Sottana: Paxil withdrawal - questions and concerns

[Longroadhome]

Just now, Longroadhome said:

For me the only answer is coming off Adilii. However we get there and  however long it takes x

Whst did you read about long term hold ?

[sunnysideup69]

Hey @Sottana,

Sending good wishes and hugs your way. Have been catching up with your thread.

[Sottana]

@sunnysideup69appreciate you always, my friend! Hope you’re ok! 
 

@Longroadhome I’ve read articles that say there’s an increased risk of developing dementia for people that were on drugs with strong anticholinergic properties for extended periods of time. Paxil is one of these drugs, unfortunately. 

[Sottana]

Really struggling badly tonight with terror and head pressure. Could use some hope and encouragement.

[Cocopuffz17]

Hey sorry to hear you are struggling. You will get through this and things will get better! You got this! Never forget that everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed! 

[Erell]

Hang in there Adili ❤

When things are rough, I often visualise myself healed, or even imagine how I'll write my success story. It often gives me  some strenght to keep pushing.

 

Tomorrow is another day, it really is.

 

I send you all my support Adili, we will get there !

[Sottana]

@Cocopuffz17 thank you my friend! 
 

@Erell thank you for popping on my page. I check yours out at times! I’m sorry you’re struggling too but it feels good to know that I am not alone. You’re right, we will make it. You’re so strong for helping others while you yourself are struggling!! 

[Longroadhome]

Checking in @Sottana

How are you ? 
hope this last week has seen improvements 😊

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomestill really rocky. Just trying to hang on. Thanks for checking in ❤️❤️

[sunnysideup69]

Hey @Sottana, how are ya, buddy? I'm waving at you from a wave....just coming out of a brief one. How are things going? Still rocky or ok?

I've been distracted by online teaching for a while, I'm glad of it, it has kept me relatively sane during lockdown.

 

[Sottana]

Hey @sunnysideup69! I thought I was making some progress and then a close friend died of a heroin overdose. I’m completely shook and my symptoms are totally off the rails. I’m terrified to go to the wake, which is today. Shaking in my boots, good friend. Happy youre exiting your wave! I saw your vid by the way. Loved it! 

[Colonial]

My condolences on the loss of Your friend.

God grant you peace.

 

[wantrelief]

I am so very sorry about your dear friend, Adili.  We are here for you.  💗

[Sottana]

@Colonial @wantrelief thank you guys. I really appreciate you both ❤️❤️

[Longroadhome]

So sorry to hear about your loss @Sottana

im thinking of you and here if you need to talk. 
take extra care of yourself x

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomei really appreciate you. Thanks for always popping in, dear friend. 

[sunnysideup69]

So sorry your friend has died, @Sottana. What an absolute shock, no wonder your symptoms have ramped. That's totally normal. Sending you a huge hug, dear friend. I'm going to make a video update later this week, might actually do one on bereavement/ withdrawal, although I sincerely have no tips apart from rest, sleep when you need to, eat as well as you can ( even if it's hard to) and gentle exercise. 

We're here for you ❤️ .

[Sottana]

@sunnysideup69 thank you so much my friend! Sorry I took so long to respond. It’s been difficult. I’m going to check your YT for that video now. I hope you are doing ok! What’s new with you? ❤️

[Sottana]

Anyone know if eating hemp seed is wd safe 

[Longroadhome]

3 hours ago, Adili13 said:

Anyone know if eating hemp seed is wd safe 

Hi Adili 

don’t know the answer to that. 
how are you ? 
have you started to taper again ? X

 

[Sottana]

I’ve tapered only a small amount more. Still feeling pretty bad. How are you? @Longroadhome

[Longroadhome]

Sorry you’re still feeling bad @Sottana

hope that changes soon. It’s a long road to recovery but will be worth it . 
 

im doing ok and managing to have some sort of a life while tapering thank you. 
lots of symptoms but I’m slowly moving forward. 
due to drop to 3.2mg Paxil this month. 
 

let’s keep going 😉

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomewow! You’re getting so low. Congrats, my friend. 

[Longroadhome]

Thank you @Sottana

It feels good to be getting lower each month. 
 

You’re in my thoughts 💭 

we started this journey together and we’ve come a long way. 
just a few more hills to climb and then we’ll see the finish line 🏁 

 

[Sottana]

@LongroadhomeI so appreciate you! I think of you as well! We will get through this, dear friend! I hope you have a great day. 

[Sottana]

The inner compass initiative (ici) has created a feature on their website that allows people who are in withdrawal to network. It has modifiers that allow you to specify what you’d be looking for in another person. They suggested that we advertise for them, because the biggest issue they’re facing is not having enough people sign-up (it’s totally free by the way). The feature is only really useful if enough people sign-up so that the database grows. Maybe a mod could make this a new topic or something. Just an idea! 

[Longroadhome]

On 3/19/2021 at 8:48 AM, Adili13 said:

The inner compass initiative (ici) has created a feature on their website that allows people who are in withdrawal to network. It has modifiers that allow you to specify what you’d be looking for in another person. They suggested that we advertise for them, because the biggest issue they’re facing is not having enough people sign-up (it’s totally free by the way). The feature is only really useful if enough people sign-up so that the database grows. Maybe a mod could make this a new topic or something. Just an idea! 

Thanks for this  information Adili 

I see you have started to taper again 

👍

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomeyeah, started making reductions a couple weeks ago! Thanks for noticing!

[Sottana]

Do people find going from liquid titration back to a full pill creates symptoms? This is what I plan to do when I get to 10 mg and was wondering if this creates issues for people. 

[Longroadhome]

20 minutes ago, Adili13 said:

Do people find going from liquid titration back to a full pill creates symptoms? This is what I plan to do when I get to 10 mg and was wondering if this creates issues for people. 

Hi Adili 

why do you need to do that ?

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomei plan to do an extended hold when I get to 10 mg and want to just take a full pill for accuracy. 

[Erell]

1 hour ago, Adili13 said:

Do people find going from liquid titration back to a full pill creates symptoms? This is what I plan to do when I get to 10 mg and was wondering if this creates issues for people. 

Do you mean :

- going from a homemade liquid to pill

or

- going from pharmaceutical liquid to pill ?

 

I don't currently manage to find and give you a link to explain it better than my foggy English so I'll try my best :

in my opinion (and it's only my opinion), I would avoid making this change :

 

- Some people seem to have issues when doing changes between liquid and pill. So, if there are no major (liquid out of stock in your country, for example) reason to change we generally advise to keep everything steady.

One hypothesis is that the absorption is not the same between pills and liquid.

 

- This goes with the "Keep it simple" rule : as Brassmonkey often says, every change is an event and might destabilise a bit our CNS.

If we can avoid a change, best to keep everything steady.

 

- And it seems that utilizing the liquid is easier to make very precise doses. Especially when you are at low doses as you can play with dilutions.

 

Take care dear Adili ☀️

[Colonial]

If the pill you plan on now swallowing whole is the same as the one you are diluting now, you have a better chance of having less problems.  I would try to continue to take it in the same method as before in regards to absorption with or without food.  For example, where I think you may run into problems is if you are used to taking the liquid on an empty stomach but now started to take the pill with food, etc. 

 

If you chose to play if safe and continue to dissolve it, in theory it would not be the same annoyance in the sense of time or measurement to make the dose, since it is already exact. I dissolve hard vitamins in water in an hour without having to do any thing but drop it in the cup. 

 

I suppose in the end it depends on how long you plan on staying at the exact dose.  If your staying there for 6 months or more, it would be worth the change over, if your only staying there a few months you might just want continue to dissolve it quickly since you will have to return to the method eventually.

 

If you do want to switch over, do 50% percent at a time to help your brain get a chance. You can cut the pill in half, make the liquid out of half and swallow the other side whole.  That would be a gentler transition.

 

 

Edited March 28, 2021 by Colonial

[Sottana]

@Erell @Colonial

 

I’m making my own liquid using pills, it isn’t a pharmacy liquid. It would just be going from making my liquid using solid pills to taking a solid pill once I hit 10 mg.

 

colonial, I plan to stay at that dose for over 6 months. Probably about a year, maybe more. That’s why I devised this plan. 
 

thanks guy!! 

[Colonial]

 

Then if your looking at about 9-12 months I can understand why for ease of dosing your thinking about it. Just ease into it then.  If you have the ability to quarter a pill effectively you can start with keeping 75% liquid for 10 days and then go 50-50 for 10 days, than end with only 25% still liquid.

 

Within 30 days you'll have transitioned over quite smoothly one might dare to hope.

Great to hear from you!

 

[Longroadhome]

@Sottana

did you stop doing the liquid Paxil as I know you mentioned about all the bubbles in the liquid ? 
did you return to tablet and dissolve ?