OptimisticRP: hello - my story help me

[Altostrata]

We wouldn't go to the trouble of running this site if nobody ever recovered.

[OptimisticRP]

23 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

We wouldn't go to the trouble of running this site if nobody ever recovered.

True good point! Thank you so much Alto! You’re keeping me going! 
 

 

how can I help change this narrative and help !?

[OptimisticRP]

@Altostrata. @Kiasofia I think a month and 2 weeks into this, I have a window ? I am not as nauseous and I’m able to eat easier. I am unsure! I also been sleeping way easier. 
 

still depersonalization and some brain fog. But also my will to do things and my interest/ ability to actually do things is a little better. And I mean like 5% better if that much. 

[Kiasofia]

3 hours ago, OptimisticRP said:

I am not as nauseous and I’m able to eat easier.  I also been sleeping way easier.  my will to do things and my interest/ ability to actually do things is a little better

This is good to hear.

 

This is the webpage of a documentary about psychiatric drugs that has a lot of resources you can explore in addition to the documentary itself: https://medicatingnormal.com/

[OptimisticRP]

Okay thank you! @Kiasofia

 

@Altostrata How do I go about finding doctors to help me with withdrawal/ PSSD. Because it’s hard finding good doctors. Any advice or do you know any good doctors in NY 

 

 

[Kiasofia]

Recommended doctors, therapists, and clinics

[OptimisticRP]

@Altostrata@Kiasofia

 

my medicine lady - said no to liquid fluoxetine - but she said she’d only prescribe liquid citalopram not sure why  - should I try that 1MG?  Or find a new psychiatrist and see if one can help - also my lady said she didn’t know what lamictal was…… 

[Kiasofia]

On 12/23/2021 at 1:26 AM, OptimisticRP said:

I then was told by my doctor to go back on Prozac 20MG cause I tolerated it best but I took that for 4 days and then stopped

When was this? Please add it to your signature. Why can't you get liquid prozac if that is the drug your doctor thinks you should be taking? I'm not able to say whether citalopram or prozac is the better choice for you, but both are possible options for reinstatement.

[OptimisticRP]

7 minutes ago, Kiasofia said:

When was this? Please add it to your signature. Why can't you get liquid prozac if that is the drug your doctor thinks you should be taking? I'm not able to say whether citalopram or prozac is the better choice for you, but both are possible options for reinstatement.

I can’t find the signature section to edit mine 😅 sorry can’t you link it ? @Kiasofia And I got to find a new psychiatrist to get liquid Prozac - my doctor that I’ve been with is now refusing to give me anything but propanalol and Valium as needed. They are afraid of what’s happened to me. But she said she’d try liquid citalopram because I was on it last. 

[Kiasofia]

41 minutes ago, OptimisticRP said:

But she said she’d try liquid citalopram because I was on it last. 

But didn't you do a few days with Prozac after that?

 

Update signature here

[OptimisticRP]

18 minutes ago, Kiasofia said:

But didn't you do a few days with Prozac after that?

 

Update signature here

Yes, I’m not sure her logic, she is kind of at a loss of words and is worried to give me anything. She was visibly upset. She does not make any sense. 
 

@Kiasofia

[Kiasofia]

1 hour ago, OptimisticRP said:

she is kind of at a loss of words and is worried to give me anything

This is surprising actually. Most doctors/psychiatrists keep pushing drugs even after people react badly. Maybe there is hope for her. She should read the books I linked to you and watch the documentary. Then she wont have to be confused anymore.

 

Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker

A straight talking introduction to psychiatric drugs

The Council for Evidence based Psychiatry

https://medicatingnormal.com/

 

Thank you for updating your signature. Did you notice any change during those 4 days of taking Prozac again?

[OptimisticRP]

@Kiasofia honestly it’s a blur I was too busy obsessing ab my condition and trying to figure out what was wrong. Only thing I noticed was insomnia. But also restarted it on 20MG while my head was going 20202929 miles per hour and freaking out - now at a place of acceptance and just taking things day by day. I would be able to tell if it helped but at that moment I have no recollection. 

[OptimisticRP]

@Kiasofia

@Altostrata

I got nature made fish oil ! I am gonna start it tomorrow and keep you updated. That being said, I was diagnosed with leaky gut in July or august. And I just ignored it…… I chalked it up to my anxiety.  Should I treat my leaky gut and possible SIBO? Or you think my nervous system is too sensitive to treat it ? 

[Altostrata]

42 minutes ago, OptimisticRP said:

Should I treat my leaky gut and possible SIBO?

 

Many of your symptoms may be due to this. Suggest you join a group about it, there are many on Facebook.

[OptimisticRP]

Do you think my nervous system could handle it ? @Altostrata right now I’m only doing fish oil. 

[Altostrata]

Please use common sense. Reinstatement of an SSRI is not going to help your leaky gut. You're going to have leaky gut as long as your diet continues to irritate your digestive system. It's up to you whether you want to continue to deal with the symptoms.

[OptimisticRP]

51 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Please use common sense. Reinstatement of an SSRI is not going to help your leaky gut. You're going to have leaky gut as long as your diet continues to irritate your digestive system. It's up to you whether you want to continue to deal with the symptoms.

Okay. 1st off common sense? If any Of this was common sense we wouldn’t be here.  I come asking you for advice and you respond very rudely. You are the “expert” on all this so I’m looking for an opinion. No need to be rude. I never said I would use reinstatement to treat my leaky gut. I was asking, if you think the doctor giving me supplements for my leaky gut would be tolerated. Because you suggest only two supplements. So therefore my question was pertaining to, would my sensitive nervous system tolerate the supplements given by the doctor for treating my SIBO/Leaky gut. 
@Altostrata

 

I also read all the topics and do my one research. When I don’t find an answer after searching hundreds of pages I ask you, being that you have the most experience with all of this. I get you’re busy and have a lot going on and you got your life back so you’re doing well. But no need for a rude response. 
 

Thanks. 

[Altostrata]

This is not a site about leaky gut. As advised before, read our existing topics or join a Facebook group to get your questions answered.

[ChessieCat]

1 hour ago, OptimisticRP said:

So therefore my question was pertaining to, would my sensitive nervous system tolerate the supplements given by the doctor for treating my SIBO/Leaky gut. 

 

See Post #1 of this topic.  In a nutshell if you start anything new only make one change at a time, only add one thing at a time and start with a small dose first to see how you react and keep notes on paper for yourself:

 

the-rule-of-3kis-keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable

 

[julesb]

so i actually have this same question. I was diagnosed with SIBO. It really is taking a toll on me and i was prescribed antibiotics but not sure if i should take them. I have followed diets and everything but continue to have problems. 

[Altostrata]

We have topics about gut conditions, diets, and antibiotics in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum. Please look for those topics and add to them if you wish. Otherwise, the specialized Facebook groups would be best for discussion in detail.

[OptimisticRP]

Update: @Altostrata@Kiasofia @ChessieCat

 

i have been feeling way better than I did 2 months ago and felt pretty good, probably 40/100 instead of 2/100 

 

however the last two days I’ve felt a little worse. As if I’m in a little wave again but unsure. 
 

Is it true it can get worse at 6 months?  I am only 2 months off the last med and have seen improvements and stuff. 
 

because I feel like I am getting better and making progress and then now I feel worse I’m worried that I’ll get worse randomly down the road. 
 

Also, can someone link ADR recoveries? 
 

my check up with my doctor is February 18th 

 

i am gonna start adjusting my diet any suggestions? 
 

Any questions I ask, is because  I can’t find it in the topics. 
 

Thank you so much, I start my next college semester this week so I am hoping I keep getting better, the “window” or me feeling decent was December 28th till January 16th! And through that time I was continually getting better. Last two days have been weird though and I am worried. 

 

[Kiasofia]

Good to hear you are feeling better. The windows and waves pattern is unpredictable so I don't know what will happen at 6 months. No point thinking about it or worrying. Just enjoy it when you feel good, and when you feel bad - know that you will feel good again too.

 

ADR success stories

 

The book Brain Maker explains how to treat gut health in order to deal with symptoms that get diagnosed as mental illness. Many find it helpful to avoid gluten, dairy, sugar, and processed foods and eat lots of vegetables.

Cut down on sugar to improve mental health

Gut health influences emotions, thinking

Probiotics and gut health

Gluten Sensitivity Vs. Celiac Disease Vs. Gluten Intolerance...

 

Wishing you continued healing.

[OptimisticRP]

Thanks you !!! And in your opinions @Altostrata  @Kiasofia Do you think it’s protracted withdrawal from Prozac ? Or adverse reactions from the others. Because I felt bad on the others but no crazy reaction, besides panic attacks on lexapro which went away. And a week after ceasing the citalopram is when the symptoms started. And I was on all those for a short period of time. Under a month except lexapro. Thank you for all the time you guys put in to help! 

I made a twitch account and I plan on streaming video games and talking and spreading awareness about all this stuff. ❤️

[Heath]

@OptimisticRP glad you are feeling better! That’s a good sign!

 

are you still on Prozac?

what dose?

Liquid?

 

 I try to eat clean and not overeat. And it helps. Stay away from processed food and simple carbs (junk) where you can. 
 

same dose same time every day and you will continue to get better. And try to keep other schedules the same. 
 

When I have gone through this in past it usually takes me about 3 months to start feeling better and around 6 months to be back to my normal old self. One time it was 9 months. That’s just my experience. If you hold steady it should continue to get better. 
 

if you are searching for something on SA just go to google and type in what you are looking for and then surviving antidepressants. Example- Stomach surviving antidepressants . This site is huugge!

 

[Kiasofia]

Altostrata is very busy, so please don't tag her. We can't give you any definite answer. Withdrawal syndrome from quitting Prozac is likely, combined with adverse reaction to the others. You are in the process of healing from the consequence of antidepressant use regardless.

 

Great that you will be spreading awareness! Do read Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker (interview) and check out https://medicatingnormal.com/

 

 

[OptimisticRP]

26 minutes ago, Heath said:

@OptimisticRP glad you are feeling better! That’s a good sign!

 

are you still on Prozac?

what dose?

Liquid?

 

 I try to eat clean and not overeat. And it helps. Stay away from processed food and simple carbs (junk) where you can. 
 

same dose same time every day and you will continue to get better. And try to keep other schedules the same. 
 

When I have gone through this in past it usually takes me about 3 months to start feeling better and around 6 months to be back to my normal old self. One time it was 9 months. That’s just my experience. If you hold steady it should continue to get better. 
 

if you are searching for something on SA just go to google and type in what you are looking for and then surviving antidepressants. Example- Stomach surviving antidepressants . This site is huugge!

 

I never reinstated! I was going to buy started feeling a little better without it! And thank you for the support!

[OptimisticRP]

25 minutes ago, Kiasofia said:

Altostrata is very busy, so please don't tag her. We can't give you any definite answer. Withdrawal syndrome from quitting Prozac is likely, combined with adverse reaction to the others. You are in the process of healing from the consequence of antidepressant use regardless.

 

Great that you will be spreading awareness! Do read Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker (interview) and check out https://medicatingnormal.com/

 

 

Either way same recovery ?

[Kiasofia]

Either way, same healing pattern:

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

[OptimisticRP]

My girlfriend broke up with me, because of the current condition I’m in? Anything to help cope with this?  
 

 

@ChessieCat. @Kiasofia

[Kiasofia]

I'm sorry to hear that. It can be rough on those around us and hard for them to understand. Try exploring the Relationships and social life part of the forum as well as this thread: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Please limit tagging staff. We give advice about tapering and dealing with withdrawal, but need members to learn to search the forum themselves. 

[OptimisticRP]

https://stuff.health/s/Bp0hZE8J
 

I am unsure where to post this. I feel it might be helpful for everyone to put there input. And will also give a different location to get answer instead of asking moderators a lot like I do 😅

[Kiasofia]

What works/doesn't work is highly individual. What one person finds helpful, might make another person feel worse. I suggest spending some time on this thread. Read about magnesium, fish oil and melatonin:

Important topics about tests, supplements, treatments, diet

 

Inner Compass Initiative is a good resource to connect and learn more about other people's experience:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/507633113243148

https://www.theinnercompass.org/

 

[OptimisticRP]

Hello, so I went on a doctor search and found a doctor who said he understands withdrawals and has a regimen he goes to for this condition. I see him Tuesday. I asked him about his regimen and he said mainly low dose lithium and other natural things added in. And he said to me everyone who was dealing with what I am has recovered from his regimen. And he also said he published studies on this. I don’t know if I believe him. NYC psychiatrist. 
 

 

I did not add names but will if necessary. 

[OptimisticRP]

^ Also, if I take 2-4 MG if Valium as needed for the anxiety and 10-20 MG propanalol for the adrenaline dumps, will that hinder my recovery ? Or make it take longer ? 
 

I know you guys said in the past to look out for inter dose  withdrawal 

 

 @Kiasofia