☼ dj2010: off all meds for 3 months and been fine now bad insomnia

[powerback]

7 hours ago, dj2010 said:

6 and half hours solid sleep last night which is the most solid sleep had in a long time and was much needed especially for morale,

BRILLIANT DJ 

[dj2010]

2 hours ago, powerback said:

BRILLIANT DJ 

thanks buddy, how are you doing?, travelled up to beacon fell country park today for a nice hike in the hills with the family, really tired out now

[Athena]

DJ thank you for your help on my thread, definitely will try the epsom salt bath tonight, also I have a bad cold so that hasn't helped the sleep. I am so glad your sleep is improving, it is a blessing when that happens isn't it? Happy for you, and it gives me hope for myself as well.

 

Have a well earned rest after your hike. Take care.

 

Athena

[dj2010]

3 minutes ago, Athena said:

DJ thank you for your help on my thread, definitely will try the epsom salt bath tonight, also I have a bad cold so that hasn't helped the sleep. I am so glad your sleep is improving, it is a blessing when that happens isn't it? Happy for you, and it gives me hope for myself as well.

 

Have a well earned rest after your hike. Take care.

 

Athena

thanks Athena, yes this winter has been bad this time around and had many colds myself, sleep is always a lot worse while have a cold and takes a while to get back to baseline after,

 

yes feel blessed every morning wake up after a good sleep, cant wait until that happens every day,

 

going to run myself a epsom salt bath now and wind down,

 

take good care

[Miracle123]

Hi DJ, Thanks for your help and advise on my threat. I really so appreciated you suggest me to take apple cider vinegar. Last saturday i took ACV ,i noticed my stomach not so noisy and gastic calm down a bit. Upon noticed improvement i continue to take until today. Getting better but still need monitor .....even i eat a little bit my tummy getting easy full and vomiting (these few day no eat so much food and no appetite )  Still continue taking probiotic,  ACV and today i try small doses of Slippery Elm Bark is recommended by a pharmacist, she say its good to treat stomach gas, bloating and GERD. I willing to try natural remedies rather that took Proton pump inhibitor,  H2 blocker and others drugs(bad reaction and flare up withdrawal when take it even 1 dose only).  Will come back to chat and updated too. Warmest hugs and take care .

 

[powerback]

On ‎24‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 5:27 PM, dj2010 said:

thanks buddy, how are you doing?, travelled up to beacon fell country park today for a nice hike in the hills with the family, really tired out now

Had a google of that place .looks right up  my street .great day for your family my friend ,may it well  continue .

Take care .

[dj2010]

19 hours ago, Miracle123 said:

Hi DJ, Thanks for your help and advise on my threat. I really so appreciated you suggest me to take apple cider vinegar. Last saturday i took ACV ,i noticed my stomach not so noisy and gastic calm down a bit. Upon noticed improvement i continue to take until today. Getting better but still need monitor .....even i eat a little bit my tummy getting easy full and vomiting (these few day no eat so much food and no appetite )  Still continue taking probiotic,  ACV and today i try small doses of Slippery Elm Bark is recommended by a pharmacist, she say its good to treat stomach gas, bloating and GERD. I willing to try natural remedies rather that took Proton pump inhibitor,  H2 blocker and others drugs(bad reaction and flare up withdrawal when take it even 1 dose only).  Will come back to chat and updated too. Warmest hugs and take care .

 

Hi Mircale, thats great I am really happy its helped you, try a couple teaspoons of ACV in warm water with a tablespoon of raw honey in the morning, its a great immune boosting detox drink to start the day with,

 

take care

[dj2010]

11 hours ago, powerback said:

Had a google of that place .looks right up  my street .great day for your family my friend ,may it well  continue .

Take care .

yeh its great place, use to go there as a kid all the time, hope you are keeping well,

 

take care buddy

[Miracle123]

3 hours ago, dj2010 said:

Hi Mircale, thats great I am really happy its helped you, try a couple teaspoons of ACV in warm water with a tablespoon of raw honey in the morning, its a great immune boosting detox drink to start the day with,

 

take care

Will do it....thanks a lots. take care too.

[dj2010]

43 minutes ago, Dude said:

Apologies for the writing errors, again. But it's the message that counts, I guess

 

P.S.: If you by any chance are near a place where they offer hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT), it might be worth a try. It can be expensive, but it's apparently used by some neurologists to help with the recovery from brain damage (Dr. Harch in New Orleans is apparently one of the leading experts in this area). I underwent it in Ireland over several months in 2012. It didn't cure me completely but it at least seemed to help me recover by about 30% while I was over there, which in turn enabled me to function a lot better. I can't say for sure whether it really was the treatment that led to the improvement or whether it was the passage of time coupled with a strong belief in the treatment's benefits. But it might be something to look into in your case.

Hi Dude is HBOT safe for us in withdrawal? there is a charity offering the therapy for £20 a session only a 40 minute drive from me, I am interested in this:  http://abreathforlife.org.uk/

 

what are your thoughts?

[ChessieCat]

12 minutes ago, dj2010 said:

is HBOT safe for us in withdrawal?

 

Here is SA's topic.  hyperbaric-oxygen-treatment

 

[Dude]

Hiya DJ

 

Well, as I mentioned, I underwent the treatment during the acute phase of withdrawal and had no negative reactions to it. As for how helpful it truly is in a physiological sense I can't say for sure. But anyway, if you want to discuss this topic, might I suggest we start another thread somewhere and have a moderator move your previous post and this one there? This is Marsx' introduction thread after all and I don't want to hijack it.

[ChessieCat]

4 minutes ago, Dude said:

if you want to discuss this topic, might I suggest we start another thread somewhere and have a moderator move your previous post and this one there? This is Marsx' introduction thread after all and I don't want to hijack it.

 

Done.  Very considerate of you.  Thank you.

[dj2010]

thanks for this info Dude, just looking at the existing topic on this but doesn't look like many people tried it, will give it some thought,

 

thanks

[dj2010]

6 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

hyperbaric-oxygen-treatment

thanks for this info

[Dude]

Thanks Chessie. Much appreciated.

[Dude]

2 minutes ago, dj2010 said:

thanks for this info Dude, just looking at the existing topic on this but doesn't look like many people tried it, will give it some thought,

 

thanks

 

Hi again. Personally, I think highly of HBOT in general. When I was in Ireland, people with all sorts of conditions were being treated in the chamber. And some of them had quite impressive results. But I'm not an expert on the subject so I can't really give you real professional advice on it. You might find more information in the thread ChessieCat provided on the subject and might, perhaps, want to do some of your own research. If you're a reader, the "Textbook of Hyperbaric Medicine" might be a place to start. Haven't read it myself, to be honest, but it was recommended to me when I was in Ireland.

 

That being said, you should be aware that for neurological conditions of any kind, 40 consecutive treatments are apparently the norm (consecutive as in five days a week, 1 hour per session; and yep, you read correctly: 40 treatments, not 4 or 10... so that'd make 800 quideroo in your case). Also, different pressure rates (if that's the technical term ) are used for different conditions. They often use a "one size fits all approach" since they usually seat up to ten or twelve people in the large chambers at a time (which was also the case in Ireland), but according to Dr. Harch's website, the role of the neurologist is apparently to specifically "tailor" the settings to your particular condition. Now whether or not that's really the case or just his way of increasing the amount of patients who come to see him I don't know. But you'd want to go somewhere where they really know what they're doing when it comes to neurological conditions.

 

This wasn't the case in Ireland, by the way. They were lovely people, of course, and committed to helping, but the doctor there was a general GP who wasn't familiar with my condition and just stuck me in with the rest of them (call it the "pragmatic" or "laid back" approach to medicine, if you will (i.e.,  the Irish way )). But personally, if I were ever to spend money on that again (which I would if I could afford it), I'd want a neurologist to be making the decisions.

 

So the bottom line, in my opinion, is this: if you can afford it, then go ahead. But just make sure there's a neurologist present who's calling the shots (or at least make sure one has been consulted at the place they're offering it before commencing treatment). Also, although it may indeed be beneficial, don't expect an ultimate miracle to happen.

 

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject. But good luck with it if you do decide to give it a shot!

[dj2010]

2 minutes ago, Dude said:

 

Hi again. Personally, I think highly of HBOT in general. When I was in Ireland, people with all sorts of conditions were being treated in the chamber. And some of them had quite impressive results. But I'm not an expert on the subject so I can't really give you real professional advice on it. You might find more information in the thread ChessieCat provided on the subject and might, perhaps, want to do some of your own research. If you're a reader, the "Textbook of Hyperbaric Medicine" might be a place to start. Haven't read it myself, to be honest, but it was recommended to me when I was in Ireland.

 

That being said, you should be aware that for neurological conditions of any kind, 40 consecutive treatments are apparently the norm (consecutive as in five days a week, 1 hour per session; and yep, you read correctly: 40 treatments, not 4 or 10... so that'd make 800 quideroo in your case). Also, different pressure rates (if that's the technical term ) are used for different conditions. They often use a "one size fits all approach" since they usually seat up to ten or twelve people in the large chambers at a time (which was also the case in Ireland), but according to Dr. Harch's website, the role of the neurologist is apparently to specifically "tailor" the settings to your particular condition. Now whether or not that's really the case or just his way of increasing the amount of patients who come to see him I don't know. But you'd want to go somewhere where they really know what they're doing when it comes to neurological conditions.

 

This wasn't the case in Ireland, by the way. They were lovely people, of course, and committed to helping, but the doctor there was a general GP who wasn't familiar with my condition and just stuck me in with the rest of them (call it the "pragmatic" or "laid back" approach to medicine, if you will (i.e.,  the Irish way )). But personally, if I were ever to spend money on that again (which I would if I could afford it), I'd want a neurologist to be making the decisions.

 

So the bottom line, in my opinion, is this: if you can afford it, then go ahead. But just make sure there's a neurologist present who's calling the shots (or at least make sure one has been consulted at the place they're offering it before commencing treatment). Also, although it may indeed be beneficial, don't expect an ultimate miracle to happen.

 

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject. But good luck with it if you do decide to give it a shot!

thanks a lot for your reply and detailed thoughts on this, im going to do a bit of research and contact them with questions and then decide whether or not will try this,

 

take care

[Dude]

No problem!

[Dude]

In other words: you're welcome! Been living in Switzerland for too long. Different figures of speech perhaps...

[dj2010]

5 minutes ago, Dude said:

In other words: you're welcome! Been living in Switzerland for too long. Different figures of speech perhaps...

 

ive been thinking about booking a holiday to Switzerland, it looks like a beautiful country, looking at going either there or to Prague in the summer, how long have you lived there? 

[Dude]

Too long Since I was a kid. More than thirty years now... The place is indeed quite nice. It's the people (i.e. the mentality) that might take some getting used to. They're friendly (or, rather, polite) towards tourists, but they can be kind of peculiar in their ways. It's what everyone from the UK and Ireland (and other English speaking countries) says after they've been here a while. But it's still a nice place to visit for a couple of weeks.

 

Never been to Prague myself, so I can't tell where you're better off going. But if I had the choice, I'd probably head off to Prague (which is not surprising, considering the other option is the place I'm already in... ).

[Dude]

"The Xenophobe's Guide to the Swiss" (by Paul Bilton) contains the most accurate description of the Swiss mindset and the pro's and con's of living in Switzerland that I've ever come across, if you happened to be interested in learning more about the place before making your decision. But then again, that might be overthinking it. It's definitely a nice tourist destination, that's for sure. And you'll never see a cleaner country in the whole of Europe (or perhaps the whole world) or find a place with a lower crime rate (with the exception of the moon, perhaps). Damn well organized, the Swiss are...

[dj2010]

2 minutes ago, Dude said:

Too long Since I was a kid. More than thirty years now... The place is indeed quite nice. It's the people (i.e. the mentality) that might take some getting used to. They're friendly (or, rather, polite) towards tourists, but they can be kind of peculiar in their ways. It's what everyone from the UK and Ireland (and other English speaking countries) says after they've been here a while. But it's still a nice place to visit for a couple of weeks.

 

Never been to Prague myself, so I can't tell where you're better off going. But if I had the choice, I'd probably head off to Prague (which is not surprising, considering the other option is the place I'm already in... ).

wow 30 years, what a lovely place to grow up, yeh each country seems to have a different mentality towards tourists, lived in Thailand for quite a long time and they were mostly friendly towards me, looks very scenic and natural in Switzerland, ideal place to unwind and lower cortisol levels a bit looks like,

 

yeh Prague looks nice also, my son really wants to visit Prague castle after learning about it at school, really want to visit it myself also,

 

cheers

[dj2010]

7 minutes ago, Dude said:

"The Xenophobe's Guide to the Swiss" (by Paul Bilton) contains the most accurate description of the Swiss mindset and the pro's and con's of living in Switzerland that I've ever come across, if you happened to be interested in learning more about the place before making your decision. But then again, that might be overthinking it. It's definitely a nice tourist destination, that's for sure. And you'll never see a cleaner country in the whole of Europe (or perhaps the whole world) or find a place with a lower crime rate (with the exception of the moon, perhaps). Damn well organized, the Swiss are...

just had a look on amazon and they sell this, will certainly give it a go if decide to go there, like to learn a bit about country's before visiting them, always best to have a bit of knowledge when in a foreign place,

 

yeh heard it is very clean and has lowest crime rate, UK is a total shambles at the moment

 

thanks for the tips

[Dude]

Your welcome. And enjoy your holidays when the time comes. Added another comment to the HBOT thread, by the way.

[dj2010]

1 minute ago, Dude said:

Your welcome. And enjoy your holidays when the time comes. Added another comment to the HBOT thread, by the way.

thanks again Dude, will look now

[Kostas]

1 hour ago, dj2010 said:

wow 30 years, what a lovely place to grow up, yeh each country seems to have a different mentality towards tourists, lived in Thailand for quite a long time and they were mostly friendly towards me, looks very scenic and natural in Switzerland, ideal place to unwind and lower cortisol levels a bit looks like,

 

yeh Prague looks nice also, my son really wants to visit Prague castle after learning about it at school, really want to visit it myself also,

 

cheers

HI, try Prague for sure! Much cheaper, and more cultural and picturesque, from most Swiss cities. 

If you can afford it, stay in the four seasons hotel by the river! You will not regret it! 

 

 

 

[dj2010]

4 minutes ago, Kostas said:

HI, try Prague for sure! Much cheaper, and more cultural and picturesque, from most Swiss cities. 

If you can afford it, stay in the four seasons hotel by the river! You will not regret it! 

 

 

 

thanks Kostas will have a look at this hotel, is it a good one for 2 young kids?

[Kostas]

Excellent! 

very friendly for kids, close to all sightseeing tourist and historic , and you can see the castle from the windows of the breakfast room while sitting! 

[dj2010]

Just now, Kostas said:

Excellent! 

very friendly for kids, close to all sightseeing tourist and historic , and you can see the castle from the windows of the breakfast room while sitting! 

sounds perfect will have a look at this, thanks!

[dj2010]

1 YEAR UPDATE off venlafaxine and approx 13 - 14 months off seroquel !!

 

This last month has been good, sleep has been a lot less broken, been getting quite a few solid 5 hours and even got a solid 6 1/2 hours in the mix, there was only 6 nights where got under 6 hours sleep and only 1 night where got under 5 hours, most nights 6 1/2 - 7 hours,  it is rare that wake up more than 2 times now in the night, most nights its 1 or 2 times, getting enough sleep 90% of the time to be fully functional and in a decent mood,

 

Apart from broken sleep I have no other symptoms except tinnitus that sometimes appears in the night but its not loud and soon goes, got zero anxiety or depression and mood has been good,

 

I have added a few supplements and tolerating them good with no problems, I am back enjoying drinking matcha green tea in the mornings and I am able to take krill oil (always been unable to tolerate fish oil during the last 12 months) I am taking a low dose of vitamin B6, vitamin B3, and sublingual vitamin B12, I am also using CBD oil with no problems, I am using a different brand than the one which gave me a huge panic attack, started off with 1 drop and have worked my way up to 4 drops twice daily,

 

Also bought some dumbells and starting to build my arms back up as lost quite a lot of muscle in the early months of withdrawal,

 

Last week I went on holiday to the lake district and had a great time visiting historical sites, museums, zoo and going on hikes with the family, I was worried about sleep as there was no way to have a epsom salt bath and being in a different bed etc, the 1st 2 nights sleep was very difficult, especially the 2nd night when got woke up by another family's screaming child, had to use 4mg diazepem that night, after that all other nights I was fine and slept really good which I was very surprised at, so feel confident now to go away on holidays and not worry too much about sleep, probably be going abroad next now feel confident,

 

Tomorrow is my 34th birthday however I will be celebrating more the fact that I have now been 1 year off psych meds, feeling good and almost back to normal,

 

I am still keeping my sleep log but cant be bothered to type it out as want to get out for a light jog while the sun is out,

 

Thanks for reading

 

[bhasski]

Great update dj.

What has helped you with anxiety and neuro emotions if you had ... in these last months?

[dj2010]

50 minutes ago, bhasski said:

Great update dj.

What has helped you with anxiety and neuro emotions if you had ... in these last months?

Hi bhasski, I have been lucky enough to not have much anxiety during my withdrawal, I only had it bad during the 1st 8 months only when in a wave and after really bad nights sleep, for the last 15 years I have struggled with severe anxiety and panic attacks, looks like all along it was the medication causing it,

 

The last couple months I haven't had much neuro emotions, in the early months I had them bad and would often be lay in bed at night terrified of dying and scared that I wasn't going to heal or would end up with dementia etc, meditation helped a lot with this, I used the website www.headspace.com and found it very effective at redirecting my thoughts and it helped with getting to sleep also, I still use the techniques I learnt every night when going to sleep,

 

Also keeping myself busy has helped a lot, the less time you have sat around thinking about withdrawal the better, continuing to work has been a lifesaver and it has also provided great stimulation for the brain as I am forced to be continually thinking and learning new things etc, I am certain using the brain a lot is essential to help it recover, work has been extremely difficult at times though,

 

thanks for reading, hope this helps

 

take care

[bhasski]

Thanks for the reply.

You said taking CBD oil .. how does it help?

[powerback]

Great update ,good for you DJ .Happy birthday ,rejoice and enjoy the day .