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Synchronicity is when two or more things happen close together in time that seem strangely connected, when there is no obvious way, in our conventional understanding of reality, that they could be connected.

 

For example, I was on the phone once with someone who was on the other side of the U.S. from me, and who was saying, "It's like being a butterfly," just as a butterfly flew past my window. And, it's very rare for me to see butterflies out my windows.

 

Another example -- I was reading a biography about a woman who lived in Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp in Florida, which I had never heard of. That week, I was idly flipping TV channels, and stopped at a police series I had never even heard of before. I started watching it, and this episode turned out to be about a murder at Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp in Florida. On top of that, there was a plethora of synchros for my life in the episode, including a plot point of the FDA approving a drug it shouldn't have.

 

There is debate over whether these events are statistically rare, but essentially meaningless, random coincidences, or whether they show that there is an underlying framework to reality that we don't fully know about yet. Some people think that synchronicities are caused by unconscious psychokinesis. In other words, I wanted to see a butterfly at that moment, so I unconsciously dragged one over from wherever it was before.

 

Interestingly, there is an explosion of books and conferences going on right now about synchronicity! Back in the 1900s, the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung did a lot to popularize the idea. "Following discussions with both Albert Einstein and Wolfgang Pauli, Jung believed that there were parallels between synchronicity and aspects of relativity theory and quantum mechanics. Jung was transfixed by the idea that life was not a series of random events but rather an expression of a deeper order....This deeper order led to the insights that a person was both embedded in an orderly framework and was the focus of that orderly framework and that the realisation of this was more than just an intellectual exercise but also having elements of a spiritual awakening." (Wiki)

 

What does synchronicity have to do with w/d? Some of us got on these meds in the first place because we were trying to keep going along a socially- and familially-approved path. Some of us got on these meds for different reasons, but I think the issue of feeling pressured to conform is pretty universal. For awhile, the meds supported our attempts to fit in, perform, keep up. But, of course, the cost was tremendous -- our adrenals were mined, and, in the end, we still became unable to keep up and fit in, after all. Having to get off these meds and then recover from them is forcing us to take better care of ourselves than we ever have in our lives.

 

We're all looking around us and reconsidering things we had taken for granted -- starting with the role of doctors and Big Pharma in our lives, and proceeding from there to the big questions of what our lives are about and what to do with them. I feel like I have learned the hard way that my life works better not when I try to conform to what is considered normal, but when I do exactly what I want to do.

 

This is a lot harder than it seems! I was raised in a country founded by Puritans and in a family that's very driven. I have been so trained to make myself do what I "should" and to "do my homework before I go out and play" that it's super-hard to trust that if I follow my intuition, I will be safe, have enough money, be a good person, etc. (You may be thinking that you or someone you know does *too much* of what they want to do, and is not disciplined enough. I would argue that when you're doing what you really, really want to do -- ie pursuing your dreams -- you're not so interested in over-indulgence.)

 

As I emerge from the depths of w/d, and try to live in a new way, I am finding that I have a lot more synchronicities than ever before. When I get too caught up again in "shoulds" or when the w/d symptoms flare up too much again, the synchros stop happening. So, it seems that when I am healthier and following my inner lights, I get synchronicities. And they are a sign that I'm in the flow, where I'm optimally supposed to be. So, being forced by SSRI w/d to live better has led me to discover synchronicity. Synchronicity, in turn, is leading me toward other intriguing things! More on that later!

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Neuroplastic

As I emerge from the depths of w/d, and try to live in a new way, I am finding that I have a lot more synchronicities than ever before. When I get too caught up again in "shoulds" or when the w/d symptoms flare up too much again, the synchros stop happening. So, it seems that when I am healthier and following my inner lights, I get synchronicities. And they are a sign that I'm in the flow, where I'm optimally supposed to be.

Ha! Same here. :)

 

Great read, Healing!

 

I then wish Flow to all of us.

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Altostrata

One day a few months ago I was contemplating the role laughter might play in recovery. I had just read an article about Dr. Madan Kataria and his laughter yoga in the New Yorker (August 30, 2010). I got to thinking about starting a laughter therapy group, and looked up his book on the Web.

 

Then I went out for a walk. On my way home around sunset, I found Kataria's book on the sidewalk. (People in my neighborhood often leave perfectly good things on the sidewalk.) It looked like a new, unused copy. Took it home and laughed about it.

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Healing

OMG! Wonderful story!

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summer

One day a few months ago I was contemplating the role laughter might play in recovery. I had just read an article about Dr. Madan Kataria and his laughter yoga in the New Yorker (August 30, 2010). I got to thinking about starting a laughter therapy group, and looked up his book on the Web.

 

Then I went out for a walk. On my way home around sunset, I found Kataria's book on the sidewalk. (People in my neighborhood often leave perfectly good things on the sidewalk.) It looked like a new, unused copy. Took it home and laughed about it.

 

Wow... had to shake off a few chills!

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Neuroplastic

Had a synchronisity today. It was neat. Waiting for some deja vu now. LOL. It's always there when the window opens, or so I hope. Bump to the synchronisity thread.

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Phil

WOW, Alto. I got the chills too reading that!

 

Your post is fantastic, Healing. I get what you mean about "following your inner lights", that's something I'm learning too through withdrawal. I've become more sensitive to the sheer tension of trying to be what I think others expect..and learning to just drop it and follow my own path. I feel much more self-respect and confidence when I do that.

 

I always used to put synchronicities down to co-incidence, but sometimes they can be truly freaky. Eg: I'm talking about something with my friend, and suddenly the exact same subject or words appear on the TV at that moment.

 

Something funny: my friend is superstitious, he hates black cats. But yet they *always* seem to cross his path. Once, we were going over to his house at night, and a black cat actually followed us to his house, and sat outside the door. Haha. I dunno what sort of synchronicity that is.

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Barbarannamated

Alto, that is wild!

GREAT message on synchronicities. I have had a 'quantum year' to put it mildly. I had been a hard science person, analytical in everything, not in tune to intuition, so this has been a paradigm shift that has shaken me to my boots. I've met very few people who I can talk to about it and trying to integrate old beliefs with events that are unmistakable evidence of the interconnectedness of all things. One person told me that I'm 'right on schedule in feeling like I'm losing my mind'. That didn't help!

Much more to it, but THANKS for this post.

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mandy

Hi. Well, as I wrote in my introduction, this topic brought me to this forum. Last year, when I was on 50mg paroxetine/day I experienced a bunch of strange things, which included synchronicity. There were quite a few situations of "smaller synchronicities"... people calling when I thought of them, I had a situation when I decided to get a cat. I had no specific wishes on which breed or something like that, just regular cat.

 

And in the morning I contacted a girl on online small ads site, she was giving away one. We were supposed to meet week after, as she said she would lie to meet potenital new owners. Cat was about 2 years old, which was not my ideal option, but it was house trained, which was good, as my work does not give me much time to actively train the cat. That same day when I made contact with cat owner, in afternoon, when I went home from work, in front of my apartment building, few kids were playing with stray kitten, cute and small one, which they found abandoned in the street, and they were asking passing people if someone will adopt her. It was a lucky concidence, i thought it that time.

 

As time passed, some other strange thing happened to me, people contacting me, for no apperant reasons, but later it turned out that they were deeper ways in which I could help them, and they could help me. Like making a connection on some deeper level, even energetic level.

 

Weirdest case of synchronicity (i call it that) happened one evening. I went for a walk in town with no intention, I left myself open to whatever comes along and grabs my attention, whatever way it takes me. I walked along the 4 lane street in the near of my apartment. As I walked along the wall of small shop on the side of the street grabbed my attention. There was a star painted on it, yellow one. I just noticed it andd tried not to make anything of it at the moment. The glass wall of closed shop accros was covered with adds, posters, banners... I decided to cross the street and see if something would grab my attention. As I glanced on the glass and stuff on it, the street light behind my back started shivering, blinking. I turned around and made a few steps towards the street light, and it stoped shivering. I turned again, started walking towards the glass wall again, and the light started shivering again. At that point I turned and walked all the way to the light. (Light was street light on a tall post).

 

There on the post, someone sticked a add for giving instructions in maths, it was an add with "pull me" contact info, with street address and phone num. I took one and decided that I should go to that address. I walked about one mile to that address, and on that street number there was ordinary building, with flats in it, and on the front wall there was a lighted panel for cardiovasculary ordination which was in the building on the 2nd floor. Ordination had the name "Heart", which was painted in red on the sign. At that point I didn't quit had a urge or feeling do go anywhere, so I just stood a few seconds in front of the building.

 

And when I turned around, first thing I noticed in the sky, was extraordinary bright star in the sky. Due to configuration of the location you just could not miss it. Later I found out that it was Sirius, and it was especially bright that evening. When I later thought about it, it came to my mind that that building is one of the rarest places in my town from which there is unobstructed view to the sky , and from which Sirius could be seen that evening. (building is located at the edge of big parking lot, almost 800m wide - so there are no trees or buildings to block the view). I'm not sure if it was pure synchronicity or my subconcius wishing to find the star. But it was pretty brrrrr experience. I would more than like to hear your's opinions on my event. Cheers.

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Nikki

Last week Deepak Chopra said "don't ignore coincidences"....to me that is synchronicity.

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

This is my first attempt at posting outside my intro topic. If you happen to read my intro, I think I have posted some real nonsense there. But my nonsense might spark someone's insight or ?. Reading others' postings has certainly sparked mine.

 

I didn't notice the "synchronicity" surrounding a book I mentioned until I started reading this thread this morning. I wonder if synchronicities are a bump, nudge, shove towards something undefinable. I have to look it up but I want to say the "numinous".

 

Not only did I unexpectedly CT off AD's but my whole lifestyle has changed. When I stumbled into a whole new world of people getting off AD's and living with whatever they got before, during and after AD's, I saw/see the CT as a 'synchronicity'. Certainly this state I'm in now can be described as a different hell than the ones I've had, physical withdrawal for example. But maybe a better and necessary one?

 

In the past I was always searching for "mystical" experiences and have had some I consider like WOW! Basing my life on them resulted in something I'll call 'not good'. But I wonder if they set the stage for what's happening now and are a nudge toward something 'better', like a tease of what can happen if persist, perfectly or not, in letting my 'everything' recover or shift into something different.

 

I've oftened wondered why, when I've discovered the "why" of whatever it is I'm trying to figure out, the answer doesn't help. Like finding out that my current feeling state has a name and happens to many when AD's are stopped. Anhedonia, depersonalization, apathy, etc. I still have it and think I don't want it. Living in it and not obsessively trying to make it go away seems wrong. But I'm going to do it anyway. These may be the last few seconds of my physical life (insert any disaster here) or not, and if not, would/will synchronicities be enough to nudge me along?

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elbillingino

I started seeing too many seemingly synchronous events when a few weeks on Paxil back in the mid 00s sent me borderline psychotic!

 

Nevertheless, they do occasionally happen and it can be pretty amazing. I remember about 6 months ago myself and a couple of friends decided to watch a DVD. I went into the other room to search through my DVDs and in my absence one of them suggested Casino and the other enthusiastically agreed. Well, I own that DVD and took about half a minute to pick it out at random - completely unable to hear their conversation. Needless to say when I walked in holding a copy of Casino (proclaiming enthusiastically, as both of them had in my absence, that it was a "fantastic film") both my friends were dumbstruck. We happily spent more than three hours watching it through to its gory, violent conclusion.

 

Not the most profound story in the world, I'll admit!

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JanCarol

Bump!

 

The Celestine Prophecies goes a step further.  I have always thought of synchronicities as "I'm in the right place at the right time, doing the right thing."  Like a confirmation.  Celestine Prophecies claim that the synchronicities will guide you to "following your inner lights," as Healing so aptly put it.  That they are navigational tools - follow the synchronicities to a more genuine you.

 

I've been having a few synchronicities of late - minor ones, and always enjoy the bliss that unfolds when I am aware of them.   Unfortunately, I promptly forget them.  There is of course, the possibility that I've been having them in the decades of being drugged, but deadened to them while on the drugs.

 

I came here because I googled SA and "laughter yoga."  What a hoot!  So Alto - you been doing the laughter yoga? (when I learn more, I'll start a topic, it's worthy of its own topic, I just don't know anything about it yet)

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Ayaa

I’ve also experienced synchronous events few times in my life. And the latest one relates to this forum. Few days before I saw here a topic about the dreams and what they represent. I wanted to write there about Jung's Theory of Dreaming. But while I was composing my message the topic was lost (I think it was moved to another place) and I tried to find it by searching engine. The keyword “Carl Jung” has taken me to this topic and I was really astonished to see here discussion about Jung’s synchronicity. Because right now I am rereading the book of Michael Talbot “The Holographic Universe”. If to be more exact – the chapter “A Flaw in the Fabric of Reality”, which is dedicated to the phenomenon of… synchronicity :)

 

There is debate over whether these events are statistically rare, but essentially meaningless, random coincidences, or whether they show that there is an underlying framework to reality that we don't fully know about yet. Some people think that synchronicities are caused by unconscious psychokinesis. In other words, I wanted to see a butterfly at that moment, so I unconsciously dragged one over from wherever it was before.

 

 

Yes, people debate about it since Jung introduced his concept in the beginning of XX century. Many believe that synchronicities are chance occurrences and also criticize his theory of archetypes which stands behind this phenomenon. One day, while talking with the psychotherapist (who was “strict Freudian”) , I mentioned “synchronicity” and then he broke out into exclamations against “Jungian damnable heresies”. And  the same thing happened when I told about my interest to synchronous events to my psychiatrist. He paid extreme attention to my story and, looking at me suspiciously, said that he has some patients with Schizophrenia who like to “find meaning and significance where there is none” (this unmotivated seeing of connections was called by him “Apophenia”). I did not want that he doubts my sanity and since then I’ve never shared my thoughts about this kind of things :unsure:

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manymoretodays

Yeah, I think the pros would somehow find it pathological of disease.

 

Every time I become aware of it though it is a very positive thing.  How can that be disease?

 

I went to the laughter yoga page that I googled.  It was all so funny.  Specific instructions and all.  I wish I could find a local group.

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Ayaa

Is there a topic about the laughter yoga? I googled, but could not find. It sounds interesting :D

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manymoretodays

Thank you.  I found another one, same person............he is a one and only!  Another site where you could learn to lead a group with his instructions.

 

This one is wonderful!

 

They are laughter yoga clubs(not groups as I said).  Maybe meet up has some.  That is a thing here in the states that helps people find local groups of interest.

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Ayaa

Thank you, CC :) But I am a little bit confused now. Actually I was thinking that the laughter yoga is something like Frank Farrelly’s Provocative therapy. But it seems to me different… I can’t understand why people are laughing without reason :blush:

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