Lynn260 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I stopped Sertraline 10 weeks ago. I was ok for a few weeks but then the symptoms became brutal. Severe head pressure, waterlogged head feeling, nausea, acid reflux, sleep disturbance and brain zaps. I went down from 150mg in January to 25mg at the end of march before stopping. I now feel desperate. My symptoms are awful. I take a small dose of clomazapine twice a day but I wake with agitation often several times in the night. Will this awful experience improve? I do not feel depressed or even too anxious but the agitation and other symptoms are grinding me down. Please help! lynn Sertraline started on 150mg End August 2017. Started tapering January 2018, 100mg for one month. 75mg one month, 50mg two weeks, 25mg two weeks. Stopped Sertraline end March 2018. First three weeks not too bad. Week 5, symptoms worsened. Have changed by I now have brutal symptoms (head pressure, headache, dizziness, tinnitus, nausea, acid reflux, lethargy, agitation, waterlogged head feeling). No windows, just waves right now. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted May 31, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 31, 2018 Welcome Lynn I'm sorry you are feeling unwell since stopping Sertraline, from what you have written is sounds like you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms, this is not uncommon, especially after a fast taper, which is what you did. I was the same, I tapered over the course of 2 - 3 months, and then stopped, thinking I had done the right thing, but I ended up in delayed, protracted withdrawal which has taken a long time to recover from. We suggest reducing by no more than 10% of the current dose every 4 weeks, this reduces the risk of withdrawal symptoms arising. Please read through this which will explain why: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? (The general philosophy of gradual tapering) Do you have any Sertraline left? Reinstatement of a very small amount might reduce or stop your symptoms. There's no guarantee, especially because its been 10 weeks since you stopped, but its possible. Reinstatement of a small amount of the drug can often work well to alleviate withdrawal symptoms. According to medical knowledge, reinstatement is the only way to alleviate withdrawal. Reinstatement is best done immediately upon appearance of symptoms. The more time that passes, the less likely it is to work. Once you have stabilized on a low dose of the drug, then a slower, safer taper can be started. Here is some information about reinstatement to help you decide if its something you would like to try: About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms How long were you taking Sertraline? Do you mean Clonazepam or Clozapine? I can't find any information about clomazapine. When did you start taking this? Are you taking any other medications, or have you started or stopped any over the last few years? We ask members to put their drug and withdrawal history in the signature section. It appears below each of your posts and helps us to help you. Here are instructions for how to do it: Please put your withdrawal history in your signature When we have a bit more information, we may be able to offer some suggestions, but for now don't make any more changes, carefully read through the reinstatement topic and let us know if its something you might want to try. We could help you decide what dose to reinstate. Even if you choose not to reinstate, you will recover, but I don't know how long it will take, everyone is different and it can take anywhere from a few months to years in some cases. Here are a few more topics which may be useful: Tips for tapering off Zoloft (sertraline) The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization Rate symptoms daily to track patterns and progress Dr. Joseph Glenmullen's withdrawal symptom checklist What is withdrawal syndrome? symptoms and self care You can use this thread as your ongoing journal to track progress, write about symptoms, ask questions and communicate with the community, add to it whenever you want. Its a good idea to bookmark it or follow it, so its easy to find again. Petunia. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
Lynn260 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Thanks Petunia your reply was very helpful. One of my biggest worries is that my symptoms are very brutal. My Dr suggested I try Escitalopram which I took last week for four days. I had the most awful nausea, vomit and headaches so he advised to stop taking it. I now have a terrible morning agitation, head pressure, waterlogged and foggy and some acid reflux and general feeling of unwell. I have thought about the reinstatement of Sertraline but I am worried that it just may not work after 11 weeks of being off it. My sleep has been a bit better so at least I have some respite from these symptoms at night. I worry that you say withdrawal could last years. How would I know whether my symptoms are withdrawal or some kind of relapse? many thanks wendy Sertraline started on 150mg End August 2017. Started tapering January 2018, 100mg for one month. 75mg one month, 50mg two weeks, 25mg two weeks. Stopped Sertraline end March 2018. First three weeks not too bad. Week 5, symptoms worsened. Have changed by I now have brutal symptoms (head pressure, headache, dizziness, tinnitus, nausea, acid reflux, lethargy, agitation, waterlogged head feeling). No windows, just waves right now. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 31, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Here are a couple of SA links: Is it withdrawal or relapse? Or something else? How do I know it's withdrawal and not relapse? Edited May 31, 2018 by ChessieCat fixed link Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 2, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 2, 2018 Hi Lynn, this is what you asked in the PM you sent me. I have quoted it here so that I can respond to your question straight away and in context. 10 hours ago, Lynn260 said: aftet 9 weeks of no Sertraline my symptoms seem more like withdrawal rather than relapse. My sleep has become disrupted and I have nausea and some anxiety. I am not depressed but anxious about getting better. I wake up feeling agitated so I take a bit of clomazapine. Do wd symptoms get better over time? I seem to have felt worse the longer it has taken? The only known way to reduce withdrawal symptoms is to reinstate the drug which you stopped taking. SA's suggestion is to try a small amount to see how you react. Please carefully read Post #1 of this topic: About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms Please do not go back to the same dose you were taking. Your brain will have already made some adaptation during the 9 weeks you have been off the drug. If you decide that you wish to try reinstatement we can suggest a dose. Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Lynn260 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 After 9 weeks off Sertraline I have restarted with 25mg. I was getting terrible head pressure, nausea and acid reflux. My head feels constantly waterlogged and I have tinnitus. The strange thing is that I wake every 90 minutes throughout the night. I was told that Sertraline should help with the sleep/wake cycle. I also was getting agitation before going back on it do I am hoping it will help with that. Does anyone have a view on whether my symptoms were still withdrawal? The problem was that they were getting worse with no windows of relief. lynn Sertraline started on 150mg End August 2017. Started tapering January 2018, 100mg for one month. 75mg one month, 50mg two weeks, 25mg two weeks. Stopped Sertraline end March 2018. First three weeks not too bad. Week 5, symptoms worsened. Have changed by I now have brutal symptoms (head pressure, headache, dizziness, tinnitus, nausea, acid reflux, lethargy, agitation, waterlogged head feeling). No windows, just waves right now. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 6, 2018 11 hours ago, Lynn260 said: After 9 weeks off Sertraline I have restarted with 25mg. From you signature: 25mg two weeks. Stopped Sertraline end March 2018. On 6/3/2018 at 7:59 AM, ChessieCat said: Please do not go back to the same dose you were taking. Your brain will have already made some adaptation during the 9 weeks you have been off the drug. If you decide that you wish to try reinstatement we can suggest a dose. After being off 25mg for 9 weeks, restarting at that dose is not recommended. As stated in my previous post: Please carefully read Post #1 of this topic: About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms If you have only been taking 25mg for 1-3 doses you could reduce back to 5mg. You can make your own liquid from tablets see: Tips for tapering off Zoloft (sertraline) The idea of reinstating isn't to get rid of withdrawal symptoms completely but to bring them to a bearable level. SA suggests starting with a low dose and increasing if needed instead of starting with a dose which might be too high. Please Keep Notes on Paper Please update and simplify your drug signature. Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature Only dates, drugs, doses, no symptoms or diagnoses. The mods need to be able to see your drug history at a glance. Thank you. Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
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