Kikibee83 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hello there, I am currently 7 months off from stopping sertraline which I took for 6 years, before that citalipram and before that sertraline again as well as a number of other antidepressants going back to age 14 (I’m nearly 36) I had weaned off the sertraline very quickly from 200mg to zero in just a few months. Looking back I didn’t think I had any withdrawals from the sertraline at first in fact I felt pretty good for a month after. I certainly didn’t have any physical symptoms although looking back, around 1 month after stopping my health anxiety went into overdrive and I spent the coming months in a very anxious state on and off with panic attacks and time off work. I’ve also just remembered that in November last year I was beginning to try to reduce my sertraline dosage by using cbd oil and by the end of December I ended up in hospital with a heart rate of 170bpm. This was put down to my thyroid being out of whack and I was started on beta blockers which I still take. Maybe the heart thing was in part related to the sertraline being lowered. I was lowering them by large amounts which can’t of helped. So fast forward to end of October this year when I started with what felt like a bladder infection, I couldn’t stop peeing all day. Next came the bladder pressure and feelings of crawling and tingling on my private area along with weird muscle twitches. I also had an unwanted sense of arousal which I figured out was Pgad. Over the weeks this died down and I began with this internal vibration in my legs one night. This carried on and then I began to tremble all over. My anxiety went sky high and I felt like I couldn’t keep my legs still. Then muscle twitches and vibrating all over my body even my face. I’m still experiencing this vibrating which comes and goes often starting in my legs and I have a tremor which is often in my whole body where my arms and legs and head even shake. I’ve had pulsing electric sensations in my thumb and leg/groin as well as the ongoing crawling/pins and needles sensations down below. I’ve also had intense feelings of terror which come and go along with what feel like adrenaline surges starting around my bottom and going up through my body. I’m so frightened especially as my legs often feel like jelly and like I’m about to collapse. I’m still struggling to accept that this is withdrawal from the sertraline but the good news is I’ve found a gp who believes it could be related. I’m being referred to a neurologist but this could be a while. Could these delayed symptoms which didn’t start until 6 plus months later be due to sertraline withdrawal? I currently take propranolol, amitriptyline and levothyroxine. I’ve been on the amitriptyline for well over 2 years but it really helps with already existing nerve pain so I’m very scared to stop taking it. Just looking for some reassurance and support xx Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted December 10, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Welcome to SA, Kikibee83. Delayed withdrawal is not uncommon and certainly could be the cause of your symptoms. However, it's good to have yourself checked medically. Delayed onset of withdrawal symptoms What you describe are recognized withdrawal symptoms from a too-fast taper. Your central nervous system, which is now dysregulated due to withdrawal, underlies and affects all bodily functions, which accounts for the wide and often strange variety of symptoms. Urination and bladder issues - Surviving Antidepressants Paresthesia: Pins & Needles, Numbness, Tingling, Burning ... Asthenia: Weakness, muscle fatigue in legs, arms or body ... Tremors, shaking, body vibration, internal trembling ... Here is some general information on withdrawal. What is withdrawal syndrome. Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list. When we take medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. These explain it really well: Video: Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery On 8/30/2011 at 2:28 PM, Rhiannon said: When we stop taking the drug, we have a brain that has designed itself so that it works in the presence of the drug; now it can't work properly without the drug because it's designed itself so that the drug is part of its chemistry and structure. It's like a plant that has grown on a trellis; you can't just yank out the trellis and expect the plant to be okay. When the drug is removed, the remodeling process has to take place in reverse. SO--it's not a matter of just getting the drug out of your system and moving on. If it were that simple, none of us would be here. It's a matter of, as I describe it, having to grow a new brain. I believe this growing-a-new-brain happens throughout the taper process if the taper is slow enough. (If it's too fast, then there's not a lot of time for actually rebalancing things, and basically the brain is just pedaling fast trying to keep us alive.) It also continues to happen, probably for longer than the symptoms actually last, throughout the time of recovery after we are completely off the drug, which is why recovery takes so long. We recommend using non-drug coping techniques to deal with withdrawal. Take a look at the techniques in the following link and see which you think might be beneficial for you. Non-drug techniques to cope These links deal with coping with anxiety and panic. Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Audio: How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes VIDEO: Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg) Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help … 10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here. Edited December 10, 2019 by Gridley Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Kikibee83 Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 Thank you Gridley. I’m just very scared of other possible neurological causes but will have to wait for my neurologist referral for a while. It’s just with such a delay in the physical symptoms starting I find myself worrying constantly. Although I’ve read that peoples symptoms can often get worse around the six month mark. It also worries me greatly that I am still taking amitriptyline. I do wonder if the fact that I am taking it could have something to do with the lack of physical symptoms when I came off the sertraline, like maybe it masked it a bit? I don’t know. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted December 11, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Kikibee83 said: I do wonder if the fact that I am taking it could have something to do with the lack of physical symptoms when I came off the sertraline, like maybe it masked it a bit? That is very possible. In fact, it's likely. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Kikibee83 Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 Do you think that could potentially be why my more physical symptoms have been delayed? It’s hard trying to make sense of it all. My dr who had said she agreed that I could be having a somewhat delayed withdrawal from stopping the sertraline has now said she doesn’t think it’s very likely. I feel really let down. She even suggested I go back on sertraline. I obviously refused. 😩😩 Link to comment
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