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6 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

Here's your homework: You're going to have to look up instructions for taking Armour Thyroid and decide the best time of day to take it that's several hours apart from your other drugs.

 

22 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Is there another time of day when you can take Armour Thyroid? When you take 2 drugs close together, we can't tell which is causing what. I have a feeling we've discussed this before.

 

Do you also take supplements in the morning? What is the reason you cannot take Effexor at the same time each day? It's important you do this.

 

Are you drinking caffeine? We've discussed that before, too, correct?

I thought that I do take Effexor regularly?   I was under the impression that the Effexor needed to be taken within a 2 hour window?  I thought this is what I read on here.  I have been trying to take it regularly so I normally look at when I took Effexor yesterday and try to take it within 1 hour of that time the next day.  Is an hour too much variation?  It is going to be difficult to stick to that rigid of a schedule if it can’t vary at all.  Just being honest.  For example if I set to take it at say 11am, I might have an appointment and not be able to get back to take it exactly at that time.  Then I have to remember to take the pills with me if I go somewhere.

 

 Yes, we talked previously about taking the pills at separate times and these are the issues that I ran into when I tried separating them.  I would forget to take the Effexor with me when I left for work and then feel sick at work.  Or I would be out during the day and busy doing stuff and forgot about it.  It messes me up way more to completely forget taking it then it does to take it a few hours late.  Also, you had said I would need to take them several hours apart.  I was taking more supplements then and figured out that this would not be feasible because I would be taking pills all day long and there were still not enough hours in the day.  Plus, I did not want to take it too late in the day and have it interfere with my sleep.  I can remember to take it first thing in the morning because that is my routine that I have been doing for years and I have the pill case sitting right on the table where I eat breakfast.  Taking the pills throughout the day did not work good for me b/c I could not remember to take them.  So that is why I went back to taking them at the same time.  Also, both meds stay in my system all day anyway so even if I separate them I still don’t know how I would tell what I am reacting to.  I would think I could still be reacting to them all day.  

I understand the rationale for taking them separately but I would prefer to take them both together in the morning before work,  so I can remember to actually take them.  I can try separating them again though if that is what you want me to do.  I am just not sure that I will remember to take them.
 

 I looked up about Armour Thyroid like you suggested.   I read that it can interfere with sleep if taken late.  The Effexor definitely interferes with sleep.  So I don’t think that I should take either late.  This is far too complicated.  That is why I went back to taking them together, because it was too complicated.  
 

I am sure that I am reacting to the Effexor because when I reduced it last time a lot of symptoms diminished, such as amplified heartbeat and anxiety and my sleep improved.  Plus, I had a lot of side effects to the high dose of it.  Even if I am reacting to Armour Thyroid then there is really nothing I can do about that anyway because I have to take it.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Hi Superwoman, been reading your thread. That's a very interesting article Alto posted.....I'm also on Venlafaxine 75mgXR, so am watching your progress. I'm nowhere near being ready to taper, still wo

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Something to consider:

 

convenience

 

possibly feeling a bit better

 

possibly working out what is causing an issue

 

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ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

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I guess I could take the Effexor at 11am when I wake up and the Armour Thyroid at 1pm right before I leave for work.  That way I will not have to worry about trying to remember to take it to work and it will be a couple of hours apart.   Some days it may be 11:30am that I take it, if I sleep in a little later.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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2 hours ago, Superwoman said:

I was under the impression that the Effexor needed to be taken within a 2 hour window?  I thought this is what I read on here.  I have been trying to take it regularly so I normally look at when I took Effexor yesterday and try to take it within 1 hour of that time the next day.  Is an hour too much variation?

 

YES, THAT IS TOO MUCH VARIATION.

 

Nobody here ever said Effexor may be taken within a 2-hour window. I believe I personally asked you to be consistent with your drug dosing maybe 6 or 8 times? Please show respect for my time.

 

Please figure out your drug schedule, post it here, and commit to it. If you can't do that, we can't help you.

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On 11/9/2020 at 11:02 PM, Altostrata said:

 

Please figure out your drug schedule, post it here, and commit to it. If you can't do that, we can't help you.

I will try separating the drugs and coffee again.  I will drink coffee when I wake up (usually 11am), take Effexor at 12pm, and Armour Thyroid at 1pm right before I leave for work.   This is the best that I can do.  I will do my best to stick as close as possible to this schedule.     
 

My work schedule and setting does not accommodate the drug schedule that you are  asking me to do.   I do not wish to keep discussing this matter.  It appreciate your advice.  You have helped me a lot and I hope that we can still continue to work together.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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2 hours ago, Superwoman said:

I will try separating the drugs and coffee again.  I will drink coffee when I wake up (usually 11am), take Effexor at 12pm, and Armour Thyroid at 1pm

 

Is there any reason that you are separating the coffee and Effexor?

 

I can see no mention of the need to separate them.

 

If the issue is the caffeine then you could switch to decaf or coffee substitute.

 

On 11/10/2020 at 3:59 AM, Altostrata said:

Please figure out a drug schedule where you're not taking Armour Thyroid with Effexor and stick to it. They should be at least several hours apart, and neither drug should be on top of another drug.

 

However, there has been mention about separating Effexor and Armour Thyroid.

 

To me it would make more sense to take Effexor at a regular time when you first get up and then take the Armour Thyroid later in the day. 

 

Just a thought.  How long does it take you to get to work?  If it takes 1/2 hour you could take it with you and take it before work.  If you take Effexor at 11am and Armour Thyroid at 1.30pm that is 2 1/2 hours apart.  Obviously you would need to work out how to transport your Armour Thyroid dose and store it in the correct manner.

NEW!!!              INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder               NEW!!! 

 

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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2 hours ago, Superwoman said:

I will drink coffee when I wake up (usually 11am), take Effexor at 12pm, and Armour Thyroid at 1pm right before I leave for work.

 

How long have you followed this schedule? If 3 days, please start posting your daily notes again.

 

As we've reminded you many times, you need to stick to a consistent drug schedule for us to make sense of your symptom pattern.

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7 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

How long have you followed this schedule? If 3 days, please start posting your daily notes again.

 

As we've reminded you many times, you need to stick to a consistent drug schedule for us to make sense of your symptom pattern.

I only have been following this drug schedule as of Sunday.  Yes, I will post my daily notes.  I still need to post last weeks notes.  The notes from last week will not be this drug schedule, as I had not started it yet.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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21 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Is there any reason that you are separating the coffee and Effexor?

 

I can see no mention of the need to separate them.

Yes, I inferred this from what Alto said a long time ago.  See below.  She suggested that I taper off caffeine completely.  I tried going off of caffeine, but it was hard to function, concentrate at work, wake up in the morning and get anything done because I have so much fatigue.  So I started drinking coffee again out of necessity.  
 

Alto said that in effect I am taking two drugs at the same time and they ask people to separate drugs.  I inferred from this statement that coffee is considered a drug and drugs need to be separated.   I concluded that if coffee is considered a drug and I am going to drink it then I probably need to separate it from the other drugs.  I believe that I need to separate the coffee, Effexor and Armour Thyroid.  
 

Is that a correct understanding?

 

On 11/3/2019 at 12:43 PM, Altostrata said:

I understand that you like your coffee in the morning, but the adverse effects from it are confounding possible side effects from Effexor.

 

In effect, you are taking two drugs at the same time of day. We always ask people to separate dosing to find out which drug is causing the adverse reaction.

 

When it comes to caffeine, it's best to taper off it completely, as it could be causing anxiety throughout the day and poor sleep at night.

 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Saturday November 7, 2020

 

Reduced Effexor 10% from 75mg to 67.5mg

 

10am: wake up before alarm, brain zaps 

10:30am: breakfast, 1 C. Coffee, amplified HB 1
11am: ok

11:30am: Reduced Effexor xr 67.5 mg. anxiety 2 lasting 1 hr. 
12:30pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

1pm-3:30pm: lunch, visiting w/ family, sharp pains in body 3, anxiety 2, fatigue 4

3:30pm-5pm: jaw tension 2, fatigue 5, anxiety 1
5pm-8pm: jaw tension 4, fatigue 3

8pm-9pm: brain zaps 2, jaw tension 4
9pm-10pm: amplified HB 1, jaw tension 4

10:30pm: Epsom salt bath 2 cups
11pm-12:30am: jaw tension 5

12:30am: buzzers, 4 droppers C. Poppy, EO’s 
1am: bed

 

Notes: brain zaps 2, amplified heartbeat 1, electric shock like sensations 3, anxiety 2, fatigue 5, jaw tension 5, 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Sunday November 8, 2020

 

11am: wake up

11:30am: breakfast, 1 C. Coffee , depression 1
12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg

12:30pm: hypervigalence 10, husband yelled my name and I screamed 
1pm: same,  Armour Thyroid 120mg
1:30pm: brain zaps 3, left eye twitches 2, lasting few seconds 

2:30pm-3:30pm: depression 3, sharp pains in body 2
3:30pm: walk dog, depression 3, shortness of breath 1, brain zaps here and there 3, Fatigue 6

4:30pm: jaw tension 2
5pm-5:30pm: nap

5:30pm: irritability 3, brain zaps 3, general blah feeling, jaw clenching 4
6pm: dinner, feeling a little better 

6:30pm-10:30pm; brain zaps 3, jaw tension 5, general malaise 3
10:30pm: acid reflux 2

11pm-12:30am: anxiety 1, jaw tension 4, brain zaps 3, sharp pains body 3
12am: C. Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s, buzzers 

12:30am: bed, trouble falling asleep 3, cold extremities 3
 

Notes: depression 3, hypervigalence 10, brain zaps 3, left eye twitches 2, sharp pains in body 3, shortness of breath 1, fatigue 6, jaw clenching 5, irritability 3, malaise 3, acid reflux 2, anxiety 1, insomnia 3, cold extremities 3

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Monday November 9, 2020

 

10:30am: wake up brain zaps 1, depression 1

11am: breakfast, 1 C. Coffee, depression 1
11:30am: depression 1

12pm: Effexor xr 75mg 67.5mg (see this post), depression 1
1:30pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg, irritability 5

2pm-9:30pm: depression 3, anxiety 2, agitation 2
8pm: acid reflux 3, bloating lasting 2 hrs

9:30pm: amplified HB 2, brain zaps 2
10:30pm: shortness of breath 2

12am: jaw tension 2, muscle tightness 2
1:30pm: bed, trouble falling asleep 4

 

Notes: brain zaps 2, depression 3, irritability 5, anxiety 2, agitation 2, acid reflux 3, bloating 3, amplified heartbeat 2, shortness of breath 2, jaw tension 2, muscle tension 2, insomnia 4

 

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1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Last Saturday, you reduced 75mg Effexor to 67.5mg, and Monday, you're taking 75mg again? Why are you doing this?

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Last Saturday, you reduced 75mg Effexor to 67.5mg, and Monday, you're taking 75mg again? Why are you doing this?

 

Sorry, I took 67.5mg Monday.  I accidentally typed 75mg.

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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I don't know what to say. I can't follow a symptom pattern when you make changes continually. I hope this works out for you.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Superwoman
23 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

I don't know what to say. I can't follow a symptom pattern when you make changes continually. I hope this works out for you.

 

On 11/17/2020 at 12:01 AM, Superwoman said:

I only have been following this drug schedule as of Sunday.  Yes, I will post my daily notes.  I still need to post last weeks notes.  The notes from last week will not be this drug schedule, as I had not started it yet.  

The notes up until this Sunday will be changeable because I had not yet come up with a drug schedule.  The more recent notes are as of Sunday are following the drug schedule of coffee when I wake up, Effexor at noon and Armour Thyroid at 1pm.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Just now, Superwoman said:

Armour Thyroid at 1pm

 

5 hours ago, Superwoman said:

1:30pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

 

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ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Also a reduction in Effexor while moving other drugs around. When we say make one change at a time, that's what we mean -- only one change at a time.

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4 hours ago, ChessieCat said:
  4 hours ago, Superwoman said:

Armour Thyroid at 1pm

 

4 hours ago, ChessieCat said:
9 hours ago, Superwoman said:

1:30pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

 

Are you referring to my notes from Monday November 9 where I took the Armour Thyroid at 1:30pm?

 

As I have been trying to explain, I did not start the new drug schedule until Sunday.  These are old notes from last week.  
 

Notes from before Sunday November, 15, 2020 will not be following the new drug schedule or be consistent.  
 

Please note that the notes from last week that I will be posting will not be following this new drug schedule of Effexor at noon and Armour Thyroid at 1pm as it is from before I started following it.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Tuesday November 10, 2020

 

10am: wake up 1 hr. before alarm with anxiety 2, irritability 4, agitation 4, breakfast, 1 C. Coffee 

11am:Effexor xr 67.5mg
11:30am: walk dog, flat mood 2

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg
1:30pm: anxiety 1, agitation 3, irritability 5, neuroanger 5

2pm-4pm: anxiety 4, shortness of breath 4,, irritability 3, agitation 3
4pm-6pm: anxiety 3, irritability 3, air hunger 3, agitation 3

6pm-8:30pm: anxiety 1, irritability 5, jaw tension 2
8:30pm-10:30pm: feeling a little better, anxiety 1, excessive yawning 1, irritability 1, brain zaps 3

10:30pm-12am: brain zaps and headaches 3
12am: C.Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s 

12:30am: bed, insomnia 3, talking in sleep 
 

Notes: anxiety 4, irritability 5, agitation 4, worsened mood 2, neuroanger 5, shortness of breath 4, jaw tension 2, brain zaps and headaches 3, insomnia 3, talking in sleep 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Wednesday November 11, 2020

 

8:30am: wake up 8 hrs sleep, tired, breakfast, 1C coffee 

9:30am: electric shock sensation thumb 2, jaw tension 2
10am-11am: acupuncture, burning sensation stomach needle

11am:Effexor xr 67.5mg

11:30am: ok
12pm-12:30pm: nap

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg
2pm-4pm: brain zaps 1, fatigue 3, depression 2, anxiety 1, excessive yawning 2

4pm-6pm: anxiety 1, flat mood 3
6pm-8:30pm; headaches 2,flat mood 1, irritability 3, Sharp pains fingers

8:30pm-10:30pm: anxiety 1, flat mood 1
C. poppy, EO’s, buzzers
12:30am: C. Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s 

1am: bed, trouble falling asleep 2
 

Notes Wednesday:I think that the acupuncture is helping.   After the last acupuncture appt.I had a headache.  I told the acupuncturist about it and asked if he could do a more gentle, less stimulating treatment.  He took out the large intestine point on the hand.  I felt noticeably more calm at work.  Electric shock sensations body 2, jaw tension 2, brain zaps 1, fatigue 3, worsened mood 3, anxiety 1, excessive yawning 2, headache 2, irritability 3, insomnia 2   

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Thursday November 12, 2020

 

11am: wake up with headache 1, breakfast, 1 C. Coffee, Effexor xr 67.5mg

11:30am: upset stomach 1, headache 1
12pm: feeling better 

12:30pm: anxiety 1, amplified HB 1, sharp pains arm 3
1pm: Fatigue 3, Armour Thyroid 120mg

1:30pm: depression 2
2pm-4pm: feeling a little better.  Anxiety 1, headache 1

4pm-6pm: anxiety 1, flat mood , fatigue 3
6pm-8:30pm: anxiety 4, fatigue 3, flat mood 2

8:30pm-12:30am: ok
12am: C. poppy 4 droppers, EO’s

12:30am: bed, trouble falling asleep 1
 

Notes: Chemical anxiety better than expected.  There was a model at work that I had never done before and I did not feel as anxious as I expected.  Headache 1, upset stomach 1, chemical anxiety 4, amplified HB 1, sharp pains body 3, worsened mood 2, fatigue 3, insomnia 1

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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19 hours ago, Superwoman said:

Are you referring to my notes from Monday November 9 where I took the Armour Thyroid at 1:30pm?

 

This post was made yesterday for a day that was 1.5 weeks.  No wonder we are confused.

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Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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4 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

This post was made yesterday for a day that was 1.5 weeks.  No wonder we are confused.

Sorry for the confusion.  I am trying to catch up on posting the notes.   

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Friday November 13, 2020

 

11am: alarm went off, tired pressed snooze 

11:30am: wake up, breakfast, 1 C. Coffee, Effexor xr 67.5mg, ok
12pm: amplified HB 1

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg
1:30pm: ok

2pm-4pm: anxiety 1, irritability 1, Headache 2 lasting 5 minutes 

4pm-6pm; anxiety 2, air hunger 1, Fatigue 2

6pm: dinner

6:30pm-8:30pm: shortness of breath 1, chemical anxiety 3

8:30pm-10:30pm: anxiety 1
11pm: left eye twitches 1

12am: amplified HB 1, bloating 2, brain zaps 1
12:30am: C. Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s 

1am: bed

 

Notes: amplified heartbeat 1, anxiety 3, irritability 1, headache 2, shortness of breath 1, fatigue 2, eye twiches 1, bloating 2, brain zaps 1

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Saturday November 14, 2020

 

11am: wake up ok, 1 C. Coffee, breakfast, Effexor xr 67.5mg

11:30am: amplified HB 1
11:30am-2:30pm: amplified HB 1
1:30pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

2:30pm-3:30pm: jaw tension 1, amplified HB 1, fatigue 3, headache 1
3:30pm-5:30pm: amplified HB 1, anxiety 1, fatigue 3, shortness of breath 1

5:30pm-7:30pm: amplified HB 2
7:30-9:30pm: amplified HB 3

9:30pm-12am: amplified HB better, acid reflux 2
10pm: 6 tums

12am: C.Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s, vitamin d lotion, Buzzers

1am: bed

 

Notes: amplified heartbeat 3, jaw tension 1, fatigue 3, headache 1, anxiety 1, shortness of breath 1, acid reflux 2, 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Sunday November 15, 2020

 

11am: wake up ok, 1 C. Coffee, breakfast 

11:30am: headache 2

12pm: Effexor xr 67.5 mg
1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

1:30pm: headache 1, malaise 2 lasting 1 hr. 
2:30pm-5:30pm: household chores, ok

5:30pm-6:30pm: anxiety 1
7pm-8:30pm: jaw tension 2

8:30pm-10:30pm: amplified HB 1, jaw tension 1, Headache 2 lasting 15 minutes 

12am: Epsom salt bath 2 cups, ok
12:30am: C, Poppy, 4 droppers, ok, buzzers

1am: bed
 

Notes: headache 2, malaise 2, anxiety 1, jaw tension 2, amplified heartbeat 1

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Monday November 16, 2020
 

9am: wake up, 1C. Coffee, breakfast, 

10am-11am: counselor, tired, irritability 3
11am: nap 1 hr

12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg
12:30pm: headache lasting few minutes 1

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg. 
1:30pm: anxiety 2

2pm-4pm: anxiety and irritability 1, muscle tightness neck 5
4pm-6pm: anxiety 1, flat mood 1, Excessive yawning 1, headache 2 lasting few minutes, Malaise/fatigue 3

6pm: dinner
6:30pm-8:30pm: anxiety 1, irritability 1, Tense muscles neck 4, headaches and brain zaps 3 lasting 2 hrs

8:30pm-10:30pm: feeling a bit better,  Headache 1
12am: C.Poppy 4 droppers, vitamin d lotion, buzzers

12:45am: bed, EO’s 
 

Notes; irritability 3, headaches and brain zaps 3, anxiety 1, muscle tightness 5, worsened mood 1, excessive yawning 1, Malaise/fatigue 3

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Tuesday November 17, 2020

 

11am: alarm goes off, tired press snooze 

11:30am: wake up with headache 2, still tired,  breakfast, 1C coffee 
12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg.

12:30pm: feeling better 
1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg
1:30pm: ok

2pm-4pm: few brain zaps 2, anxiety 1, excessive yawning 1
4pm-6pm: anxiety 3, shortness of breath 3

6pm: dinner, heartburn 3
6:30pm-8:30pm: anxiety 2, fatigue 3, Headache 1

8:30pm-10:30pm: feeling a lot better, anxiety 1, air hunger 1
10:30pm-12:30am: ok

12:30am: C. Poppy 4 droppers, EO’s, vitamin d lotion
1am: bed, insomnia 0

 

Notes: headache 2, brain zaps 2, anxiety 3,  excessive yawning 1, shortness of breath 3, heartburn 3, fatigue 3, insomnia 0

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Wednesday November 18, 2020
 

11am: wake up more rested feeling, 1C. Coffee, breakfast 

11:30am: ok
12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg, brain zaps 1, immediately after taking 

12:30pm: general malaise 2
1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

1:30pm: irritability 3
2pm-4pm: ok

4pm-6pm; air hunger 2, anxiety 1

6pm: dinner, depression 1

6:30pm-8:30pm: anxiety 1, air hunger 1, depression 1
8:30pm-10:30pm: irritability 3, anxiety 2

Headache 2

10:30pm-12:30am: headache 1
12:30am: C.Poppy 4 droppers, vitamin d lotion, EO’s 

1am: bed, difficulty falling asleep 1, Amplified HB 1

 

Notes: brain zaps 1, malaise 2, irritability 3,  air hunger 2, anxiety 2, depression 1, headaches 2, insomnia 1

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Thursday November 19, 2020

 

11am: wake up tired otherwise ok, 1C. Coffee, breakfast 

11:30am: ok
12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg

12:30pm; brain zaps 1
1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg.  

1:30pm: okay 
2pm-4pm: irritability 5, anxiety 1, Muscle tension neck 3

4pm-6pm: anxiety 1, air hunger 5
6pm-9pm: anxiety 1, air hunger 4
9pm-10:30pm; anxiety 1, headache 1
Air hunger 3, fatigue 3

10:30pm-12am: headache 2
12am: C.Poppy 4 droppers, vitamin d lotion

12:30am: buzzers, EO’s 
1am: bed, insomnia 1

 

Notes: brain zaps 1, irritability 5, muscle tension neck 3, air hunger 5, anxiety 1, headache 1, fatigue 3, insomnia 1, muscle tension 3

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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All caught up on symptoms diary. 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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*These are the average score of symptoms that I will use as my baseline to compare against as I taper.   
 

Baseline Symptom Averages (Sept. 14-Nov. 6, 2020) Holding Effexor xr 75mg. 
 

*Worsened Mood= average 2.4, very frequent 

*Low Energy(fatigue, malaise, lethargy)= 4.8, very Frequent 

*Trouble concentrating= 4, frequent 

*Insomnia or trouble sleeping= 2.75, very frequent 

*Anxious, nervous, tense= 3.6, very frequent 

*Shortness of breath, air hunger, excessive yawning= 2.1 frequent 

*Trembling, jittery, shaking= 1, rare

*Irritability= 3.4, very frequent 

*Agitation (restlessness, hyperactivity)= 2.4 frequent 

*Confusion or cognitive difficulties= 4.4, frequent 

*Memory problems or forgetfulness= 4.4, frequent 

*Flu-like aches and pains= 3, sometimes

*Nausea= 3.5, rare

*Diarrhea, loose stools= 2.6, infrequent 
*Stomach bloating= 2.7, very frequent 

*Lightheaded, dizzy spells= 1, infrequent 

*Headache= 2.4, very frequent 

*Electric zap-like sensations in brain= 2.7, very frequent 

* Electric shock-like sensations in body= 2.7, infrequent 

* Muscle cramps, stiffness, tightness= 3 (did not record much data)

* Uncontrollable muscle twitches= 2.3 rare

*Heartburn, acid reflux= 2.9, frequent 

*Urinary frequency, incontinence, urinary urgency= 4.6 frequent 

*Cold Extremities= 3, infrequent 

*Facial, Ear flushing= 1, very rare
*Shiver sensation in body= 1.7, frequent 

*Brain Shiver= 2, very rare 

*Jaw clenching, pain, teeth grinding= 2.4,  frequent 
*Heart Palpitations= 1, frequency= %25 of month

*Talking, yelling in sleep= 2 X per month

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Friday November 20, 2020

 

11am: wake up, tired, otherwise ok, breakfast, 1C coffee 

11:30am: ok
12pm: Effexor xr 67.5mg

12:30pm: still tired fatigue 5, otherwise ok
1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg

1:30pm: ok
2pm-4pm: anxiety 1, bloating 2

4pm-6pm: anxiety 2, air hunger 2
6pm-9pm: anxiety 2, irritability 4, Muscle tension neck 4

9pm-10:30pm: muscle tension neck 3,
Anxiety 1

10pm: brain shivers 2
11:30pm: vitamin d lotion 5,000IU

12:30am: brain shivers 2, brain zaps 2
1am: C. Poppy 4 droppers, buzzers, bed

Insomnia 4, amplified HB 2
 

Notes: fatigue 5, anxiety 2, bloating 2, air hunger 2, irritability 4, muscle tension 4, brain shivers 2, brain zaps 2, insomnia 4, amplified heartbeat 2.  

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Saturday November 21, 2020

 

Period starts

 

11:30am: wake up w/ headache 3, breakfast, coffee 1C

12pm: Effexor xr67.5mg
12:30pm: headache a little better 2

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg, headache less 1
2pm: anxiety 1, brain zaps 2

2:30pm-4pm: anxiety 1, malaise 2
5pm: headache and brain zaps 2, anxiety 2, malaise 3

5:30pm: few brain shivers 2, malaise 2
6pm: few shiver sensations body 3

6:30pm: anxiety 2, malaise 2
7pm-9:30pm: brain zaps 2, amplified HB 2, Bloating 2, fatigue/lethargy 4

10:30pm: muscle tension neck 4, brain shiver 2
12am: urinary urgency 4

12:30am: Epsom salt bath, 4 droppers C. Poppy, feeling better
1am: EO’s, vitamin d lotion, ok, buzzers 

1:30am: bed, insomnia 2
 

Notes: headache 3, anxiety 2, brain zaps 2, fatigue 4, body shiver sensations 3, Amplified heartbeat 2, muscle tension 4, brain shivers 2, urinary urgency 4, insomnia 2, bloating 2, 

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

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Sunday, November 22, 2020

 

On period

 

11:30am: wake up still tired w/ headache and brain zaps 2, coffee, breakfast 

12am: Effexor xr 67.5mg, 
12:30pm: headache 2

1pm: Armour Thyroid 120mg
1:30pm: headache a little bit better 1, still tired 6
3pm-4pm: nap
4:30-5:30pm: yoga, feeling better

5:30pm-9:30pm: brain zaps here and there 2, otherwise ok

9:30pm: anxiety 2

10pm-11pm: shiver sensations body 1
Bloating 3, restless 1

12am: Epsom salt shower 2C, ok
12:30am: EO’s, vitamin d lotion 5,000IU, ok

1am: bed, insomnia 3
 

Notes: brain zaps and headaches 2, fatigue 6, anxiety 2, shiver sensation in body 1, bloating 3, restless 1, insomnia 3

1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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