Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted January 6, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 6, 2015 Awesome! 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
Ever Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 EXCELLENT! WOOT WOOT! :) Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 OK that's it for me. I just wrote Alldaisy a poem and my computer crashed out again and I lost it. It's too stressful and fills me with angst when I put a lot of work into it and it shot through like a blue arse fly. I can read posts but can't post myself because I can't squeeze into the letter box down the street. I'm keeping track of you all my friends and bet I've put this post in the wrong spot. My brain is a fig. I'll be back don't you worry, I need everyone of you, as I hope you need me. "Oh Lord, Please Don't Let me be Misunderstood". Roll on April when I will have saved enough for a new computer. Sheeee! The life of an unemployed single woman. As always ..... steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 6, 2015 Member Share Posted January 6, 2015 Steeley, What do you think is wrong with your computer? I may be able to help. There is a program that just uses your browser and not a super secret remote login that can allow someone to look at your computer and possibly fix it. Let me know if oyu you want to give it a shot. It might allow you to limp on a bit better till April comes. (I want a computer that automatically knows what I want to type and puts it in right...sigh) What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Crackle. crackle, hiss. hiss, crackle... This is Australia calling, crackle, crackle crackle, hiss. Trying to beat this computer at it's own game cackle, hiss, crackle.....I'm still here, and still feeling good. What's the meaning of this? Is this a another trick? The Joker again? I'm doing things, I'm different for a while. I haven't got that looks like all the fat of my face and cheeks is dribbling down my face look, like "The Scream", and little or no standard neuro freako stuff, just a smidge of mania and low level tinnitus. I'm at a point with this stuff any relief is good relief, and I no longer search heavily or overly for complete freedom, and am happy with every single positive that comes my way. I think I've paid me dues, as have us all. Je Suis Charlie Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Junior Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Je Suis Charlie Je suis Charlie - my friend Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode. Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life. Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009. Made me suicidal. Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d. Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009. Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise. There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/longing-for-life/id958423649 My book about my unsuccessful journey through IVF Link to comment
Ever Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Bloody excellent! Woot woot! Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'm limping along the pitch with this bloody computer, but limp I will. Je Suis my friends Junior and Ever, and my heart is broken. Once they start shooting the clowns I get a tidge cranky. steeley is back with a bomb for a computer. The computer is mightier than the sword. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 So glad your feeling a bit better, Steeley. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Thanks WinningThrough, hope it lasts a bit longer this is the longest window I have ever been in, and am so grateful. Just so I don't get myself into anymore trouble, when I said I had a bomb for a computer it was an unintended pun. Made me laugh though when I proof read my post, because my computer won't give me access to the 'edit' option. Boy, am I going to be ever vigilant about my posts until I can access the edit button. Hope everyone is travelling well and crystallising into success stories all of our own. Yay, us. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 11, 2015 Member Share Posted January 11, 2015 until I can access the edit button Just curious: I checked and you should have been able to access it, it was less than 1 hour between your 2 posts. Is the 'edit word' not clickable (cursor changes from a pointer to a hand) when you hover your mouse over it within the 1 hr timeframe? If it isn't lighting up, are you using Internet Explorer by any chance? I cannot check anymore, the mod edit button does not have an expiration date (so we can catch cuss words , like the 7 second delay in broadcasts.) I am looking for IE quirks. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hi Cymbalta, I was able to access 'edit' previously, but now when I click on 'edit' it shoots me to my original post (not an editable one), and so I hit 'advanced edit', think that's what it's called, and the post screen goes completely blank but with an ability to post. I thought I would be just posting a blank post but gave it a try and it sends my original post unedited. Can't use 'smilies' or any other stuff like font size, bold, italic, etc. They are all greyed out and not accessible. Hope this makes sense as my computer vocab. is sadly lacking. Thanks again for all of your help. steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 So good to hear you are feeling better. Hope it continues! Mirt buddy 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Thanks my Mirt buddy and Songbird too. This must be a dream, I'm not counting my chickens and fear the Jester will return, but pray that this is a real breakthrough for me. Oh yay, oh yay. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Micromonster Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 She's alive! In the voice of the Frankensteins master....forgotten his name... paroxatine.30mg-98-14 (16years)/15mg March 14/15mg may 2014 every two days on docs advice, went nuts so went up to 10mg. Took 2months to stabilise.10mg July 2014-sept 2014 (6.9mg)tried WD at 10% every two weeks. went nuts, nearly left husband, cats and country.10mg sept-December 14/9mg Dec-Jan 15/8.5mg Jan-Feb 15/8mg Feb-March 15/7.5mg march 15/7mg march-present. By October, off meds and on ivf. 3 failed ivf and end of 11yr relationship.10mg/July 16- July 17/5mg Jan 18- july 18 0mg july- present. Really struggling Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted January 11, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2015 Enjoy your window, it's a sign of more to come. 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 12, 2015 Member Share Posted January 12, 2015 Steeley, If you are using Internet Explorer, that might be contributing to the problem. Some people using IE (and me when I try to use it) cannot quote posts. If your comp is not playing nice, that may also be affecting it too. It may be making you screen do a lot of weird things, like blanking out parts of the posting window. Alto is still checking things out as far as I know. Hang in there and just post what you can and enjoy your window! What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
alaskamom Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ???????????????? be happy for all of us! Paula 1998- Began taking 20 mg. of Paxil for homesickness 2001-CT and crash/hospitalized 1 week for anxiety. Tried quitting, changing to other ADs, gave up. 2014 -Weaned @ 10% every 4 weeks. Latest 5-14 11.7 mg., 6-14 10.5 mg., 8-21 9.5 mg., 9-17 7.7 mg.,10-14 6.9 mg., 11-14 6.2 mg., 12-14 5.6 mg., 1-15 5.0 mg. 2-15 4.5 mg. (miscalculated may actually be 3.3), up-dosed to 3.7 3-17-15. Hydroxyzine HCl 25 mg. as needed (antihistamine) for anxiety. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted January 12, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 12, 2015 I found you a steeley duck! 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh Songbird, that duck is magnificent, I love it as I do all/most art. Kulture Vulture (smile). I was thinking about a molten duck but that would just be a puddle, which wouldn't be too far off track come to think of it. I think there was a duck called Puddles in some children's book if I recall. Micro that was legendary too, I am ALIVE and I can hardly believe it. I just looked up Frankenstein in Wiki and the name of Frank's creator was Victor. Yes, I am Frankenstein, created by the master/monster Mirtazapine, but unlike poor Frank (he was a bit dodgey) will not wander the mountains pitifully alone. I AM ALIVE, and I am human again in this window of absolute wonder. Thanks for reminding me Songbird that there will be more windows to come. O joy, O joy. Victor will not be victorious. I am happy for us all Alaskamom. I am happy that we are all helping each other through the waves and happy for each other during the windows. My 'smilies' have stopped working again, otherwise I would place heaps of smiling faces right here! What do those little 'squares' at the start of your post mean Alaskamom, I am not all that savvy with such matters. Cymbalta I am using Internet Explorer, can that be overcome? Hope everyone reads this as don't know whether I have to reply to each person individually. Whatever the case I thank you all. We Shall Overcome. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 13, 2015 Member Share Posted January 13, 2015 Images for "Puddles the duck children's book". And a whole lot more (skip over the one that has Shrek, that's just icky!) Cymbalta I am using Internet Explorer, can that be overcome? Nothing that an installation of Firefox browser can't fix. If you had FF, you could install Soluto and I could see what's wrong with your comp. You may not even need a new one yet. That's what I am good at, computers. Speaking as a person, not a mod. YMMV. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Micromonster Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Victor! That's it! paroxatine.30mg-98-14 (16years)/15mg March 14/15mg may 2014 every two days on docs advice, went nuts so went up to 10mg. Took 2months to stabilise.10mg July 2014-sept 2014 (6.9mg)tried WD at 10% every two weeks. went nuts, nearly left husband, cats and country.10mg sept-December 14/9mg Dec-Jan 15/8.5mg Jan-Feb 15/8mg Feb-March 15/7.5mg march 15/7mg march-present. By October, off meds and on ivf. 3 failed ivf and end of 11yr relationship.10mg/July 16- July 17/5mg Jan 18- july 18 0mg july- present. Really struggling Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted January 13, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 13, 2015 I don't remember Puddles the Duck, I was thinking of Jemima Puddle-duck from Beatrix Potter. 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) *post moved from symptoms section Hello fellow travellers old and new,I have been in a long window (for me)for over a week, but alas I think it is closing. I'm coping with that OK, par for the course.I have a condition called Central Serus Retinopathy (CSR), which was diagnosed over 30 years ago and which has never bothered me since, until now.I went to the opthomologist and he said that I have cataracts, and I am planning to have them removed. Cataracts do not cause pain in the eye, but I have pain.I think it might be a return of the CSR which studies have shown can be triggered by stress. Airline pilots get it, heavy exercise users get it, and a host of other stress related activities.WD has caused me great stress so I looked up CSR (I'm not a google search every worse case scenario person)and it is also linked to high levels of cortisol.Is cortisol mentioned anywhere in the literature covering protracted WD, in my case Mirtazapine?Thanking you in advance and hope everyone is travelling well.steeley Edited January 15, 2015 by Petu added note Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
steeley Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 *post moved from symptoms section Hello fellow travellers,Can someone tell me what the role of Cortisol plays is this drama? I might have it wrong, but think I've seen it mentioned a few times.Hope everyone is travelling well.steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
steeley Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Oh Songbird, Jemima is beautiful too, thank you. Looking at her made me feel good. So sweet, so innocent. Thank you too Cymbalta. How do I know if I have FF? If I do I'll use it with your help I hope, because unlike you I am pretty much still etching in stone. lol It would be great if I could get your help with that, but please be patient with me, and if I turn into a drongo just let me know and I will understand. Everyone has been great. Keep batting. steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Junior Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Just to clarify - 'drongo' is Aussie slang for idiot Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode. Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life. Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009. Made me suicidal. Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d. Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009. Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise. There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/longing-for-life/id958423649 My book about my unsuccessful journey through IVF Link to comment
steeley Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Go you Junior go. I didn't think about it until later, thought being that maybe other people didn't know what a drongo was, but couldn't edit my post, too late, and I'm having trouble editing, besides it's good fun learning new lingo. And I am a drongo when it comes to computers. When I was working as soon as I had gotten the hang of things I got good (grammar), but it's hard (for me) to learn from a distance. Maybe I could find an avatar of a drongo? I'll try to find one. Cymbalta, there is a duck called Puddles, thank you so much. I just like looking at the pictures, my reading and computer skills need honing. As always.....steeley the drongo in the Bongo. Stuck in a drum. Oh those drums, those incessant drums, in my ears, right now. From now on, for me, Bongo is my word for tinnitus. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted January 15, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) *post moved from symptoms section ........WD has caused me great stress so I looked up CSR (I'm not a google search every worse case scenario person)and it is also linked to high levels of cortisol. Is cortisol mentioned anywhere in the literature covering protracted WD, in my case Mirtazapine? Hi Steeley, I moved this post from another part of the site to your introduction thread here, because it was related to your own situation specifically. Your own thread is the best place to add information and updates about your changing circumstances, and to ask questions. We have a few topics related to cortisol: How to reduce cortisol? Both rx and natural I. Hate. Cortisol. Mornings. Cortisol testing Edited January 15, 2015 by Petu added another link I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
Ever Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Oh god Steeley - I am peeing myself laughing at your drongo post! ps - drongo is also used in NZ... Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
steeley Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thank you Petu for moving my post to the right place, and link to Cortisol. I'll get the hang of this eventually, promise. I know you guys must be very busy at present. Ever, do you fella's use it (drongo) too. It's a funny word, hey? Wonder where it's roots lie? I am a drongo. But it's fun in the land of the drongo. Gotta have a laugh. as always......steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Junior Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Listen here you drongo, I'll give you the drum..... LOLOLOL let the non-Aussies work that one out!!! (with apologies) Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode. Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life. Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009. Made me suicidal. Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d. Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009. Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise. There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/longing-for-life/id958423649 My book about my unsuccessful journey through IVF Link to comment
steeley Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Just to let my fellow travellers know, I am reducing to 3.50mg from 4.50mg. Wish me luck as I get scared in the lower ranges, and last drop was most unpleasant at the start. Feeling pretty good today and holding well. See what the drop does. I'll get there somehow. Best wishes to all. steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 15, 2015 Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 Steeley, You may want to re-think dropping that much, it is nearly 25% and we recommend drops of no more than 10% of the CURRENT DOSE. So your drop would be 4.5 - .45 = 4.05 mg. Then: 4.05 - .405 = 3.645 mg and then 3.65 (I rounded up) - .365 = 3.285. You will note that this gives you 3 drops before you get to under the 3.5 mg you propose, giving a much gentler slope. Drops are calc'd at 10% of the CURRENT DOSE. This becomes more important as you get to the lower ranges of the amounts because of the 'receptor occupancy' concept. You want me to find that link for you? I think it is in the 3KIS topic, a very good topic to read frequently as you taper. The 10% rule is offered as a 'harm reduction' approach that seems to protect everybody from the dreaded wd syndrome or having a rocky taper as opposed to one that is slightly uncomfortable but eminently manageable. You can always post your proposed drops here in your thread and someone will check your math. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 15, 2015 Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 Cymbalta, there is a duck called Puddles The only reference I could find (and all the pictures point to) a mascot for a college ball team. Drongo? I'll give you drongo. Has several meanings. See my search results, lots of info in just the summaries, even where the term was first used as a pejorative. Firefox? You download and install it or look in your program files for firefox.exe if you think you installed it already. After posting this, I am going to bump my previous post so you will be sure to see it. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 15, 2015 Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 Steeley, You may want to re-think dropping that much, it is nearly 25% and we recommend drops of no more than 10% of the CURRENT DOSE. So your drop would be 4.5 - .45 = 4.05 mg. Then: 4.05 - .405 = 3.645 mg and then 3.65 (I rounded up) - .365 = 3.285. You will note that this gives you 3 drops before you get to under the 3.5 mg you propose, giving a much gentler slope. Drops are calc'd at 10% of the CURRENT DOSE. This becomes more important as you get to the lower ranges of the amounts because of the 'receptor occupancy' concept. You want me to find that link for you? I think it is in the 3KIS topic, a very good topic to read frequently as you taper. The 10% rule is offered as a 'harm reduction' approach that seems to protect everybody from the dreaded wd syndrome or having a rocky taper as opposed to one that is slightly uncomfortable but eminently manageable. You can always post your proposed drops here in your thread and someone will check your math. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
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