Maja Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi everyone, I`m new here and for abroad with not very great English - so excuse me for any of my mistakes... I`m reducing my dose of Fevarin from 50 mg to 37,5 mg. It`s only third day right now. My question is if I can use any herbs and f.e. ginseng to help myself during this prosses? Can it go easier this way? Would it be safe? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted March 21, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hello, Maja, and welcome to SA. At Surviving Antidepressants, it is recommended that a person taper by no more than 10% of their current dose with at least a four week hold in-between decreases. The 10% taper recommendation is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs. Some people may have to taper at a more conservative rate as they are sensitive to even the smallest drops. Your drop from 50mg to 37.5 is slightly more than that but likely will be all right. You should stay at that dosage for four weeks. If at that time, you are feeling stable, then you cn taper 10% of 37.5, with your next dosage 34mg. Before you begin tapering what you need to know Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Brain Remodelling This link explains how to make non-standard doses of Fevarin, which you will need as you taper. Tips for tapering off Luvox (fluvoxamine) As you taper, you will likely experience withdrawal symptoms. These links will help you understand the withdrawal process. What is withdrawal syndrome. Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list. Regarding herbs, many people become very sensitive to supplements as they taper. If you try a supplement, start only one at a time and begin with a very low dose to see how you react.Ginseng is generally regarded as a stimulant, but some members have reported a relaxing effect. It's very individual. For example, I tried Ashwaganda to help with anxiety, and it had a paradoxical (opposite) effect of what it was supposed to do and made me more anxious. This link demonstrates the different reactions members have had to gingko and ginseng. Gingko and Ginseng - Surviving Antidepressants We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community. I hope you'll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation. I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Sept 25: 3.6mg Taper is 95% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Maja Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Hallo Gridley, thank you so much for your reply. You can`t even imagine how helpful you are. It was quite a relief -to realize that there are other people with a problem like mine and furthermore that there are people who know how to deal with what I'm going through. I'm so glad that I have found you guys. And I want you to know that the last sentence of your message - I found really strong. Thank you. I have tried to reduce my dose of Fevarin before. I went to my psychiatrist to ask if she can help me - and so she gave me a plan to get from 100mg to 0mg in two weeks, a vitamin B12 and that was all. So I didn't know what to expect. It turned out it was a disaster. Needless to say about physical effects that I had, the worst for me, and at the same time the main reason I gave up, was the feeling like my depression is coming back again, with all her strength. If I only knew it was also one of a withdrawal syndrome... I come back on Fevarin. Since then I take 50 mg a day. Well..actually I`ve started to reduce it again - since few days. About herbs, ginkgo and ginseng - I have read quite a lot of reports (thanks to does links you`ve sent me) and still don't know what to do - seems like its half and half. Therefore I`ll wait and see how it goes with my symptoms and...I don't know, maybe try a bit in a further future... I will focus on magnesium and Omega-3 since it seems to be a harm-free. Link to comment
Maja Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Hi guys, I have a question, forgive me, I am not very well in English therefore it is quite hard for me to find an answer at forum. I am tapering Fluvoxamine for months now and I am at 8 mg dosage right now. I am doing it with no doctors to control it, because my psychiatrist when have heard I want to quit meds gave me a timetable to quit it in 2 weeks - witch I tried and failed a few times before. And so I have find you guys almost a year ago and you gave me hope - a decent way to give it up for good and with less damage that it is possible, I think. I started from 100 and look at me now! I am almost at the end of this rode! Thank you! I had only one bad time when I have decided that I will be strong enough to go down 50 per cent - omg that was fatal mistake - I felt like I was dying, going blind (couldnt see on my left eye) and puking every testicles I had inside me at the same time... for a long few days and I had to raise my dosage again. From then I stayed 20 per cent down with every 40 days. My question for you is: since I am on 8 mg, do you think that next it will be good to go 6 - 4- 2 -0? Or do you think that I can go zero earlier - is it any difference on this really low dosages? I would be very greatfull for an answer. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted December 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 4, 2018 This topic has some helpful information: are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take SA recommends reducing by no more than 10% of the current dose followed by a hold for about 4 weeks to allow the brain to adapt to not getting as much of the drug. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Many members find that the lower their dose gets the slower they need to go by reducing less and/or holding for longer: Why taper paper: dose-occupancy curves When to end the taper and jump to zero? * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
will351 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) Maja ,what withdrawal symptoms are you having I’m reducing went from 25mgs to 18.5 for three days and now down to 12.5 for five days going to sit at this dose for a month. I am having chills, tingling skin, headaches and stomachache which come in waves Edited December 25, 2019 by will351 Miss spell 1993-2017 Sertraline 50 mgs 2017- 2018 Effexsor 75mgs 6 months 75 mgs Prozac. 5/18 3 months 20 mgs Pristiq. 8/18. 3 months 50 Paxil 9/18 - 4 months 20 mgs Klonopin .5 once a day 2019 Amitriptyline 2/19- 8/19 Klonopin .25 once a day Luvox 5/2019- 1/2020 withdrawal from 12.5 mgs on 1/9/2020, Sertraline 9/24/19-1/8/2020 50mgs, Rexalti .25 mg 1/2/20-1/17/20 PRESENT (Sertraline. 1/9/19 - present 62.5 mg) 7:00 am (Mirtazipine 9/18- present 7.5mgs). 7:30pm (Klonopin 12/24- 2/23/2020 (.125). 7:00am Klonopin 2/24/ 2020 (.112mg) (Luvox 12/2019- 6mgs). Luvox 2/1/2020 (3mgs) 1988- present. Lisinipril 40mgs blood pressure 9:00 Amlodipine besylate. 7:00am Lipitor cholesterol 40mgsam Link to comment
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