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Erell

Hi @sunnysideup69 !

 

I think you've put a lot of stress about this visit To your parents, plus the travelling thing.

You're doing great : you have good days and anxiety and dépression are slowly going away.

Remember  : it's only a wave, with triggers. It Will pass and you Will continue To write us wonderful diaries 😘

 

I think of you, and you have all my support  ❤

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37 minutes ago, Erell said:

Hi @sunnysideup69 !

 

I think you've put a lot of stress about this visit To your parents, plus the travelling thing.

You're doing great : you have good days and anxiety and dépression are slowly going away.

Remember  : it's only a wave, with triggers. It Will pass and you Will continue To write us wonderful diaries 😘

 

I think of you, and you have all my support  ❤

You're  a gem, my lovely, and yes, you're right. A lot of what I THINK about my parents is exactly that: just stressful thoughts. I need to listen to the YouTube clip I posted you yesterday 😘

An hour later, the train is hurtling towards Wiltshire and I'm pretty much ok again. 

I'm learning very gradually to cope with the anxiety/ panic. Managed to distract myself on my phone and to feel into the sensations. One day, I want to be med free and I really want to be able to mood manage with non drug techniques, certainly getting lots of practice right now.....

Thank you for your kind reminder xxx

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Another note to self; must remember to note down gastro symptoms of this mini wave. Gone from constipated to non constipated. 

My guts are a bit out of order since August. The 20mg Cit caused some chronic diarrhoea, and I've had issues ever since. I'm not constipated in that I can't go at all, it's just that the swapping antideps seems to have weakened my body's natural peristalsis (think that's the word.) Other days it's ok. Wondering if this is a common withdrawal effect.

Now sitting with parents quite peacefully. Anxiety is subsiding gradually. Still have some flu type symptoms.

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So glad To read that anxiety is subsiding! 

The YouTube clip is hard for me To understand,  but thanks To my benzo WD i've learned some mindfulness exercices. Not easy To practice with my strong émotions,but at least sometimes I manage To observe my thoughts ;)

 

Enjoy your day ! You're doing great !

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Ugh, I'm ill, so it seems, have woken up shivery this morning after a bad sleep and feeling a bit flu-like. Stomach feels really off. Seem to have a virus, it's not withdrawal because I started to get these symptoms about a week after going back to work. Unfortunately, getting sick has also kicked off a mini wave. Will post yesterday's notes.

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Notes for Monday October 21st

 

Awoke at 3am, went back to sleep

5am woke with palpitations, feeling anxious

6am anxiety at 4...wonder if it's connected to going home today? Or because I'm physically ill? Stomach bloated, digestion feels a bit off, random stomach pains, also feel like I have a virus; headachey and shivery. But also intrusive thoughts of arguing with parents, 'fortune telling.'

6am warm Epsom salts bath

630 am eat breakfast, digestion weird, feeling 'belchy' ( sorry, it's gross but true)

7am Venlafaxine 75mg XR and anxiety is still around a 4

830 take 2200mg fish oil and 300mg mag citrate ( took extra mag in one go because I feel so anxious but this may have been a mistake...)

9am leave for Paddington station, anxiety still around a 4/3, nervous about going home and seeing parents

940 arrive at very crowded Paddington and anxiety hits a 6, I have palpitations bit I also don't feel physically well with cold, which isn't helping. Feeling tearful. Legs feel like jelly, gut churny

(also wondering whether I had too much magnesium in one go earlier)

1030am train departs, anxiety back to about 3

1145am arrive back in Chippenham, walk home

12pm arrive home, feeling a bit subdued but it's nice to see parents

1230 pm eat lunch, my appetite is a bit 'off', partly anxiety partly cold, force myself to chat and be sociable but it's difficult as anxiety still 3

1600 my mood is lifting, I'm less anxious, around a 2 or 1, now just relaxing around parents

Still have shivers like I'm harbouring a virus

Rest of evening is ok until.....

2000 go upstairs and lie down to listen to meditation, do my usual accidental falling asleep and wake suddenly at 2230 with anxiety, about a 3, palpitations, very uncomfortable

Hear my parents coming up to bed

Lie in bed, anxiety gradually subsides and I fall asleep but it's fitful

 

Feeling a bit disheartened this morning as I write, because I'm still having greater anxiety. Mods or anyone, is this a wave? Wondering if physical illness could have triggered it? 

Wanted to be well for my visit home, so it's a bit frustrating to be feeling so crappy. Is it also 'normal' in a wave to kind of forget the bigger picture? This morning I'm feeling gloomy like I'm going to get worse and worse and never stabilise......it's like I've forgotten all the progress I was making.

@Gridley or anyone, please send some encouragement. Have to get on a train today and go back to London...

 

I know the answer to this really, but is this a case of stabilising and letting time pass? Even though I'm.having this glitch, would the advice still be tomhold and stabilise? It's so easy to think 'I need more drug' but I've learned with the Citalopram that updosing doesn't make the  fluctuations go away. I had a psychiatrist follow up booked for Friday, booked it ages ago, but cancelled it at the weekend. I know they will just say updose, as will GP, so I've decided, am just not going down that road. 

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Dear @sunnysideup69,

 

I Feel sorry for this anxiety you're experiencing. But I also I'm very confident: you've healed incredibly! And you Will continue To heal. 

 

You're experiencing a wave that shake your confidence and give you doubts. I know how it feels ;)

 

I give you all my support, and a big hug, if you  like them.❤

 

You're on the good road! 

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1 hour ago, Erell said:

Dear @sunnysideup69,

 

I Feel sorry for this anxiety you're experiencing. But I also I'm very confident: you've healed incredibly! And you Will continue To heal. 

 

You're experiencing a wave that shake your confidence and give you doubts. I know how it feels ;)

 

I give you all my support, and a big hug, if you  like them.❤

 

You're on the good road! 

Thank you, definitely need that hug today, in a wave and feeling bad. Mostly anxiety. Gosh, it's exhausting. Hard to remember the good days when feeling like this. On the train back to London. My stomach is really, really sore and digestion is very off. It's an effort to eat anything today, everything tastes like cardboard. Also been experiencing some dizziness with the anxiety today, which is new, will include in today's notes. The stomach issues are definitely connected to Citalopram withdrawal, spoke to a friend who cold turkeyed off it and she had the same thing. Anyway, at Reading now, will soon be in London. I've been making my own probiotic drink, kefir, and drank it all of last week, perhaps it also affected my stomach. Might just lay off every supplement apart from fish oil and magnesium now.

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7 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

 

Feeling a bit disheartened this morning as I write, because I'm still having greater anxiety. Mods or anyone, is this a wave? Wondering if physical illness could have triggered it? 

Wanted to be well for my visit home, so it's a bit frustrating to be feeling so crappy. Is it also 'normal' in a wave to kind of forget the bigger picture? This morning I'm feeling gloomy like I'm going to get worse and worse and never stabilise......it's like I've forgotten all the progress I was making.

@Gridley or anyone, please send some encouragement. Have to get on a train today and go back to London...

 

I know the answer to this really, but is this a case of stabilising and letting time pass? Even though I'm.having this glitch, would the advice still be tomhold and stabilise? It's so easy to think 'I need more drug' but I've learned with the Citalopram that updosing doesn't make the  fluctuations go away.

These ups and downs are perfectly normal, from day to day and throughout the day. I can have a poor morning and a reasonably good afternoon or vice-versa. If it continues for quite a while, it's a wave, which is also normal.   

 

Physical illness definitely can trigger symptoms.

 

Yes, when you're in a bad spot, it's very easy (and normal) to forget the big picture.  We all do that.  

 

Yes, it's a matter of stabilizing and letting time pass.  Time is the great cure.  You don't need more drug.  Fluctuations are part of the healing process.

 

You will do fine on the train!

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@Gridley, thank you, I know its a bit needy, but I just needed to see that written down. Overall, I am doing ok. Thank you to you, @Erell, @Altostrata and all who volunteer here. Thank God for SA.

PS journey was fine and I'm feeling happy I managed to survive at home, don't think parents realised I'm freaking out :D

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Gonna put this out there as my hope for the future. I'm a qualified psychotherapist, as well as a primary school teacher. I currently use my therapy skills to offer counselling for the pupils at school, but have stopped at the moment to focus upon my own healing. My three days part time teaching work is what I can cope with right now.

 

I was thinking about supporting myself with some counselling at the moment, but as a trained therapist, I have to say that there is a real lack of knowledge amongst colleagues about the effects of antidepressants/ stabilising/ withdrawal etc.

 

When I'm better, I think I'm going to put myself out there as a specialist in that very area. Might even start a support group for people coping with AD withdrawal and stabilisation. 

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It sounds like a lovely dream!!! Step by step, this situation Will be known..And your idea would be a terrific step!

 

Now that you're back home, enjoy your sweet cocoon 😚

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Notes for Tuesday 22nd October 2019

 

Really fitful, anxious sleep, didn't check times, awake so often, not much sleep. Often, palpitations on waking.

530am fully awake, anxiety 5/6, breathless and palpitations

600am downstairs to make tea, feeling fluey and miserable

630 feeling nauseous but eat a banana in prep for meds

7am Venlafaxine 75mg XR anxiety around 5

Between 6am and 7 am have had to use bathroom about 3 times, stomach very gurgly and digestion 'off'

8am eat breakfast, really not enjoying, another trip to the loo

830 tiny bit calmer, anxiety around 5/4, still have nausea, random pains in gut

930am up and chatting to mum and running a bath, notice belly is really distended/bloated, seems to occur when anxious

10am anxiety around 4, feeling tingling and weakness in my arms, nose blocked, tension like a tight band around stomach

11am do meditation, feeling a bit calmer, anxiety around 3, still have very gurgly gut

1200 eat lunch with parents, anxiety strangely begins to rise again, reaches about 4

130pm leave to catch train back to London, some anxiety on train but it starts to decrease

1530 arrive back home, anxiety about 3, go out to buy food, also suddenly hungry after having no appetite for 48 hours

1600 anxiety goes to 0 from here in, had a pretty 'normal' feeling evening

2200 go to bed, have not slept in the day, fall straight asleep

 

 

 

 

 

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A friend sent me this yesterday, writing from Jeff Foster

 

WE ARE WARRIORS OF ANXIETY

Sometimes anxiety lives as a gentle rumble in the background of our daily lives.

But sometimes, the floodgates of our experience are flung wide open, and raw anxiety surges in the body like a tidal wave.

Maybe we are going through a tough time in our lives, a crisis, a change, the end of a relationship, an illness, the sickness or death of a loved one, or the falling-away of an old dream or "safety net", and scary thoughts trigger an anxiety response in the body. Maybe our anxiety comes out of nowhere. Maybe we are touching into a past trauma, and old painful feelings are threatening to emerge into conscious awareness. Maybe we are simply imagining things that aren’t really true, invoking things that aren't really there. Maybe something just needs to be processed in us, dealt with, felt to completion, brought into love, integrated into a bigger picture of self.

Yes, sometimes anxiety comes, unwanted and unexpected, into the foreground of conscious experience, instantly bringing a pounding heart, a racing mind, heat and sweat and tingly limbs, nausea and tightness in the belly and chest and throat, and a feeling of the ground falling out from under us. We feel like we want to run, to crawl out of our own skin, to escape to safety, to find solid ground again...

Anxiety can be mild, or it can be really intense and scary and powerful like this. When anxiety comes in such a tidal wave, it can really feel like “Something is going horribly wrong!”. Our thoughts may tell us that we are about to die, or pass out, or have a heart attack or stroke, or go completely mad, or lose ourselves in some terrifying void.

The anxiety itself can feel unsafe. We can become anxious about our anxiety!

The truth is, these symptoms of anxiety are completely safe. Pounding hearts are safe. Muscle tightness is safe. That ‘sinking feeling’ in the belly is safe. Racing thoughts are safe. Heat and sweat and that dizzy, groundless, disconnected feeling is totally safe. It might not feel safe in the moment, it might not feel pleasant, but it’s totally safe. It is just a passing storm of sensation and thought. It’s the body deep in protection mode. It’s nature at its most brilliant and ancient and fierce. It doesn’t mean that something “bad” is happening or is "about to" happen.

We learn to ‘lean in’ to the storm of our anxiety, to let the body do what it’s doing. To recognize that we are experiencing anxiety in the present moment, to name the visitor, to bring mindful awareness to it, and to compassionately touch into it, with courage and slowness and breath. We begin to allow the heart to race and pound, and we allow the shakiness and trembling and the heat, and we allow the tight belly and the tingles and that doom-laden sinking feeling. We allow the moment as it is, messy and intense and uncomfortable and alive, as it is. We tell ourselves, “Yes, I am experiencing anxiety right now, it is really really intense, but it is totally safe, it is the nervous system rushing to protect the organism, and nothing more than that, and it will pass, and I can hold it all…” We learn to step into that bigger part of ourselves, that ever-present Being in the midst of the somatic storm.

We learn to stop fighting the anxiety, to stop shaming it, to stop calling it bad or wrong or dangerous (and if these thoughts come, we recognize them as anxious thoughts too!). We learn to stop running from our anxiety, stop trying to get to some “safer place”. We learn that the safest place is actually right here, where we are, at the very heart of our anxiety! We learn to bow to anxiety’s awesome power and intelligence, and to ride the wave of anxiety as it arises, reaches its peak, and crashes back to its source.

We become warriors of anxiety! We get brave enough to touch into our fragility and vulnerability, to meet this most sacred and ancient of somatic visitors, which is only trying to protect us, keep us safe, and remind us of our true power.
 

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Thanks for the post on my thread. Im pretty sure your right and everything will settle down again but like always in wd there is always that doubt until it happens.

 

Caught up on your thread and looks like your now trying to stabilise after switching to venlafaxine. Hope your doing ok and that anxiety settles down. Im lucky that anxiety has only really been a minor symptom and never had the physical anxiety symptoms that so many get. Seems like I’ve had every other symptom but that one which I’m thankful for.

 

As you know it can time after changing so try to be patient and try to stick to same dose for to give yourself the time you need to get there. All the changes do add up so can take a while to settle.

 

Take care 

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Just now, Tom37 said:

Thanks for the post on my thread. Im pretty sure your right and everything will settle down again but like always in wd there is always that doubt until it happens.

 

Caught up on your thread and looks like your now trying to stabilise after switching to venlafaxine. Hope your doing ok and that anxiety settles down. Im lucky that anxiety has only really been a minor symptom and never had the physical anxiety symptoms that so many get. Seems like I’ve had every other symptom but that one which I’m thankful for.

 

As you know it can time after changing so try to be patient and try to stick to same dose for to give yourself the time you need to get there. All the changes do add up so can take a while to settle.

 

Take care 

Thanks Tom, appreciate the support. Yeah, I did a switch, got impatient, but switching has brought its own issues. I've made so many changes and I've now learned the hard way that the issue was never really about 'needing a new antidep.' Although, the Citalopram got totally fed up with me and I couldn't keep anything in. So I felt I had to do something.

I've also learned the hard way that psychs have no idea, really. Paid around £625 in August to switch and have a follow up, to be still in this 'stabilising' situation. Ouch! Was getting that info for free, here. So, this forum is now my advice centre, I've realised first hand that psychs and gps are really uninformed about this process.

So yep, now waiting to stabilise. It's a long winding road, this.....no more switching or updosing for me. Have had some really good stretches of time where I feel 'normal,' so am hanging in there. Going about my 'normal' life as much as possible, working part time, socialising every now and again. Coping as best I can with withdrawal symptoms, which have really been building up since October 2017, am now realising. Hopefully in another couple of years, I'll be stable...and I also hope it happens sooner than that.

Have a good day, Tom!

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Ok, so I think I'm in a bit of a wave. Realising I have been feeling progressively worse since Saturday, thought it was a cold, but am now realising all the symptoms are also indicative of WD.

I've been under the weather, achey, dizzy, headachey, shivery ie temperature dysregulation, and my gut has been dodgy. Super anxious, bit panicky, palpitations and also super flat and finding sleep a bit tricky.

Does this sound like a wave? I hope it bogs off soon. Luckily am on half term break, but it's frustrating as there were loads of things I wanted to do...but all I feel like today is vegetating on the couch. Walked a long walk this morning but now feel exhausted, didn't get the usual lift from it.
 

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Sounds like a wave which will pass. Try to  think of it as the nervous system doing it’s thing trying to heal which we have to go through to get to the other side. The emotional and sleep being affected are always the worse so hang in there until it passes 

 

Hopefully you will feel but better afterwards as your overall baseline continues to rise but it can be very slow going and it’s probably better to look at your progress in months not days or weeks.

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Feeling tearful this morning as I write, feeling so crap.This definitely feels like a wave, I'm really 'off', and the symptoms I thought were a cold are probably WD. Dizziness, heightened anxiety, palpitations, gastric disturbances, low humming in ears, slept for hours yesterday, want to withdraw. No sense of taste.

 

Notes for Wednesday 23rd October 2019

 

Woke early, didn't see time, restless sleep for a while

450 awake

5am make tea, stomach less gurgly, anxiety 3, headache behind brow and dizziness

7am sore gut, headache, take Venlafaxine 75mg XR

8am warm bath plus 2200mg fish oil, 150mg magnesium cit

830am lower colon pain

9am 5k walk then grocery shopping, mixed feelings, anxiety about 3, flatness of affect 2

1115 arrive home and prep lunch

1230 eat lunch, still have headache, anhdonia/flatness around 3

2pm wave of tiredness/apathy 4, feel like napping, feel exhausted, shivery

3-5pm nap, tiredness 5

5pm wake from napping, feel exhausted and drained 5, humming in ears 

6pm eat super feeling disheartened 5

7pm to 2230pm  in and out of sleep on sofa

All afternoon, since lunch, my stomach has been very noticeably gurgly- can hear all the digestion, feeling vaguely nauseous

2230 bed

 

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Wish I could post a photo of the chart I made, but I can't. I've made a kind of monthly 'at a glance' calendar of symptoms but it's very basic, uses colour to show either anxiety symptoms or depression symptoms, and have shaded relevant portions of the day.

 

I can see at a glance which weeks have been worse for symptoms, since switching to Venlafaxine.

Week 2 was bad, mostly anxiety

6th week was bad, mostly anxiety

10th week has been bad, mostly anxiety...have had  physical symptomof dyspepsia and dizziness this week, whereas before mainly psychological

Longest window has been 7 whole days, and that was after the last wave, so.........

 

Actually have noticed that after every wave, I've seemed to have a better week. Is this what is meant as the withdrawal baseline improving? Then the process of ups and downs seems to start again until another wave occurs.

 

Waves scare me and make me believe I'm not making any progress. I kind of give in to the second fear and then gradually realise what I'm doing. I've realised that this morning. I'm also 'fortune telling' and predicting a disaster. Really need to learn to distract because how can I know what will happen at Christmas when I can't even predict tomorrow?
 

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Hmm...I've been having epsom salts baths most days, plus taking magnesium, and my stomach and digestion have been really gurgly and weird, and I have some gut pain over the last few days. Am wondering if I'm overdoing the magnesium? I might hold off on the baths, or just use it in the bath every few days.

Anyone think this could be linked? 

I take 150mg tablet of mag cit in the morning

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4 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

taking magnesium, and my stomach and digestion have been really gurgly and weird, and I have some gut pain over the last few days. Am wondering if I'm overdoing the magnesium? I

 

The most common side effects of magnesium supplements are stomach upset, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea (as nearly all forms of magnesium have a laxative effect).

 

Sunnysideup, it looks like you're getting too much magnesium.  The baths are gentler than the supplement.  You could eliminate the supplement and see if symptoms subside.  If they do, you could reintroduce the supplement but in a smaller dosage.

 

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3 minutes ago, Gridley said:

 

The most common side effects of magnesium supplements are stomach upset, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea (as nearly all forms of magnesium have a laxative effect).

 

Sunnysideup, it looks like you're getting too much magnesium.  The baths are gentler than the supplement.  You could eliminate the supplement and see if symptoms subside.  If they do, you could reintroduce the supplement but in a smaller dosage.

 

 

Thanks Gridley. I'm gonna stick to a couple handfuls in the bath. I also eat a LOT of cashews, which are high in mag, I do believe, thank you, this could have solved the sore stomach mystery. Could too much mag also cause anxiety? 

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23 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Could too much mag also cause anxiety? 

I haven't seen anything that indicates magnesium causes anxiety, but we all react differently to supplements, so it's possible.

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I haven't seen anything that indicates magnesium causes anxiety, but we all react differently to supplements, so it's possible.

Ok, thanks Gridley, I think the magnesium is definitely upsetting my gut; or rather, I'm getting too much, via bath and supplement. I've had dyspepsia and nausea this week, I reckon that's why. So, will lay off the supplement for a bit.

Also last week, I was drinking home made kefir every day, so my gut was getting probiotics, too. Poor gut, I've probably overloaded it a bit.

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Today, I have mostly sat on the sofa, recovering from a bit of a wave. I think it's on the way out. Tomorrow, am hoping to have my first run in nearly two weeks. That will be nice. Reflecting on how weird this whole process is. I feel like two different people. There's the calm, regulated me, typing this. Then there's the dysregulated one. Very, very strange, it all is.

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Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it. Bit of rumination this morning/if only ....but I'm going to share what I've learned over the last year. I wish I'd found this site this time last year, as I would've understood that I was kindled, and it would have changed my actions. However, I didn't, and must accept what has happened and how it has changed me over the last twelve months.

 

There's actually been some really positive growth from this, too, such as better boundaries with my family and at work, as I don't have the energy to be a 'rescuer' any more. I'm learning to take care of myself a whole lot better. I've also made some really positive changes in my diet, I've started yoga and I'm meditating daily.

 

First thing I've learned is about the ten per cent or less taper; it's really, really important. There is no such thing as 'too slow.'

 

Second thing I've learned, which has been a bit scary, is that a huge chunk of medical professionals really don't understand the impact of antidepressants on the nervous system. 

 

The third thing I've learned is that treatments such as acupuncture are not always helpful. I believe that the acupuncture that I had from January to April caused a flare up in my anxiety symptoms and caused my crash in May.

 

The fourth thing I've learned, and I've learned it the hard way, is that updosing and switching drugs does not lead to faster recovery. I ignored advice, got impatient and switched. Not only did that cost me £850, but I'm still basically in the same boat ie trying to stabilise. Ouch! Lesson learned.

 

The fifth thing I'm learning, albeit with difficulty, is how to manage anxiety. This emotion really has been at the root of all my problems over my lifetime. It was the reason I used to self medicate with illegal substances. And it was the driver of my depression and the reason I took antidepressants. My vision is of living a happy, fulfilling, medication-free life one day and I believe it's possible.

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Notes for Thursday October 24th Spent the whole day on the sofa, so knackered after last couple days

 

4am wake with anxiety 5, knot in stomach, back to sleep

530am wake, anxious 5, palpitations, knot in stomach, 

6am nauseous and shaky

7am feeling briefly dizzy- this symptom is often here and I forget to mention it

7am Venlafaxine 75mg XR realise I'm inconsistent, some time before food, sometimes after. Will stick to after food.

720am begin eating breakfast, really not hungry, kind of forcing it in

820 run an epsom salts bath, forgot I was running it and water runs cold- so I'm straight in and out

830 resume eating breakfast, dyspepsia 5, anxiety 5

930 anxiety beginning to calm, feeling hunger so I snack

1030 have to run to loo AGAIN (about 4th time already today)

1030 2200mg fish oil, 150mg magnesium citrate

11am ANOTHER loo trip

1145 anxiety has calmed down now 3

Spent the morning figuring out whether I could drop to two days work at school as of December. Financially, I think I could.

1230 ate lunch feeling more relaxed anxiety 2

1430 stomach pains, post about magnesium, seem I may be overdoing it so will cut out supplement and stick to baths for a while

1530 hungry again

1630 anxiety spike for about 30 minutes, no trigger after this, anxiety completely subsides and I feel 'normal' rest of evening

2100 turn computer off; was aiming to wait an hour before sleeping, but am tired, go to bed, fall asleep immediately

 

 

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Need to note this; at the weekend in the UK, the clocks go back an hour. I've never worried about this before, but I know Venlafaxine can be a bit difficult if taken late.

 

Wondering whether I should still continue to take my Ven at 7am (which in fact will be 8am old time)? It's an hour's difference. However, as I'm taking the extended release version, am hoping this time glitch won't cause too many problems.

Also, if I adjusted according to movement of clock, it would mean taking it at 6am, which is too flippin early.

Ugh. Hope this won't affect me.

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Hi you :)

 

don't be sorry about my thread, this time change is a bit confusing ;)

 

How are you Today? Do you find your waves flatten  ? 

 

Hugs ! 

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55 minutes ago, Erell said:

Hi you :)

 

don't be sorry about my thread, this time change is a bit confusing ;)

 

How are you Today? Do you find your waves flatten  ? 

 

Hugs ! 

 

Hello lovely, haha, I was busy catching up with you and thought I had switched to my own thread....it is a bit confusing, but I've decided to just take it at 7 new time. An hour difference shouldn't be too bad.

Well, Monday and Tuesday were horrible, with some relief in the evenings; Wednesay was horrible and I slept so much. Yesterday, I stayed on the sofa all day, BUT I think the wave has started to go. Am not waking up so anxious today.

I have temporarily upset my stomach with too much magnesium, but apart from that, I reckon things are calming down, thank goodness. Even going to try a gentle run this morning. Had about 7 hours sleep, too.

How are you?

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I'm so glad your wave is leaving you !

 

I'm still in the wave, trying To surf with anxiety and dépression, mostly at 6 rate.

I look forward for lower intensity ! 

Have To be patient ...:)

 

Have a Nice day 😙

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323349.php

 

Interesting. Stopped my magnesium supplement today because after convo with Gridley yesterday, realised I was overdoing it, what with having epsom salts baths too, every day.

Found this today, have been experiencing lots of those symptoms.

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Guilietta

Hello sunnysideup,

 

Good signs - a respite from a wave and able to go for a run (and then come back and sit on the sofa). Isn't it nice when will power and motivation comes back (for a visit).

 

It is that time of year - fall back by one hour. I still don't now why we do this. Have you thought about moving it by 30 minutes? Do you think that might make a difference?

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Guilietta said:

Hello sunnysideup,

 

Good signs - a respite from a wave and able to go for a run (and then come back and sit on the sofa). Isn't it nice when will power and motivation comes back (for a visit).

 

It is that time of year - fall back by one hour. I still don't now why we do this. Have you thought about moving it by 30 minutes? Do you think that might make a difference?

 

 

 

 

Hey Guilietta, how ya doin? Oh it was lovely to jog for a bit....but I hav some gut pain so I had to stop early. We figured out too much magnesium, so I've stopped my supplement and am just doing baths every other day of epsom salts.

It was good to get out, it's so good to feel like doing something, for sure. This week has been a bit of a wipeout but I think it's resolving. How are you doing??

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Hello there!

 

I am doing OK -  bit of anxiety about going out in the car today - but managed the round trip. :)   As Erell knows I have been looking for a winter coat - and got one today at a huge discount. :):):) Everyone loves a bargain. 

 

What amount of magnesium were you taking before? It washes out of your system. I am taking magnesium (300 mg).

 

All in all the week was OK - although yesterday I had severe anhedonia - the entire day. Otherwise - the usual collection of anxiety, tinnitus, etc. 

 

Tomorrow or Sunday I will start beads of cymbalta (hopefully 2 will be enough - .4 mg). A bit nervous that it won't be enough. I do'nt want any (more) sysmptoms as I  can function now. Thankfully.

 

Will you take a break tomorrow from running?

 

 

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