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Ather
9 hours ago, Wellbutrinsucks said:

I had ringing in my ears occasionally, but now it’s becoming more and more frequent. Should I be worried? Is this gonna become permanent? I’m only 27 (almost 28) and I can’t believe all this stuff is happening to me right now. My other symptoms have also gotten worse. Will I ever see a window? I’ve been in a straight wave for 9 months. I just want to cry.

 

Hello Wellbutrin sucks,

 

It will get better, with time you'll get used to it.

 

In the beginning I was quite afraid that what will I do if it stays, now it is there but I'm not afraid of it anymore, Alhumdu-lillah.

 

This masking noise works for me, It lowers the tinnitus intensity after listening to it for 30 minutes or so, remember we may need different masking noise, there are plenty available on youtube, this one completely masks my tinnitus, may work for you, if not then listen to others you will find the one that matches your tinnitus, just raise the volume a little more than the noise of your original tinnitus and you'll be fine:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKo4jYDO9FQ

 

And please do not be afraid, little children have it, most of the people who have it wont even complain about it because they are so busy they hardly get time to think about it.

 

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Wellbutrinsucks

I refuse to have tinnitus forever; this is unacceptable 

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RealMe
19 hours ago, Ather said:

This masking noise works for me, It lowers the tinnitus intensity after listening to it for 30 minutes or so, remember we may need different masking noise, there are plenty available on youtube, this one completely masks my tinnitus, may work for you, if not then listen to others you will find the one that matches your tinnitus, just raise the volume a little more than the noise of your original tinnitus and you'll be fine:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKo4jYDO9FQ

Hi Ather,

What do you do with this masking youtube?  Can you just click on it from your computer and listen to it?  Can you tell me exactly what to do with it?  

Thanks.

RM

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Ather
3 hours ago, RealMe said:

Hi Ather,

What do you do with this masking youtube?  Can you just click on it from your computer and listen to it?  Can you tell me exactly what to do with it?  

Thanks.

RM

 

Hello Real Me,

You can click on it on youtube.com and listen to the noise via earphones, I have also downloaded it through youtube downloader on my mobile phone so I listen to it on my phone when I'm not able to go to sleep, after listening to it on a higher than my tinnitus volume for 10 - 20 minutes my original tinnitus feels very low.

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RealMe

Thank you, Ather!  I have been afraid of earphones, but I will try it.

RM

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Ather
On 2/7/2019 at 3:10 PM, Wellbutrinsucks said:

I refuse to have tinnitus forever; this is unacceptable 

 

You'll have to adjust and it will be Nothing to worry about, Promise !

In-Sha-Allah.

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Ather
8 hours ago, RealMe said:

Thank you, Ather!  I have been afraid of earphones, but I will try it.

RM

 

They are perfectly fine at low volume, in the beginning I myself was very afraid but now its Nothing to even think about :) 

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noearthlyfamily

TINNITUS that is not due to withdrawal or vestibular disorders:

(*for me it has been constant since past 5-10 years, it is due to sensitivity to emf's/wifi signals. goes away completely when the power of the block is knocked out in a storm, resumes immediately upon power coming back on.

i had it very rarely as a toddler, increased some in my age 9-12, picked up signifcantly age 13-1997, about 50%-75% of time from 1998-2012, constant tinnitus since at least 2012-2019 today. this timeline is consistent with the rise of emf's (electro magnetic frequencies) from increased electronics, digital tv, radio, microwaves and recently wifi and cell signals/frequencies!)

 it sounds like this EXACTLY:    :thumbsup:

[b]https://youtu.be/-hqokrn5oO8[/b]     3:36 long Youtube video
"For those of you that are hearing a high pitched ringing sound" 

 

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BfromNJ

I have had tinnitus since January 5 or so.  Came on a month after stopping gabapentin, but not sure that's what caused it or not.  I had an upper endoscopy as well and some antibiotics , along with dental work around same time. lots of variables.  however, I think its really med related.  and has gotten worse recently with new meds and going off of mirt.  

 

Will this get better as I start to get off what I am currently on?  If its an adverse reaction as this point, should I even take my time with a taper or go quicker?  I only ask that because I feel like every time I put a pill in my mouth, I am making this more permanent.  :( 

 

I feel like im causing damage that will not be reversed. 

 

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Altostrata

Merged similar topics. Please use search in the Symptoms forum before starting new topics.

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BfromNJ
On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 10:28 PM, RealMe said:

Hi Ather,

What do you do with this masking youtube?  Can you just click on it from your computer and listen to it?  Can you tell me exactly what to do with it?  

Thanks.

RM

if I may chime in, being a tinnitus victim myself.  I put these on on my smartphone and I listen to them at night, as my T is more bothersome when trying to get to sleep. it doesn't mask it persay, becasuse mine is loud and I can only turn phone up so much before its actually annoying.  But what experts say is you want the masking to be just under the tinnitus volume, so you can still here it but its not as bothersome. its how you get habituated to it .

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BfromNJ
On ‎3‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 2:04 PM, noearthlyfamily said:

TINNITUS that is not due to withdrawal or vestibular disorders:

(*for me it has been constant since past 5-10 years, it is due to sensitivity to emf's/wifi signals. goes away completely when the power of the block is knocked out in a storm, resumes immediately upon power coming back on.

i had it very rarely as a toddler, increased some in my age 9-12, picked up signifcantly age 13-1997, about 50%-75% of time from 1998-2012, constant tinnitus since at least 2012-2019 today. this timeline is consistent with the rise of emf's (electro magnetic frequencies) from increased electronics, digital tv, radio, microwaves and recently wifi and cell signals/frequencies!)

 it sounds like this EXACTLY:    :thumbsup:

[b]https://youtu.be/-hqokrn5oO8[/b]     3:36 long Youtube video
"For those of you that are hearing a high pitched ringing sound" 

 

oh I saw a documentary on this, but not tinnitus.  the woman just couldn't tolerage being near things.  I swear sometimes this is me, since its so much worse when I am near computers, tv etc. 

 

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noearthlyfamily
22 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

oh I saw a documentary on this, but not tinnitus.  the woman just couldn't tolerage being near things.  I swear sometimes this is me, since its so much worse when I am near computers, tv etc. 

 

i think many people in WD or even just on psych meds period have tinnitus due to the brain neural tissues being damaged . but the fact that it disappears completely when all power is knocked out indicates that it is emf frequencies that cause the "sound". even people without psych meds can get tinnitus, but for us who are on them or have been damaged by them, we are more susceptible to having sensitivity to all sensory data, whether visual olfactory tactile auditory or any other. like when you get a migraine and all noises lights and smells become painful to you, same basic thing with emf's, they are frequencies in the air waves that we can pick up but our damaged brain sensors are hypersensitive to the frequencies.

 

an easy way to differentiate between a physical/mechanical inner ear defect or other organic cause ....from hypersensitivity to emf's... is go where there is no power. like when a storm temporarily knowks out all the power. or deep in a cave. still have Tinnitus? it's inner ear damage. if it stops and blessed silence returns with no emf's present, it's hypersensitivity to emf's usually caused by damage to the brain from meds. 

 

5G and wifi even 4G cellphones etc  have been proven to cause brain tumors and cancer, many studies on this. add hypersensitvity from drug damage and it's really a mess.

i want to live in the mountains with dense tall tree growth and no wifi around! but good luck finding a place like that, especially affordable to live in! i think the arctic and maybe some islands are the last bastions of emf-free living areas.

but trees block 5G transmissions, so it's a start. up in the hills they have to do so much tree cutting and road building it's not cost efficient for them, so they concentrate it in densely populated areas where they can put the 5G towers every 250 feet or even closer, and 4G towers are everywhere. then there's the google LOON Project, with thousands of balloons in the stratosphere instead of expensive cell towers..they say it's for better cell phone coverage but i don't buy that.

 

our smart meters on our houses are the worst offenders right now for emf radiation, and sleeping near cell phones, LED lighting, especially blue light from tv or computer screens. and those curly pigtail lightbulbs that have replaced regular incandescant lightbulbs...toxic mercury inside vapors which cause neurologic damage. ah, remember the days of regular land line phones, regular tv and soft warm lightbulbs? the sun was actually yellow then...beautiful blue skies and puffy white cumulonimbus clouds...sigh.

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BfromNJ
32 minutes ago, noearthlyfamily said:

i think many people in WD or even just on psych meds period have tinnitus due to the brain neural tissues being damaged . but the fact that it disappears completely when all power is knocked out indicates that it is emf frequencies that cause the "sound". even people without psych meds can get tinnitus, but for us who are on them or have been damaged by them, we are more susceptible to having sensitivity to all sensory data, whether visual olfactory tactile auditory or any other. like when you get a migraine and all noises lights and smells become painful to you, same basic thing with emf's, they are frequencies in the air waves that we can pick up but our damaged brain sensors are hypersensitive to the frequencies.

 

an easy way to differentiate between a physical/mechanical inner ear defect or other organic cause ....from hypersensitivity to emf's... is go where there is no power. like when a storm temporarily knowks out all the power. or deep in a cave. still have Tinnitus? it's inner ear damage. if it stops and blessed silence returns with no emf's present, it's hypersensitivity to emf's usually caused by damage to the brain from meds. 

 

5G and wifi even 4G cellphones etc  have been proven to cause brain tumors and cancer, many studies on this. add hypersensitvity from drug damage and it's really a mess.

i want to live in the mountains with dense tall tree growth and no wifi around! but good luck finding a place like that, especially affordable to live in! i think the arctic and maybe some islands are the last bastions of emf-free living areas.

but trees block 5G transmissions, so it's a start. up in the hills they have to do so much tree cutting and road building it's not cost efficient for them, so they concentrate it in densely populated areas where they can put the 5G towers every 250 feet or even closer, and 4G towers are everywhere. then there's the google LOON Project, with thousands of balloons in the stratosphere instead of expensive cell towers..they say it's for better cell phone coverage but i don't buy that.

 

our smart meters on our houses are the worst offenders right now for emf radiation, and sleeping near cell phones, LED lighting, especially blue light from tv or computer screens. and those curly pigtail lightbulbs that have replaced regular incandescant lightbulbs...toxic mercury inside vapors which cause neurologic damage. ah, remember the days of regular land line phones, regular tv and soft warm lightbulbs? the sun was actually yellow then...beautiful blue skies and puffy white cumulonimbus clouds...sigh.

why not go to the mountains!  get a trailer and get going. Sounds wonderful.  :)   Well hopefully its not permanent damage in all cases and some of us can heal when the meds are removed and our nervous system heals more.  I myself do not know for sure where it came from.  I had numerous other factors that could have contributed - meds, dental work, anesthesia from an upper endoscopy, stress, you name it!  It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't sound like it was over my head and filling up the room.  :(  I actually always had it - it was just something I never even thought about at all, because it was so so mild and never bothersome.  I am still going to be seeing an ent and also a tinnitus doctor, as I have pain behind my ear that is ringing worse now.    but luckily, mri showed no tumors etc.  

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brassmonkey
1 hour ago, noearthlyfamily said:

5G and wifi even 4G cellphones etc  have been proven to cause brain tumors and cancer, many studies on this. add hypersensitvity from drug damage and it's really a mess.

 

noearthlyfamily--

 

Please refrain from making statements of this sort in the future.  SA is not a forum for the propagation of conspiracy theories.  Even a minor bit of research shows that this statement is untrue.  We are a resource for supporting people in their quest to reduce their dependence on psych drugs, not for spreading fear through the use of rumors and unsubstantiated  statements.

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noearthlyfamily
1 hour ago, brassmonkey said:

 

noearthlyfamily--

 

Please refrain from making statements of this sort in the future.  SA is not a forum for the propagation of conspiracy theories.  Even a minor bit of research shows that this statement is untrue.  We are a resource for supporting people in their quest to reduce their dependence on psych drugs, not for spreading fear through the use of rumors and unsubstantiated  statements.

 

i could post the very many studies here showing the cancer causing radiation effects of 4G cellphones emf's on the brain and other parts of the body (as well as 5G) but somehow i get the impression that you don't want the studies or the proof.  but for anyone who gets to read this comment before they censor it, look up cellphone radiation tumors (same side of head) or for that matter, endocrine cancer/infertility caused by laptops and devices held in laps and in pockets...low sperm count/infertility and cellphone wifi radiation, any of those will bring up numerous studies. not everything you don't like to think about is a "conspiracy theory" the "use of rumors" and "unsubstantiated statements".

 

whatever. ever since i agreed with the success story of someone here who poly-tapered from poly-drugs i have been treated crappy by the mods. fine. ban me. this ain't the only rodeo in town! buh bye now

 

 

 

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BfromNJ

This is probably a mod or admin question, since they have dealt with so many people and experiences on here of those with this.   But anyone with this and their past experiences as well.   Does being on the meds longer increase the risk of the tinnitus being permanent?  I guess im wondering if the meds can actually do permanent damage or if it is more of a cns thing that can go away once you are off and your nervous system settles down.  

 

On the flip side, I suppose coming off of a med too fast can also cause tinnitus?  with this scenario, can time heal this as well?  

 

 

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brassmonkey

Drug induced tinnitus is just that. It is the reaction of the nerves in the ear to the disruption caused by the drug.  Once the drug is removed the nerves have a chance to settle down and the noise goes away.  This does not include the tinnitus caused by everyday stress and injury to the ears by prolonged exposure to loud noise, or from the natural act of aging.  As you decrease your drug load the noise should decrease, but it is very nonlinear.  For many people it doesn't really clear up until they are several months post "0".

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BfromNJ
3 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

Drug induced tinnitus is just that. It is the reaction of the nerves in the ear to the disruption caused by the drug.  Once the drug is removed the nerves have a chance to settle down and the noise goes away.  This does not include the tinnitus caused by everyday stress and injury to the ears by prolonged exposure to loud noise, or from the natural act of aging.  As you decrease your drug load the noise should decrease, but it is very nonlinear.  For many people it doesn't really clear up until they are several months post "0".

Thank you for the reply.  What about the tinnitus that comes on during withdraw or post med?  Would that be here to stay or can that go in time as well?

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brassmonkey

That comes under the heading of drug induced, so it should fade over time.

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MoreMeditateLessMedicate

So glad to find this thread and know that I'm both not alone and not crazy for thinking my tinnitus was drug-related and not due to hearing loss. Been on Wellbutrin steady since 2012 and it gradually gets worse each passing year. It's so bad nowadays that I can hear it over our white noise generator in the bedroom. I also would love to listen to pure silence one day in meditation, which is why I moved my meditations to the morning when the ringing is at its lowest point of the day (ironically, that is before my first dose of Wellbutrin in 12 hours).

 

Very excited to see if the ringing goes away as I wash out this crack rock (I mean bupropion) out of my system. 

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BfromNJ
9 hours ago, MoreMeditateLessMedicate said:

So glad to find this thread and know that I'm both not alone and not crazy for thinking my tinnitus was drug-related and not due to hearing loss. Been on Wellbutrin steady since 2012 and it gradually gets worse each passing year. It's so bad nowadays that I can hear it over our white noise generator in the bedroom. I also would love to listen to pure silence one day in meditation, which is why I moved my meditations to the morning when the ringing is at its lowest point of the day (ironically, that is before my first dose of Wellbutrin in 12 hours).

 

Very excited to see if the ringing goes away as I wash out this crack rock (I mean bupropion) out of my system. 

It's a horrible thing to live with.  And it stinks because it can also come on in withdraw.  And I have sensitivity to noise as well.  It's a no win situation.  I can hear mine over my white noise machine too.  I'm not dealing with it well as I have other disturbing symptoms along with it. I wish you well on your taper journey and hope yours goes away! 

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MoreMeditateLessMedicate

I have been waiting to update my intro page (only been 5 1/2 weeks since beginning the tapering process) with what I'm going through... but I have a bad feeling that tinnitus is about to be passed up by some nastier issues that are ever so slowly creeping back into my world. Paranoia, anxiety, impulsivity are all rearing their ugly little heads after being chemically regulated away for many years. This is going to be a marathon. Definitely not a sprint...

Best of everything in your tapering journey as well! 

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BfromNJ
On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 8:59 PM, brassmonkey said:

That comes under the heading of drug induced, so it should fade over time.

Its a rough condition to live with.  even rougher if you cant be sure if the meds caused it, stress or something else, being there were multiple factors that could have.  Mine came on about a month after stopped gabapentin.  but I has also had stress/anxiety (hence the reason for the med. :) )  , dental work, upper endoscopy.  I only pray with time it will heal.  the meds definitely do not help things in the least.   I can see that.

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Was on a low dose of Xanax, and quit cold turkey. Bad withdrawal, was put on a short course ( two weeks ) of Zyprexa. Developed Tinnitus as I tapered off the over a months time.  It was intermittent.   A couple months later went on escitalopram.  I became toxic on escitalopram because liver doesn’t produce enough of the right enzymes.  Tinnitus went crazy — very difficult to stand.  After 6 unsuccessful months on E am now tapering off.  Tinnitus has improved slightly whilst tapering but still disabling at times— particularly when get waves of withdrawal symptoms   Any chance, with all this history, it will resolve— I will get back to baseline—as i come off the escitalopram?  I should note that I have a pre existing high frequency hearing loss. 

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