bluepm Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I wanted of prozac was on it 9 months last dose was 20 mgs off 30 days dr said ok to stop self tapper. I know i don't know if have wd from the from prozac or my slow tapper K pin after two months use 1.5mg to .125 mg i stopped to day after trying to get on another AD which was horrible experience buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 13, 2018 Administrator Share Posted April 13, 2018 Welcome, bluepm. How long have you been off Prozac? How do you feel now? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
bluepm Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Hi I stopped taking prozac about about 40 days now was on it for nine months at started at 20 the up to 40 mg then drop to 20 mg felt better by doing that it was causing me anxiety again 1/1/18 after the flu. i tried to switch celexa which went south with K-pin to help transition needless to say that did not work for two weeks went back Prozac that did not work out at 20 mgs so DR told to stop Prozac so i did he told me its self tapering as well i was a low does.. back to K-pin i started that end jan 27 18 was up 1.5 mg for two weeks stated to taper ever week 25 % until I got down .125 for 8 days. last days off threes days since 4 /10 /18 i have/had wd systems while tapering they less in severity my Phyc told to stop as well don't take any more which good i don't want take it poison any more. I think pill going solve my problems so started fluvoxamine 25 mg few ago i was nervous again first day. what read through treads starting a another antidepressants dose not really solve anything looks it makes things worse . one day stopped is was making me agitated. ( any comment on this ) I am still taking 7.5 mg off remeron ( 12 months) and PRN 100 mg nurton to help the withdrawals at night it help WD shaking in morning has stopped really I only have anxiety WD I not shaking any more but have anxiety in the morning. I also vistaril 25 mg every 6 to help with anxiety as required does very little. so what's going on i have anxiety still after five days after stopping the K-pin at .125 after 8 day taper. well the stop in next week or so i well keep taking remeron and PRN 100 mg nurton i sleep at least 7 hours night. any supplements to reduce the anxiety ? any advise here buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 15, 2018 Administrator Share Posted April 15, 2018 Welcome, bluepm. What withdrawal symptoms do you have? When did they start? Are they getting better or worse? What time of day do you take your drugs, at what dosages? What is nurton? To help us out, see these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
bluepm Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 40 days off prozac how do feel i have anxiety that's why stopped I was having anxiety at 20 mg tried i told DR he did not have much to say about ,switch over celeax that went bad, back to Prozac 20 mg a week or two could not handled it that in process i was given K-pin at .5 mg three times day too weeks I new that was going work out so I tapered down on .125 mg and the past seven days stopped . all taking right 7.5 mg mertizazapine and 100mf nurton as need i stop shacking morning. I have hydronzine .25mg take as needed whats the groups have to say about cbd oil ? blue PM buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 i watched video feed good for you for standing up buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted April 26, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 2:01 PM, bluepm said: whats the groups have to say about cbd oil ? Hi, bluepm. CBD oil is a hit or a miss - some people find it helpful, but others find it to cause more problems. Here's a thread with members discussing it: Cannabis, marijuana, THC, or CBD to ease withdrawal symptoms There are only two supplements that SA recommends - fish oil and magnesium. Many people find them calming to the nervous system. We recommend bringing in supplements one at a time and at a low dose in case you are sensitive. King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Please add a signature. Include drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements in the last 12-24 months. Also include supplements. This will help us give you the most accurate advice we can. Any drugs and supplements prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. This is a direct link to your signature: Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. Once we know more about your history and your symptoms, we'll be able to help you set up a taper. Please use this thread to post your symptoms, information about your taper, and to ask questions. Link to comment
bluepm Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 thanks you are right on about the CBD oil. buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 how do i put signature on my post buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Please follow these instructions. Your signature will then appear below all your posts. Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature Edited August 1, 2018 by manymoretodays updated signature link Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Aug 26: 4.0mg Taper is 95% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2018 We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Aug 26: 4.0mg Taper is 95% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 i am doing better i am off k-pin 90 days the only thing i am taking know is mertazpine 7.5 mg reducing i never took over 15 mg for long time 80% time 7.5 mg for 12 months found this tapper schedule on CITA site see attachment every two week s reductions 7.5 mg, 6.5 mg, 5.5 mg, 4.2mg, 3.3mg ,2.1 mg and 1.7mg. total 14 weeks skipping days the 7.5 mg starting one and increasing skipped days as week go by. i know your protocol 10% drop every four weeks see attachment comments SSRI-Tablesf.pdf buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 i agree with you buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2018 I've merged your two Intro topics into one. Each member has only 1 Intro topic where they can ask questions about their own situation and journal their progress. It keeps your history in one place. Please create your drug signature. Dates, ALL drugs, doses - no symptoms or diagnoses. Thank you. Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 17, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 12:08 PM, bluepm said: i am doing better i am off k-pin 90 days the only thing i am taking know is mertazpine 7.5 mg reducing i never took over 15 mg for long time 80% time 7.5 mg for 12 months found this tapper schedule on CITA site see attachment every two week s reductions 7.5 mg, 6.5 mg, 5.5 mg, 4.2mg, 3.3mg ,2.1 mg and 1.7mg. total 14 weeks skipping days the 7.5 mg starting one and increasing skipped days as week go by. i know your protocol 10% drop every four weeks see attachment comments SSRI-Tablesf.pdf Why are you tapering mirtazapine now? Are all your withdrawal symptoms gone? That is a very irregular tapering schedule. We would not recommend it. If you want help with CITA's tapering schedule, you will have to work with CITA. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 i don't want be on any AD anymore. Also cita site is closed down now . its something I found internet. but your site seems to have more experienced people that have work the 10% method. buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 17, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 17, 2018 What is your daily symptom pattern? If you go off mirtazapine too soon, sleep problems can come back. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 the biggest problem is morning anxiety just stated up again skipping the day dossing . i am going to stay 3.5mg for few weeks and see if things clear up . i spoke to pharmacist today he also said to tapper off mertizapine slowly as well not to c/t . i kept on RX for last to tapper off since it helped me sleep and first one i was on . during entire array prescription RX . I got sleep AP machine for breathing during sleep after i took sleep study test. ( well this help me ? ) I have app on my phone use sleep cycle to monitor my sleep i can see if i am getting deep sleep. side note my plan was never to stay RX for long period of time only recommended 6 month to year . AD site has lot good information that is helpful buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 I am back again yesterday i very anxious in morning but managed. Eating less but eating three light meals a day . I went for a walk with my dogs 3 miles in evening. I was fine after the walk with my dogs went bed 10;30 pm got up 3;30 am went back to sleep got up at 5 am my sleep app said two session of deep sleep . ( i walk my my dogs everyday 1 to 3 miles) I took 3.5 mg mertizapine the night before to try stabilize the week of every other day 7.5 mg. of mertizapine . last night i took about 4 mg mert . Today in morning i feel anxious trying to easy my mind but not as bad as yesterday. so what the next steps go back up 7.5 meg or hold at 3.5 mg two more days for 30 days then taper down 10% for four weeks at a time ? what our my options or recommendations. buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 How do forget about bad past events ? I know stay in the present moment please see my other post post above buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 19, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:42 PM, bluepm said: I got sleep AP machine for breathing during sleep after i took sleep study test. ( well this help me ? ) If you have sleep apnea, using the CPAP machine should help. You need to get it set up properly, work with your sleep doctor. People experiencing withdrawal syndrome often have waves of overpowering shame, guilt, or despair. See Neuro-emotions Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping Dealing With Emotional Spirals and other topics in the Symptoms and Self-care forum This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 my sleep AP machine is mentored by my doctor i have longer sleep times now on the machine and machine adjusted by DR. thanks buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Need some help here the last two days my anxiety is up , no appetite, and kind of hot i woke up this morning sweating , i feel better in evening I walking my dogs every day working around the yard ect staying active as stated July 19 would take 3.5 mg mirt. every day after tapering down in from 7.5 dropping 1 mg every two weeks I am holding 3.5 mg the past three weeks. could i be having Protracted withdrawals from the other rx i was taking its been four months since my last z durg which tapered off and five month since stopping Prozac. Can ibuprofen cause anxiety ? suggestions buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Tarheel109 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 1:02 PM, bluepm said: How do forget about bad past events ? I know stay in the present moment please see my other post post above I’m by no means qualified to answer that, however I highly recommend downloading a mindfulness app or even watching YouTube videos on guided meditation. Best of luck! Trying to taper from fluoxetine. Taking 60 mg between 2002 and 01 April, 2018. Dropped to 50 mg between 01 April and 07 April 2018 Dropped to 40 mg between 07 April and 01 July 2018 Dropped to 36 mg on 01 July, 2018 Dropped to 33 mg on 15 September 2018 Dropped to 30 mg on 15 October 2018 Dropped to 27 mg on 15 November 2018 Dropped to 25 mg on 15 December 2018 Dropped to 20 mg on 15 January 2019 Dropped to 18 mg on 01 July 2019 Dropped to 17 mg on 01 August 2019 Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Have question some days i feel ok the other I feel like I have hot spells is this common with WD's ? buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 how much do water do i need to taper of 3.5 mg mert. i have 5 ml syringe I want start 10 % 3.5 mg so how much water do need to mix up 3,5 mg ? buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted August 1, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hi Bluepm-- There are some good instructions on making your own liquid in the tapering section of the forum. But for right now you should be thinking more about getting yourself stable on your current dose rather than tapering any further. You've made a lot of large changes in a lot of different drug in the past year and a half, all of that needs to srot itself out before you make any more changes. The symptoms you describe show that you are not stable yet and need to ride it out for a while. The symptoms will come and go as they please for no reason at all making it a very rocky and unpredictable process This is a very slow process where you need to think in terms of many months instead of days and weeks. Brassmonkey 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 thanks for the replay that's what i was thinking my self to hold but up dose to 4 mg of mert. than start 10 % reduction in few months this the is RX I have been longest and 80% OF THE time 7.5 mg . the liquid taper would be 7.5 ml water and 7.5 of tablet correct . note i started my taper mert 6/1/18 started having problems when skipping does every other day does came down 4.2 MG AVG AND 3.5 MG AVG How do i get stable on my current dose ? do i work my way back up 7.5 mg ? i am only taking mert. now nothing else. buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted August 2, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2018 For now just sit tight on your current dose, same time each day, every day. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 ok thanks i go to bed at 10 pm- 10;30 pm every night take my mert. at that time the last two morning wake up at 3 am could not go back to sleep , other mornings waking at 4 am and 4;30 am and sometimes waking at 12;30 am and going back to bed this been going for a while I drink some coffee in morning then tired again today last three days no appetite , but i eating some food i am restless past three days can' t relax accept in the evening i walked my dogs three miles yesterday in the evening ( walked million steps this year already) work around the house when i can i work from home so i am still employed i worry about nothing , How do stop that ? the past year 1 1/2 has been nothing but bid upset taking these rxs ( there was good period though when i was prozac though say 6/17 to 1/18 then down hill after 1/31/18) I wanted to tapper off prozac once felt better but dr did not allow it and there office does not taper at 10 %. method. It was bad 2/18 through 5/ 18 once since stopped prozac then tried to switch to new SSRI's more then one ( not more then two weeks at time) but decided thats not working out started z-drug again to switch to new ssri which i new was bad idea and new i could not take z-drug for an extended period of time did taper off z-rx best i could with help of the internet the doctors did not help that much. sorry for repeating this again in May a I just said i would stay the mert. at 7.5 mg only so i could sleep at night and this was the rx i was on the longest . i noticed when i dropped 4.2 mg to 3.5 mg i was more anxious it leveled out for few days but got axions again (past three days) last note i think maybe it to soon to stop taking the mert do to fact had WD from z-drug i am lot better now though then before but not my old self . I had all the blood tests done by my doctor this year did not find anything wrong me . buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 I told my primary Dr. today what i was doing tapering off mert. he agreed to go slow and hold were feel good at and that's it !!! I also told him i am not interested any more ploy drugs and he agreed his repose was you do no t do well on them we had conversation before and his repose was some people do well on them other do not that's because primary Dr see all types people . but the phyc doctor said we still have not found right medicine . He was good phyc doctor he did not go over board the meds either his goal was be on one drug at time. went to bed 10 pm this morning up 4 am with wake 2 am back to sleep anxious in the morning after coffee working eating but no as much have to stop reading other people story's dos not help me any comments well be be helpful buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 brass monkey hold 3.5 mg for how long and when do up dose if necessary ? buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted August 3, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2018 From what I see in your signature you've cut your dose by 75% over the past four months. That is a huge reduction and it will take a long time to stabilize. Three months would be a minimum to wait before reevaluating and it may take a lot longer. As for updosing, that would only stir the pot. I wouldn't consider it unless your symptoms are totally debilitating. For right now you should work on your coping techniques and ride it out. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 brass monkey i sorry my typo i taking 3.75 mg half off 7.5 mg i started the taper on 6/1/18 started 3.75 on 7/9/18 buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) update daily daily symptom pattern past three days sleep ok some sometimes waking at 12;30 am then going to bed, then waking 4;30; am one night my sleep app had the enter night in deep sleep that never happen in past 584 days since AP's. mornings anxious but starts to despite in the afternoon around 12 pm and on. light headness eating goes away my activities walking my doges working around the yard trying to stay busy I am holding the at mert. 3.75mg splinting the pills. past three weeks not skipping days taking Magnesium oxide 500 mg a day taking fish oil 6 caps 16000 mg a day omga 3-6-9 1600 mg, 150 mg of epa and dha 100 mg ,6 420 mg , 9 150 mg How fast does Magnesium work to calm you ? please provide some tips on how eliminate the mornings anxious by eating right food , excerise ,ect i drink coffee i was drinking before the RX was making tried in morning. I used to big coffee drinker i cut back a lot the past two years. whats the best Magnesium to buy and fish oil ? Edited August 6, 2018 by bluepm How fast does Magnesium work to calm you buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
bluepm Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 I need some help I have been at 3.75 mg Mertizipine since 7/9/18 i tapered down 50 % in 8 weeks My mornings anxious and is not letting up afternoons are better. i wake at up 2, 3, 4 am but got back to sleep then get up 5 am , eating less , i woke this morning sweating Can i up does back 7.5 mg ? then start tapering again ? buspar 7/16 to 4/17 does 45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg stopped did not like the side effects tapered paxil 10 mg 10 /16 11 / 16 bad reaction stopped xanax .25 mg as needed 10 /16 30 days only stopped ativan 1/17 1 mg 30 days supply tapper off the best i could 1/16/18 stopped prozac 4/16 to 1/17 20 mg start then 6 months 40 mgs then down 10/17 to 20 mgs off 2/17 bad reaction stopped klonopin .5 three daily as needed took .5 for 30 days when getting on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped then started again 1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but better now stopped Mertizipine 11/16 to present started 15 mg at 7.5 mg 4/17 to 7/18 , 7/4/18 3.5 mg skipping does the plan was to go off it while on Prozac but it never worked back on 7.5 mg Link to comment
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