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ADMIN NOTE jamesbond747 Introductions topic.


 

Please let me know what changes I can make to this post so it doesnot get removed as I am back here after 5 long years and wish to help others on this path.


My story- 
I remember I used to have anxiety and some low confidence issues since I was 10 years old in year 2005.
These issues spiralled down into very low mood, depression and schizophrenia when I turned 19 years old. I am now 28 years old.

 

Tldr of my previous post on this website 5 years back-
I had severe depression issues since 2014 which psychiatrists tried to treat by putting me on all sorts of antidepressants ( risperidone, clonazepam, aripripazolam, etc). I ran away from home, came back weeks later. I used to cold turkey many times many drugs (dont do it without supervision/advise) because of how they made me feel, only to be put back on another type of antidepressant amd the cycle continued. I was miserable, had given up on life due to no way out of depression. I became suicidal.


I looked up on Internet for hope.
Google led me to this website after heavy searching and using vpn too as this website doesnt show up in simple search.
I simply cant imagine the troubles common people have to take to reach this website due to flawed google SEO.


I found some relief here as I chatted with like minded people and moderators. 
I tried many subreddits too but almost all dont allow newbie to post content or comment without karma and I didnt get karma after trying useless advises given on many websites. (sigh! life is so hard when one is desperate and websites like reddit make it harder). I was low on karma for 1 year which didnt allow me to discuss my problems with others.


Back to 2020, I was put in psych ward as things went more out of control. Greatfully, I was put on abilify and parkin. Other antidepressants were cold turkeyed by my psychiatrist in the ward.
Now cold turkey was a very bad thing, it gave me ptsd for 3 months (alll those windows and waves 😵‍💫) which looked like eternity.


I was out of psych ward after 10 months. I had to follow up for 2 more months.
They did not release me because I had recovered. It was because I had turned somewhat stable. I turned stable because I saw people like me there, I learned what was making them worse and what was improving them which caused their early release. Basically all I learnt there was self control and behaviour control.
Deep inside I was still feeling miserable and depressed but learnt to hide them in psych ward.


Now in may 2022 I took a linking to abilify as it didnot have any side effects other than weight gain, sleepiness amd high blood pressure. Same was confirmed by reviews on drugs.com and other user feedback websites. I took it whenever I felt stressed to induce heavy sleep and avoid any work. After 1 month of abilify usage and parkin discontinuing, I noticed my depression was very low which allowed me to look things from different perspective. For first time in my life I actually started enjoying doing things.


I started little exercising and doing physical household work without any irritation. I got a wfh customer service job.
After 8 months of usage, the weight gain was becoming strong and my physcial health was suffering even though my mental health was okay.
I could not do any exercise due to 10 kg weight gain and very high blood pressure in 5 months.


I had to stop abilify in january 2023.
By now I had good understanding of what depression is, its like I developed a bonding to depression, I could smell when I had slightest amount of depression.
I wanted to get rid of it and antidepressant cycles too.


I quit amazon job in february as weight gain and intolerance to simple exercises was a severe disability.
In my job exeperience I interacted with american people, I learnt their culture, their problems. I saw the supplement industry which was booming there, the people who were madly health conscioua. People were buying absurdly high priced health supplements and drugs to boost their mental and physical health. They would justify to me how good it made them feel, the teenagers, the adults, the old alike.


In february 2023 I started supplementing.
By november 2023, I have a deep feeling I have got rid of depression from roots ( I can still smell slightest depression in me or other people) and now I am on a road to physical health boosting in a natural way.

I ran 4 kilometre in one go a week back and wish to reach 14 kilometre target as I am still 28 years old.

Today my family dont have slightest smell of depression from me and I am trying to healthify them too.


I dont know why no one helped me by informing the amount of natural vitamins and minerals, their types and their dosage on this website. Its just not mentioned in any post too. It seems this website helps in suviving ADs and not staying afloat after surviving. 


Here are some vitamins and minerals which you can take to stay afloat after surviving antideppressants. You can choose what you like, company/brand as for some hairfall maybe cause of depression, for some body dysmorphia, for some eating disorder, for some anxiety, etc. Please get your blood tests done and discuss with your physician/healthcare provider before taking them-( Please take these after you have left all antidepressants as ADs will surely react with these supplements, another advise which I didn't get🫠)


1- For general stamina- I tried simple multivitamin containing simple low amounts of nutrients once a day or every 3rd day. ( Avoid shilajit, ashwagandha, etc unless none others are available as they disbalance magnesium, iron and hormones in body, My recommendation- centrum men has vitamins and minerals in low amounts so it can be digested by weak gi people but it has high amounts of vitamin a and d so better not take any other vitamin a and vitamin d source that day or if you are allergic to any ingredients.)
2- For skin- decent fish oil capsule once a day or once a week.
3- For hair- biotin 5 or 10 mg per day or per week.
4- For eyes- I tried AREDS 2 website on google. All Areds 2 supplements did was improve my vision by 0.5 points only, I was hoping for more. I stopped them as I saw a small note that areds2 causes lung cancer in 0.5% users.
5- For blood pressure- I took magnesium taurate, one or two tablet per day, I also took one or two vitamin k2mk7 per day.
6- For protein- I took Optimum nutrition 10gram or 22 gram per day.
7- For creatine- I tried 3 gram per day of ON but stopped as I am not ready for it yet.
8- For immediate depression uplifting- I took 1 or 2 magnesium threonate per day. Its temporary fix for depression lasting 24 hours. 
9- For physical strength- I have joined iron protocol and copper protocol facebook groups- I take 30mg liposomal iron(irregulaarly), 1000mcg vitamin b12( regularly), 1mg copper(irregularly) and 15mg zinc(irregularly). I take them because my blood tests showed me deficient in them all. So consult with a physician first as you may not be deficient in all. 
10- For sexual health- I take 100mg thiamine or 3mg/6mg tablets of boron once a week. I read good reviews for them and I can confirm they work. 
11- Vitamin d- Avoid it unless you have a severe deficiency as you will already get it from a multivitamin tablet.


Some subreddits for your recovery journey which I dont know why this website doesnot inform about. 
People should have knowledge of path which they have to walk otherwise it would be like throwing darts in dark. (Some will become lucky but many not)-
1- r/antipsychiatry (common people there are like common people on this website)
2- r/supplements ( dont pay attention to every advise many are rookies)
3- r/mentalhealth 
4- r/mentalillness
5- r/magnesium
6-  r/nutrition
7- r/psychiatry
8- r/schizophrenia
9- r/depression


My advise on how to be able to post and discuss on subreddits for non tech newcomer people with low karma.
Just follow all major subreddits of your country. First start giving positive flattering comments to responsive commentors amd original posters. You earned comment karma this way. Now post advise or help issue topics in subreddits which receive active replies. You earned post karma this way. 
I dont know why these websites tell to post good quality original content like some professional celebrity on subreddits for karma when a newcomer is unable to do this.


I ommitted bluelight.org as in my opinion that website is just a group of drug addicts trying all sorts of drugs for whatever foolish reasons.


Thankyou for going through my post, any feedback and advise is highly welcome from everyone here. 🙂


 

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23rd april2018- 26th april2018-risperdal 1mg

27th october2018- 31st february 2021- clonazepam 0.5mg per day

March 2021- February 2022- Abilify 10mg or 20mg per day

+ few other antidepressants i recheck and write names

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  • Altostrata changed the title to jamebond747 My road to recovery from antidepressants (2019 to 2023)
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On 11/11/2023 at 5:13 PM, jamesbond747 said:

ADMIN NOTE jamesbond747 Introductions topic.


( Avoid shilajit, ashwagandha, etc unless none others are available as they disbalance magnesium, iron and hormones in body, My recommendation- centrum men has vitamins and minerals in low amounts so it can be digested by weak gi people but it has high amounts of vitamin a and d so better not take any other vitamin a and vitamin d source that day or if you are allergic to any ingredients.)
 

Hi there I was wondering what your experience of Shilajit is?  I took two doses of 200mg last Thursday and Friday and its triggered the worst wave I've been in for a long time.  I'm so glad you're recovering in your journey :) 

  • August 2004:  Citalopram 20mg for "postnatal anxiety".  
  • May-Sept 2011:  Adverse reaction to the contraceptive pill, causing severe anxiety and panic.  Was switched from 7 years on Citalopram to Lofepramine briefly, then Mirtazapine 30mg.  Was an anxious, depressed, suicidal wreck and got misdiagnosed with GAD by a psychiatrist.  I now realise my symptoms were all medication related, as opposed to so-called psychiatric diagnosis.
  • October 2011:  Pregabalin 450mg and propranolol 40mg TID added by psychiatrist. 
  • Feb 2013: Tapered off pregabalin 450mg; stopped propranolol.
  • July 2013: Switched from Mirtazapine 30mg to Cipralex 10mg in a two-week cross titration, which caused horrific withdrawal symptoms lasting months.
  • April 2015: Increased to 15mg Cipralex. 
  • 2017:  Was treated by a clinical psychologist for medication-related trauma and slowly tapered down to 2mg Cipralex over the next four years. 
  • December 2021: Switched from Cipralex tablets to drops to facilitate further tapering; this caused withdrawal reaction lasting approx 6 weeks. 
  • May 2022: Experienced severe withdrawal reaction after inadvertently taking expired drops.  
  • 3rd June 2022: Reinstated 2mg Cipralex drops. Stabilisation hindered by drinking alcohol socially; didn't realise impact of this. Nil alcohol since September 2022.
  • Supplements: Cycling Magnesium, Omega 3, Evening Primrose, Vitamin D3, Vitamin C, Vitamin B Complex, Zinc, Ashwagandha, Sage.  Had been taking these prior to withdrawal incident.
  • Feb 2023:  Relatively stable and aiming to hold on 2mg Cipralex and with a view to tapering down in 2024.  Tapered off Ashwagandha.
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Shilajit etc are great but not when I was on antidepressants as they aggravated the symptoms.

When I was not on antideppressants, it feels good to tale them and personally I would recommend to take them when not on anti depressants.

23rd april2018- 26th april2018-risperdal 1mg

27th october2018- 31st february 2021- clonazepam 0.5mg per day

March 2021- February 2022- Abilify 10mg or 20mg per day

+ few other antidepressants i recheck and write names

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Hello @jamesbond747are you recovered?

 

01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg.

•01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come)
•15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg

01/08/23 - 05/08/23.  75x50mg

06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 

24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg.

1/12/22- ongoing  2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4  times double dose  )

15/01/24 -  ongoing occasional 5mg  diazepam for anxiety.


 

 

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Yes, I recovered from antidepressant withdrawal.

But currently I am at 80% mental strength and 50% physical strength from what I used to be before starting antidepressants.

After strting antidepressants, my mental and physical strength baselined at 10%.

It seems antidepressants take a toll on health.

 

I believe I will be at my 100% by 2024 end as I am learnt a lot from my mistakes and people on this website. 🙂

 

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23rd april2018- 26th april2018-risperdal 1mg

27th october2018- 31st february 2021- clonazepam 0.5mg per day

March 2021- February 2022- Abilify 10mg or 20mg per day

+ few other antidepressants i recheck and write names

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