peaceandlove Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 hours ago, Moe96 said: Hi, @peaceandlove, i don’t mean it in a bad way at all, but i’m a bit reassured to not be the only one who experiences that. Did it go away for you though? How long did you suffer with it? And also idk if you already do this but I wear a mask when I go out just in case, since I have no control of what other people spray, smoke etc it helps somewhat. @Moe96 1 April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe96 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 @peaceandlove oh really? that doesn’t sound so good… yeah i do wear a mask sometimes. It helps a little bit as u said. 1 08/2016-05/2018 Effexor 250mg 05/2018-04/2019 Paxil 40mg05/2019-08/2020 Effexor 150mg 05/2019 (risperidone for 4 days)12/2020-12/2021 Effexor 150mg12/2021-04/2022 Prozac 40mg (cross tappered for 10 days)02/2022 Abilify 10mg (2 weeks)04/2022-05/2022 Anafranil 50mg (one month)05/2022-06/2022 Strattera 40mg (one month), 07/2022 Bupropion 150mg (2 weeks)07/2022-11/2022 Duloxetine 90mg (with Concerta 54mg and Ritalin 10-20mg) 10/2022 - 11/2022 Quetiapine 25 mg for sleep02/2023 prozac 20 mg (3weeks),05/2023 Anfranil 25mg (2 days), 06/2023 Effexor (1 week 37,5mg, 4 days 75mg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe96 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Is it normal to react to coffee this badly too after kindling? I felt very suicidal shortly after finishing my cup of coffee for like a half hour today and yesterday. Haven’t had coffee in like 8 months after an adverse reaction cuz i was reacting horribly to everything then (and apparently now too, but to a somewhat lesser degree) and i wanted to try it out now cuz I’ve been craving it a lot lately, also to see if my body could tolerate caffeine now but i guess not yet… 1 08/2016-05/2018 Effexor 250mg 05/2018-04/2019 Paxil 40mg05/2019-08/2020 Effexor 150mg 05/2019 (risperidone for 4 days)12/2020-12/2021 Effexor 150mg12/2021-04/2022 Prozac 40mg (cross tappered for 10 days)02/2022 Abilify 10mg (2 weeks)04/2022-05/2022 Anafranil 50mg (one month)05/2022-06/2022 Strattera 40mg (one month), 07/2022 Bupropion 150mg (2 weeks)07/2022-11/2022 Duloxetine 90mg (with Concerta 54mg and Ritalin 10-20mg) 10/2022 - 11/2022 Quetiapine 25 mg for sleep02/2023 prozac 20 mg (3weeks),05/2023 Anfranil 25mg (2 days), 06/2023 Effexor (1 week 37,5mg, 4 days 75mg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safran Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I've been bedridden for 2 months now. I've been tapering off very slowly and the symptoms have gotten really bad. Anxiety, depression, heavy thoughts, fear don't let me watch TV or eat normally or anything. I don't know if it's a flare-up or just heavy wd or what. 2002. - 2021. Paroksetin 20mg 2021.: januar - I started reducing the dose, 14. mart / 18 mg, 16. maj / 16,2 mg, 18. jul / 14,6 mg, 19. septembar / 13,4 mg, 21. novembar / 12.12.21. pala na 11,2mg and then I kept her until 28. februara, when I increased the dose to 11,8mg. 2022: 7. maj / 11,65 mg, 1. jun / 11,35 mg, 4. jul / 10,9 mg, 1. avgust / 10,62 mg, 5. septembar / 9,72 mg, 3. oktobar / 9,24 mg, 07. novembar / 9,01 mg, 5. decembar / 8,55 mg. 2023: 2. januar / 8,25 mg, 6. februar / 7,9 mg, 6. mart / 7,5 mg, 3. april /7,3 mg, 1. maj / 7,1 mg, 5. jun / 6,7 mg, 3. jul / 6,46 mg,7. avgust / 6,30 mg, Sep. 04 / 6,14 mg, Okt. 02 /5,98 mg, 16. dec / 6,54 mg,(upp 0,56mg). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortugueseSea Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/18/2024 at 12:40 AM, Moe96 said: Is it normal to react to coffee this badly too after kindling? I felt very suicidal shortly after finishing my cup of coffee for like a half hour today and yesterday. Haven’t had coffee in like 8 months after an adverse reaction cuz i was reacting horribly to everything then (and apparently now too, but to a somewhat lesser degree) and i wanted to try it out now cuz I’ve been craving it a lot lately, also to see if my body could tolerate caffeine now but i guess not yet… In my humble opinion, for somebody who has or is experiencing activation, akathisia or agitation coffee is worse than alcohol. I can tolerate decaf but even a stronger tea can send me pacing and or cause extreme discomfort and inner tension... Eventually, eventually, we will be able to get back to our cups of coffee... December 2021 - Metoclopramide started. Akathisia symptoms start; Metoclopramide gets changed to PRN. March 2022 - Akathisia diagnosed; Metoclopramide stopped; Propranolol 10mg x twice a day. Biperiden PRN (0.5mg to 1mg). April 2022 - Tandospirone 30mg (10mg 3x day), Quetiapine 25mg (only taken once, immediate adr). Mirtazapine 7.5mg. . Discontinued Propranolol. May 2022 - Mirtazapine upped to 15mg. Tandospirone cut to 2x 10mg. Low dose Depakote for the month; 100 to 200 to 100 to 0. Mirtazapine cut back to 11.75mg (3/4 of a 15mg pill).June 2022 - Mirtazapine updose to 15mg. Tandospirone, Biperiden discontinued. Klonopin started PRN (0.5mg). September 2022 - Akathisia slowly starts improving, WD/ADR normal sets in in mid September. Hold for 4 months.March 2023 - Off mirtazapine; no Klonopin for 5 months either! Started quercetin (250mg x 2) to soften the histamine rebound. May 2023 - Stopped quercetin and changed from magnesium carbonate to oxide - reacted badly. Reverted back to carbonate. June 2023 - Added fish oil.Current regimen: CALM Magnesium (Carbonate into Citrate) 175mg x2; Vitamin E 268mg x2; Fish oil (100mg Omega3; EPA 30mg; DHA 37mg)x2 Intro thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/27095-portuguesesea-metoclopramide-akathisia-and-mirtazapine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugHK Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 So I definitely kindled in the spring of 2021 as per my signature. Also messed around a LOT with the dosage and medication regimen between 2019 and early 2022. My plan since the second wave I experienced in 2022 is to stick to 45mg for good - no interest in experiencing many more years of withdrawal. One thing I find weird is that I had months where I was literally almost back to normal in early 2022, and my nervous system did not feel sensitive back then. the waves seem to be sparked randomly rather than by specific events. For example, I recently had a decent window in January to mid Feb, despite an antibiotic course, and super painful abscess draining where they pulled my toe nail out. But then randomly last week, my anxiety and pins and needles in feet and brain started worsening again for no reason and now it's pretty bad again. does kindling happen in waves too? Nov 2019: put on amitriptyline 100mg for insomnia. Worked great, sleep back to normal by March 2020 Jan 2020: Amitriptyline down to 50mg. Some withdrawal for two weeks. April-May 2020: tapered off amitriptyline a first time over 6 weeks. withdrawal. June 2020: reinstated amitriptyline 50mg a first time. Things improved progressively for 6 months. Backto normal in November December 2020: new attempt at tapering amitriptyline (from 50mg), slower this time February 2021: 30mg amitriptyline... withdrawal starts March 2021: reinstatement 35mg amitriptyline, then 50mg late march. April 2021: increased dosage to 75mg; Kindling started, HORRIFIC. July 2021: reinstatement clearly made things worse so I decide to taper slowly again, at 2.5mg per month March-April 2022: I hit 45mg amitriptyline dosage, withdrawal has drastically improved, symptom intensity down to 2 or 3 out of ten. Able to exercise, drink etc no issues. I pause the taper. I have stayed on 45mg of amitriptyline ever since. May 2022: New wave of withdrawal, lasts until January 2023 (nerve pain in my skull) May 2023: New wave, this time anxiety and pins and needles in my head, much like the kindling reaction in 2021. Not sure what caused it. Wave still ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 My kindling experience is initially like a seizure. I have horrible nightmares, nausea and diarrhea. My first one happened after a reintroduction of Zoloft when I hadn't been tapered off Cymbalta 4 years earlier. I immediately stopped the Zoloft. My muscles contract and I feel paresthesia all over my body on and off for up to 12 days. I am so ill I am bedridden. If I try to do too much my muscles burn until I lie down and then it takes an hour to recover. I have had about 15 overlapping kindling events this year because I didn't realize I shouldn't be trying supplements, vitamins, CBD oil to stop the kindling. I was hypersensitive to: Gatorade, B vitamins, Fish oil, photolytic enyzymes, CBD roll on, nutritional yeast, ginger tea. I became lactose and gluten intolerant. Other foods kindled me: potatoes, almond milk, banana (really bad!), Green juice smoothie. I hope that this helps anyone else who has this type of experience as a reminder not to try more supplements and validation that this is happening to others. 2 Prozac 1993 (Severe adverse rxn) Klonopin 1993-present Zoloft 1993 Paxil 2000s Cymbalta 2010-May 2016 Diagnosed Bipolar so Cymbalta Discontinued (Rapid withdrawal 1 month) left with severe discontinuation syndrome to present Night Klonopin 1 mg continues to present Night Lamictal 200 mg Night Lithium 600 mg Night Prazosin 5 mg (severe, multiple nightmares/night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeindians Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Need help with kindling logic. I reinstated with a 1/10 of my old dose of lexapro. I used liquid 1 ml instead of 10 MG and my symptoms got worse. I developed tinnitus during the process. This intensity of tinnitus is the same as it was about the was 3 years ago. Can you get severe kindling from such a small dose ? I'm kinda fed up with my ears ringing for years non stop along with other symptoms. I'm about 16 months out from my last dose. 2021 mid February lexapro 10 mg 2022 start Jan - end January (30 day taper to 10 mg - 0 mg of lexapro using nail filer) , 100mg of 5HTP mid feb- end feb mid may 2022 - mid november 2022 taper 1.0 mg lexapro unorthodox taper to 0.0 mg by mixing it up with salt water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeindians Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 8/17/2023 at 1:40 PM, margaretLO said: Hello. Kindling and receptors damage from lots of lexapro reistatements can be fixed? Ty 😊. I hope so cause I'm the perfect patient for kindling. I'm an "edgy" person naturally. I hope my ears will stop ringing. 2021 mid February lexapro 10 mg 2022 start Jan - end January (30 day taper to 10 mg - 0 mg of lexapro using nail filer) , 100mg of 5HTP mid feb- end feb mid may 2022 - mid november 2022 taper 1.0 mg lexapro unorthodox taper to 0.0 mg by mixing it up with salt water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindi Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 For those of you who have experienced kindling after from antidepressant discontinuation syndrome have you kindled on dental drugs like Novocaine? Prozac 1993 (Severe adverse rxn) Klonopin 1993-present Zoloft 1993 Paxil 2000s Cymbalta 2010-May 2016 Diagnosed Bipolar so Cymbalta Discontinued (Rapid withdrawal 1 month) left with severe discontinuation syndrome to present Night Klonopin 1 mg continues to present Night Lamictal 200 mg Night Lithium 600 mg Night Prazosin 5 mg (severe, multiple nightmares/night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepPls009 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Cindi said: For those of you who have experienced kindling after from antidepressant discontinuation syndrome have you kindled on dental drugs like Novocaine? @Cindi I did have a reaction to Novocain a few years ago. Mind you, it wasn't a terrible reaction; I had a brief moment where I felt lightheaded and woozy and then felt a little "high" (i.e. oddly relaxed, spacy) for a few hours after. Didn't seem to increase my sensitivities to other things, but I was clearly sensitive to Novocain, itself. If you find you are reacting to everything and that your symptoms worsen shortly after, you might want to be careful with Novocaine. Otherwise, it may be something that you can tolerate if you need it for a procedure. You could always try explaining your sensitivities t the dentist and asking them to give you a small dose first to test how you're going to react. 1 SleepPls009 Current – Nothing but Aug-Oct -melatonin 2, nebivolol 2.5, amlodipine 2.5,, rosuvastatin, dayvigo 5mg, nefazodone 1x 25mg July 23 – Nebivolol 1.25 mg, amlodipine 2.5 mg, budesonide, omeprazole, rosuvastatin 5mg May-Jun 23–Nebivolol 2.5, Amlodipine 2.5, Budesonide, omeprazole, rosuvastatin 5mg April 23- Amlodipine 2.5 mg, Omeprazole 40mg, Budesonide nasal rinse 1/day, Feb 23-March 23- Bisoprolol 2.5 mg (1/24-2/1), Atenolol 5mg (2/12-3/1) Nov 22-Jan23 – Metoprolol 25 mg, Ranolazine 500mg (Nov), Coreg 1.125 (Dec-Jan) October 22 – Quviviq 25 mg, Lunesta 3mg, mirtazipine 30mg September22 – Melatonin 1mg, Ambien 5 mg, Ramelteon 8mg, Seroquel 50-125mg June 22 – Sertraline 100mg, seroquel 25-50 mg, Ambien 10mg, Amitryptiline 25 mg, July-Aug 22 –Melatonin 1mg nightly (July), Dayvigo 5 mg, Ambien 5mg ~2002-2022: Luvox 100mg daily until April 12, 2022, May 22: Prozac 20mg – May 12-June 1, Klonazepam, as needed, Trazedone (once) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfoldingSky Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Cindi said: For those of you who have experienced kindling after from antidepressant discontinuation syndrome have you kindled on dental drugs like Novocaine? I was years out from a kindling reaction before having dental work done but, I had anesthetic without epinephrine and handled it okay. You could ask if you could have a different anesthetic without epinephrine maybe? One time a long time after my reaction they gave me a large dose of one without and rather than something negative happening I felt giddy and unusually happy. I was honestly sorry when it wore off lol. I should say too the worst symptoms I had like akathisia were gone when I tried anesthetic. I have no idea what would have happened when I had those problems. 1 I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindi Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 This is very reassuring because I am hypersensitive to so many drugs and supplements. I get akathisia for days. I will let the dentist know. Thank you. Prozac 1993 (Severe adverse rxn) Klonopin 1993-present Zoloft 1993 Paxil 2000s Cymbalta 2010-May 2016 Diagnosed Bipolar so Cymbalta Discontinued (Rapid withdrawal 1 month) left with severe discontinuation syndrome to present Night Klonopin 1 mg continues to present Night Lamictal 200 mg Night Lithium 600 mg Night Prazosin 5 mg (severe, multiple nightmares/night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindi Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Thank you SleepPls I will let the dentist know. Appreciate hearing your experience. Prozac 1993 (Severe adverse rxn) Klonopin 1993-present Zoloft 1993 Paxil 2000s Cymbalta 2010-May 2016 Diagnosed Bipolar so Cymbalta Discontinued (Rapid withdrawal 1 month) left with severe discontinuation syndrome to present Night Klonopin 1 mg continues to present Night Lamictal 200 mg Night Lithium 600 mg Night Prazosin 5 mg (severe, multiple nightmares/night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDaly Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 10/12/2022 at 12:48 AM, Shep said: If you're having adverse reactions that are more severe than withdrawal, than holding may not be the best answer. It's rare this site recommends tapering while unstable, but severe adverse reactions are an exception to this rule. I had hypersensitivity in withdrawal for 1.5 months after CTing at 10mg of Fluoxetine (silly, I know). Waves of symptoms were triggered mainly by orgasm, caffeine, exercise and stress. However, they were just that: waves; and I was getting windows too. The problem is that I then began taking high dose EPA fish oil every day, which I didn't realise for 3 months was causing constant waves. I thought my windows were gone, so 2 months into taking fish oil I reinstated at 1mg of Fluoxetine. I increased too quickly to 4mg within 3 weeks, and had a severe adverse reaction - full blown akathisia, which I got rid of by going back down to 1mg. I had a couple of windows after stopping fish oil, having finally identified that as a trigger shortly after going back down to 1mg. I tried going up again to 2mg after 3 more weeks but again an adverse reaction, though not as severe. I think I am now just getting a constant adverse reaction every day I dose at 1mg, so I'm having no windows anymore. Would it make sense to just stop the reinstatement after what is now 2.5 months? My thinking is that at least then I would go back to hypersensitivity, with windows and waves, rather than constant suffering through an adverse reaction. Obviously I am worried about another withdrawal, but it would only be from 1mg this time rather than 10mg. 2008-13: Fluoxetine, 20mg intermittently, for low mood/lack of focus & 2015-2018: 40mg for situational low mood, but stayed on. 2018: cold turkey, causing breakdown around exams but now recognise was withdrawal, reinstated Fluoxetine without issue, 40mg. 2018-Oct 2021: Fluoxetine at 40mg, plus 2 x short term diazepam, zopiclone & propranolol for nervous breakdowns Oct 2021-June 2022: stopped Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine 15mg nightly instead; also regularly prescribed diazepam, zopiclone & propranolol in this time. June/July 2022: 10 days on Trazodone; back on Fluoxetine, increasing from 10mg to 40mg between July & September Aug-Nov 2022: worsening bouts of anxiety/panic due to repeated Diazepam kindling (tapered from 14mg (probably too rapid), 0mg by 20 Nov) & possible adverse reaction to restarting Fluoxetine. Jan 2023: reduced Fluoxetine from 40mg to 20mg in preparation for switching to Sertaline or Escitalopram, but hit a window, so did not go ahead with switch. Bad waves and windows until May 2023, when started to ease up, albeit still far from baseline, with help from ketogenic diet June-Sept 2023: tapered from 20mg Fluoxetine to 10mg using liquid (2mg every 3 weeks) - quite comfortable until 12mg then huge, suicidal wave. 2 Jan: reinstated at 1mg, increase to 4mg over 3 weeks; adverse reaction; back down to 1mg as of 22 Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffa Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 11/14/2022 at 1:23 AM, Terry4949 said: ’m just curious as to what people think as the author says that he believes that if depression is not treated that for every time you have a bout it increases your chances of another bout significantly I saw a psychiatrist yesterday to discuss tapering off sertraline with liquid suspension. This idea of depression and anxiety being an underlying "illness" that will immerge once I come off medication was thrown at me. Feeling a bit annoyed I asked some probing questions to which I received answers much like this one about untreated depression. I asked if I could see the science on this theory - that depression caused damage to the brain that was serious and would cause more depressive episodes if left untreated. I came away flabbergasted and angry. How ironic that they offer drugs that damage the brain to " allow the brain to heal". ARRRGGHHHH 4 2003 Paxil - I can't remember the dose but I think it was 10mg experienced horrendous akathisia when starting for 3 weeks then okay 2004. slow reduction to 0 , withdrawal symptoms, so reinstated to 10mg - again horrendous Akathisia which lasted 5 weeks. 2005 - attempted to slowly taper off and again Terrible withdrawal so reinstated and endured akathisia until it settled. Psychiatrist changed me over to Zoloft so that I could have another baby. No adverse reaction with the switch except terrible diorreah 2006 tried once more to come off Zoloft carefully with terrible results. reinstated Zoloft and used 2.5 mg of zyprexa to help Akathisia- horrid episode lasted 3 months with some akathisia and severe depression which I’d never had before. Withdrawal from zyprexa ( depression) 2008 50 mg of Zoloft then after 6 months I tapered to 25 mg and decided to stay there . 2012 stress event and peri menopause acute anxiety which led to, updosing to 125 mg, tortuous symptoms(akathisia) then stabilized, back to 50 mg- 2014 - same again down to 25 with Akathisia on updosing and a hospital visit. 2019 - 2023 Zoloft tapering by 2 mg linear taper every 3 months started at 50 mg, got to 25 mg around January 2023. June 2023- health anxiety and what feels like withdrawal again. Insomnia, anxiety, blunted good feelings. 2023 June- Zyprexa taken twice, ativan 1 mg taken once, temazepan infrequent but 15- 18th of June used for 4 nights 2023 August - introduced 7.5 mg of mirtazapine for 12 days then 15mg of mirtazapine. Sleep now ok but daily life depression, anhedonia, agitation and a weird feeling of being sedate and anxious at the same time. Currently holding. My introduction thread: Jaffa: Possibly late onset withdrawal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy27 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 So i took a magnesium glycinate yesterday for the first time. Ive had magnesium in the past before WD and have done fine. I got really jittery at first and then i got super lathargic. Today i have awful depression, dread and anxiety. When you get these reactions do you continue taking the supplement in hopes in adapting or do you stop and try later? 2012 july started prozac (i cant remember dosage) 2013 october tappered off prozac so i could switch to valafexine. Nov 2013 started valafexine 37.5 day Dec 2013 went up to 150 mg a day of valafexine (2-75s) 2020-started trazadone 1 50 mg March 2022 - started tapper valafexine. I would take a 75 mg and cut 1/4 off of the second 75 mg tablet. July 2023- completely off valafexine Oct 5th 2023 started 2 25s a day of valafexine Oct 9th went up to 100mg of valafexine a day Oct 14 went down to 37.5 of valafexine. Oct 21 started mirtazapine 15 mg and 2- 5 mg buspar Oct 23 stopped valafexine Oct 28 stopped buspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farm24 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, missy27 said: So i took a magnesium glycinate yesterday for the first time. Ive had magnesium in the past before WD and have done fine. I got really jittery at first and then i got super lathargic. Today i have awful depression, dread and anxiety. When you get these reactions do you continue taking the supplement in hopes in adapting or do you stop and try later? I had exactly this reaction to it! I had to stop. Any magnesium is causing me some depression atm Sertaline- tried 50 mg beginning of June 2023. Caused hyperreflexia. So stopped after one dose. Tried several smaller doses that month. Had burning and twitching so just stopped. Lexapro June of 2023' 2.5 mg for two weeks July of 2023 5 mg for two weeks July of 2023 7.5 mg for 2 weeks August to mid September 10 mg Mid September reduced to 7.5 October to October 15 reduced to 5 October 15 to October 30 reduced to 2.5 October 30-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy27 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 18 minutes ago, Farm24 said: I had exactly this reaction to it! I had to stop. Any magnesium is causing me some depression atm REALLY? Thank you for sharing. Hopefully someday we can take it without this reaction. 2012 july started prozac (i cant remember dosage) 2013 october tappered off prozac so i could switch to valafexine. Nov 2013 started valafexine 37.5 day Dec 2013 went up to 150 mg a day of valafexine (2-75s) 2020-started trazadone 1 50 mg March 2022 - started tapper valafexine. I would take a 75 mg and cut 1/4 off of the second 75 mg tablet. July 2023- completely off valafexine Oct 5th 2023 started 2 25s a day of valafexine Oct 9th went up to 100mg of valafexine a day Oct 14 went down to 37.5 of valafexine. Oct 21 started mirtazapine 15 mg and 2- 5 mg buspar Oct 23 stopped valafexine Oct 28 stopped buspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 +1 for horrible depression from magnesium. I’ve tried all types, at all dosages, but it always makes me feel absolutely awful. So I just eat foods with a healthy amount of natural magnesium in. If it’s one thing I’ve learned, my body loves naturally nutritious foods, and hates man-made synthetic supplements- even fortified foods are out. It’s not a problem though, the vast majority of people don’t need any supplements at all, they’re a complete waste of money. Much like the pharma industry has convinced the world anxiety and depression needs ‘fixing’ with a pill, the supplement industry has told everybody they’ll only ever be at their best if they take their products. It’s all marketing nonsense. On 2/17/2024 at 3:40 PM, Moe96 said: Is it normal to react to coffee this badly too after kindling? I felt very suicidal shortly after finishing my cup of coffee for like a half hour today and yesterday. Haven’t had coffee in like 8 months after an adverse reaction cuz i was reacting horribly to everything then (and apparently now too, but to a somewhat lesser degree) and i wanted to try it out now cuz I’ve been craving it a lot lately, also to see if my body could tolerate caffeine now but i guess not yet… It’s worth mentioning that even a completely healthy person (not in withdrawal) would probably have an unusually strong reaction to caffeine after 8 months off. By the point, the nervous system has adjusted, the brain has healed, and no longer ‘needs’ caffeine to function. So essentially it’s like using a powerful drug for the first time again. Caffeine doubles the amount of stress hormones in the blood, especially adrenaline and cortisol, for several hours (for some people up to 24 hours) after ingestion. Meanwhile the dopamine spike - which causes the warm ‘feel good’ sensations, and is responsible for the cravings and addiction to caffeine - only lasts about 30 minutes! It’s a pretty bad trade off really. 2 Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, jon1 said: +1 for horrible depression from magnesium. I’ve tried all types, at all dosages, but it always makes me feel absolutely awful. So I just eat foods with a healthy amount of natural magnesium in. @jon1 Which foods do you eat that have good magnesium? 1996 Effexor XR 1996-2012 Prozac and Klonipin 2012: physician took me off Prozac rapidly. Severe (unrecognized) withdrawal. Went inpatient and was poly-drugged -- rapid changes of SSRIs, antipsychotics and benzodiazepines. 2012 Paxil 40mg 2012 Xanax XR 6mg 2019 Xanax XR .5mg (tapered down to this level since being prescribed in 2012) 2014-2022 Gabapentin (tapered down to zero from 1800mg) May 2023 HRT - estriol, estradiol, testosterone, progesterone. Dec. 8, 2023 - stopped progesterone pill (started having awful reactions); inconsistent with estrogen and testosterone combined cream in confusion of severe withdrawal symptoms. Dec. 14, 2023: Estrogen/testosterone cream: Back on about 1/4 amount I was taking previously of estrogen and testosterone cream (1.5 pumps out of 4 -- full amount seemed to ignite some kind of fire in my hyper sensitive state); did not resume progesterone (b/c of bad reactions after taking in WD) December 2022: Paxil 40 to 30mg (went OK); May 2023: Paxil 30 to 20 mg (went OK); Oct. 14, 2023: Paxil 15mg; Oct. 21, 2023: Paxil 10mg Nov. 9, 2023: tried reinstating to 20mg but reacted very badly (kindling?) November 18, 2023: 7.5ml (15mg equivalent) *switch to manufacturer's liquid, Novatium* Conventional psych doc switched me to 7.5ml liquid b/c tiny pills were splitting unevenly - further destabilization by both switching to liquid and changing dose at same time. November 2023 - present: *severe* withdrawal symptoms, akathisia Dec. 6 - manufacturer change on alprazolam er (further destabilization?). Normal mfr very difficult to find now. Jan 6 2024 - stopped coffee and all forms of caffeine. Eliminated dairy, processed foods, sugar. Gluten intolerant so no gluten. Low fodmap diet for gut issues, daily leafy greens, a lot of protein to avoid blood sugar spikes after meals and also for akathisia. Feb 27 2024 - doc had me stop hormone cream. FDA-required formulation had changed and she was worried about my transition to something new. She also said that the estrogen/testosterone hormones are activating. I had already dropped a good bit in dose early in withdrawal (Dec 14 2023 above) b/c it got lost in the chaos of early withdrawal. March 2024 - doctor having me try propranolol for akathisia. First as needed starting around Mar 7 and then daily starting around Mar 23. (aka very bad in morning especially) Apr 2 2024 - stopped propranolol. Think it was interefering with sleep and causing other side effects. May keep on as prn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 31 minutes ago, Bailey said: @jon1 Which foods do you eat that have good magnesium? I've found the easiest to eat are nuts and seeds, a lot of which contain really high amounts. Sometimes I'll snack on some in the day, but generally I'll include them in meals - along with greens like spinach - over the course of a week. Consuming too much of anything gets quite boring! I also eat a couple of bananas a day, and eat oats for breakfast. It all adds up. The good thing about eating food for magnesium is that you get lots of other healthy nutrients at the same time too. There are no concerns about consuming too much of a supplement because the body knows how to process food and will always find its natural balance. Here's a short list of foods that contain magnesium, but I'm sure there are more detailed websites. https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/foods-high-in-magnesium#which-foods Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, jon1 said: I've found the easiest to eat are nuts and seeds, a lot of which contain really high amounts. Thank you @jon1. All of that is really helpful. I'm already eating a fair amount of nuts each day -- almonds, pecans, peanuts (I know it's a legume) and macadamia nuts so that's good news. Thank for all the other information, too. 1 1996 Effexor XR 1996-2012 Prozac and Klonipin 2012: physician took me off Prozac rapidly. Severe (unrecognized) withdrawal. Went inpatient and was poly-drugged -- rapid changes of SSRIs, antipsychotics and benzodiazepines. 2012 Paxil 40mg 2012 Xanax XR 6mg 2019 Xanax XR .5mg (tapered down to this level since being prescribed in 2012) 2014-2022 Gabapentin (tapered down to zero from 1800mg) May 2023 HRT - estriol, estradiol, testosterone, progesterone. Dec. 8, 2023 - stopped progesterone pill (started having awful reactions); inconsistent with estrogen and testosterone combined cream in confusion of severe withdrawal symptoms. Dec. 14, 2023: Estrogen/testosterone cream: Back on about 1/4 amount I was taking previously of estrogen and testosterone cream (1.5 pumps out of 4 -- full amount seemed to ignite some kind of fire in my hyper sensitive state); did not resume progesterone (b/c of bad reactions after taking in WD) December 2022: Paxil 40 to 30mg (went OK); May 2023: Paxil 30 to 20 mg (went OK); Oct. 14, 2023: Paxil 15mg; Oct. 21, 2023: Paxil 10mg Nov. 9, 2023: tried reinstating to 20mg but reacted very badly (kindling?) November 18, 2023: 7.5ml (15mg equivalent) *switch to manufacturer's liquid, Novatium* Conventional psych doc switched me to 7.5ml liquid b/c tiny pills were splitting unevenly - further destabilization by both switching to liquid and changing dose at same time. November 2023 - present: *severe* withdrawal symptoms, akathisia Dec. 6 - manufacturer change on alprazolam er (further destabilization?). Normal mfr very difficult to find now. Jan 6 2024 - stopped coffee and all forms of caffeine. Eliminated dairy, processed foods, sugar. Gluten intolerant so no gluten. Low fodmap diet for gut issues, daily leafy greens, a lot of protein to avoid blood sugar spikes after meals and also for akathisia. Feb 27 2024 - doc had me stop hormone cream. FDA-required formulation had changed and she was worried about my transition to something new. She also said that the estrogen/testosterone hormones are activating. I had already dropped a good bit in dose early in withdrawal (Dec 14 2023 above) b/c it got lost in the chaos of early withdrawal. March 2024 - doctor having me try propranolol for akathisia. First as needed starting around Mar 7 and then daily starting around Mar 23. (aka very bad in morning especially) Apr 2 2024 - stopped propranolol. Think it was interefering with sleep and causing other side effects. May keep on as prn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 38 minutes ago, Bailey said: Thank you @jon1. All of that is really helpful. I'm already eating a fair amount of nuts each day -- almonds, pecans, peanuts (I know it's a legume) and macadamia nuts so that's good news. Thank for all the other information, too. You're welcome! Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy27 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Thank you so much @jon1. I really appreciate your input on this. I have been putting celtic sea salt in my water to help with mineral, i read ot has 3 types of magnesium in it as well. I believe your right, supplements at the most natural source is best. 1 2012 july started prozac (i cant remember dosage) 2013 october tappered off prozac so i could switch to valafexine. Nov 2013 started valafexine 37.5 day Dec 2013 went up to 150 mg a day of valafexine (2-75s) 2020-started trazadone 1 50 mg March 2022 - started tapper valafexine. I would take a 75 mg and cut 1/4 off of the second 75 mg tablet. July 2023- completely off valafexine Oct 5th 2023 started 2 25s a day of valafexine Oct 9th went up to 100mg of valafexine a day Oct 14 went down to 37.5 of valafexine. Oct 21 started mirtazapine 15 mg and 2- 5 mg buspar Oct 23 stopped valafexine Oct 28 stopped buspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe96 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Hello @jon1, I said i had that reaction for a half hour but looking back it was longer than that. Only the very intense suicidal feeling that you get when you CT an antidepressant that lasted for like 30 mins, But I stayed severely depressed with intense suicidal thoughts for like 3 days after! felt like i was kindled by caffeine. I checked some benzo withdrawal subreddits to see if people had a similar reaction when they’re in withdrawal and apparently some of them did. 1 08/2016-05/2018 Effexor 250mg 05/2018-04/2019 Paxil 40mg05/2019-08/2020 Effexor 150mg 05/2019 (risperidone for 4 days)12/2020-12/2021 Effexor 150mg12/2021-04/2022 Prozac 40mg (cross tappered for 10 days)02/2022 Abilify 10mg (2 weeks)04/2022-05/2022 Anafranil 50mg (one month)05/2022-06/2022 Strattera 40mg (one month), 07/2022 Bupropion 150mg (2 weeks)07/2022-11/2022 Duloxetine 90mg (with Concerta 54mg and Ritalin 10-20mg) 10/2022 - 11/2022 Quetiapine 25 mg for sleep02/2023 prozac 20 mg (3weeks),05/2023 Anfranil 25mg (2 days), 06/2023 Effexor (1 week 37,5mg, 4 days 75mg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I came off Prozac 20mg 4 months ago, I started taking 20mg again 5 days ago and feeling really awful - scared I’m kindling as I’m panicking and have that electric feeling they mentioned as a symptom - but could that just be withdrawal? Does this mean I won’t be able to go back on any antidepressants to stop withdrawals? If I am kindling, will it only be with fluoxetine?What are my options here? Shall I go down to a smaller dose? Any advice would be great thank you! 2014-2018 3 years of 50mg Sertraline Tapered by reducing the amount of days taking the medication - never the dosage for about 5 months. 2-3 weeks from last dose started feeling anxious took 1x 50 mg (stupidly) and for the next week began experiencing withdrawals Reinstated at same dose for 2 weeks 5 days then with advice of doctor CT 5 weeks of withdrawals - first window of 6 days 2018-2023 Prozac 20mg. 2022-2023 took 1 x 20 mg a week / 1.5 weeks - seemed to still be stable 2023 October I came off CT 2024 18th March - reinstated at 20mg for 4 days 22nd March - went down to 0.4 which I am now holding for 7 days so far supplements - lions mane, magnesium and omega - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortugueseSea Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Josh said: I came off Prozac 20mg 4 months ago, I started taking 20mg again 5 days ago and feeling really awful - scared I’m kindling as I’m panicking and have that electric feeling they mentioned as a symptom - but could that just be withdrawal? Does this mean I won’t be able to go back on any antidepressants to stop withdrawals? If I am kindling, will it only be with fluoxetine?What are my options here? Shall I go down to a smaller dose? Any advice would be great thank you! Please look at the information on reinstatement. Going back on 20mg was probably too much of a dose. That electric feeling you are getting is probably activation and likely a sign your dose is too high. Ask these questions on your personal thread please! Hang in there! Hope it helps! December 2021 - Metoclopramide started. Akathisia symptoms start; Metoclopramide gets changed to PRN. March 2022 - Akathisia diagnosed; Metoclopramide stopped; Propranolol 10mg x twice a day. Biperiden PRN (0.5mg to 1mg). April 2022 - Tandospirone 30mg (10mg 3x day), Quetiapine 25mg (only taken once, immediate adr). Mirtazapine 7.5mg. . Discontinued Propranolol. May 2022 - Mirtazapine upped to 15mg. Tandospirone cut to 2x 10mg. Low dose Depakote for the month; 100 to 200 to 100 to 0. Mirtazapine cut back to 11.75mg (3/4 of a 15mg pill).June 2022 - Mirtazapine updose to 15mg. Tandospirone, Biperiden discontinued. Klonopin started PRN (0.5mg). September 2022 - Akathisia slowly starts improving, WD/ADR normal sets in in mid September. Hold for 4 months.March 2023 - Off mirtazapine; no Klonopin for 5 months either! Started quercetin (250mg x 2) to soften the histamine rebound. May 2023 - Stopped quercetin and changed from magnesium carbonate to oxide - reacted badly. Reverted back to carbonate. June 2023 - Added fish oil.Current regimen: CALM Magnesium (Carbonate into Citrate) 175mg x2; Vitamin E 268mg x2; Fish oil (100mg Omega3; EPA 30mg; DHA 37mg)x2 Intro thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/27095-portuguesesea-metoclopramide-akathisia-and-mirtazapine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy27 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Has anyone experienced deep joint pain with the hypersensitivity phase? 2012 july started prozac (i cant remember dosage) 2013 october tappered off prozac so i could switch to valafexine. Nov 2013 started valafexine 37.5 day Dec 2013 went up to 150 mg a day of valafexine (2-75s) 2020-started trazadone 1 50 mg March 2022 - started tapper valafexine. I would take a 75 mg and cut 1/4 off of the second 75 mg tablet. July 2023- completely off valafexine Oct 5th 2023 started 2 25s a day of valafexine Oct 9th went up to 100mg of valafexine a day Oct 14 went down to 37.5 of valafexine. Oct 21 started mirtazapine 15 mg and 2- 5 mg buspar Oct 23 stopped valafexine Oct 28 stopped buspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farm24 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, missy27 said: Has anyone experienced deep joint pain with the hypersensitivity phase? I'm having joint pain right now. Mostly at night when I'm more stagnant. Sertaline- tried 50 mg beginning of June 2023. Caused hyperreflexia. So stopped after one dose. Tried several smaller doses that month. Had burning and twitching so just stopped. Lexapro June of 2023' 2.5 mg for two weeks July of 2023 5 mg for two weeks July of 2023 7.5 mg for 2 weeks August to mid September 10 mg Mid September reduced to 7.5 October to October 15 reduced to 5 October 15 to October 30 reduced to 2.5 October 30-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy27 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Farm24 said: I'm having joint pain right now. Mostly at night when I'm more stagnant. Ive never had this before, so im wondering if there is a link between the two. 2012 july started prozac (i cant remember dosage) 2013 october tappered off prozac so i could switch to valafexine. Nov 2013 started valafexine 37.5 day Dec 2013 went up to 150 mg a day of valafexine (2-75s) 2020-started trazadone 1 50 mg March 2022 - started tapper valafexine. I would take a 75 mg and cut 1/4 off of the second 75 mg tablet. July 2023- completely off valafexine Oct 5th 2023 started 2 25s a day of valafexine Oct 9th went up to 100mg of valafexine a day Oct 14 went down to 37.5 of valafexine. Oct 21 started mirtazapine 15 mg and 2- 5 mg buspar Oct 23 stopped valafexine Oct 28 stopped buspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 How do you know if you're reacting badly to supplements? I have such bad brain fog/lethargy and am worried it might be MCAS instead of kindling or wd Jan 2014-April 2023: 10 mg Lexapro April-June 2023: Too quick taper. Alternating 10 mg and 5 mg doses, then 5 mg and 0 mg doses (at GP's advice), then jumped off June-Sept 2023: Off meds, increasing WD symptoms, complete crash by mid Sept October 2023: Reinstated Lexapro at 10 mg (at GP's advice), probable kindling reaction - also tried alimemazine, mianserine, mirtazapine and different antihistamines for a week each for sleep but stopped due to "side effects" (adverse reactions) Jan 2024: Found SA. New taper 5-10% cuts, Jan 31 9 mg, Feb 19 8.5 mg, March 14 8.4 mg, March 29 8.1 mg, (reducing by 0.1 mg every 4th day or so) - April 2 8.0 mg (discovered and corrected syringe measuring mistakes) Supplements: B12, multivitamins, fish oil, other drugs: Alimemazine and melatonin occasionally for sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz91 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Peach said: How do you know if you're reacting badly to supplements? I have such bad brain fog/lethargy and am worried it might be MCAS instead of kindling or wd I honestly have the same worries, I get hives and now worry that I have mcas. It’s so hard to know what is what. Citalopram 10mg sep14-nov14, cit 20mg nov14-jan15, cit 40mg jan15 -jan22, tapered cit 40mg-0mg in 10 days. mirtazapine 15mg then 30mg jan22-Mar22, tapered in 1 week. citalopram 20mg apr22- may22( had a reaction this time, hives everywhere), no taper cold turkey sertraline 50mg then 100mg may22-nov22, tapered in 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Tigz91 said: I honestly have the same worries, I get hives and now worry that I have mcas. It’s so hard to know what is what. I have an upcoming appointment with Anders Sørensen (here's some of his stuff https://www.madinamerica.com/2022/05/alternative-psychiatry-discovered/?fbclid=IwAR0MKpMksKDTmG-X0FDtkVKN3Q-lq5b8S8IxO5UOy9bQNh83blpv3KoM1cw), I'll try and ask him and see if there's anything he knows about it. Jan 2014-April 2023: 10 mg Lexapro April-June 2023: Too quick taper. Alternating 10 mg and 5 mg doses, then 5 mg and 0 mg doses (at GP's advice), then jumped off June-Sept 2023: Off meds, increasing WD symptoms, complete crash by mid Sept October 2023: Reinstated Lexapro at 10 mg (at GP's advice), probable kindling reaction - also tried alimemazine, mianserine, mirtazapine and different antihistamines for a week each for sleep but stopped due to "side effects" (adverse reactions) Jan 2024: Found SA. New taper 5-10% cuts, Jan 31 9 mg, Feb 19 8.5 mg, March 14 8.4 mg, March 29 8.1 mg, (reducing by 0.1 mg every 4th day or so) - April 2 8.0 mg (discovered and corrected syringe measuring mistakes) Supplements: B12, multivitamins, fish oil, other drugs: Alimemazine and melatonin occasionally for sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver1986 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 2/13/2024 at 12:22 PM, peaceandlove said: And also idk if you already do this but I wear a mask when I go out just in case, since I have no control of what other people spray, smoke etc it helps somewhat. @Moe96 Always put your health first. It's not your responsibility if someone gets offended by seeing you wear an N95/N99. Our nervous systems are fried and have long-term ME/CFS symptoms because of 'Limbic Kindling'/Protracted Withdrawal. Or will recover from slow-tapering Withdrawal or 'Limbic Kindling'/Protracted Withdrawal **if you're lucky**. The last thing we need is to contract COVID-19 or anyone's ratchet-ass colds/flus ever again. Or breathe in exhaust, tire fumes, paint fumes, ciggie smoke fumes, etc. Quote I honestly have the same worries, I get hives and now worry that I have mcas. It’s so hard to know what is what. These Psychotropic drugs interract with Histamine all over your body. When you taper off, histmaine releases. beyondmeds.com talks about it, as does the thread by someone called "Seroquel Withdrawal: A Vacation in Hell". Try low-histamine eating, and see what happens. Or eat mostly animals (if you're not into animal body-autonomy/liberation like me). Or eat vegan. Or eat vegetarian. It depends on how much damage was done and how far along you are into recovery - if at all. Some people do well on consuming low-histamine before they shed their uterine lining, too. Or taking an anti-histamine during the 7'ish days before-hand helps with their PMS. Or if they have PMDD, they may be helped by consuming low-histamine during the luteal phase. It's entirely genetic. For a lot of people who are slowly tapering, their nervous systems are fried either temporarily or permanently and can't handle any supplements/caffeine/booze/etc. Supplements, etc tend to help or harm your nervous system/brain chemistry, which is already in chaos if the taper isn't REALLY slow. I read this stuff recently on here. 1 Current: #1: Before-bed: 50mg I.R. Seroquel (since July 2021 due to a horrific limbic system reaction to LoLoestrin.) #2: Before-bed: 50mg X.R. Seroquel (added in Nov 2022 at 3rd in-patient stay w/in 6 months because I was withdrawing so severely from a few unnecessary things at the same time) #3: 150mg Pristiq ($3/day. Raised during 1st Seroquel I.R. taper attempt (took off 1/4 of a pill because didn't know about liquid until I learned about it myself earlier this year) because nobody knew what to do. Didn't work. Had to go back up on Seroquel I.R. Recently learned by myself that they work on different Serotonins.) #4: 300mg AM + 300mg before-bed Gabapentin. During 2nd in-patient stay. Wanted to take just two doses of 100mg instead. But I was denied. #5: 50mg Lamictal (raised 2x within 1 week but went along with it because I was so unwell with withdrawal.) Past: Late 2021/2022: Abilify - anxiety. Lasted on it less than a week. Rexulti - suicidal ideation. Lasted on it less than a week. Latuda - at first, hypomanic. Soon thereafter: severe depressed, couldn't work/socialize, & wanted to drink. Sweat the bed the whole time. Horrific to come off of. Divalproex - 3 doses/day made me wonky/hypomanic. 4 doses/day made me anxious within days. Went back down to 3/day. Horrific to come off of. 2014-2017: Cipralex, Celexa, Zoloft, & the one that starts with an 'S': Anxiety, OCD, Intrusive thoughts, Diarhea (Zoloft), etc. Prozac: made me paranoid! Paxil: felt like I was on bath-salts! Cymbalta & Effexor: Irresponsibly Rx'ed too much. Flat (Cymbalta). High as a kite (Effexor). Appetite suppressed. Partial-insomnia. Sweat the bed. Almost numb body. Literally Constant Putrid Flatulence. Various Sexual side-effects. Wellbutrin: great energy, no pain, appetite suppressedn, felt like I had Autism within a few days of taking it. Had to stop. Asked for a way smaller dose, & he didn't get back to me. Pristiq since 2012 (besides when trying other Anti D's). Living with side-effects (ME/CFS, partial-insomnia sometimes, constant drippy-nose/snot to blow out.) Mid March 2024: attempt a 13th & final withdrawal from 50mg I.R. Seroquel (inconsistent constant myoclonus all over + inconsistent severe tranquilizing of my forearms, fingers, shins, & toes - since July 2021. Reduced greatly when 50mg X.R. had to be added in Nov 2022, but still disabling). But this time, I've learned by myself recently about a liquid taper. In-patient places + myself only tried a 1/4 pill reduction. It made me admit myself to the Hospital a few times. Nobody since July 2021 ever once mentioned a liquid. Shocking. Also recently learned more about Seroquel (H1 & D2) & Histamine action/tranquilizing. + A low-histamine diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke44 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Anyone deal with hypersensitivity worsening over time? In the sense of more foods/drugs/supplements becoming intolerable but also the severity and length of the reaction to those things. Which for me has been increased anxiety/panic, for an entire week or so. 1 -Wellbutrin xl: Summer 2014 to May 2022. 300mg -Hydroxyzine: Winter 2014 to July 2022. 100mg -Lexapro: 2015- April 2018. 20mg -Buspar: 2015- April 2022. 30mg 3x a day -Pristiq: April 2018- July 2022. 100mg -Clonidine: August 2018- July 2022. 0.1mg -Metoprolol er: August 2018- February 2024. 25mg -Gabapentin: October 2022- present. 300mg Buspar taper: March-April 2022. Wellbutrin taper: April-may 2022. Pristiq taper: May-late july 2022. Hydroxyzine & Clonidine taper: July 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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