Barbarannamated Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Barb, A while back I read somewhere, but I don't know where, that akathisia can manifest as an overwhelming urge to drive around or other forms of travel. When I read it I thought about how earlier on in withdrawal, you got in your car and started driving. Does this current urge to keep relocating feel at all the same? Petu. Petu, It does feel somewhat similar although in early withdrawal, I did not have the dread, despair and SI. I'd say I was more hypomanic and fearless, thinking I was finally escaping my home situation and marriage. Now, I'm filled with fear and anxiety....trying to find *home*. After I'm away for a short time, I get terribly homesick and feel like I need to be with husband even though we have a terrible relationship. He's all I really have. Relationships with father (87) and sister (54, drug addict) are very fractured. I am VERY afraid of how I'll react when my father passes. Severe existential crisis plus akathisia..? Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia#Drug-Induced trazodone is on the list of drugs that can cause akathisia .. I was surprised by the list of drugs that can cause it. ntipsychotics[24]Haloperidol (Haldol), droperidol, pimozide, trifluoperazine, amisulpride, risperidone, aripiprazole (Abilify), lurasidone (Latuda), ziprasidone and asenapine(Saphris) SSRIs[25]Fluoxetine (Prozac),[25] paroxetine (Paxil),[7] citalopram (Celexa) Antidepressants Venlafaxine (Effexor), tricyclics, and trazodone (Desyrel) Anti-emetics Metoclopramide (Reglan), prochlorperazine (Compazine), and promethazine Antihistamines Cyproheptadine (Periactin) or diphenhydramine (Benadryl) — this is more commonly seen at very high doses Drug withdrawal Opioid withdrawal, barbiturates withdrawal, cocaine withdrawal Serotonin Syndrome Harmful combinations of psychotropic drugs Especially antihistamines... explains a lot for me. Not sure it is at all helpful to you but thought it may be worth something. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted July 1, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 1, 2014 Severe existential crisis plus akathisia..? I don't know, akathisia is a physical sensation, like a constant, overwhelming drive towards movement of some kind. Like an inner pressure and turmoil that needs to be released, but there are no related thoughts or circumstances. If you are motivated by thoughts of trying to find somewhere that feels like home, then perhaps its not akathisia, but rather the existential crisis. I wish I had something helpful to write, I'm having a similar crisis with life, finding myself alone, looking back on my life and realizing just how ridiculous and meaningless its all been. Years of wasted energy, running around trying to reach some idealized point or situation which ultimately has evaporated into nothing more than each passing experience, most of them unpleasant. I was also in a damaging marriage and thought escaping would be the solution to all my problems, but it wasn't. I've got the FOO dysfunctional background too, the absence of real connection, but the fear of losing them anyway. You know that saying "home is where the heart is", I've always thought that meant home is the place where people we love live. But I just figured out what it really means. Home is found within our own heart, we will feel at home (safe) in the world when we know our own heart to be the source of love, we come home when we love and accept ourselves. Some people are lucky in that they are born into emotionally healthy families and develop an inner sense of value and self love. Home gets carried around where ever they go, like a little jewel in the center of their heart. I've spent most of my life running around looking for my little heart jewel out there, never found it of course. (hugs) I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Really that is what it means... I still think it means if your with people you love or things or places what makes you heart full of love that is home. How odd there are so many takes on this. Words are so interesting. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarannamated Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Not sure where to post this... Learned recently that the sister in law I mentioned previously (her home is my escape) is moving from CA to Texas. I'm not handling this well at all. Last summer, my closest friend moved from CA to the east coast and her absence has really negatively impacted me. Now this loss... Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I am sorry to hear this Barb. I know your struggling with social issues as well as others. This is as good as any other place to put it. I was thinking of you today when I was watching a tv show on the cbc... http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/features/background-nitrosamines it is about brains and how nitrosamines... there is that word again amines... One bit on the show I watched tho I don't see it on the linked page was an inhalable insulin treatment... the reason is the brain is deprived of insulin in the state of insulin resistance neurons die. Since it has been suggested ssri drugs cause insulin resistance generally this third type affecting the brain is not a far jump if you feel like jumping. The insulin inhaler should be out soon according to the show. Given you family history of dementia I thought this may be interesting to you. I know this does not help with your friend moving but maybe it will be something to read and offer you a bit of distraction. I wish you peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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