nimdornn: amitriptyline / Elavil withdrawals

[nimdornn]

5 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Do what you can to make offering this free, volunteer support (that is nonetheless very complicated and difficult) easier for us and resolve ambiguities in your signature, please.

 

 

Probably.

okay i changed it i hope thats a little bit better. also, i kind of want to stay off of it, life is pretty good still i only suffer really from the pain, and the weird eating thing so part of me thinks that therapy will help greatly. 

[Altostrata]

A lot of people seem to benefit from omega-3 fish oil and magnesium, see
https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/
https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

 

Please let us know how you're doing. If your symptoms get worse, you may wish to consider reinstating.

[nimdornn]

On 8/29/2020 at 8:26 PM, Altostrata said:

A lot of people seem to benefit from omega-3 fish oil and magnesium, see
https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/
https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

 

Please let us know how you're doing. If your symptoms get worse, you may wish to consider reinstating.

just for an update, I am seeing a GI specialist and am getting a barium swallow test done and a endoscopy. IF both of these show up negative i will reinstate.

[Altostrata]

If the symptom came out of nowhere after a drug change, it's probably the drug change causing the symtoms.

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

[nimdornn]

Just now, Altostrata said:

If the symptom came out of nowhere after a drug change, it's probably the drug change causing the symtoms.

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

Well, Even when i was taking the drug there was a good handful of times where when i ate i got this horrible pain, so what the doctors and i are thinking is that the elavil covered up the pain from the GI issues, I think that makes a lot of sense. Do you think reinstating will solve these issues

 

[Altostrata]

I have no idea. It could be you eat stuff that makes you sick. It could be you have some gastroenterological issue AND withdrawal syndrome. It could be withdrawal syndrome alone.

[nimdornn]

1 minute ago, Altostrata said:

I have no idea. It could be you eat stuff that makes you sick. It could be you have some gastroenterological issue AND withdrawal syndrome. It could be withdrawal syndrome alone.

okay, Part of me really wants to just go back on it for good again, and not taper off it for a long time. if i was to do that would i still wanna start at tthe 2.5mg that we discussed?

[nimdornn]

On 8/28/2020 at 8:57 PM, Dejavu said:

You should DEFINITELY start lower!!!! You've been off almost two months. During that time, your brain will have made some adjustments to being without the drug. Also, your brain and CNS is already sensitized from the cold turkey 2 months ago.

 

We recommend that you initiate a very small reinstatement, wait for it to reach steady state in your system (4-7 days), after which we can evaluate and updose slightly if needed. Reinstating a too-high dose can lead to kindling, prolong the wait for stability and cause symptoms to get even worse. We often find that tiny reinstatements go a very long way. Another reason for starting low is that, if the reinstatement does not work, you will not have bombarded your sensitive nervous  system with a massive dose, and if it does work, you will have less to taper off after you stabilize. 

 

I am thinking a reinstatement of perhaps 2mg would be reasonable, but I am tagging some of the more experienced mods for their advice and assistance. @Altostrata @ChessieCat @Gridley @composter @Shep - do you have better advice for nimdornn?

 

I do want to say that I am personally glad you are going to reinstate. I know it was the best decision I've ever made. We have a number of members who decided against reinstatement and who are still struggling with significant withdrawal symptoms months and in a few cases, years down the road. 

Does reinstating and then tapering slowly really make it that much easier being off the drug??

[Dejavu]

 

[nimdornn]

Hey guys, just a little update. had a barium swallow test today. Showed moderate acid reflux and poor coordination of the muscles in the esophagus. So unfortunately i can not continue to not eat and i must take the Prilosec, as it should help those problems for now till i see the GI guy. I heard that Elavil is actually used to treat both of these symptoms and problems, therefore they may ask me to reinstate at the full dose. any suggestions on what i should do or should i just follow the docs. (I have an amazing care team that i work with) 

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by ChessieCat
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[ChessieCat]

29 minutes ago, nimdornn said:

I heard that Elavil is actually used to treat both of these symptoms and problems, therefore they may ask me to reinstate at the full dose.

 

Because your system may have become sensitised, it would be better to start with a small dose to see how your react to it.  Some members of SA have reinstated too high a dose and it has made them worse.  It is better to start low and increase a little at a time than to risk taking too much.

 

Please read Post #1 of this topic which explains why we suggest starting with a low dose.

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by ChessieCat

[ChessieCat]

On 8/29/2020 at 2:53 PM, ChessieCat said:

 

Doctors think in terms of therapeutic dose, which an arbitrary dose decided on by the pharmaceutical companies.

 

If you decide to stay on the drug because it gives you pain relief then it is better to be on the lowest effective dose.  It would be less of a drug burden on your body.

 

 

Just a reminder.