☼ Junglechicken

[Flowers]

That is outragious JC!  I wouldn't want to work for anyone that does that so maybe it is a good thing.  Hopefully Thursday will work out better.

 

Not sure what impact running can have on  the body but it must shake everything up!lol!

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Junglechicken]

Flowers - tell me about it!

 

As they say, "its not in the bag till its in the bag".

 

They're amateurs.

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I'm seeing my therapist tomorrow, so will ask her about the "niggles". 

 

I expect she'll tell me to resist seeing the doctor like she did last time, and guess what the red spots at the back of my tongue were "nothing", AND I saw the hygienist this AM!!

 

[Junglechicken]

Still suffering with an upset stomach / GI distress

 

I'm stressed, and I also put my shoulder out from being tense at the keyboard.

 

Can't contact my ND as she has had enough of me!

 

I'm really NOT a happy chicken today 

[Frogie]

25 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Still suffering with an upset stomach / GI distress

 

I'm stressed, and I also put my shoulder out from being tense at the keyboard.

 

Can't contact my ND as she has had enough of me!

 

I'm really NOT a happy chicken today 

JC:

 

I'm sorry you are going through what you are.

 

I know exactly how you feel. I have been nauseous for a month now. It's just everything that has been going on.

 

Take a deep breath and know everything will be ok.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Thank you Frogie,

 

I really appreciate you being there.

 

How's little Brownie doing?  (love the name!!).

 

JC xxx

[Frogie]

Just now, Junglechicken said:

Thank you Frogie,

 

I really appreciate you being there.

 

How's little Brownie doing?  (love the name!!).

 

JC xxx

You are always there for me. We are here for each other.

 

I think Brownie is acting better. She eats better than me. I'm now making her dog food with lots of veggies and turkey meat. We have to take her back to the vet next month for a re-check.

 

Don't feel bad about your ND. Every time I go to the dr, he walks in the room and goes, "Oh, hi.", like its you again.

 

I have been nauseous for a month, I thought it was gone, but I'm sure mine is just nerves.

 

Thanks for asking. Good luck on the job hunting. You will land the perfect one!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Frogie,

 

You could say that GI issues etc., are part of our "job description", lol!

 

Lucky Brownie getting such nice food!! Wow, that's better than the food I cook for my hubby (joke ).

 

So happy that she's doing better now.

 

I will land the perfect one eventually.....was discussing it with my therapist this morning.

 

Hey ho Frogie, on we must march.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

Just now, Junglechicken said:

Frogie,

 

You could say that GI issues etc., are part of our "job description", lol!

 

Lucky Brownie getting such nice food!! Wow, that's better than the food I cook for my hubby (joke ).

 

So happy that she's doing better now.

 

I will land the perfect one eventually.....was discussing it with my therapist this morning.

 

Hey ho Frogie, on we must march.

 

TC,

JC xxx

The GI issues, I could live without that job.

 

She does eat better than me and my fiancé, that's no joke.

 

I feel bad for her, we have to give her 2 pills (tomorrow morning 3). She doesn't understand. And she has to wait an hour before she can eat, she's used to eating as soon as I get up. Her world is upside down. Just like ours.

 

You are right, on we must march.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

I know, the GI issues are a nightmare. 

 

My gut "chemistry" has really changed for the worst, and I'm trying to nurture it back to a healthier state, but struggle with all these special diets etc., etc

 

Emotional stress, well ANY stress just puts it right back where its least happy.

 

You have to eat well too so that you get well Frogie....much as we love our animals, Brownie also needs a healthy mum!

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Junglechicken said:

I know, the GI issues are a nightmare. 

 

My gut "chemistry" has really changed for the worst, and I'm trying to nurture it back to a healthier state, but struggle with all these special diets etc., etc

 

Emotional stress, well ANY stress just puts it right back where its least happy.

 

You have to eat well too so that you get well Frogie....much as we love our animals, Brownie also needs a healthy mum!

 

TC,

JC xxx

I have been soooo stressed about everything, I can't eat. I eat what I can. Toast, bananas, things like that.

 

On my way to get Brownie more food and another pill.

 

Feel better soon.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Interview wasn't that bad.....thankfully.

 

Was not grilled which is what I was expecting - phew!

 

Will just have to wait and see.

 

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I'm into week 4 of my run/walk program, and yesterday ......... OMG was I aching all over?!!!!!

 

That was BAD 

 

I thought my muscle memory would still be there, but it seemed to have gone....as though my body had never been asked to run before.......bear in mind I'm a former marathon runner!  So, I'm thinking it could be age....as I was always strong and fit.

 

The other day (due to feeling tense and nervous), I did my shoulder in.......its fine today.  

 

So whether I like it or not, I'll have to do some strength training, or my body will keep reacting to the impact that running puts on it.

 

Hoping the pain lessens over time.

[Junglechicken]

Always alarming getting pains on the left side of the chest...........they subsided, but I think it was stress leaving my body??

 

My vital stats have always been A-ok, so won't be rushing to the doctor this time.

[Frogie]

2 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Always alarming getting pains on the left side of the chest...........they subsided, but I think it was stress leaving my body??

 

My vital stats have always been A-ok, so won't be rushing to the doctor this time.

JC:

 

I've had a lot of pains like that latley. I know mine is just stress related.

 

I'm sure yours  is too. Just keep an eye on it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Frogie, I think it is just stress.

 

I spent the whole week worrying about this interview.....which turned out ok.

 

Yesterday I ran almost 4k, and I ached from head to toe....literally!

 

Still, thought I would put it down "for the record"; - my mother gets angina and has other heart issues, but she has smoked her whole life and doesn't eat properly; AND she's a boozer.

 

Anyway, its a common stress symptom, so I'll keep that in mind.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Junglechicken]

Ha! just came across this helpful website:

 

https://www.anxietyuk.org.uk/anxiety-type/stress/

[apace41]

15 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Always alarming getting pains on the left side of the chest...........they subsided, but I think it was stress leaving my body??

 

Yes, the joys of living with health anxiety.  I get constant pains in my left arm, left side of my chest, center of chest, etc.  I've had numerous tests in the past 6 months -- some routine and some prompted by my concerns.  All the tests have been great.  I have NO reason whatsoever to think about cardiac issues, except....

 

I DO.  And I obsess.  It is very challenging so I know where you are coming from.  

 

Health anxiety is a form of OCD and in light of that I place it squarely at the feet of my withdrawal process.

 

In time our brains will recalibrate, JC, and the HA will be greatly reduced or disappear.

 

At least that's what I keep telling myself.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Junglechicken]

LOL Andy! 

 

Yes, the health anxiety is a ball and chain.....and its always worse during times of stress.

 

I hope it'll eventually disappear and other things will take its place.....a waste of space in our heads if you ask me!

 

Have to get better at the self talk........I hugged my "sealy" soft toy seal. 

 

He knows me well, LOL  I calmed down after that.

 

Best,

JC

[Junglechicken]

P.S Andy:

 

Forgot to mention, I had terrible deep arm and nerve pain prior to re-instating in 2015.  It was like nothing I've ever experienced in my life, and I was advised to go to A&E to get checked out.  It was nothing.  I had horrendous sciatic nerve pain all the way down my right leg.......it was nothing.  I had horrendous lower back pain......it was nothing.

 

Same ole!

[Frogie]

Just now, Junglechicken said:

Frogie, I think it is just stress.

 

I spent the whole week worrying about this interview.....which turned out ok.

 

Yesterday I ran almost 4k, and I ached from head to toe....literally!

 

Still, thought I would put it down "for the record"; - my mother gets angina and has other heart issues, but she has smoked her whole life and doesn't eat properly; AND she's a boozer.

 

Anyway, its a common stress symptom, so I'll keep that in mind.

 

TC,

JC xxx

I hope you get the job. It sounds like the interview went well.

 

I quit smoking 18 months ago after 30+ years. I feel soooo much better. I don't stink and I can breathe. My EKG and chest X-ray was great in April at my physical.  I don't drink except 1 coke a day, otherwise it's water.

 

I'm sure mine is stress related, because of my baby. I'm sick when I get up. I can't get enough love from her. I hold her a lot and she lays next to me in my chair. My house shows it, but I'm going to give her the best loving days I can. My therapist even calls instead of me going to her office because she doesn't want me to leave her alone. She's eating better and drinking. She's on 1 liquid for her liver that we had to have compounded,  1 pill for her liver and an antibiotic.

 

Im sorry I keep going on about her, but she is my best friend. They give you unconditional love. She has been through thick and thin with me. She's 16, but the vet is optimistic that she can get better.

 

I could never run like that. Years ago, I used to run 2 miles a day/5 days week. Now I have a Pilates machine and stationary bike that I use when I feel like it. Hasn't been in the last few weeks

 

You are an incredible person. You do all these things that are good for your body. You inspire me to eat a little better. More chicken, fruits and veggies.

 

I just wanted you to know, I follow you, and try to do what you do, within reason, lol...

 

I hope someday we can meet. That would be awesome!

 

Now tell me how to get rid of my nausea and GI problems, lol...

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Bless you Frogie.

 

Seriously, I think we're all incredible in our own way.....we all have our crosses to bear, and we're still here to help each other along.

 

Its amazing how powerful the human spirit is, none of us have ever even met; yet here we are....day after day, helping each other through this ordeal.

 

I hope we'll meet too one day.....and am sure we can make that happen.

 

If I was an animal I would be a Labrador.......LOL  those dogs are greedy, its in their genes!!!!! 

 

I can tell you I don't eat the perfect diet everyday, but then my gut repays me with IBS symptoms.  

 

Wish I had a four-legged friend like you do, but I have a 4 flippered friend instead......my "sealy" soft toy, who is almost as old as I am, lol!!

 

TC,

JC xxxx

[Frogie]

7 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Bless you Frogie.

 

Seriously, I think we're all incredible in our own way.....we all have our crosses to bear, and we're still here to help each other along.

 

Its amazing how powerful the human spirit is, none of us have ever even met; yet here we are....day after day, helping each other through this ordeal.

 

I hope we'll meet too one day.....and am sure we can make that happen.

 

If I was an animal I would be a Labrador.......LOL  those dogs are greedy, its in their genes!!!!! 

 

I can tell you I don't eat the perfect diet everyday, but then my gut repays me with IBS symptoms.  

 

Wish I had a four-legged friend like you do, but I have a 4 flippered friend instead......my "sealy" soft toy, who is almost as old as I am, lol!!

 

TC,

JC xxxx

Bless you JC for listening to me cry and fret over Brownie, and never say a harsh word.

 

People come here to get "well". And we run into friends that will be friends forever. I know we will make it happen someday to meet.

 

Brownie is a chihuahua, very loyal to me and a protector. I had a little male Peanut, he passed away 7 years ago of epilepsy. He was my fiancés little buddy. I miss him everyday. Maybe that's why I'm having such a hard time with Brownie. I know dogs don't live forever, but living where I do, I'm not ready to let go. She is my best friend. But I won't let her suffer.

 

Thanks for being there for me. You have no idea how much it means to me.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Flowers]

Hi JC

 

Well done for getting through the interview and I hope it is a good outcome.

 

As Frogie says you do fantastically well looking after yourself and pressing on through the anxiety that is enhanced for some of us when under pressure. 

 

I hate the way anxiety manifests itself in replicating symptoms that could be put down to life threatening illnesses. I know you shouldn't keep rushing to the Dr's but we have to just in case or else we would just drive ourselves even crazier worrying about it!  It can turn into a vicious circle. 

 

I also hate the fact that one day I think I have a brain tumour because I have an unbearable headache only for it to be replaced  the next day with  heart palpitations and I think I am going to have a heart attack. You really couldn't make all this stuff up could you?

 

My health anxiety is there but not too bad really. I really feel for anyone going through this who is living in constant fear of having something terrible wrong with them. It is so cruel what these drugs have done.

 

Thank goodness we have  our friends here  who all understand  how different each day can be and how much we  can help and support  each other.

 

Frogie if you are reading this keep going, you are doing so well in looking after Brownie. I don't think she is ready to leave your side yet.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[apace41]

44 minutes ago, Flowers said:

I hate the way anxiety manifests itself in replicating symptoms that could be put down to life threatening illnesses. I know you shouldn't keep rushing to the Dr's but we have to just in case or else we would just drive ourselves even crazier worrying about it!  It can turn into a vicious circle. 

 

I also hate the fact that one day I think I have a brain tumour because I have an unbearable headache only for it to be replaced  the next day with  heart palpitations and I think I am going to have a heart attack. You really couldn't make all this stuff up could you?

 

My health anxiety is there but not too bad really. I really feel for anyone going through this who is living in constant fear of having something terrible wrong with them. It is so cruel what these drugs have done.

 

Flowers,

 

You are singing from the same sheet of music as I do!  In my case I rarely have concerns about cancer or other illnesses -- only heart and cardiovascular issues.  My father got sick with his heart and a stroke at an age younger than I am now and, I think exacerbated by withdrawal, it is haunting me.  It doesn't matter how different I am from him, how good my test results are, etc., etc. -- each time I get hit with symptoms my reactions are like it is the first time and I have what Claire Weekes would call the "flash" of panic.  And lord knows I'm good at adding the "second fear" to the equation.

 

Driving myself silly at times.  It's very, very hard.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Flowers]

19 minutes ago, apace41 said:

 

Flowers,

 

You are singing from the same sheet of music as I do!  In my case I rarely have concerns about cancer or other illnesses -- only heart and cardiovascular issues.  My father got sick with his heart and a stroke at an age younger than I am now and, I think exacerbated by withdrawal, it is haunting me.  It doesn't matter how different I am from him, how good my test results are, etc., etc. -- each time I get hit with symptoms my reactions are like it is the first time and I have what Claire Weekes would call the "flash" of panic.  And lord knows I'm good at adding the "second fear" to the equation.

 

Driving myself silly at times.  It's very, very hard.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Andy 

 

This is so hard I know. You have my sympathy.  The trauma and shock  that surrounded your fathers demise  had a big impact on you.  Your fears are understandable but anxiety just blows them through the roof doesn't it?

 

I suppose we all have our anxiety triggers. It doesn't matter how hard we try to deal with it the anxiety/ fear is always there lying in wait. My particular triggers are leaving my home for a vacation or being in crowded places but behind it all is the worry that I will get ill while away from home or in a big crowd.  So it is related to health anxiety. I did suffer from this before I was taking any drugs but WD makes it all unbearable sometimes. You wouldn't believe the amount of stuff in my 'medicine bag' I take away with me! It is just a security blanket though because their are Dr's and chemists everywhere in the world. Still won't go anywhere without it!

 

I tried therapy but it didn't help. I managed OK before WD but  I suppose I will just have to live with it and  it is the pits not being able to look forward to going away (when I am up to it) because of the fear building up before and during the trip.  

 

I used to love travelling and managed long haul flights to distant places. Now it just fills me with dread. 

 

When my husband suggests a holiday somewhere instead of being excited my first thought is what if I get ill and spoil the holiday. 

 

Withdrawal from these drugs has put me in the same situation as being physically disabled and not having the capacity to do things. Except it is my brain that is disabled! My friends say I should be able to change my mindset - they have no idea!

 

Sorry JC I have been rambling and don't want to take over your thread! Sometimes something will trigger off these thoughts and it is good to get them down in print!

 

Wishing everyone a peaceful day/evening/night.

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Junglechicken]

Hi Flowers,

 

Just caught up with the chat......I also carry a medicine bag everywhere when I'm travelling.

 

You should have seen the one I took on the cruise!  It was one of those large re-useable Sainsbury's bags and I had a huge tupawear with all my supplements, then my AD medication organiser, then all my wash stuff.

 

It weighed a ton and I took it has "hand luggage".

 

Travelling can be a challenge with all this extraneous stuff to consider.

 

Hugs,

JC xxx

[Flowers]

Hi JC

 Glad it isn't just me that carts around a chemist shop in a bag when going away!!!

 

A reusable Sainsbury's bag would be perfect for the job!

 

Flowers xxx

[Junglechicken]

Oh boy, 2 interview lined up for next week......first is on the 27th and the second is on the 28th.....both for the same organisation, lol!

[Frogie]

Just now, Junglechicken said:

Oh boy, 2 interview lined up for next week......first is on the 27th and the second is on the 28th.....both for the same organisation, lol!

Good luck!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Thanks Frogie!

 

Hope you and Brownie are doing ok.

 

TC,

JC xxxx

[Flowers]

Well done for getting to interview stage - all the best for next week.

 

 

xxxxxxx Flowers

[Junglechicken]

Thank you Flowers!

 

Apparently, this is the first round of interviews.....which means more stages to follow 

 

Hugs,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

5 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Thanks Frogie!

 

Hope you and Brownie are doing ok.

 

TC,

JC xxxx

Hanging in there. Go back to the vet the 1st sat of October, so will know more then.

 

I sit and cry a lot, then become nauseous, a vicious circle.

 

Sounds like you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Is it Brownie's health that's upsetting you Frogie?

 

Are you holding your dose at the moment, or have you done any more reductions recently?

 

Sending you both BIG HUGS and KISSES!

 

JC xxxx

[Frogie]

2 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Is it Brownie's health that's upsetting you Frogie?

 

Are you holding your dose at the moment, or have you done any more reductions recently?

 

Sending you both BIG HUGS and KISSES!

 

JC xxxx

It's Brownie:

 

She's eating, if I spoon feed her (being a baby). But she's 16 and I know she's not going to be here forever. I just sit and hold her or she lays next to me in my chair. I just can't make myself leave her.

 

No still at the same dose.

 

Thanks for asking.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[apace41]

26 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Oh boy, 2 interview lined up for next week......first is on the 27th and the second is on the 28th.....both for the same organisation, lol!

 

Very exciting and promising, JC!  You will do great.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Junglechicken]

Thank you Andy, I hope so!

 

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Something of interest to those of us with health anxiety.

 

My therapist said that it is in fact a narcissistic trait, because it is very inward looking.

 

Its because we're very focused on ourselves..........

 

Hmmm, not good.