, 2021 by getofflex 1 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Angelica123 said: Y el clonazepam si 0.5mg para poder dormir? Eso seria bien. Ten mucho cuidado porque el clonazepam es muy adictivo. Es mejor usarlo de vez en cuando. Edited August 20, 2021 by getofflex Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 The psychiatrist has told me to take 1/4 of the 10mg pill for two weeks as he had first told me to take half for two weeks 5mg but how did I tell him that I had already left have already been 10 months and I have been with a weak stomach but he says nothing happens because I have already taken this before. In my country they do not sell the solution in drops I have seen that in Spain but I do not know yet. I try with what I have the 1/4 part of the pill...I'm worrying about how to do Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Note for Staff: Excerpt from "Tips for Tapering Lexapro" in Spanish part 1 Consideraciones especiales Una característica importante de Lexapro es que, miligramo a miligramo, es mucho más potente que otros ISRS. Químicamente, Lexapro es una variación de Celexa; la molécula fue rediseñada para ser patentable ya que la patente de Celexa estaba a punto de expirar. La molécula modificada es un ISRS más potente, de 2 a 4 veces más fuerte que otros. (Wikipedia tiene una buena explicación de esto en https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Escitalopram.) Sin embargo, muchos médicos desconocen que el escitalopram es más potente que otros ISRS y lo dosifican como si fuera de la misma potencia. Aunque la llamada dosis inicial habitual de escitalopram, 10 mg, es equivalente a 20-30 mg o más de, por ejemplo, paroxetina (Paxil), es posible que su médico le haya pasado a una dosis aún mayor. Si está tomando 20 mg de escitalopram, está tomando una dosis considerable de un ISRS. Si está tomando 5 mg de Lexapro, no es una dosis pequeña, sino que equivale a 10-20 mg de Paxil o Celexa. En consecuencia, cuando reduzcas la dosis de escitalopram, debes tener cuidado de disminuirla en pequeñas cantidades, ya que cada disminución se ve magnificada por la potencia adicional del escitalopram. Si los síntomas de abstinencia de una disminución del 10% le resultan demasiado difíciles, después de 3 ó 4 semanas disminuya una cantidad menor. Dejar de tomar Lexapro en frío no es una buena idea. Es como tirar tu cerebro por un acantilado. Traducción realizada con la versión gratuita del traductor www.DeepL.com/Translator Edited August 20, 2021 by getofflex Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Note for Staff: Excerpt from "Tips for Tapering Lexapro" in Spanish part 2 Reducir un 10% al mes para empezar La regla del 10% se aplica a Lexapro, al igual que a otros medicamentos psiquiátricos: Reduzca un 10% al mes, calculado sobre la última dosis. (La cantidad de la reducción se reduce progresivamente). Ver ¿Por qué reducir un 10% de mi dosis? Cortar los comprimidos Aunque existen comprimidos de 5 mg, si está tomando 20 mg de Lexapro, una reducción a 15 mg supondría una disminución del 25%. Esta es una disminución mayor que el 10% recomendado. Si desea probar a cortar los comprimidos, puede hacerlo con un pastillero, al igual que otros medicamentos en forma de comprimidos. Guarde los trozos que no utilice en un frasco de pastillas limpio y etiquetado con la dosis para su uso futuro. Reducir con una combinación de comprimidos y líquido Si está tomando, por ejemplo, 15 mg, y quiere reducir un 10% (1,5 mg), puede tomar un comprimido de 10 mg y 3,5 mg en la forma líquida para un total de 13,5 mg. Titulación utilizando la formulación líquida Utilizar la forma líquida es la mejor manera de controlar la cantidad de cada disminución. La formulación estadounidense proporciona 5 mg por 5 mL (lo que equivale a 1mg del medicamento en un mililitro del líquido, o 1mg:1mL). De http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billing/Coding/National.Drug.Codes/0456-2101-08 Cita Lexapro líquido Código NDC 0456-2101-08 <-- este es el código de pedido Descripción del envase 240 mL en 1 Frasco Denominación de origen Lexapro Denominación común ESCITALOPRAM OXALATE Nombre de la forma farmacéutica LÍQUIDO Nombre del etiquetador Forest Laboratories, Inc. Nombre de la sustancia ESCITALOPRAM OXALATE Número de concentración 5 Unidad de concentración mg/5mL Ampliar El código NDC 0456-2101-08 es el código de pedido de EE.UU. para el líquido. Usted puede medir dosis menores a 10mg usando una jeringa oral de 5mL o 10mL, ver http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/235-tapering-techniques/page__view__findpost__p__2607 La jeringa oral de 10mL tiene marcas que permiten medir cantidades tan pequeñas como 0,20mL. Si está en 5 mg, por ejemplo, utilice una jeringa oral de 10 mililitros para medir una disminución del 10%, es decir, 0,5 mg. Si resta 0,5 mg de 5 mg, obtendrá una dosis reducida de 4,5 mg. Si necesita medir una fracción aún más pequeña de un miligramo, utilice una jeringa oral de 1 mililitro, consulte http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/235-tapering-techniques/page__view__findpost__p__2284 NOTA: En el Reino Unido, la forma líquida está disponible en una concentración de 10mg:1mL o 20mg:1mL - muy inconveniente para la reducción de la dosis. Una versión de la forma líquida es Cipralex de Lundbeck. Para tomar 1mg del líquido de 10:1, utiliza la pequeña y delgada jeringa oral de 1mL para tomar 0,1mL (una décima de mililitro). La jeringa oral de 1mL tiene 10 marcas dentro de 0,1mL, lo que permite tomar 0,01mL (una centésima de mililitro) o, dada la concentración 10:1, 0,1mg (una décima de miligramo) de escitalopram. De: https://www.lundbeck.com/au/products/our-products/lexapro/lexapro-oral: Traducción realizada con la versión gratuita del traductor www.DeepL.com/Translator Edited August 20, 2021 by getofflex Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 I have gone to another psychiatrist and he wonder me which other antidepressant I want to follow, I told him with citalopram and he gave me 20mg and let it start with 10mg. I don't know what to do now Escitalopram o citalopram Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 Note for Staff: Excerpt from "Tips for Tapering Lexapro" in Spanish part 3 Almacenamiento Conservar LEXAPRO solución oral en un lugar fresco y seco donde la temperatura se mantenga por debajo de los 25°C. Desechar LEXAPRO solución oral 10 mg/mL 3 meses después de la primera apertura. Desechar LEXAPRO solución oral 20 mg/mL 2 meses después de la primera apertura. Esta información de Lundbeck, fabricante de gotas de escitalopram en Europa, http://www.medicines.org.uk/EMC/medicine/21976/SPC/Cipralex+5,+10+y+20+mg+comprimidos+revestidos+y+20+mg+ml+gotas+orales,+solución/ sugiere que la forma líquida puede diluirse con agua: Cita Cipralex gotas orales, solución: Para su administración se puede utilizar un frasco con aplicador de cuentagotas o una jeringa oral. La jeringa oral lleva una graduación en mg que hace referencia a la dosis de escitalopram. Cipralex gotas orales, solución puede mezclarse con agua, zumo de naranja o zumo de manzana. Dado que el agua forma parte de la formulación original, es poco probable que el agua adicional haga que la dilución se degrade. Sin embargo, la exposición a la luz, etc. puede hacerlo, por lo que no está claro cuánto tiempo durará la potencia de una solución diluida. Líquido "hágalo usted mismo Las personas informan que pueden hacer su propio líquido a partir de los comprimidos de Lexapro y agua. Es poco soluble en agua, ver http://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB01175 -- la estabilidad (duración de la dilución) es desconocida. El oxalato de escitalopram se presenta como un polvo fino, de color blanco a ligeramente amarillo, y es libremente soluble en metanol y dimetilsulfóxido (DMSO), soluble en solución salina isotónica, poco soluble en agua y etanol, ligeramente soluble en acetato de etilo, e insoluble en heptano. Según RxList,com. Su mejor opción sería utilizar una solución salina isotónica (solución salina normal) hecha en casa (9% de sal en agua) que se hace disolviendo 9 gramos (1,8 cucharaditas) de sal de mesa en 1000mL de agua. Preparación de la solución salina La solución salina normal debería servir para un mes. Extraiga la cantidad de solución salina normal para la dilución deseada, añádala a un recipiente separado, preferiblemente de color ámbar y con tapa, y luego añada la tableta de escitalopram o la tableta en polvo hasta que se disuelva. Manténgalo protegido de la luz en el refrigerador, y lo mejor es volver a mezclar un lote de su Lexapro(disuelto) al menos cada semana. Ver Cómo hacer un líquido a partir de comprimidos o cápsulas Utilizar una combinación de comprimidos o cápsulas y líquido En lugar de pasar directamente a una dosis totalmente líquida, es posible que desee tomar una parte de su dosis en líquido y otra en comprimidos o cápsulas de dosis más bajas, convirtiendo gradualmente a todo el líquido a medida que se llega a dosis más bajas. Esto puede resultar muy cómodo y reducir los problemas que supone pasar de una forma a otra del medicamento. Traducción realizada con la versión gratuita del traductor www.DeepL.com/Translator Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 Here are some links. Please use https://www.deepl.com to translate into Spanish. http://www.medicines.org.uk/EMC/medicine/21976/SPC/Cipralex+5,+10+and+20+mg+film-coated+tablets+and+20+mg+ml+oral+drops,+solution/ http://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB01175 How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/235-tapering-techniques/page__view__findpost__p__2284 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 20, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Angelica123 said: I have gone to another psychiatrist and he wonder me which other antidepressant I want to follow, I told him with citalopram and he gave me 20mg and let it start with 10mg. I don't know what to do now Escitalopram o citalopram Please use https://www.deepl.com to translate this message, and also the links contained in here. You could reinstate to either one. If I were you, I would convince the psychiatrist that you need to reinstate only a small amount either 0.5 mg Lexapro, or 1.0 mg citalopram. You don't want to reinstate too high, or your symptoms could become even worse. This is because your system is very sensitive, and the sudden introduction of another psychiatric drug could further destabilize your system. Here are the links that that tell how you could measure this small of a dose: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/406-tips-for-tapering-off-escitalopram-lexapro/?tab=comments#comment-4142 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/2023-tips-for-tapering-off-celexa-citalopram/?tab=comments#comment-19887 This link will give you advice on how to talk to your psychiatrist about withdrawal from psychiatric drugs. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/20161-how-to-talk-to-a-doctor-about-tapering-and-withdrawal-what-to-expect/?tab=comments#comment-28811 1 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 Then I would start with 0.5mg of escitalopram, I would dilute it in the saline solution (10mg in 20ml) to extract 1 ml as a daily dose, right? and I would take this for a week to see how it goes and see if I increase the dose. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 21, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 21, 2021 Yes that is the correct way to measure your dose. We suggest that you give the reinstatement a minimum of a month or two because it takes a while for your system to settle down and get some benefit from it. Please stay on the 0.5 mg dose for at least a month unless it makes you significantly worse. Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 I have a Nacl 0.9% pharmacy liquid, will it also work to dissolve the pill ? Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted August 24, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 24, 2021 Hi Angelica123, On 8/21/2021 at 5:30 PM, Angelica123 said: I have a Nacl 0.9% pharmacy liquid, will it also work to dissolve the pill ? On 8/20/2021 at 7:08 PM, Angelica123 said: Then I would start with 0.5mg of escitalopram, I would dilute it in the saline solution (10mg in 20ml) to extract 1 ml as a daily dose, right? and I would take this for a week to see how it goes and see if I increase the dose. Your math is good. There would be 0.5 mg escitalopram in each 1 mL of solution. It is soluble in NS(normal saline) and that should be fine to use. Also, if it were me, I'd use an amber colored bottle to store your solution in, and then do a new mixture every 7 days. Please let us know how all this goes. Give us a daily progress update if you would. Thank you. Love, peace, healing, and growth, mmt 1 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 25, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 25, 2021 @Angelica123, I edited your signature to make it easier to read. Please let us know how you're doing as you try 0.5mg escitalopram. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 13 hours ago, manymoretodays said: Your math is good. There would be 0.5 mg escitalopram in each 1 mL of solution. It is soluble in NS(normal saline) and that should be fine to use. Also, if it were me, I'd use an amber colored bottle to store your solution in... Thanks for the information @manymoretodays, I did the solution on Sunday and I am using an amber bottle to store it in the fridge, So I should take my last dose next Saturday and then I would have to discard it, right? 6 hours ago, Altostrata said: @Angelica123, I edited your signature to make it easier to read. Thank you @Altrostata , sorry I know it's a bit incomplete, I'll change it, soon. So this is my update so far, Yesterday in the morning I started taking escitalopram diluted 1ml, also I have been taking 1/4 of clonazepan for 4 days to be able to sleep, but I only sleep 2 to 3 hours, the palpitations continue, in addition to sudden sweating, my minimal pressure has been high, so I have to keep a register every day for a month (doctor recomendations). I decided not to take clonazepan tonight and see how it goes. Other than that I had stomach problems in the morning, I don't know if it's related to escitalopram. I'm going to an acupuncturist, taking daily walks to try to be calm. I'm taking melatonin, but they are kid-friendly chews. I am very grateful for this site and hoping to have good news to write about my progress. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 25, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 25, 2021 If I were you, I'd avoid taking clonazepam. If you take it too often, you may become dependent on it and need to taper off it, as well. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 25, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Angelica123 said: I did the solution on Sunday and I am using an amber bottle to store it in the fridge, So I should take my last dose next Saturday and then I would have to discard it, right? Yes, this is correct. Then make a new solution the very same way you made the previous one. 11 hours ago, Angelica123 said: Yesterday in the morning I started taking escitalopram diluted 1ml, So you reinstated to 1 mg, instead of 0.5 mg? How is it going so far? Please stick to the very same dose very day, taken at the same time of day. Good for you for doing non drug techniques to help yourself. Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted August 25, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 7:08 PM, Angelica123 said: Then I would start with 0.5mg of escitalopram, I would dilute it in the saline solution (10mg in 20ml) to extract 1 ml as a daily dose, right? and I would take this for a week to see how it goes and see if I increase the dose. 12 hours ago, Angelica123 said: Thanks for the information @manymoretodays, I did the solution on Sunday and I am using an amber bottle to store it in the fridge, So I should take my last dose next Saturday and then I would have to discard it, right? Hi Angelica! Yes, that sounds good. Exactly correct. A covered amber container kept in the fridge. And yes, definitely discard the remaining solution and remix every 7 days. Take your dose at the same time each day. What time are you taking it. How did it dissolve for you? And then what day, did you begin to take the 0.5 mg dose? Was it the 24th of August? @getofflex she's going with a solution of 10 mg dissolved in 20 mL of NS, so that 1 mL is equal to 0.5 mg. And then @Angelica123when you report your dose to us, tell us what it is in the mg or milligrams, rather than the mL or milliliter. That will be most helpful. 12 hours ago, Angelica123 said: the palpitations continue, in addition to sudden sweating, my minimal pressure has been high, so I have to keep a register every day for a month (doctor recomendations). Angelica, you may get some relief from the sweating and palpations, high blood pressure, using some Magnesium. It tends to be very calming. And it may help you get some decent sleep as well. I think it would be a good alternative to the benzo or clonazepam that you mentioned above.Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Try and stick with a brand that just has magnesium in it, no other additives though. Then start low in dose with it, gradually working up in dosage amount. Take a look at the link too. Just click on the underlined passage. I've continued to use either the Epsom Salts in the bath OR my most recent find, and what I use is a magnesium citrate that dissolves in water which is unbelievably calming. Sometimes those palpitations are a result of nervous system instability and then feelings of anxiety. I think the magnesium can work great to restore calm. You'll see some other types mentioned in the link, and regardless, just start nice and low with the dose amount. Also make sure to drink plenty of water. Keep us updated, daily is best, during this trial period with your reinstatement. 13 hours ago, Angelica123 said: I'm going to an acupuncturist, taking daily walks to try to be calm. I'm taking melatonin, but they are kid-friendly chews. This is excellent too! Do tell the acupuncturist that you just want calming now, nothing stimulating. Acupuncture And best, L, P, H, and G, mmt 1 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 28, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) On 8/25/2021 at 5:49 PM, manymoretodays said: what I use is a magnesium citrate that dissolves in water which is unbelievably calming. @manymoretodaysDo you mind telling us the specific brand name of this magnesium? Thank you. Edited August 28, 2021 by getofflex Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted August 29, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 29, 2021 Here you go: https://www.kalvitamins.com/collections/magnesium/products/magnesium-glycinate-400-activmix And my error, it's a glycinate, and does have some additives. You'll see. I have had good luck with magnesium citrate too, capsule contents suspended in water. Very calming, seems to cut right into any of my own anxiety/fears quickly, as well as relieves heart palpitations, if I am feeling those at all. 1 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 Hi, On 8/25/2021 at 5:49 PM, manymoretodays said: Take your dose at the same time each day. What time are you taking it. How did it dissolve for you? And then what day, did you begin to take the 0.5 mg dose? Was it the 24th of August? I started (reinstate) on August 23rd at 10:20 am, taking .05mg escitalopram as daily dose, the tablet dissolved in a minute, I cut it. I still haven't been able to sleep, that's why before yesterday I took 1/4 of clonazepam, since I had to go to get vaccinated and it gave me a lot of anxiety, I think I slept between 3 or 4 hours, the bad thing is that later I feel very tired in the morning . That day was an exception, as I am trying to sleep without taking any medication. I went to a new psychologist, in short, he told me that I should take the dose that the psychiatrist prescribed, in order to feel any improvement, that made me feel very bad, worried, and tired of not being able to find a professional with a little empathy. I started taking criztalized magnesium chloride, I dissolve a pinch in a glass of water at 6pm. I bought the epsom salts, but I still don't use them because I don't have a bathtub, so I'm looking for a way. Thanks for the tips. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted August 31, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 31, 2021 16 hours ago, Angelica123 said: I started (reinstate) on August 23rd at 10:20 am, taking .05mg escitalopram as daily dose Did you mean to say 0.5 mg escitalopram? I'm assuming this is what you meant. 16 hours ago, Angelica123 said: That day was an exception, as I am trying to sleep without taking any medication. I'm glad to hear the night of poor sleep was an exception. It's good to sleep with no medication. 16 hours ago, Angelica123 said: I went to a new psychologist, in short, he told me that I should take the dose that the psychiatrist prescribed, in order to feel any improvement, that made me feel very bad, worried, and tired of not being able to find a professional with a little empathy. Unfortunately, this is the case with many doctors. They feel they know best, and they have not experienced WD, so they discount us patients. What dose did the psychiatrist prescribe? I hope that the magnesium helps you to relax. You can also make or buy magnesium cream to put on your body. Has the reinstatement helped you yet? Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 2:31 PM, getofflex said: Did you mean to say 0.5 mg escitalopram? I'm assuming this is what you meant. Yes. That's what I meant. On 8/31/2021 at 2:31 PM, getofflex said: I'm glad to hear the night of poor sleep was an exception. It's good to sleep with no medication. Well, what I was trying to say is that taking clonazepam was an exception, I still have insomnia. On 8/31/2021 at 2:31 PM, getofflex said: What dose did the psychiatrist prescribe? I hope that the magnesium helps you to relax. You can also make or buy magnesium cream to put on your body. Has the reinstatement helped you yet? The 2nd psychiatrist (I've seen 3 different psychiatrist in August) prescribed me 2.5mg for 5 days 5mg-25 days and then see how it goes. About the reinstatement, I still don't feel any difference to be honest, it's been 12 days taking 0.5 mg, so I have to hold it for 2 more weeks, right? I thought the magnesium was helping me, but I'm not sure of that, yesterday I couldn't sleep at all. So I'm taking 2 pinch instead of 1 this time. I think I'm going to make my own magnesium cream. Thanks for the idea. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, Angelica123 said: 1 minute ago, Angelica123 said: clonazepam was an exception, I still have insomnia. I copy paste that, that's why it's bigger. Sorry, it's looks bad. (Rude) Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted September 3, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2021 19 hours ago, Angelica123 said: About the reinstatement, I still don't feel any difference to be honest, it's been 12 days taking 0.5 mg, so I have to hold it for 2 more weeks, right? Yes, I would stay on the 0.5 mg for at least 2 more weeks. I'm sorry to hear that you are still having trouble with sleep. I know this is very hard and unpleasant - I went through this myself, but eventually, it gets better. Here is more information about insomnia. When I cannot sleep, I listen to relaxing music at a very low volume - sometimes it relaxes me and helps me fall asleep. I'm praying for you. Tips to Help Sleep - Withdrawal Insomnia Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 hi It has been 8 weeks since I started taking .5 mg escitalopran and I feel that I am now getting to sleep daily, although I wake up at the slightest noise several times, I can sleep after all. I would like to start reducing the dosage, I have read that you recommend 2% to 5% to reduce and I don't know how to go about it. The dose I currently take is 0.5mg I do this by diluting a 10mg pill in 20ml, from this solution I draw 1ml with a 1ml syringe. My question is if I can reduce my dosage by simply using the measurements marked on the 1ml syringe, let's say make the same solution as usual, but this time extract 0.9ml instead of 1ml. Can I do it this way? help Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Angelica123 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 I just realized that by extracting .9 ml of the solution I would be reducing 10% of my current dose of 0.5mg. So if I reduce only half I would be reducing 5% which would be 0.475 mg. So that is what I will do, from now on. I think it's fine, I'll be posting here if I notice any changes. Juli 2015-Nov 2016 Escitalopram 10mg Juli 2017-Nov 2019 Escitalopram 10-20mg-10mg fast taper 5mg-2.5mg June 2020 November 2020 10mg escitalopram reduce in a week 5mg-2.5mg Reinstate 0.5mg escitalopram 23/08/21 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted October 17, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Angelica123 said: hi It has been 8 weeks since I started taking .5 mg escitalopran and I feel that I am now getting to sleep daily, although I wake up at the slightest noise several times, I can sleep after all. This is great news! I know how important sleep is - insomnia was my biggest WD symptom. 2 hours ago, Angelica123 said: So if I reduce only half I would be reducing 5% which would be 0.475 mg Yes, that is correct. This sounds like a good plan - a very good conservative taper. Are you having any significant symptoms at this time? Here is a link to help you determine if you are stable, and ready to taper. Stability Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
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