Withdrawal causing repetitive or intrusive thoughts, rumination, and increased panic?

[Onmyway]

I found this on a site that was posted by Gonzo, another member and find it very useful for a symptom that is so prevalent. The site has more information on OCD as well. 

While not everyone who goes through withdrawal has OCD, it is quite a common symptom especially the rumination parts. This site has some unique theories about OCD and rumination which may be interesting for people who are struggling with it. 

 

https://drmichaeljgreenberg.com/anatomical-models-of-rumination/

OMW

Edited September 28, 2023 by Onmyway
added link

[Greatful]

@OnmywayOnmyway is there  link to what you're  referring to?

[Onmyway]

Yes, sorry @Grateful. Thanks for alerting me  Updated above and added here as well. 

https://drmichaeljgreenberg.com/anatomical-models-of-rumination/

Edited September 28, 2023 by Onmyway

[peaceandlove]

On 9/5/2018 at 11:34 AM, papaloapan said:

Hi. I also have this problem of intrusive and repetitive thoughts. It is logical for all of us to have this horrible adverse effect and withdrawal effect because one psychiatrist told me that psychiatric drugs affect our thinking, and if these psychiatric drugs are crap, of course they damage our brain and therefore we end up having these horrible intrusive and repetitive thoughts. It has been terrible for me because they don't let me do my mindfulness meditation in which I try to be aware and to observe the thoughts that emerge in my mind rather than getting lost in them unawerely. I was able to do it but just yesterday that I did a reduction of tramadol, I was not able to observe my thoughts, they were just impossible to control. It was so frustrating. They also won't let me focus.

have these intrusive / ocd thoughts gone away for you yet? @papaloapan

[papaloapan]

@peaceandlove Not yet. I still have them. I did a well done (slow and gradual) taper of tramadol. Then I made the mistake of being impatient by comparing myself to my friends and did a very fast taper of pristiq (5 month taper), and because of more impatience, did the greatest mistake of my life which was cold-turkeying quetiapine. I took cbd and it healed my intrusive thoughts completely, but withdrawal symptoms began 6 months after CT quetiapine, had severe panic and others symptoms, this panic and other symptoms caused me to reinstate quetiapine, after reinstating, felt a bit better but still had very bad symptoms, since I was indecisive of reinstating quetiapine in order to do a well done (slow and gradual) taper or CT'ing quetiapine again because I didn't know how bad the symptoms have to be when reinstating in order to know that the right thing to do is to CT and never reinstate again, I reinstated and CT'd many times, the las time I reinstated, I started having tardive dyskinesia and the anhedonia was getting much more extreme (hellish) and suicidal, so that made me felt sure to CT and never reinstate again. If I had not reinstated quetiapine, I would have still be healed of intrusive thoughts thanks to cbd. If you know of any herb, supplement or treatment that heals intrusive thoughts, please let me know. Thank you. In my experience, reinstatement worked only the first time, from the second reinstatement, my health started to deteriorate. There's people that feel good doing 2 or maximum 3 reinstatements. The more you CT and reinstate, the more damage you cause to your health. I've been not taking quetiapine (free from all psychiatric drugs) since july 2022

[Estman]

Hi,

I am particularly sensitive to other health conditions
They often put me in a difficult wave
It's usually the hardest on days 5 to 10
Then in the meantime it is relatively tolerable
Today was still normal, but yesterday some kind of cold virus started
There is no fever or cough, but there is a strong sore throat and thick
mucus
Strong irritation in the throat, but little runny nose
It triggered an extreme wave last 
I absolutely could not fall asleep last night
Today, too, I feel despair all day, it even makes me want to vomit
Right now, there are still extreme compulsions and fears
The head is under enormous pressure
There is great depression and hopelessness
I'm afraid I won't be able to fall asleep again
Pulse very fast
And the wave was triggered by a viral disease
I have a very bad feeling in my head and it doesn't let me fall asleep
either
Like you can't exchange thoughts, only thoughts of disaster
I hoped that the end of the year would be calmer