Kree:mirtazapine

[Kree]

Do some people with a failed ri and adverse reaction not suffer?

[Kree]

Do some people with a failed ri and adverse reaction not suffer?

I also ct the reinstatement,would that have made matters worse?

[Kree]

Im exactly 3 months to the day off mirtazapine 

[Altostrata]

Those are questions that have been answered many times before. Please do not ask them again.

 

If you're feeling better on 10mg amitriptyline, I would stop worrying.

 

I would take 10mg amitriptyline at the same time each day. Do not skip doses. Do not cold turkey. I would not increase the dose, leave well enough alone.

[Kree]

Im on 20mg now for the past 11 days and seem fine.

Do you think I've maybe not had as bad adverse reaction to the ri of mirtazapine than i thought?

 

[Kree]

Do you get people who have a failed RI and then go on with no suffering at all?

[Kree]

Do you think I'll manage to go to work if I've had an adverse reaction?

[Kree]

I've been advised to up the dose in hope that it gets me back to work,what do you think?

[Altostrata]

On 5/2/2020 at 9:39 AM, Altostrata said:

I would take 10mg amitriptyline at the same time each day. Do not skip doses. Do not cold turkey. I would not increase the dose, leave well enough alone.

 

I WOULD LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE.

 

As you do not appear to be reading my responses, I am wondering why you even bother to put questions here.

[Starboy17]

Hi Kree

 

Upping the dose is unlikely to yield the results you think it will, even if it does, its possibly a placebo effect, in other words you think it will work and it does.  However, this is often short lived and side effects then usually ensue.  Moreover side effects typically occur from upping the dose.  This will be compounded when the medication stops working and in those circumstances some Drs who are ignorant either do a fast taper, or cold turkey, alternatively do the combined with switching over to another medication. I've read so many stories of this happening to others and its taken years for them to heal.  It happened to me and I've had the worst time of my life the last 4 years, its incomprehensible.  I wouldn't have believed that this level of suffering was even possible from antidepressants but it is and the more you mess with these meds the greater the chances of your risk going up.  It takes a toll on the mind and body, I was formally reasonably fit before meds, now i'm lucky if i can walk for 20min without being in constant pain.

 

Like many people who up the dose, many realize it fails to give the results Drs thought it would, they then have to taper down but now the tapering process will be longer and drawn out.  Unfortunately many in the above examples were then given other meds to deal with the side effects of the original med.  You see the vicious cycle here?

 

This is your choice, but coming from someone who has been harmed I would reconsider upping the dose. If life is so unmanageable checkout the files section and read how others who have overcome their illness without pharmaceuticals, talk to a therapist who will give you tools to deal with life's challengers, naturally.

 

[Kree]

I'm just confused as i am tolerating 20mg of amitriptyline and my mood seems to have lifted.

Would this have happened if i had an adverse reaction to mirtazapine?

[Kree]

The reason i feel like i can't go to work is because I'm expecting worse to come.

Do you think i could be wrong?

[sunnysideup69]

2 hours ago, Kree said:

I'm just confused as i am tolerating 20mg of amitriptyline and my mood seems to have lifted.

Would this have happened if i had an adverse reaction to mirtazapine?

If your mood has lifted, stop worrying. What's happening is happening.

Are you still using speed at all? Are you drinking alcohol? I would strongly recommend ditching both, and I'm speaking from alcohol/recreational drug experience. Your nervous system does not like them. Speed is almost guaranteed to provoke anxiety....so if you've been partaking in that over the last few years, your nervous system has had a bit of a bashing.

Please read Alto's advice, I know what it's like to feel panicked but it's really not going to help you to keep asking the questions. Instead of asking a question, open one of the links for dealing with anxiety and do it. It will help to soothe you. Look at Gridley's post to you, way back underneath the first post in this topic. All of those links are great, and I especially like the legs up the wall yoga one. It is very calming. Stay there a while after the youtube clip ends.

You can get through this, but I can hear you are winding yourself up....it comes over in your posts.

 

With regards to work, if you're feeling better, why not try to go? 

[Kree]

No I'm not taking speed anymore.

I occasionally drink but maybe twice in the last 4 month.

The thing is,i must get back to work as my partners left and i have 2 kids and a house to keep.

 

[sunnysideup69]

Sounds like, you're feeling better but over-worrying about things that haven't happened. Been there, done that.

 

Honestly, try those relaxation/ anxiety links, they will really help you.

 

Don't assume there is worse to come, why would you do that? It's much less stressful to assume that you're on the right track now and things will get better and better. Have a go at going back to work, it may well distract you and make you feel better  

 

[Kree]

Because an adverse reaction is supposed to get worse from 3 months off.. which i am today.

Thankyou for your kind words.

[Kree]

I'm so scared that I'm going to get worse with my failed RI and adverse reaction 3 months ago. 

I must go to work.

Reading everyones stories similar to mine take years to heal

[Kree]

Have i kindled myself by going on ami?

[Kree]

It hasn't happened yet...but can you have

what people call a honeymoon period on a new medication and then adverse reaction breaks through and it stops working?

[Kree]

I took and adverse reaction to mirtazapine after reinstating 4 months ago.. been off 3 months.

Read story after story on this site about how it'll get worse after the 3 month mark.

I don't know if I'm just convincing myself or not. 

Will this definitely happen?

[sunnysideup69]

Just because something has happened to someone else, it doesn't mean it will happen to you. You won't necessarily crash at 3 months, but you could worry yourself into a bad state by that point.

 

I'd stay away from reading the more difficult stories at the moment as it's winding you up. I'm not sure that adverse reactions 'get worse from three months off.'

 

I think what you're talking about is when you quite a med, you can have WD symptoms that show up three months later. They are just common or garden WD symptoms. We don't know how you will feel at the three month mark, but if it's today and you've been settled on your new med, then it sounds like you are doing ok.

[sunnysideup69]

Have you tried any of the links Gridley posted you? 

[Kree]

That is what im scared of.. 

Yeah im going to try some meditation today 

[Farout]

I don’t know anyone who went downhill at 3months solely after an adverse reaction - which is relatively immediate with an incredible intensity that lingers within the early weeks.  Everyone I have spoken with who has had an adverse reaction (and there are many) was staring to see some improvement - however slight and sometimes acknowledged only in hindsight - by the 3 month point.

 

I think you might be confusing adverse reaction with withdrawal. They have many similarities but they are not the same.

[sunnysideup69]

2 minutes ago, Farout said:

I don’t know anyone who went downhill at 3months solely after an adverse reaction - which is relatively immediate with an incredible intensity that lingers within the early weeks.  Everyone I have spoken with who has had an adverse reaction (and there are many) was staring to see some improvement - however slight and sometimes acknowledged only in hindsight - by the 3 month point.

 

I think you might be confusing adverse reaction with withdrawal. They have many similarities but they are not the same.

Exactly, @Farout.

[Farout]

@Kree - our posts crossed.

 

I don’t think you are reading the article correctly. It says experience within the first 3-18 months.

 

It gives a range of when the symptoms might start.  It doesn’t say that they start or get worse after 3 months.

 

 

[sunnysideup69]

Again, exactly @Farout

So, @Kree, at 3 months you are doing pretty well! 

 

The advice in the article is pretty good....DON'T stimulate your nervous system. Don't read people's drug horror stories.

[Kree]

Right,I'm going to be positive😊

[sunnysideup69]

1 minute ago, Kree said:

Right,I'm going to be positive😊

 

Just try some of those links Gridley sent. Honestly. That's the kindest thing you can do for yourself at the moment. Legs-up-the-wall yoga. Some meditation. Youtube has lots of relaxations...I really like a channel called the Honest Guys, they do lots of meditations for overcoming anxiety and worry. Also, if you look up Yoga Nidra on youtube, there are many relaxations there.

[Kree]

@Farout bearing in mind i had an adverse reaction AND a failed Reinstatement...Quite scary😣

[Kree]

In these first 3-18 months the cycles or the emotional rollercoasters (the tricks your brain is playing on you) can be extremely frightening. And it will seem like it never ends, especially when you find a bit of hope in the evening to be back at square one in the morning. Be firm! We all understand its the most frustrating experience right now for you. It's serotonin related and that's why you are experiencing delayed (withdrawal) side effects and flashbacks, but gradually it will get better. Evaluate your recovery by weeks and months, not days.

You are going to experience minutes, hours and days that you will start to feel better. The cycles will get longer in duration and eventually you will have more good then bad days. Though, it is most important you also treat your nervous system with care during these better days. Don't think when the better days arrive that you can charge your nervous system like you always did before. It will give you a major set-back! Stick to the list we provide you below, on how to assist your recovery during this period

 

 

 

I just copied and pasted this as well

[Altostrata]

On 5/4/2020 at 2:46 AM, Kree said:

I'm just confused as i am tolerating 20mg of amitriptyline and my mood seems to have lifted.

Would this have happened if i had an adverse reaction to mirtazapine?

 

IF YOU'RE FEELING BETTER, STOP OBSESSING ABOUT FEELING WORSE

 

Kree, since you're feeling better, you cannot say you are experiencing any kind of withdrawal syndrome. Therefore, you cannot experience post-acute withdrawal syndrome. These conditions do not apply to you.

 

The amitriptyline is compensating for any after-effects you had from going off mirtazapine, or any adverse reaction you had.

 

This is a site for going off drugs. You are back on an antidepressant. Please discuss any further issues with your prescriber.

 

We do not provide psychotherapy here. I strongly advise you to seek psychotherapy.

 

I do not believe we can help you here.