☼ Noh1995: will it get better?

[Noh1995]

Hello 

 

Sorry for my poor english

 

I  took Seroxat at the request of the doctor because I was suffering from slight anxiety and took it because I trusted the doctors and I took the medicine for 4 months and the last dose of the medicine was 18 months ago: Previous symptoms: 

- Extreme anxiety, I have never experienced anything like it in my life 

-Dark Depression (I've never experienced something like it in my life)

-Panic 

-Tinnitus 

-Eye floaters

-A slight electrical sensation in the head    

-Insomnia

 

Current symptoms:

-Eye floaters

-Lack of pleasure

-Insomnia(Very bad)

-Tinnitus(Little improvement)

Does it disappear over time or will it last forever?

 

thank noh1995

 

[Gridley]

Welcome to SA, Noh1995.  Your English is fine. I'm sorry you're suffering. The brief answer to your question, "Will it get better?" is yes. The brain has a remarkable ability to heal itself, and these symptoms are not permanent.  We can't predict how long it will take to heal--everyone is different-- but you will heal.  

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.  Please include whether you tapered the drug or just stopped cold turkey.

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

You are experiencing withdrawal from Seroxat.  The symptoms you describe, past and present, including anxiety and depression, are typical withdrawal symptoms.  Doctors don't believe in withdrawal.  Our experience, and yours, have been the opposite.  The electrical sensations you previously felt are known as brain zaps.  Lack of pleasure in anything is called anhedonia/

 

 

What is withdrawal syndrome.

 

Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  

 

These explain the healing process really well.

 

Brain Remodelling 

 

Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that ae single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

Insomnia is a very common withdrawal symptom.  Here are some links to help.

 

Sleep problems - that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952

 

This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  

 

 Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

 

Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   

 

 Melatonin for sleep   

 

It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  

 

Here are some links to help with anxiety, again a very common withdrawal symptom.

 

Audio:  How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes
 

VIDEO:  Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg)
 

Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help …

 

10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall

 

I've found the restorative yoga posture in the last link to be very helpful with anxiety.

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can complete your drug signature, answer my questions, ask your own questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Gridley

[Noh1995]

17 minutes ago, Gridley said:

Welcome to SA, Noh1995.  Your English is fine. I'm sorry you're suffering. The brief answer to your question, "Will it get better?" is yes. The brain has a remarkable ability to heal itself, and these symptoms are not permanent.  We can't predict how long it will take to heal--everyone is different-- but you will heal.  

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.  Please include whether you tapered the drug or just stopped cold turkey.

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

You are experiencing withdrawal from Seroxat.  The symptoms you describe, past and present, including anxiety and depression, are typical withdrawal symptoms.  Doctors don't believe in withdrawal.  Our experience, and yours, have been the opposite.  The electrical sensations you previously felt are known as brain zaps.  Lack of pleasure in anything is called anhedonia/

 

 

What is withdrawal syndrome.

 

Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  

 

These explain the healing process really well.

 

Brain Remodelling 

 

Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that ae single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

Insomnia is a very common withdrawal symptom.  Here are some links to help.

 

Sleep problems - that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952

 

This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  

 

 Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

 

Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   

 

 Melatonin for sleep   

 

It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  

 

Here are some links to help with anxiety, again a very common withdrawal symptom.

 

Audio:  How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes
 

VIDEO:  Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg)
 

Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help …

 

10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall

 

I've found the restorative yoga posture in the last link to be very helpful with anxiety.

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can complete your drug signature, answer my questions, ask your own questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Gridley .

Sorry, I do not know how the site works to set drug dates, I'm sorry I'll put it here   starting date: Seroxat 20 mg :1/1/2019 

Discontinuation date: 1/4/2019  

(Cold turkey)

.

Noh1995

[Noh1995]

Update  

 

I am now 18 months after my last dose, I will put on the withdrawal symptoms that came and are gone now Symptoms you experienced 6 months after leaving the medicine:

-Severe anxiety

-major depression

-Feeling of impending doom

- Tinnitus

-Eye floaters

-Panic

-Feeling crazy

-The sliding of the brain

Remaining symptoms after 16 months now:

- Tinnitus

-Eye floaters

-Sliding of the brain

-Insomnia (and this is the worst of all)

The anxiety and depression are mostly gone

thanks

.noh1995

[Gridley]

27 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

starting date: Seroxat 20 mg :1/1/2019 

Discontinuation date: 1/4/2019  

(Cold turkey)

Click on this link with a computer (not phone), put in the information you just provided then press "save." 

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

[Gridley]

13 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

The anxiety and depression are mostly gone

That is a great sign that you are healing.  I'm very happy you're feeling better.  Thanks for the update.

[Noh1995]

I think if the insomnia and tinnitus were gone, I can say that it has cured 95%.

[Noh1995]

I just want to know if the buzz and insomnia will go away or will I stay like that for the rest of my life Knowing that I am 25 years old

[Noh1995]

I researched the withdrawal symptoms and found evidence of Professor Heather Ashton that she says mostly lasts between 30 to 42 months and then fades with time Is this theory correct?

[Mark]

47 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

I researched the withdrawal symptoms and found evidence of Professor Heather Ashton that she says mostly lasts between 30 to 42 months and then fades with time Is this theory correct?

Honestly everybody is different. So nobody can says : it will last 2, 5, 10, 12, 18, 30... months.

However, you took this poison a short amount of time. Your remaining symptoms are minor ones. Don't worry, they will fade away with time.

[Noh1995]

6 minutes ago, Mark said:

Honestly everybody is different. So nobody can says : it will last 2, 5, 10, 12, 18, 30... months.

However, you took this poison a short amount of time. Your remaining symptoms are minor ones. Don't worry, they will fade away with time.

Thank you very much, Mark

I hope this nightmare is over

[Noh1995]

It is wonderful that I wake up quietly without a throbbing heart, and I can go out and do my daily activities comfortably and tell jokes and laugh with people and interact with them, but the problem of tinnitus, insomnia and eye floaters bother me

 

noh1995

[Noh1995]

Day after day I started to feel the return of my character before Seroxat

 

noh1995

[Noh1995]

Are these signs of healing or could there be a setback?
 

noh1995

[Noh1995]

On 10/11/2020 at 12:48 AM, Noh1995 said:

Thanks Gridley .

Sorry, I do not know how the site works to set drug dates, I'm sorry I'll put it here   starting date: Seroxat 20 mg :1/1/2019 

Discontinuation date: 1/4/2019  

(Cold turkey)

.

Noh1995

 

[christianjw12]

10 hours ago, Noh1995 said:

Are these signs of healing or could there be a setback?
 

noh1995

 

Hi @Noh1995, even though insomnia is a common withdrawal symptom from antidepressant, there's a way to cope with it. I'm not giving you a magic solution to cure your insomnia but a therapy with is called Acceptance and Commitment Therapy which is used to treat many many many psychogical disorder including insomnia.

If you have a little money to spend, please have a look about The Sleep Book of Dr.Guy Meadows. After reading it, you'll understand more about how's the human mind works. The more we worry about something and try to solve it and sometimes it can become our worst ennemy.

[Noh1995]

Update

welcome everybody

 

Now after 18 months and a few days have passed

 

Waking up from sleep became calmer I wake up without heart palpitations What a miracle I did not imagine 4 months ago that this would happen to me

 

My access to mental health-related sites has become rare, unlike 3 months ago, I have been in these forums for 24 hours.

 

Now I can go out and face people and endure problems and pressures, and my anxiety has become temporary according to the situation in front of me, and then with the end of the situation the anxiety ends

 

I listen to music and hope that it is something wonderful

I became optimistic and I had goals that I could not believe would happen 3 months ago

 

 

The remaining symptoms bother me when I think about them. I hope they will disappear as soon as possible. They are: Tinnitus

Insomnia (very annoying and ugly)

Eye floaters

 

Thank you

(Sorry for my english)

 

noh1995

 

[Noh1995]

@Gridley hi 

 

Does this mean that I recover or relapse will occur Thank you

[Gridley]

19 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

 

Does this mean that I recover

You will recover from withdrawal.

[Noh1995]

24 minutes ago, Gridley said:

You will recover from withdrawal.

thank you gridley

 

 I am happy with your words more than wonderful because you give me hope and I wish you and everyone here a cure because you guys are really amazing

[Noh1995]

Update .

 

Welcome everyone I can tell that I see the light at the end of the tunnel, the symptoms are starting to fade one by one

 

Be strong guys and hold on to hope I hope to write my success story soon and give hope to the people

 

Be strong and live without the damned drugs that rob people of all the meanings of humanity

 

Sorry for the words, but this is the lowest description that I can describe for this drug

[Noh1995]

Regarding the supplements I have taken and stopped taking because I felt that I did not need this period

 

Warning: I am not a doctor

 

Magnesium and Vitamin D.

 

Thank you

[christianjw12]

hi @Noh1995, thanks your update ! It gives us tremendous hope about recoveries. My case is probably not as worse as yours. I'm 6 months into withdrawal. What I deal daily with are intrusive thoughts and brainfog. But just like you, I feel like I'm on my waytm to recoveries as well

[Noh1995]

32 minutes ago, christianjw12 said:

hi @Noh1995, thanks your update ! It gives us tremendous hope about recoveries. My case is probably not as worse as yours. I'm 6 months into withdrawal. What I deal daily with are intrusive thoughts and brainfog. But just like you, I feel like I'm on my waytm to recoveries as well

Hold on tight, my friend, there is a light at the end of the tunnel

[Noh1995]

Tip of the Day

 

: Continue your life, endure stress, and live without drugs. Life is wonderful with its ups and downs, problems, and calm

 

Be strong and walk on to see the light at the end of the tunnel

 

I will skip these forums to clear my mind and build my life

 

I thank everyone because I read all the success stories and they gave me strength and determination

 

Now I really escaped this nightmare and feel refreshed and well-groomed, and I feel that my days before Paxil are back.

[Noh1995]

Tip of the Day :

 

Only go to any psychiatrist who prescribes drugs because these drugs alter the structure of the brain and that God has really created us whole  

 

Damn every doctor who prescribes these insidious drugs

 

Sorry for the wordings

[Noh1995]

@Altostrata hi

 

 

In recent times, I have become nervous, knowing that my nature is nervous before taking the drug. Does this mean improvement and a return to normal condition?

 

Thank you

[Erell]

Hello Noh1995

 

Nobody can say why you're feeling nervous.

However, you say that you were nervous before starting meds : perhaps it's time now to learn some nondrug coping skills ?

 

A lot of people find that they benefit greatly from various tips : meditation, exercice, counselling, relaxation,...

What do you do to help you ?

 

From your posts, it sounds like you've healed a lot : congratulations on being drug free, wish you a delightfull and happy life 😊

 

[Noh1995]

1 hour ago, Erell said:

Hello Noh1995

 

Nobody can say why you're feeling nervous.

However, you say that you were nervous before starting meds : perhaps it's time now to learn some nondrug coping skills ?

 

A lot of people find that they benefit greatly from various tips : meditation, exercice, counselling, relaxation,...

What do you do to help you ?

 

From your posts, it sounds like you've healed a lot : congratulations on being drug free, wish you a delightfull and happy life 😊

 

Thank you

 

The mental symptoms have subsided dramatically, the remaining tinnitus and eye floaters, and some things here and there, I hope they will end soon.

 

Thank you

[Noh1995]

@Altostrata  @chicken 

 

Today I woke up in the morning and I felt

that my head had no electrical charges and the buzzing was so light I could barely hear it. I have not felt this feeling since the tinnitus first came

 

Does this give hope that it will disappear soon?

[Noh1995]

@Gridley

[Gridley]

4 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

Does this give hope that it will disappear soon?

 

That is a very encouraging sign of healing.  There's no way to predict how long it will take, but it will happen.

[Erell]

Hello Noh,

 

5 minutes ago, Noh1995 said:

 

Does this give hope that it will disappear soon?

 

Nobody can give you a timeframe or tell you when tinnitus will disappear.

But you are showing a lot of good signs of healing, it is very encouraging 😊

 

I feel a lot of fears in your posts (and it is understable during such a particular journey) : have you tried, discovered, learned non-drug coping skills?

They can help a lot, and are a key to remain drugfree 😊

 

Take care, it sounds like you're on the good path!

[Noh1995]

Update

 

Today the tinnitus has become very light and eye floaters have become very few and I feel that before the pixel by 99% I felt that strong and nervous personal and strong feelings returned to me as before and I am very happy and I have the strength and desire to go to the doctor who put me on Paxil for revenge (I don’t know is this healthy Feelings of revenge)

[Noh1995]

Update

 

I would like to mention that the insomnia has gone away, I sleep at a rate of 8 to 9 hours per night. I am very happy

 

I will turn this bad page in my life soon forever. Be strong guys and hope that everyone firmly believes that there is a happy ending. Thank

[ChessieCat]

That is very good news.  Thank you for letting us know.

 

Please continue to update us on how you are.  Part of SA's mission is to educate medical professionals:

 

On 5/15/2011 at 5:22 AM, Altostrata said:

MISSION OF SURVIVINGANTIDEPRESSANTS.ORG

 

Surviving Antidepressants is a site for peer support, documentation, and education of withdrawal symptoms and withdrawal syndrome caused by psychiatric drugs, specifically antidepressants.

The participants on this site have all experienced or are experiencing difficulty in withdrawal from psychiatric medications. We offer peer support to those who are similarly suffering, drawing from our personal experiences.

(No posting on this site should be construed as medical advice. For medical advice, consult a trusted medical caregiver.)

This site is also a research project. The personal stories on this site are documentation of an iatrogenic condition -- suffering caused by medical treatment -- that is almost always ignored, misdiagnosed, or denied by the medical establishment. Given the widespread prescription of antidepressants to tens of millions of people worldwide, withdrawal syndrome probably affects hundreds of thousands if not millions -- including newborns and children.

Antidepressant withdrawal syndrome can last weeks, months, or years. It can be distressing, debilitating, or even disabling. It may be adding to an increase in what is termed disabling mental illness.

With our documentation of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome, we hope to educate the medical establishment about this problem. Case studies are essential; they are evidence understood by doctors, the psychiatric industry, and government regulatory agencies. The have already informed numerous articles in major publications and scientific papers.

Our hope is, eventually, antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs will be prescribed rarely, and only in cases of extremely severe mental illness after less invasive treatments have been tried.

Please join Surviving Antidepressants in its mission to support, document, and educate about psychiatric drug withdrawal syndrome.