Horsi Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hi, im new here und read a little bit. I have a big Problem: i have read about the waves and Windows pattern. My Problem ist that i Had No Windows after stopping prozac. They stopped it when my wife sende me to the Hospital. The reason was that i reinstated an made a reduce from 0,45 mg to 0,28 mg. Than Symptoms get awful. So i tryed to Back to 0,45 mg. It was incomprehensible.I saw scary faces and Had never ending Panic attacks and electric shocks. I tried it further for two weeks then i was send to the Hospital. They stopped prozac and have other medicaments who doesnt help. Since then im completely insomnia, heartracing, Dizzyness. I live with my parents now because im to disabled to be at Home. Is there Hope that i can Recover? I dont know why other people have Windows and im in this constantly hell without pausing... Greetings Walter 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted December 30, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi, Horsi. Welcome to Surviving Antidepressants. Some people have windows and some people don't. But even people who don't experience windows until they are close to recovery still go onto recover. There's no rhyme or reason to the process. And that makes it very frustrating. You mentioned you already read the windows and waves thread. This thread may also help explain this phenomenon: How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain Here is more information about tapering and threads specific to Prozac and Seroquel: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms Tips for tapering off fluoxetine (Prozac) Tips for tapering off quetiapine (Seroquel) 18 hours ago, Horsi said: The reason was that i reinstated an made a reduce from 0,45 mg to 0,28 mg. Than Symptoms get awful. So i tryed to Back to 0,45 mg. Information we need: the dates you made these changes to your Prozac dose the time(s) of day you take your current drugs and the doses the date in December you started Seroquel. If you've only been on it a few days, you can safely stop, but please give us more information list any supplements and other drugs you're taking, including the doses Once we have this information, we can help you set up a game plan for coming off these drugs. Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi, thank you. The last dose was in May 2021. I dont know why i could'nt go to the last dose. Before i was in Withdrawal too, but Not so Bad. I read that people without Windows are healing slowlier like people with Windows. Is that real? They gave me Seroquel now to calm the cns. I had a little improvement. I take the Seroquel Always at 8 PM. You send me an Information about reinstatement. Is that an Option? Im wondering if it is good to reduce the Seroquel right now... Greetings 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted December 30, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Horsi said: I read that people without Windows are healing slowlier like people with Windows. Is that real? I don't know. It's really hard to figure out the recovery pattern because it's so individual and varies in severity. Healing is slow, but it does happen. 14 minutes ago, Horsi said: You send me an Information about reinstatement. Is that an Option? I didn't realize you stopped Prozac in May. That was 7 months ago, so reinstating would be risky this far out. 12 minutes ago, Horsi said: They gave me Seroquel now to calm the cns. I had a little improvement. I take the Seroquel Always at 8 PM. Which symptoms improved? How many hours do you sleep each night? Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 The Dizzyness ist getting better and my Heartracing. With Seroquel i sleep 1-4 hours at night, but its another sleep Like normal.... Can reinstatement help? 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted December 30, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2021 @HorsiPlease start a drug and symptoms journal. Here is an example of what we need. Do this every day over the next few days. Also include any supplements you are taking and the amount of sleep you are getting. Quote DATE: 6 a.m. Woke with anxiety 8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 10 a.m. Stomach is upset 10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast 11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch 4 p.m. Feel a bit better 5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 6 p.m. Ate dinner 9:20 p.m. Headache 10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel 10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy 10:30 p.m. Fell asleep 2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien") 2:45 a.m. Fell asleep 4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Ok, i will do that. What ist about the reinstatement? Could that be help? And i read that some people recovered with a Neuroleptikum. Can you tell me more about it? I would do everything. 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted December 30, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi Horsi, And welcome from me too. 2 minutes ago, Horsi said: i will do that. What ist about the reinstatement? Could that be help? And i read that some people recovered with a Neuroleptikum. Can you tell me more about it? Do you mean a neuroleptic. Sometimes antipsychotic(AP) drugs like Seroquel are also called neuroleptics. It looks like you are on one. Have you reduced the Seroquel prior to 11/2021? Or increased it at all? If so, when? And I don't know what this means: 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT, dann wieder einsetzen 0,5 mg und vermasseln May 2021 The latter part of your signature ^, what does that translate to in English. Also see Dr. Glenmullen's symptom list: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/2390-dr-joseph-glenmullens-withdrawal-symptom-checklist/ You'll see your symptoms there. We look forward to seeing your drug and symptoms journal. See Shep's post to you above for the link on how to do that. And best, Love, peace, healing, and growth, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi, yes i mean the Seroquel. I take it since 2 November 50_100_150_2000 I read that some people recovered with an Neuroleptikum.? I forgot that i have akathisia and completely insomnia too Greetings 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Sorry, i Take 200 Not 2000 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 2912.21 2 Woke up: was calm, but I still feel my heart racing, which is better since I've been taking Seroquel. 8:00 am: Getting up: Sad to be able to sit there with my family who will be coming for lunch 9 a.m .: Breakfast: Akathisia, can't sit down for a long time, hand sweat 11 am: can't stand my status, thoughts of suicide, hopelessness 13 AM: Lunch cant sit there with my Family, Rating fast and Go to my flat upstairs. Crying 14 AM - 17AM: Trying to calm down lying in the Couch, Made a little Walk 18 PM: Eating. Im sad and crying 20PM: Take Seroquel 21 PM: Go to bed, awake Till 1:30 then took an Ambien 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
Horsi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Im crying a lot. My Life was so perfect Till this drug crashed all. My Body dont react of Medicamtentation and it feels Like my Brain is crashed forever. The fast tapering of reinstatement destroyed all. I really think that it lasts forever. I cant live like this 2011 - 2020: Prozaz CT Okt-20: Reinstated Dez 20 / 0,5-0,34,0,26 last step was too much horrible Symptoms Increase 0,34 Back. Freaked ou send to Psychiatrie 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg Link to comment
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