Broken Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Usually praying helps me sleep, never seem to be able to get to the end before I nod off. Last 2 nights can't seem to switch off though, 2.20am and I'm still up. Went to bed at 10.30pm, kept waking my wife up so decided to sleep on the couch. Did you ever check out the headspace app? December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist. Link to comment
wantrelief Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So sorry to hear you are having a bad day, JDM. Hoping tomorrow is better for you. -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yes, JDM. One night of decent sleep, but I will take what I can get. Last night not as good, but better than in the beginning, before we turned the salt lamp off at night. The absence of that light has made quite a difference. Didn't bother me before WD. Still keeping you in my prayers. Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 So, I just told my Mom I love her and she didn't reply, and I asked why and she said she wanted to tell me when it means something and not placate me... I'm beginning to think she is a very messed up person, even more than I already suspected. Maybe Im overly emotional, but I think what she just said is mean....and even more so, a bit bizarre coming from a mother to a child. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yes, JDM. One night of decent sleep, but I will take what I can get. Last night not as good, but better than in the beginning, before we turned the salt lamp off at night. The absence of that light has made quite a difference. Didn't bother me before WD. Still keeping you in my prayers. Thx for prayers. You are always in mine. I'm not surprised about the salt lamp. The light, even just a little bit was prob not helping. I assume it's like a night light in terms of how bright it is, and I know that would keep me up. ;( 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Usually praying helps me sleep, never seem to be able to get to the end before I nod off. Last 2 nights can't seem to switch off though, 2.20am and I'm still up. Went to bed at 10.30pm, kept waking my wife up so decided to sleep on the couch. Did you ever check out the headspace app? I'm actually sleeping a bit better, thank God! I'm just depressed and out of it and blah, blah, blah.... Same crap diff day. I had intended to try the app and was so delirious during that time I forgot, I need to look at it. thx for the reminder. Sorry you had to sleep on the couch. I just want to get better I'm sooooo tired of this! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I burn and it hurts, amoung many other things, but this hurts. It changes forms too, sometimes like Vick's vapor rub, sometimes like deep electrical burning in my muscles. When it is bad, it's on my face and in my sinuses. It hurts. No other way to put it. ????I get all these sensations, too. I am sorry, but I believe there is more for us than pain. We just have to give ourselves time to heal. I hate the sensations!! They suck! I guess we all have them. They are really awful and If I get stressed I feel like I'm on fire! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yes... Same here... Sometimes worse than others. Also itching (new) along with the burning... and muscle twitches. In the last 12 hours, I have had all the above. I hate it as well, and would love for it to end. I'm so sorry we're all going through this, JDM. Rest assured--you're not alone [/quote I know frustrated said she has it too, and Wiggle, it's awful!!! I have the itching too sometimes. I'm not sure if I have dry skin or what? Sorry you have it too. Crappy. No other word to describe it. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yep! Crappy! Worse some times than others. Sometimes barely noticeable. Funny I had these same sensations during the worst of my TM, but I don't remember it bothering me this much:( Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So, I just told my Mom I love her and she didn't reply, and I asked why and she said she wanted to tell me when it means something and not placate me... I'm beginning to think she is a very messed up person, even more than I already suspected. Maybe Im overly emotional, but I think what she just said is mean....and even more so, a bit bizarre coming from a mother to a child. very bizarre! I have a bizarre mother too. I love ya! Hugs x 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 So, I just told my Mom I love her and she didn't reply, and I asked why and she said she wanted to tell me when it means something and not placate me... I'm beginning to think she is a very messed up person, even more than I already suspected. Maybe Im overly emotional, but I think what she just said is mean....and even more so, a bit bizarre coming from a mother to a child. very bizarre! I have a bizarre mother too. I love ya! Hugs x Lol!!! I love ya too!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one with a strange mother. Good grief. She's a weirdo. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That does sound strange, JDM Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 That does sound strange, JDM Ya, it was pretty hurtful. She's bizzare. I love her very much, but she is obviously messed up. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
direstraits Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my mom wasn't emotionally available either-sorry she said that to you... went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 my mom wasn't emotionally available either-sorry she said that to you... Thanks. It's pretty crappy. I'm sorry your mother was that way too. Sad. More than anything, I just found it to be a completely bizarre statement. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 It is bizarre! Sending healing thoughts to you xx 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 It is bizarre! Sending healing thoughts to you xx Lol!! I thought it was!! Weird. For a moment, I thought I was overly emotional, and then I realized, no, that was just... Off. Thx for the encouragement. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 "when it means something and not placate me..." If she feels people have been saying those words to her all her life and not meaning them ....just saying them cause she did or because it was expected of them as an obligation because she said it first... Then this response is understandable..you could ask:) . society has changed very quickly from one generation to the next and I found I completely understood my mother when I studied the times she lived in and talked to her a lot about it... so much of what I had in my head was so dead wrong... my eyes and heart were both opened wide... sadly the time we did this was when I was caring for her as she went thru cancer treatment as it seemed we never spent so much time together since I was an adult... always so busy too busy. It is funny what waiting forever at doctor and treatment apts can open up... and long talks in bed at night. It is very special to me still... I took a course in woman studies once just out of interest and talked to her about things that went on in history as she was there for it.. so very cool to understand the reasoning of the one who gave you birth.. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 "when it means something and not placate me..." If she feels people have been saying those words to her all her life and not meaning them ....just saying them cause she did or because it was expected of them as an obligation because she said it first... Then this response is understandable..you could ask:) . society has changed very quickly from one generation to the next and I found I completely understood my mother when I studied the times she lived in and talked to her a lot about it... so much of what I had in my head was so dead wrong... my eyes and heart were both opened wide... sadly the time we did this was when I was caring for her as she went thru cancer treatment as it seemed we never spent so much time together since I was an adult... always so busy too busy. It is funny what waiting forever at doctor and treatment apts can open up... and long talks in bed at night. It is very special to me still... I took a course in woman studies once just out of interest and talked to her about things that went on in history as she was there for it.. so very cool to understand the reasoning of the one who gave you birth.. I see your point, maybe it's sometrhing like that. But, given her behavior all of my life, I think she's just a bit off. Lol Thx for stopping by btdt, always nice to hear from you. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well, here we are again. Groundhog Day. I'm afraid that this really is not going to end. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 No one is ever going to believe any of this happened. Even if they look at this site, we all just look like a bunch of crazy people. No one will believe this, and makes me angry, but it's true. I look like a walking DSM multiple diagnosis. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Groundhog day. Exactly! Everyday repeating in an endless loop. Good analogy. 2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale..6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th).4mg(April 27th).2 (June 27th) 0mg. done taper at beginning of August. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Groundhog day. Exactly! Everyday repeating in an endless loop. Good analogy. Someone used it on Luv's thread and I thought....uh ya! That is it!!!! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 "when it means something and not placate me..." If she feels people have been saying those words to her all her life and not meaning them ....just saying them cause she did or because it was expected of them as an obligation because she said it first... Then this response is understandable..you could ask:) . society has changed very quickly from one generation to the next and I found I completely understood my mother when I studied the times she lived in and talked to her a lot about it... so much of what I had in my head was so dead wrong... my eyes and heart were both opened wide... sadly the time we did this was when I was caring for her as she went thru cancer treatment as it seemed we never spent so much time together since I was an adult... always so busy too busy. It is funny what waiting forever at doctor and treatment apts can open up... and long talks in bed at night. It is very special to me still... I took a course in woman studies once just out of interest and talked to her about things that went on in history as she was there for it.. so very cool to understand the reasoning of the one who gave you birth.. I see your point, maybe it's sometrhing like that. But, given her behavior all of my life, I think she's just a bit off. Lol Thx for stopping by btdt, always nice to hear from you. I never said my Mom was not a bit off ... but with explanation it was nice to understand her finally. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well, here we are again. Groundhog Day. I'm afraid that this really is not going to end. It seems to go that way ...dx on top of dx till they hand out the biggy ptsd.. which is a label that contains all the others is how I see it. Happy Groundhog Day to you... I have considered it that it does not end many times and for the most part much of it has ended... when I was thinking about it... I thought how can I adapt things to make this more livable just in case. That caused some changes and a focus shift that helped me arrange things differently in my life. Seeking things to make it better to shift the day just slightly into something more tolerable for me personally. Now as I say that I find myself here doing the same thing when I said to myself today I would get back to basics and take a walk... so on that happy note I am going for a walk. peace all. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 PTSD--Yes, how could we not have that after going through this nightmare?! Hoping we can all get some degree of relief soon! Prayers, as always! Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 PTSD--Yes, how could we not have that after going through this nightmare?! Hoping we can all get some degree of relief soon! Prayers, as always! Ptsd! I already have it! Can't wait to see what a basketcase I am after this!! Maybe it will make me stronger... That is my hope! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well, here we are again. Groundhog Day. I'm afraid that this really is not going to end. It seems to go that way ...dx on top of dx till they hand out the biggy ptsd.. which is a label that contains all the others is how I see it. Happy Groundhog Day to you... I have considered it that it does not end many times and for the most part much of it has ended... when I was thinking about it... I thought how can I adapt things to make this more livable just in case. That caused some changes and a focus shift that helped me arrange things differently in my life. Seeking things to make it better to shift the day just slightly into something more tolerable for me personally. Now as I say that I find myself here doing the same thing when I said to myself today I would get back to basics and take a walk... so on that happy note I am going for a walk. peace all. Do you still feel like you are in WD? Or, you are dealing with health issues caused by WD? I sure as hell hope you're not in WD this far out!!!! Yes, take a walk. The sun is out here for the first time in a almost a week. I'm going on a drive. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ok... List of Improvements: I was able to use a face scrub that I had given up this summer, it turned out ok. Sleep is a bit improved I'm not having to shower as many times as I was. I had been in the shower 5-6 times a day to get warm. Somedays, I only take 1 shower now. So my body temp seems to be better I have driven myself to therapy 2x. For a while, I had to do therapy over the phone. I have taken drives in the mountains and country alone...sometimes for a couple of hours. I have stayed at home alone for a couple of hours several times. I am adding to my foods list. I am working on green beans right now. I have cleaned my room, and picked up after myself more, and washed the dog etc. I can watch TV for a while, as long as it's not the news. I can tolerate the news, but only in small doses. I am not quite as "speedy" as I have been. It seems to have diminished a bit. I had one day where I met my Dad and his wife for lunch, drove to Walgreens and drove to Whole Foods to pick up things I needed. I did all of this alone. I also had another day where I stopped at the grocery store on the way back from a drive I went on. Again, I was all by myself. I'm writing all of this to CONVINCE myself things will get better. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 It is great to keep track of things. I made sure to note my leg pain window because I knew when when my legs started paining again I would be back in my funk. And sure enough I am back in my funk. Lol. Any little improvement gives hope. We need hope. 2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale..6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th).4mg(April 27th).2 (June 27th) 0mg. done taper at beginning of August. Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Yes, my handwritten journal tells me a lot! I try to make myself write in it every day regardless of how I feel. Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ya, I try to do these updates every couple months. I think my last one was Nov/Dec. I keep a journal of symptoms too. It's helpful, especially for spotting reactions to food. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, here we are again. Groundhog Day. I'm afraid that this really is not going to end. It seems to go that way ...dx on top of dx till they hand out the biggy ptsd.. which is a label that contains all the others is how I see it.Happy Groundhog Day to you... I have considered it that it does not end many times and for the most part much of it has ended... when I was thinking about it... I thought how can I adapt things to make this more livable just in case. That caused some changes and a focus shift that helped me arrange things differently in my life. Seeking things to make it better to shift the day just slightly into something more tolerable for me personally. Now as I say that I find myself here doing the same thing when I said to myself today I would get back to basics and take a walk... so on that happy note I am going for a walk. peace all. Do you still feel like you are in WD? Or, you are dealing with health issues caused by WD? I sure as hell hope you're not in WD this far out!!!! Yes, take a walk. The sun is out here for the first time in a almost a week. I'm going on a drive. I have what seem like withdrawal like issue lately and for the last couple of years since I had a car accident... I thought it was the pain pills maybe or the crash its self or maybe I had a concussion as I don't recall the accident so was out for a bit at least. It could be a combination of all those things is what I have thought to be most likely... it is not like the withdrawal your in now. The first few months after the accident were like that tho... like early withdrawal very much like it. Here is the thing I had broken rib was not noticed I ended up with pneumonia ... swelling my lung could not expand. They gave me a drug like levaquin... I just read today about a guy going back into withdrawal from a drug in that family. I knew I had to get off it too as I had very bad physical side effects any head side effects I would have blamed on the accident. Not only that but after that drug wrecked my gut I was put on an acid reducer an H2 blocker that messes with dopamine and then I became suicidal... thankfully I know drug reactions had enough of them.. so I pegged it right away. I think I was doing betting in 2012 before that accident then i am doing now. I know it sounds bad but that is how it seems and feels to me. I can't judge just now how much the health problems are making things murky as I have had many illnesses this last year the year before was not so hot either as I had to have a surgery just to make it all worse. Whatever is wrong with me just now that causes the flu symptoms to come an go put me back into what would be described as DR that is what it feels like a lot... I am not sure if there is something else going on liver maybe.. low sodium can turn a person into a nutter... I hear. I just can't tell JD I know I am not normal I have pain what is the cause... after years of wd pain that never did end I can't say... not for sure for all the pain. did I just make it worse are you more confused... sorry if I messed this up I will try to answer...again I am not sure. sometimes it feels exactly like some withdrawal experiences sometimes it feels different than that but not good... I was better than this bf the accident but I was better and got worse bf the accident too can't say what causes what if you know what I mean... now I am confused... I wish I knew either way it is not usually the sort of wd you feel now. It is different. when I get clear headed I will try again. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 There are some improvements . Please if you can, can you post more sweet doggy pics xx <3 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
luv2knit Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 btdt, if you were indeed on a drug in the fluoroquinolone family, they can cause permanent problems. The damage does not go away once off the drug. If the symptoms are different from withdrawal, perhaps this is the issue(?) Just a few pills have caused severe damage to some Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, here we are again. Groundhog Day. I'm afraid that this really is not going to end. It seems to go that way ...dx on top of dx till they hand out the biggy ptsd.. which is a label that contains all the others is how I see it.Happy Groundhog Day to you... I have considered it that it does not end many times and for the most part much of it has ended... when I was thinking about it... I thought how can I adapt things to make this more livable just in case. That caused some changes and a focus shift that helped me arrange things differently in my life. Seeking things to make it better to shift the day just slightly into something more tolerable for me personally. Now as I say that I find myself here doing the same thing when I said to myself today I would get back to basics and take a walk... so on that happy note I am going for a walk. peace all. Do you still feel like you are in WD? Or, you are dealing with health issues caused by WD? I sure as hell hope you're not in WD this far out!!!! Yes, take a walk. The sun is out here for the first time in a almost a week. I'm going on a drive. I have what seem like withdrawal like issue lately and for the last couple of years since I had a car accident... I thought it was the pain pills maybe or the crash its self or maybe I had a concussion as I don't recall the accident so was out for a bit at least. It could be a combination of all those things is what I have thought to be most likely... it is not like the withdrawal your in now. The first few months after the accident were like that tho... like early withdrawal very much like it. Here is the thing I had broken rib was not noticed I ended up with pneumonia ... swelling my lung could not expand. They gave me a drug like levaquin... I just read today about a guy going back into withdrawal from a drug in that family. I knew I had to get off it too as I had very bad physical side effects any head side effects I would have blamed on the accident. Not only that but after that drug wrecked my gut I was put on an acid reducer an H2 blocker that messes with dopamine and then I became suicidal... thankfully I know drug reactions had enough of them.. so I pegged it right away. I think I was doing betting in 2012 before that accident then i am doing now. I know it sounds bad but that is how it seems and feels to me. I can't judge just now how much the health problems are making things murky as I have had many illnesses this last year the year before was not so hot either as I had to have a surgery just to make it all worse. Whatever is wrong with me just now that causes the flu symptoms to come an go put me back into what would be described as DR that is what it feels like a lot... I am not sure if there is something else going on liver maybe.. low sodium can turn a person into a nutter... I hear. I just can't tell JD I know I am not normal I have pain what is the cause... after years of wd pain that never did end I can't say... not for sure for all the pain. did I just make it worse are you more confused... sorry if I messed this up I will try to answer...again I am not sure. sometimes it feels exactly like some withdrawal experiences sometimes it feels different than that but not good... I was better than this bf the accident but I was better and got worse bf the accident too can't say what causes what if you know what I mean... now I am confused... I wish I knew either way it is not usually the sort of wd you feel now. It is different. when I get clear headed I will try again. peace Here it is!!! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
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