LostInCanada Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 @ElaineM so my mistake...you are taking a type of magnesium called l-threonate and in my head I read l-theanine 🙄. So glad you found a form that works so well. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Yes I am taking that form of magnesium!😅 I thought you were talking about the L theanine in happy juice (I think it’s in there). 😅😂 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
ElaineM Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 How do I come off of my reinstated amount of 1 mg?! I’m still not sleeping good all the time but I am sleeping so so much better and honestly I’m not convinced that reinstates amount ever helped🤷🏻♀️ fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 18, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, ElaineM said: How do I come off of my reinstated amount of 1 mg?! I’m still not sleeping good all the time but I am sleeping so so much better and honestly I’m not convinced that reinstates amount ever helped🤷🏻♀️ The first post in this thread explains: Tips for tapering off fluoxetine (Prozac) I would caution against removing this bit of Prozac if there's any chance that it did help with your sleep. You may want to see if you develop a more solid baseline before stopping it altogether. Just a thought. Also, I removed your email address from your signature. Please do not add personally identifiable information in your signature or in posts. This is for your own safety. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 @ElaineM glad your sleep is improving. If you go down to .9 mg, you will want to hold that for at least 4 weeks. Good for you. If you see worsening sleep than you might want to stabilize a little longer. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 I have been having some severe sleep anxiety. Like the other night I was so anxious my heart hurt like it was racing. Is this withdrawal or me needing to go back on meds? Im kinda considering meds again. I’ve been pretty miserable lately. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 @ElaineM it is withdrawals. Prozac has such a long half life and withdrawals can show up 9 months after the fact. Your dose was insanely high. Have you read Claire Weekes Help for your Nerves. How she addresses anxiety is so spot on. I mentioned her before. Anxiety is just adrenaline. It can't hurt you. Accept that your body is just overreacting. It is like a dog barking at an approaching stranger trying to warn you which is great. Good dog only it is just the mailman so a false alarm. Still good dog just misguided so the warning wasn't necessary. Your body is trying to do its job, just misguided. Thank you body but let it know it's okay, you are safe. This is what her book is like. Just helps you not fight the anxiety and accept it. I am absolutely against anyone being on these drugs. The long term consequences are devastating and there is always the real possibility they will stop working and put you in full withdrawal. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 I am not completely against drugs… I understand they are not ideal and for sure are not my first choice however I am not going to live the rest of my life barely thriving just because I won’t go back on meds. That’s my personal take on it. I hope I don’t have to but I have felt depressed lately and have been having panic attacks. I am a wife and mom and I need to be able to survive and be a good wife and mom so If I have to go back on meds to do that, I will. I really want to believe this is withdrawal but how long till it’s done? I’m still not sleeping amazing and I get really tired of my sleep being so unpredictable. I am sleeping lots better than I was though so I’m thankful for that!! fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 @ElaineM it can take months to years. There is no easy answer and reinstating more or another drug could result in a worse situation. Please watch this program from the BBC https://rumble.com/v2wlt7g-the-antidepressant-story-bbc-panorama-documentary.html If you still want to try different meds you will have to discuss that with your dr. 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 Is depressions and feeling down a withdrawal symptom. I’m am dealing with that a lot. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 @ElaineM this link takes you to a list of symptoms. The simple answer is yes https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1779-using-dr-glenmullens-checklist-to-track-symptom-patterns-and-progress/?do=findComment&comment=2379 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 @ElaineM how has your sleep been? Did you increase or decrease your dosage? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 no I didn’t change my dosage. My sleep has not been the best. Partly due to going off the meds and partly due to my daughter who wakes me up🙈 as well as some anxiety I have been dealing with. Sometimes I will struggle to sleep and finally fall asleep and my daughter will wake me up, or I will be having a good night, and she wakes me up and then I can’t go back to sleep. It’s a vicious cycle. How has your sleep been? fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 @ElaineM our first girl slept so well. The second one was up every couple hours till she was 4... So hopefully number 2 for you will be amazing. No change here for my sleep, awake every hour or two but I usually can fall back to sleep so that makes a world of difference. Sleep was never an issue for me till the dr or pharmacy gave me the wrong prescription about 7 years ago and then withdrawal made it worse. Hopefully one day... 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 having a a terrible terrible wave of insomnia😭😭 I get so anxious in the night and panic….I feel the insomnia is partly due to going off of meds and partly due to panic. Finally falling alsleep at like 5 am😭 I’m so done😭😭 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 I’m scared my body is now just going to think it’s not time to go to sleep till 5. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 @ElaineM don't overthink the 5 a.m. thing. Did you overdo it yesterday? If I do to much it activates me and affects my sleep. Winding down at the same time every night really does help. Try to talk to the anxiety...it can't hurt you, it's adrenaline overproduction. Tell yourself you are safe. Fighting it increases it. Try to deep breathe. Have you read some CBT? I know it is very hard. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 I’ve been pretty much sleeping bad for over a week and the last three nights have been awful. Like basically 5 or 6 every night(we’ll actually morning) so not just one night. what do you mean by CBT? I’ve tried some breathing, took a bath in the middle of the night…not much works… fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 CBT is cognitive behavioral therapy. You can usually find free courses on line provided by government mental health services. It is a way of reworking thinking patterns. Catching the patterns of catastrophisizing, negative thinking, etc. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Ok thank you! 1 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 https://cogbtherapy.com/free-online-cbt-workbook Just did a quick search and found this one. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Someone was asking me about going off of drugs. I was going to refer them to this sight but see you aren’t accepting new members currently. What should I tell them so they hopefully don’t suffer from withdrawal? fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 @ElaineM definitely tell them about the site. The can still navigate the website and learn about tapering. Do you know which drug? They can do searches on the specific drugs and tips for tapering off it. Also they can find coping techniques and self care suggestions. 👍 How are you making out? When is baby due? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 I actually ended up finding the info on tapering and wow it’s a treasure trove!! Baby is due in January so thankful for that extra healing time. Doing ok. I upped my melatonin to 6mg and that’s seems to be helping at night. I maybe don’t always sleep batter but I stay calmer. Not sure if that’s the melatonin or something else i’m trying. I don’t really want to take melatonin long term because I know it’s not the best but sometime I’m just not sure what to do. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 @ElaineM melatonin isn't addictive and since the body naturally makes it, it is pretty benign. ADs affect our ability to make it so glad the supplement of it is helping. Sometimes doing research for others helps us even more. ♥️ 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Well I’ve heard things like your body gets used to you taking it so won’t produce it as well but I also decided it is better than meds and I do need sleep. Also random question but what does AD stand for😅🤨 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Antidepressants=AD 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 haha that makes sense😆 not sure why I didn’t think of that😅😂 1 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Maybe AD’s do affect ability to sleep but I slept amazing when I was on one most the time!! fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 @ElaineMI did as well until the pharmacy gave me the wrong prescription. Zoloft instead of Paxil...same shape and color. That was the end of sleep as I knew it. Some are definitely worse than others but withdrawal of the ADs seems to affect sleep negatively for the majority. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 aww that’s so frustrating. sorry😢 fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 Do you think pregnancy could have made this whole sleep thing a lot worse? Since you can deal with insomnia in pregnancy anyway? I have been sleeping awful. In some ways my sleeping has improved but it is still reallllly bad. One night I only got like 15 min. And the other night I didn’t fall asleep till 7 something in the morning. I have almost been off 8 months and am so ready for change. the extra melatonin does not seem to be helping anymore. that is kinda how it is with everything. it helps for awhile and then not as well, or maybe it’s just the waves🤷🏻♀️ fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Definitely pregnancy can do this but I am sure withdrawal isn't helping. I just want some of that precious sleep too but you really need it. ♥️ 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 Aww yes…I was just wondering if they are maybe going hand in hand to make my case worse than it would have been. In reality I am came off of one of the “easier” meds to come off of so I just get really discouraged when it is still so bad so many months later. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 And your dose was insanely high so I think you are doing well. But all said it doesn't make it easier. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
ElaineM Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 Hello, I was struggling with sleep again especially for vacations. I get so anxious about getting sleep that I can’t sleep, so my midwife prescribed hydroxyzine to help with anxiety and sleep (only to take as needed). I took it a total of 3 nights. This morning I woke up and have had a cold. I had some mucous stuck in my throat. I had a total panic attack even after the mucous was gone. I now can’t sleep (next night) because of panicking over really nothing. I feel claustrophobic and am so anxious. I felt like I was trapped in my own body. so so weird. I’m so worried I started another phobia to worry about. Could it be because of the new med I tried?! I certainly don’t want to take it again. It didn’t really help anyway. I don’t know if I have ever felt sicker. I am absolutely exhausted and can’t sleep due to anxiety. I have a baby due end of January and am at a complete loss of what to do because I feel awful. fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment
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