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@BreathofAir

Good morning Rachel, 

Really helpful info about the acupuncture, thank you! Will mention this to her, basically I'm asking for as much relaxing and stabilising as possible, but it helps to know I'm not alone in the 'spiking' affect. Another friend of mine, being treated for hormonal issues, has said the same thing re treatments sometimes aggravating her anxiety. 

 

You made me laugh re the moxa sticks. Some of my acu points get the moxa treatment during a session. Last time it got too hot on one point, had to ask her to stop. Once long ago, I tried those Hopi Ear candles on my own...... Never gonna repeat that experience! 😂 It was a disaster. 

 

I agree, suggestion is really powerful. As is gratitude. When I'm in a pit, I force myself to find one thing to be grateful for.... I see it as a bit like tweaking the electrical circuits in my brain. Doesn't seem to do much at first, but cumulatively, it diverts the signal to a different place. A better one. I really have come to see the brain and nervous system as a computer. Some days, ruth.exe has crashed, and some days is running okay.

 

Hoping your thumping headache has gone this morning, ugh, they are the worst. Wishing you a calmer day today, with a happy window. Lots of love, prayers and healing your way x

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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 Not wanting to trigger anyone reading this, but honestly.......

 

Had to go for general woman-issues type check up.One of those post 50 type screenings.  After that, saw different GP at surgery. She asked how I was having restarted Citalopram 10mg last August, and I gave her an honest answer. Can you guess what her advice to me was?...........( sorry, there's no prize for guessing).......

 

 

Yep. Updose. To 20mg. <insert expletives here>

 

Next time, I think I am just going to lie and say everything is fine and I'm skipping around like a shimmering, candy-floss-pooping unicorn.

 

So far at the surgery, have seen three GPs since reinstating. Here is the selected advice.....

'If 10mg isn't making you better, then don't updose. We could try something else.'

'10mg is such a tiny dose.'

'10mg doesn't sound like it is quite getting you there. You started here (pointing to the floor), now you're here (pointing midway) and we want you here (pointing upwards.)Updose to 20mg.'

 

I'm seriously considering searching for a GP or psych who is on board with withdrawal and the negative side effects of antidepressants.

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Hi  do you know there is a list of GPS and doctors who do know about withdrawal somewhere on this site never checked don't know how much is for the UK but might be worth a look sorry this is a bit crap using voice recognition on phone catch you later sassenach

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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@Sassenach- ah great! I have seen it, you've reminded me it exists, than you....will take a look around now......

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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On 5/30/2019 at 4:31 AM, Ruthmcg said:

 I'm skipping around like a shimmering, candy-floss-pooping unicorn.

 

😄  Thanks for making me laugh today!

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2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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@Songbird

Ha! Glad to make you laugh, it's the least I can do as a thanks for your support x

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Hi

 

Did your dad tell you the meaning of Sassenach ?

I am trying to get as many UK members as possible to take or send a copy of  "The Royal College of Psychiatrists " report to their local GP surgery preferably with a letter pointing out that their current guidelines are now officially wrong.

I am already at odds with my GPs so looking forward to it but I realise not everyone may want to do so.

Leave it with you.

Have a good evening

 

Sassenach

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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@Sassenach......ah, yes, he did.....so you're not a Scot? You're English? I would love to to take such report to my local GP, what's the name of the report and can I just download it online? Would give me great pleasure to wave it at doctor 'you can just updose to 20mg.' Grrrrrrr.

 

Have a good evening. It's warmed up in London and I'm gonna get some fresh air in the back garden.

Hope your day was good,

Sleep well,

Ruth.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Morning

 

Will send later today.

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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sunnysideup69

@Sassenach

Morning! Wishing you a great day, thank you x

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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BreathofAir

Thanks for the hug .  Had a stinky day. Hope tomorrow is better. Hope you have a nice weekend. 

 

Bless you. Heal well and sleep well. 

 

R xxxx

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Morning

 

Sunny in Scotland this am.

Sun shines on the sassenachs 🤣

Hope you have a good day.

Will send link later, been kinda busy.

 

Sassenach

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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7 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Morning Ruth

 

Sunny in Scotland this am.

Sun shines on the sassenachs 🤣

Hope you have a good day.

Will send link later, been kinda busy.

 

Sassenach

 

Good morning, gorgeous day here, too. Hahaha, gonna tell that to dad...... 

You have a good day too, will check in later 😊

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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10 hours ago, BreathofAir said:

Thanks for the hug Ruth.  Had a stinky day. Hope tomorrow is better. Hope you have a nice weekend. 

 

Bless you. Heal well and sleep well. 

 

R xxxx

 

Thanks Rachel, am sorry to read about your day. I feel so frustrated for you and am hopeful that your nearest and dearest can eventually understand what you are going through. 

In the meantime, we here understand. You can vent here. I'm wishing for you that you have a much better day, in terms of being allowed to feel exactly how you feel with no pressure. 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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sunnysideup69

Note about acupuncture;

 

Spoke to acu lady and told her last two treatments spiked my anxiety. I don't need any 'energising' points. She has taken this on board. I'm gonna send her links about antidepressant withdrawal and acupuncture I've seen on this site.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Hi ,

 

Thanks for you post!

 

I actually read a bit of your story this evening (in NZ) and it’s good to see someone in a similar situation who is further ahead in their journey and not far away from being stable. You will get there soon I’m sure of it. Windows and waves, you’ll be fine.

 

Hope London is treating you well, lived there for quite a few years myself. Great city but bit tiring though when from small town NZ!

 

Will read some more when feeling bit better.

 

Take care.

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20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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withhopeinmyheart

Thanks for spreading positive energy! 

 

Hugs. 

Escitalopram August 2015 - 20mg

Some time in winter 2017 down to 10mg with no problems

May 21 2018 5mg, June 4 2018 2.5mg, June 18 2018 0mg 

October 1 2018 something's wrong 

October 2 2018 arriving in hell

Reinstated 0.25mg

October 27 2018 0.35mg, November 23 2018 0.5mg, November 24 2018 0.6mg

November 28 2018 0.5mg and holding since 

Taking fish oil and magnesium 

L-Thyroxin 50 for Hashimoto's

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Hi , 

 

Thanks for your kind words on my thread. Welcome to SA. You really are quite a ray of sunshine on this site.☀️☀️☀️☀️

 

Keep up the good work, sending hugs🤗

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Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Hi Ruth,

 

Managed to have bit more of a read of your thread and your in a similar situation as I but 3 or so months ahead in your journey. 

 

I see you’ve had a rough month and were getting a bit concerned about going backwards but it seems quite normal unfortunately for that to happen this far out. I’m actually going through the same thing after a couple of months of feeling a lot better with more tolerable waves that were short lived but this one has hit a lot harder and is lasting longer.

 

I try (rarely works!) to look at symptoms in a positive way in that the body knows something isn’t as it should be and is working on fixing it. The fact you have been having good windows is a great sign as shows the body is doing what is needed to make things right. 

 

I think once once you get through this rough patch you will see an improved baseline which hopefully means your not far away from stability. Try not to be concerned that it’s taking this long as not uncommon for it to take 12 months or longer. We all just heal at different rates but we do heal. 

 

You probably know the above from other members but just wanted to reassure you.

 

Take care.

20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Hi Ruth

 

I guess you have been following Rachel's thread and it seems things are getting out of hand.

We need to know what her husband said/did and looks as though it will have to be on PM.

She may not want to tell a man so would you be willing to PM her if necessary.

Feel free to say no as we are becoming embroiled in a situation that could affect us all.

 

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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9 hours ago, withhopeinmyheart said:

Thanks for spreading positive energy! 

 

Hugs. 

 

Hugs back at you x

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Carmie said:

Hi Ruth, 

 

Thanks for your kind words on my thread. Welcome to SA. You really are quite a ray of sunshine on this site.☀️☀️☀️☀️

 

Keep up the good work, sending hugs🤗

 

Aw, thanks Carmie x really very grateful to have found SA. It has given me hope for the future, and the very real possibility of recovering from antidepressants.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Tom37 said:

 

 

I think once once you get through this rough patch you will see an improved baseline which hopefully means your not far away from stability. Try not to be concerned that it’s taking this long as not uncommon for it to take 12 months or longer. We all just heal at different rates but we do heal. 

 

You probably know the above from other members but just wanted to reassure you.

 

Take care.

 

Thanks Tom, all reassurance most gratefully received. It's a weird feature of recovery that, when I'm in a wave, I am convinced I haven't made any progress at all.

And when I'm in a window again, I can see how ridiculous that thought is.

 

I've been okay again since 11am on Wednesday....yep, I even know the time! It was so odd, it was like something literally clicked back on in my brain, everything began to look physically brighter again and I went from being quite lethargic and depressed to suddenly being interested in the world around me again.

 

It's a really strange process, but I have absolute faith that we can all heal and even become stronger from this experience.

Hope you've had a better day. I shall keep following your progress :)

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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On 6/2/2019 at 3:36 AM, Ruthmcg said:

It's a weird feature of recovery that, when I'm in a wave, I am convinced I haven't made any progress at all.

And when I'm in a window again, I can see how ridiculous that thought is.

Oh, this. Absolutely this! Glad I'm not the only one. Another permutation of that is that when I'm in a window, I know this is all withdrawal. When I'm in a wave, though, I'm convinced I have some horrible dreaded disease. Ahhh, withdrawal - the gift that keeps on giving...

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2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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Back in a window since last Wednesday, 29th May. Had some acu also on Thursday, so far so good ie no anxiety, a tiny bit disrupted sleep and some small internal trembling this morning. But...my mood is good, I feel like doing things.

Will be back at work on Tuesday after half term break, a bit nervous because I had to take some days out at end of half term. Explained exactly what was going on to boss ie dealing with high anxiety, sort of briefed him on why I think that's happening, too. He was great, but still, some normal level anxiety about going back in.

 

However, I'm learning not to just blow this energy. Gonna conserve my energy, was gonna go for a 5k walk but now am going to potter around, water the plants.

Thinking about vlogging the windows to play back on my wavey days.

 

I do actually sense that the baseline I'm going back to, after waving, is better. That has to be a good sign.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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sunnysideup69

@Dejavu,

Isn't it just!

Been reading your thread and you've come such a long way. This is like a marathon, isn't it?

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Hi

 

The link I promised for you to wave at your GP.

 

Sassenach

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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sunnysideup69
46 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

 

I can't wait to show them.I may have to go back to Dr Updose especially....😈

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Thank you.

 

First smile toda😀y.

 

You are a tonic.

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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sunnysideup69
2 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Thank you.

 

First smile toda😀y.

 

You are a tonic.

 

Good, glad you're smiling :D We got some weird weather in London in the end....I guess that's justice for me being so 'ooh it's all bright and sunny' this morn. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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Ha

 

Now you know why your dad left Glasgae.

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Oh forgot

 

Sunny out now, so there and its warm, so there!!!

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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sunnysideup69
1 minute ago, Sassenach said:

Ha

 

Now you know why your dad left Glasgae.

 

😂 I do recall it raining very much.

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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sunnysideup69

Ok, quick note. 

 

Again, it's day 4 after acupuncture. AGAIN, I feel a bit weird this afternoon. Not a huge anxiety spike however, but I had a nap after lunch  and I woke up feeling reaally super tired and a bit drained. So it's this '4 days after' pattern again.

I did have to go out to supervision this morning, but I don't think that exhausted me...I've been out this weekend, and haven't felt like this until today.

 

Hmmmmm. Not quite sure why this would be. Back to work tomorrow so have some lurking anxiety about that, but this feels neurochemical...and these feelings are always accompanied by that strange buzzing/humming in my ears, as if I can hear my own brain. Mood is still okay, though.

 

It's as if the acupuncture changes the action of the citalopram about 4 days after the treatment. Which I guess makes sense, as it works on the nervous system. It creates a mini- wave.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also currently reducing caffeine, aiming to get off.

 

 

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BreathofAir

Hi again , 

 

I always feel tired after acupuncture.  If you do feel wiped out,  it’s a sign you need a rest because you’re depleted.  Drink a lot of water also, but I’m sure you know this!  Don’t overdo the exercise.  Given that it stimulates your nervous system and releases chemicals into your brain, there’s no doubt it will have an effect on what the Citalopram is doing.  You will pick up again, just rest and take it steady at work. 

 

R xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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