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Dexithecat: Trying to get off Ativan and using Nicotinamide riboside to help


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Hello,

 

I have been using Ativan for over two years to help with pudendal neuralgia. I am 72, in chronic pain and using two new supplements to help with withdrawal symptoms. Nerve Fix and Niacel by Thorne

which is nicotinamide riboside.

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Hi Dexie , welcome to the site.

Pudendal neuralgia is a dreadful condition to have . . . does the ativan help?  

 

Could you give us a little more information please about your situation , and how we can help?

I'm wondering if the chronic pain is from PN or something else.

 

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Welcome Dexi,

 

I'm sorry to hear about your situation and pain.

 

How are you tapering the Ativan? Are you taking any other medications at the moment? What withdrawal symptoms are you having?

 

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Hello and thanks for responding. I am not taking ativan during the day now. I take 2mg of Ativan with 50 mg of Dilantin to sleep at night. I have not been able to eat because of severe abdominal discomfort, just fells cramped and bloated. I tried to rub on some Basil and then some Rosemary Oil after the peppemint oil failed me. It seem to allow me to relieve the bloating so I finally was able to eat some sauerkraut and yogurt and eggs.

 

Any other suggestions from people going off benzos. I refuse to take opiates cuz it almost killed me three differnt times. NO opiates since 2011. Some of the Niacel seems to help and found this homepathic called nerve fix. Seems to calm it down a bit. I was misdiagnosed with Intercystial cystitis, but a 4th urologist said it is definitely nerve pain. He put wome lidocaine next to the nerve in my buttocks and the pain went away without any drugs for 48 hours. I do not think that would work for IC

 

Dexi

 

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There are ample topics about this without looking for distributors, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotinamide_riboside

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Hey Dexi -

 

Congratulations on finding something that helps with your pain.  Ortho-molecular doctors have been using niacin for decades, and this looks like a novel (if expensive) approach!

 

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So that we can know your tapering history.  There are many people here who have come off of benzos.  It will help us to know:  when you started the benzos, when you started to taper, by how much you tapered each time, and how much you are currently on.  When we have more information, we can help you decide what is the best way to come off the ativan.

 

Please see:  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3162-benzo-tapering-nuggets/

 

Are you having breakthrough symptoms?  Are there certain times of the day when you struggle more than others?  

 

For the bloating (I have severe IBS), I have been researching making my own suppositories.  The one which shows the most promise - if I want to sleep at night with no gas pains - is activated charcoal in coconut oil suppositories.  It's messy (your bum turns black) but very effective.  I still haven't gotten to the suppository making stage, but sometimes I just coat a tablet in hemorrhoid ointment, and put it up.  It absorbs excess gas quite nicely - but my trouble is more lower bowel.

 

I recently saw a video about adding essential oils to suppositories (she just used small diameter silicon ice cube trays).  I'm not sure about taking them internally, but if you were, peppermint, rosemary, and fennel would be "helpful experiments" (I do not advocate this, I'm just passing along what I saw yesterday, and they seemed to be happy about adding 5 drops of essential oil to a homemade suppository).  Others here have gotten help with bloating from a fennel tea and cool packs on the tummy.

 

Others here would suggest dietary changes - many of us cannot handle wheat or dairy or high histamine foods, and the bloating is caused by an intolerance (not an allergy, but a difficulty) to certain foods.  If you look at a FODMAPS chart, cutting out grains and dairy first to see if it helps bloating can be revelatory.  Then, when you feel better, you can add foods back to narrow it down to you precise culprits.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3503-histamine-food-intolerance/

 

and  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3413-digestive-problems-nausea-diarrhea-bloating-gerd/   

 

and   http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4945-food-sensitivitie

 

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Welcome, Dexi.

 

I have never heard of nicotinamide helping people go off benzos, do you mean it helps with the abdominal pain?

 

Coincidentally, I am dealing with gut issues myself (just had a test for small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or SIBO) and have found excluding many FODMAP foods (example: https://stanfordhealthcare.org/content/dam/SHC/for-patients-component/programs-services/clinical-nutrition-services/docs/pdf-lowfodmapdiet.pdf )has helped quite a bit. I am also taking enteric coated peppermint oil and drinking at least 1 cup of fresh ginger tea every day. They help digestive motility.

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