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On 10/26/2023 at 3:22 PM, littlebird said:

Hey friend!!! I'm currently tapering it, it's a helluva drug. Also got the prescription for sleep issues. Currently close to half what I was taking and while sometimes I have sleep issues, I feel better in the mornings on lower doses. Has the insomnia been popping back up for you pretty often?

 

I was put on a new generic for this and the insomnia/nightmares came in hard again. Switched to brand name (3x the price, hard to source with my insurance) and started sleeping like a log. Couldn't source it this month, so about to switch back! Fingers crossed it's all right.

 

I think I might have to do some lower cuts, thinking I'll do less than 10% for the next one and then hold for a good while and work on some of the other drugs I'm on. Every time I cut Seroquel the side effects of the other meds I'm on get more intense, it's a complicated puzzle.

 

Hope this latest cut treats you all right! Good sign that you're sleeping well so far, hopefully that keeps up.

Hi! Thanks for taking the time to tell me your story. I agree, helluva drug.

 

The insomnia seems to creep up about 3 or 4 days after a cut, and last sometimes up to a week. I had a bit of trouble last night. I like the idea of trying name brand. Might be helpful.

 

I too feel better in the mornings as I get to lower doses. 300 mg a day was a killer. I felt like a zombie.

 

This message board keeps getting better and better. I'm not the only one with this crazy struggle..Good luck to you and don't be a stranger! I

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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33 minutes ago, Mittenraised said:

300 mg a day was a killer. I felt like a zombie.

Can't even imagine, that sounds rough. It's a zombifier for sure! Glad we're both doing better on a lower dose. Has the insomnia gotten any better? Switched to the new generic last night, fingers crossed this goes okay. Slept through the night, so far so good.

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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1 hour ago, littlebird said:

Can't even imagine, that sounds rough. It's a zombifier for sure! Glad we're both doing better on a lower dose. Has the insomnia gotten any better? 

It seems to wane off after a week or so, but is getting longer as I get to lower doses. I waited longer than 4 weeks on my last cut to level off. I'm trying to pay attention to what my body is telling me. Feralcatman told me slow is fast. I try to listen to the folks on here that have some experience with this crazy stuff.

 

I hope you get some rest! Good luck with that generic.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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This taper has been going OK. No significant sleep issues. I feel OK. Maybe a little "depressed", but overall I am thankful I'm not in the shape I was 12 months ago.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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The problems are similar as I struggle with tapering the same poison, though the trade name here is Ketipinor.  Before knowing this site, I already dropped the dosis from 100/200 to 25, by myself. Now, on the level of 13 mg, I really need any advise, and there is much to be read in this site.

 

When tapering max 10%, the worst withdrawal symptom is insomnia, just like you have been telling, too. These days, I sometimes have to wait an hour or more, before falling into sleep. And, this medicine makes me wake up about ten times each night. 

 

You mentioned, you feel dread. Every evening, after taking this medicine, in 30 minutes or so, my heart starts pounding. It is like a panic attack, a physical one; as I am totally calm, and have nothing to be afraid of. 

 

I find best to continue tapering 5-10% monthly. Sometimes I also need to stay longer at a certain level, hoping for the insomnia to pass by.

 

Good luck for you!

 

 

Medication

DHEA 12mg,Pregnenolone 50mg,Questran(Resincolestiramina)2x4g,Sel 3mg;Nebido 4ml every 9th week, Cohemin (B12) 1ml similarly. 

Supplements

Vitamin C, D, Zn, Mg, Mn, Omega3, L-Glutamine, L-Theanine, Taurine, Glysine, L-Lysine, Kreatine, Ashwagandha.

Antidepressants

 May 2020 - February 2022 - Agomelatine 50 mg (February  25 mg)
 From May 2020 till now Ketipinor (Quetiapine): 2020 200 mg,  2021 75 mg (Sept.100 mg), 2022 50 mg (Jul.-Oct. 75 mg)
 Jan.3, 2023 25 mg; Jan.20, 18 mg; Jan.31, 20 mg, Mar.22, 19 mg; May 13, 17.1 mg; Jun.18, 16 mg; Jul.14, 15 mg; Aug.10, 14.3 mg; Sep.13, 13.3 mg; Oct.13 12.5mg; Dec.12, 11.6 mg

Jan.10, 2024 10.6 mg; Feb.9, 9.6mg; Mar.5, 8.8 mg; Apr.3, 8.0 mg

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On 11/8/2023 at 3:59 AM, Jeppe said:

The problems are similar as I struggle with tapering the same poison, though the trade name here is Ketipinor.  Before knowing this site, I already dropped the dosis from 100/200 to 25, by myself. Now, on the level of 13 mg, I really need any advise, and there is much to be read in this site.

 

When tapering max 10%, the worst withdrawal symptom is insomnia, just like you have been telling, too. These days, I sometimes have to wait an hour or more, before falling into sleep. And, this medicine makes me wake up about ten times each night. 

 

You mentioned, you feel dread. Every evening, after taking this medicine, in 30 minutes or so, my heart starts pounding. It is like a panic attack, a physical one; as I am totally calm, and have nothing to be afraid of. 

 

I find best to continue tapering 5-10% monthly. Sometimes I also need to stay longer at a certain level, hoping for the insomnia to pass by.

 

Good luck for you!

 

 

Jeppe,

I'm with you on the insomnia. I too lay awake, waiting to sleep, and awaken more than I'd like. I do take magnesium, not sure if it helps but it sure can't hurt. Hang in there and get as much rest as you can.

 

How are you cutting at the lower doses? Water titration, or scales?

 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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On 10/27/2023 at 8:45 PM, Mittenraised said:

 

Dropped to 100mg two nights ago. Now I just take the XR until my next cut, which will be a jump. I'll have to do 50mg XR and 50mg IR and start tapering the IR. That change alone I'll consider a taper. Sleep is broken and light. Hopefully the later " insomnia" doesn't surface. 

 

I have to look at the positive side. I was on 300mg of XR daily, last November. Thank God for this site and you people here!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Mittenraised im looking for friends who have taken antipsychotics or are tapering them. Ive been on serequel before but am medication free right now except for whats still in my body. But other than that not looking to share any tips just to socialize with people that have had or are having the antipsychotic experience. My name is rainnforest but they wont let me change it from the silly name video game character i chose to stay anonymous on when i first joined the site bc i didnt know the place ( thank jesus im free from the video game nonsense i dont like them nowadays). 

https://friendsforpeers.angelfire.com/Index.html - my website and discord server

Zyprexa (not sure what mg) But got off after a month of being put on in hospital. early 2007 Respirodol (experienced ackathesia so got off in 4 - 6 months from a 6mg dose) Later 2007 tried Seroquel but got offbecause didn't like it.  Later 2007 tried Abilify but had ackathesia, got off2008 - 2015 Unmedicated but on Serequel 800mg when hospitalized   Later 2015 - Unmedicated but put on Prolixyn when hospitalized (Had very uncomfortable stiffness so got off immediately when out of hospital)2016 Unmedicated but put on Haldol when hospitalized (caused Seizures and stiffness couldn't lay down for 3 days until taken off) Later 2016Tried Zyprexa irregular dosesEarly 2017 Put on Zyprexa 15mg stayed on 15 mg until 2020 January 2020 Zyprexa 15mg didn't seem to be working so increased to Zyprexa 20mgOctober - December 2020 Reduced Zyprexa from 20 mg to 15mg to 10mg to 7.5mg to 5mg to 2.5mg. Hospitalized January 1st 2021March 2021 15mg Zyprexa April 12.5mg Zyprexa  May, June and July 10mg Zyprexa, August 7.5mg Zyprexa, September 1st toOctober 23th 2021 5mg Zyprexa.  October 23rd - December 13th 3.75mg Zyprexa December 13th - January 12th 3.1mg Zyprexa HOSPITALIZED FOR 4.5 MONTHS put on 10mg then 15mg then 20mg of Zyprexa (Givenlong acting injection of Thorazine as well).  May 23rd 2022 Reduced from 20mg to 17.5mg Zyprexa, June 9th 15mg started nighttime. April 2023 taken off Zyprexa cold turkey and put on two monthly injections of Invega Sustena.

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Hi, M. and thanks for asking 

 

>> How are you cutting at the lower doses? Water titration, or scales?

 

I have been cutting the pills and weighing them. Now, I am staying on the level 12.5 mg for a while, and, the pharmacy makes this  strength for me. I presume that in the end the titration method will be a must.

 

I am glad for you that you succeeded in dropping. If only we got more sleep :-)

 

Medication

DHEA 12mg,Pregnenolone 50mg,Questran(Resincolestiramina)2x4g,Sel 3mg;Nebido 4ml every 9th week, Cohemin (B12) 1ml similarly. 

Supplements

Vitamin C, D, Zn, Mg, Mn, Omega3, L-Glutamine, L-Theanine, Taurine, Glysine, L-Lysine, Kreatine, Ashwagandha.

Antidepressants

 May 2020 - February 2022 - Agomelatine 50 mg (February  25 mg)
 From May 2020 till now Ketipinor (Quetiapine): 2020 200 mg,  2021 75 mg (Sept.100 mg), 2022 50 mg (Jul.-Oct. 75 mg)
 Jan.3, 2023 25 mg; Jan.20, 18 mg; Jan.31, 20 mg, Mar.22, 19 mg; May 13, 17.1 mg; Jun.18, 16 mg; Jul.14, 15 mg; Aug.10, 14.3 mg; Sep.13, 13.3 mg; Oct.13 12.5mg; Dec.12, 11.6 mg

Jan.10, 2024 10.6 mg; Feb.9, 9.6mg; Mar.5, 8.8 mg; Apr.3, 8.0 mg

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On 11/22/2023 at 9:09 PM, guile2 said:

Mittenraised im looking for friends who have taken antipsychotics or are tapering them. Ive been on serequel before but am medication free right now except for whats still in my body. But other than that not looking to share any tips just to socialize with people that have had or are having the antipsychotic experience. My name is rainnforest but they wont let me change it from the silly name video game character i chose to stay anonymous on when i first joined the site bc i didnt know the place ( thank jesus im free from the video game nonsense i dont like them nowadays). 

Keep me posted on your progress. Getting off these drugs is work, but in the end will be a better life. 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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27 minutes ago, Jeppe said:

Hi, M. and thanks for asking 

 

>> How are you cutting at the lower doses? Water titration, or scales?

 

I have been cutting the pills and weighing them. Now, I am staying on the level 12.5 mg for a while, and, the pharmacy makes this  strength for me. I presume that in the end the titration method will be a must.

 

I am glad for you that you succeeded in dropping. If only we got more sleep 🙂

 

Sleep is paramount. I'm thankful for the few weeks after a taper that I can sneak in 6 or 7 hours uninterrupted. Thanks for the reply. 

 

 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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I changed from 100 mg of XR to 50 mg XR and 50 mg of IR, to prepare for my next taper since cutting extended release pills is less than ideal. It has left me dead tired in the afternoon. Like a crash from caffeine, but much more pronounced. I'll stick around here for a bit to let things level off and shake out. This is the third day. Sleeping ok, just really tired and no energy in the morning. 

 

How have you others dealt with the extended to immediate change? Did it take long to get back in tune? 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Tapered 12.5%. I need to get the measuring tools for water taper so I can be more precise on cutting. So far I'm sleeping OK. Tonight will be night three, thats usually when the insomnia creeps in.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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@Mittenraised Hi! We're pretty much in the same boat right now. I'm at 75 MG IR from original dose of 100 MG back from November 1st was the start of my taper. Let's keep in touch.  So far so good besides some neck stiffness. Have you experienced this at all?  Still sleeping 8 hrs which I am grateful for. Patience is the hardest part of it all. Wishing each other a smooth journey this year.

August 4, 2023 to September 7, 2023 5 to 10 mg Ambien per night, 1 mg Ativan as needed. Estimated 1 every other day.

September 7, 2023 100 MG Seroquel -> November 1, 2023 87.5 MG -> Dec 1, 2023 82 MG -> Dec 21, 2023 75 MG -> January 12, 2023 70 MG 

 

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On 1/2/2024 at 2:30 PM, Ottergirl said:

@Mittenraised Hi! We're pretty much in the same boat right now. I'm at 75 MG IR from original dose of 100 MG back from November 1st was the start of my taper. Let's keep in touch.  So far so good besides some neck stiffness. Have you experienced this at all?  Still sleeping 8 hrs which I am grateful for. Patience is the hardest part of it all. Wishing each other a smooth journey this year.

Hi! Welcome. Yes, I too suffer from the neck issue. I wasn't sure if it was drug related, but it makes sense. Take your time, this stuff can be nasty to get off. I have had some insomnia, with every cut. Hopefully, you don't have those issue. Your in the right place! 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Well I had to bump back up a bit. 6% taper for now is all I can handle. It's certainly better than nothing.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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1 hour ago, Mittenraised said:

Well I had to bump back up a bit. 6% taper for now is all I can handle. It's certainly better than nothing.

 

Yes, it is and it's a good sign that you recognize what you can handle for drops. Sometimes the 10% drop is too much.

 

Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, CitalopramSertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda

Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg). Jan 14, 2023 -> Began transition to liquid suspension. Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Feb 12, 2023 = 2.25mg -> Feb 27, 2023 = 2.14mg -> Mar 12, 2023 = 2.025mg -> Mar 27, 2023 = 1.93mg -> Apr 10, 2023 = 1.82mg -> Apr 23, 2023 = 1.74mg -> May 7, 2023 = 1.64mg -> May 21, 2023 = 1.56mg -> June 4, 2023 = 1.48mg -> June 19, 2023 = 1.4mg -> July 2, 2023 = 1.33mg -> July 16, 2023 = 1.26mg -> July 31, 2023 = 1.2mg -> Aug 13, 2023 = 1.14mg -> Aug 27, 2023 = 1.08mg -> Sep 13, 2023 = 1.02mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Feb 4, 2024 = 0.92mg -> Feb 19, 2024 = 0.87mg -> Mar 3, 2024 = 0.83mg -> Mar 17, 2024 = 0.78mg -> Mar 31, 2024 = 0.74mg -> Apr 14, 2024 = 0.7mg -> Apr 28, 2024 = 0.66mg

Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022.

Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day -> Oct 1, 2023 = 570mg -> Oct 15, 2023 = 540mg -> Oct 29, 2023 = 510mg -> Nov 13, 2023 = 484mg -> Nov 27, 2023 = 460mg -> Dec 9, 2023 = 436mg -> Dec 24, 2023 = 414mg -> Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg

 

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6 hours ago, FireflyFyte said:

 

Yes, it is and it's a good sign that you recognize what you can handle for drops. Sometimes the 10% drop is too much.

@FireflyFyte, after crashing from a fast taper Christmas of 2022, I never want to go through that again. If my body starts telling me something I'm not gonna wait or "tough it out". That's the beauty of this forum, you learn from others. Blessed to be here. Stay healthy!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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On 1/4/2024 at 11:49 AM, FireflyFyte said:

 

Yes, it is and it's a good sign that you recognize what you can handle for drops. Sometimes the 10% drop is too much.

@FireflyFyte, after crashing from a fast taper Christmas of 2022, I never want to go through that again. If my body starts telling me something I'm not gonna wait or "tough it out". That's the beauty of this forum, you learn from others. Blessed to be here. Stay healthy!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Holding at the 6% cut with insomnia and anxiety. I am sleeping, just hard to get to sleep and stay asleep. The last few tapers did not include anxiety. It's a weird feeling. It turns me into an introverted hermit. Still have the 5 day 40hr work grind to contend with...

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Early waking is the newest thing to contend with. Getting about 6 hours of sleep. I sure can't complain, it could be worse. 

 

I'm wondering if I should switch to all IR type medication, instead of 50 XR and 43.75 IR. I certainly wouldn't do it while I'm in the middle of this taper, but was giving it thought when I leveled off. Anyone with Extended to Immediate Release change history or opinion?

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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The most recent 6% taper has come full circle. I'm back to sleeping well. It took 10 full days this time. 

 

Any recommendations on going from XR to IR type medication?

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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4 hours ago, Mittenraised said:

Any recommendations on going from XR to IR type medication?

 

Generally speaking, when switching from XR to IR you need to add a dosage so instead of taking the XR once a day you would take the IR at least twice a day. When transitioning, I would hold the dose at IR level for a few weeks to ensure that you adjust well before resuming a taper.

 

Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, CitalopramSertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda

Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg). Jan 14, 2023 -> Began transition to liquid suspension. Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Feb 12, 2023 = 2.25mg -> Feb 27, 2023 = 2.14mg -> Mar 12, 2023 = 2.025mg -> Mar 27, 2023 = 1.93mg -> Apr 10, 2023 = 1.82mg -> Apr 23, 2023 = 1.74mg -> May 7, 2023 = 1.64mg -> May 21, 2023 = 1.56mg -> June 4, 2023 = 1.48mg -> June 19, 2023 = 1.4mg -> July 2, 2023 = 1.33mg -> July 16, 2023 = 1.26mg -> July 31, 2023 = 1.2mg -> Aug 13, 2023 = 1.14mg -> Aug 27, 2023 = 1.08mg -> Sep 13, 2023 = 1.02mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Feb 4, 2024 = 0.92mg -> Feb 19, 2024 = 0.87mg -> Mar 3, 2024 = 0.83mg -> Mar 17, 2024 = 0.78mg -> Mar 31, 2024 = 0.74mg -> Apr 14, 2024 = 0.7mg -> Apr 28, 2024 = 0.66mg

Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022.

Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day -> Oct 1, 2023 = 570mg -> Oct 15, 2023 = 540mg -> Oct 29, 2023 = 510mg -> Nov 13, 2023 = 484mg -> Nov 27, 2023 = 460mg -> Dec 9, 2023 = 436mg -> Dec 24, 2023 = 414mg -> Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg

 

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I decided to try the Brass Monkey Slide method to minimize the symptoms from a 10% reduction. I cut 2.5% each week, I am currently on the second week and reduced another 2.5% two days ago. So far so good, very little in the way of body interruption. I think I will continue this format.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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So far, so good. This may be an easier process. Takes a bit longer but I'd rather go slow and have less pain and life interruption. It's natural to want to race to the finish line. Learning patience through this life lesson.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Ugh. Tapered 4.6 mg a week ago. All was good for 6 days, insomnia strikes again. It makes working tough... this process can wear you down, especially mentally.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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16 hours ago, Mittenraised said:

Ugh. Tapered 4.6 mg a week ago. All was good for 6 days, insomnia strikes again. It makes working tough... this process can wear you down, especially mentally.

 

I am sorry to hear that you are dealing with insomnia. Sadly, it is common during tapering but hope that it passes quickly for you.

 

Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, CitalopramSertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda

Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg). Jan 14, 2023 -> Began transition to liquid suspension. Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Feb 12, 2023 = 2.25mg -> Feb 27, 2023 = 2.14mg -> Mar 12, 2023 = 2.025mg -> Mar 27, 2023 = 1.93mg -> Apr 10, 2023 = 1.82mg -> Apr 23, 2023 = 1.74mg -> May 7, 2023 = 1.64mg -> May 21, 2023 = 1.56mg -> June 4, 2023 = 1.48mg -> June 19, 2023 = 1.4mg -> July 2, 2023 = 1.33mg -> July 16, 2023 = 1.26mg -> July 31, 2023 = 1.2mg -> Aug 13, 2023 = 1.14mg -> Aug 27, 2023 = 1.08mg -> Sep 13, 2023 = 1.02mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Feb 4, 2024 = 0.92mg -> Feb 19, 2024 = 0.87mg -> Mar 3, 2024 = 0.83mg -> Mar 17, 2024 = 0.78mg -> Mar 31, 2024 = 0.74mg -> Apr 14, 2024 = 0.7mg -> Apr 28, 2024 = 0.66mg

Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022.

Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day -> Oct 1, 2023 = 570mg -> Oct 15, 2023 = 540mg -> Oct 29, 2023 = 510mg -> Nov 13, 2023 = 484mg -> Nov 27, 2023 = 460mg -> Dec 9, 2023 = 436mg -> Dec 24, 2023 = 414mg -> Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg

 

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@@FireflyFyte, thanks. I guess I am on a wave right now. I should be thankful, I have had several weeks of somewhat "comfortable" tapering, or windows. 

 

I'm getting to the point where I am dreaming, almost like my brain activity has increased. Not so drugged feeling. I have to remember it takes time to heal and not rush things.

 

Take care!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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It will ultimately get better I can promise you that 😉✌️😻😻😻

Current Psychiatric Medications

  1. Paxil 10mg daily (a.m.) 2017 - Present
  2. Carbamazepine IR  190 mg twice daily (380mg Daily) 2011 - Present (Currently Tapering)

Past Psychiatric Medications From 1994 to August 2021   Seroquel (in Recovery since August 2021 final dose 6.25mg), Depakote, Lithium, Risperidone, Xanax, Lamotrigene, Olanzapine, Lorazepam, Welbutrin, Trazodone, Oxazepam, Gabapentin, Abilify, Topiramate, Prazosin, Ambien (See Attached Spreadsheet And Seroquel Tapering And WIthdrawal Summary)

Current Non Psychiatric Medications Levothyroxine 88mcg (a.m.)-Vitamin D3 1000 IU (p.m.)-Fexofenadine 180 mg twice daily -Clonidine 0.1 mg (p.m.)-Azelastine Nasal Spray

Other - Fish Oil Twice Daily-Multi-Vitamin (a.m.)-Vitamin C 1000mg Daily (a.m.)-Saline Nasal Spray-Salsalate 750mg twice daily PRN, Diclofenac Gel on affected joint PRN-Magnesium Citrate 250mg twice daily, Betaine HCL & Digestine Enzymes With Meals

Quitting Seroquel_A Vacation In Hell_Redacted.pdf

Other Documents https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/26099-feralcatman-recovering-from-seroquel/?do=findComment&comment=633907

 

 

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1 hour ago, FeralCatman said:

It will ultimately get better I can promise you that 😉✌️😻😻😻

I am looking forward to that. I hope things are tolerable for you and your new taper. 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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Hi Mittenraised, I've just read your thread. I've just been looking for other people dealing with sleep problems while tapering. I'm also tapering an AP, and I was sleeping fine, but I didn't pay enough attention to symptoms I guess and pushed through and BAM!!! NO SLEEP!!! ... among other uncomfortables ... didn't do too bad last night though so I'm hoping that continues. I'm also thinking about trying the Brass Monkey, or modifying it somewhat. Anyway, wish you luck in the future, you've done great so far.

Olanzapine (5mg) started June 2023 - This is the only drug I'm currently taking, haven't used any other psych drugs.

After 4 weeks dropped to 2.5mg for 5 days then dropped to 1.25mg for 3 days, withdrawals commenced. I then took a single dose of 3.75mg. Then went to 2.5mg. since July 19

Hoping to hold at 2.5mg  and GODWILLING I will STABILIZE.

I can't tell WD symptoms from Long Covid symptoms. I think a bit of both, and I think my quick earlier taper has made the LC symptoms worse ... what to do.

Update: Sept 28 2023: -2.5%   Oct 5: -2.5%   Oct 12: -2.5%   Oct 19: -5%   Oct 29: -5%   Nov 10: -5%  2.0mg  Nov 20:  -5%  1.9mg  Nov 30:  -5%  1.8mg  Dec 12:  1.75mg   Dec 22: 1.70mg

Dec 29: 1.65mg Jan 06/24: 1.60mg  Jan 14: 1.55mg Jan 25: 1.50mg   Feb 12: Updose to 1.55mg    Apr 25: 1.50mg

(percentage drops are from previous dose)

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Hi Mitten,

 

I am writing because I CT'd Seroquel back in the day, it was hell and I didn't know what I was doing. I went on more drugs because of that and wish I had done it your way. I wanted to write to you to keep going in case you ever feel like taking a shortcut off the taper/drugs, you are going at a good pace, and I will be rooting for ya when you come towards the finish line. You look like you are heading towards the finish line already. 

 

Keep going. 

 

Ryder. 

2008-2012: Cymbalta, Zyprexa, Valium (5 days supply),

2012 - Seroquel x 4 weeks C/T. 

2014 - Seroquel x 2 Weeks C/T. Crossed to Risperidone 3mg for 6months until December.

2014 - Stopped Risperidone. Xfer > Anti-Depressant 200mg Zoloft and 6mg Clonazepam. 

2018 - 150mg Clomipromine changed Anti-depressant. Tapered Benzo to 1mg Clonazepam. 2019 - xfer to 20mg Diazepam. 

 

Currently:

Anafranil: 75mg. 17th Dec 2022 70mg. 27th Dec 22: 75mg, 14 January 23': 70mg. 16-26th January: 50mg (too fast drop no sleep). Jan 28th 2023: 70mg. 20 Feb 2023: 65mg. 11/06: 60mg 9/08: 55mg 15/08/23 : 50mg
3/03/2024: 60mg (Updose) 25/04: 57.5mg

 

        Diazepam (V): 25th Oct 2019' 20mg. 22 Dec 19' 19mg. 04 Apr 2020' 18mg,  30 September 20' 17.5mg , 13 Nov 2020' 17mg. 01 January 2021: 16mg, 13th Aug 21' 15mg. 1st Nov' 2021 14.5mg. 1st Dec' 2021 14mg. 13 January 2022: 13.5mg, 11 Feb: 13mg.  11 April 22' 12.5mg, 12 May 22': 12mg, 6th September 2022: 11mg Valium. 9th October: 10.5mg, 25th Oct 10mg. 12 March 23: 9.5mg 2 April: 9.25mg 23 April: 9mg 12/05: 8.75 26/05: 8.5 12/09: 8.25 21/09: 8.5. 3/10: 8.25 17/10: 8mg 20th Nov Brassmonkey: (7.9.,7.8, 7.75) 5 Feb: 7.25mg. 23 Feb: 7mg 

*.      Have tried to go at faster rate than 0.5mg but is currently too fast. 

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Hi Mittenraised, I've just read your thread. I've just been looking for other people dealing with sleep problems while tapering. I'm also tapering an AP, and I was sleeping fine, but I didn't pay enough attention to symptoms I guess and pushed through and BAM!!! NO SLEEP!!! ... among other uncomfortables ... didn't do too bad last night though so I'm hoping that continues. I'm also thinking about trying the Brass Monkey, or modifying it somewhat. Anyway, wish you luck in the future, you've done great so far.

@N2deep, I went too fast myself in the beginning. I am really trying to go as slow and steady as possible to avoid injuring myself. Sometimes the symptoms show up right away, or they take a bit to creep in. Insomnia being the worst one for me. It really affects me mentally and physically. 

 

Good luck to you and thanks for stopping by. I will try to follow your progress, I find it inspiring and comforting to know I'm not the only one going through this crazy unfortunate ordeal.

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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1 hour ago, Ryder said:

Hi Mitten,

 

I am writing because I CT'd Seroquel back in the day, it was hell and I didn't know what I was doing. I went on more drugs because of that and wish I had done it your way. I wanted to write to you to keep going in case you ever feel like taking a shortcut off the taper/drugs, you are going at a good pace, and I will be rooting for ya when you come towards the finish line. You look like you are heading towards the finish line already. 

 

Keep going. 

 

Ryder. 

@RyderThanks for the encouragement! I can't imagine CT. I tried to taper from 300 mg to zero in a month, it was disaster. I think I really injured myself, it took a few moths to level off. 

 

If I wouldn't have found this site I'd be lost. Doctors gaslight and don't have a clue. Top it off with the pharmaceutical agenda it leaves us normal folk high and dry and drugged too the moon.

 

Take care and best of luck to you!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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I have been having asthma and breathing issues for the last few days. I attribute this to a histamine uptick, or unregulated system. I had asthma as a child but haven't suffered anything like this for a few months. (Except when I fast tapered in Dec.2022 and crashed and burned)

 

I hope it levels off. I have benadryl if I need to push it back some.

 

 

 

 

On 2/15/2024 at 3:21 PM, Ryder said:

Hi Mitten,

 

I am writing because I CT'd Seroquel back in the day, it was hell and I didn't know what I was doing. I went on more drugs because of that and wish I had done it your way. I wanted to write to you to keep going in case you ever feel like taking a shortcut off the taper/drugs, you are going at a good pace, and I will be rooting for ya when you come towards the finish line. You look like you are heading towards the finish line already. 

 

Keep going. 

 

Ryder. 

@RyderThanks for the encouragement! I can't imagine CT. I tried to taper from 300 mg to zero in a month, it was disaster. I think I really injured myself, it took a few moths to level off. 

 

If I wouldn't have found this site I'd be lost. Doctors gaslight and don't have a clue. Top it off with the pharmaceutical agenda it leaves us normal folk high and dry and drugged too the moon.

 

Take care and best of luck to you!

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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The wave seems gone, for now. I got some decent rest the past two nights. The simple things are the big ones when life is rough. I appreciate the sleep and need to remind myself to be grateful for every minute. 

Dropped 10% to 225mg-2/3/22. 200mg XR 2/19/23, 180 XRmg 3/20/23, 162 XRmg 4/25/23, 150 XR 5/25/23, 7/31/23 137.5mg XR & IR, 9/4/23 125mg (100mg XR,25mg IR)  9/21/23, (100mg XR, 12.5mg IR) 10/28/23, (100mg XR) 11/19/23, (50mg XR, 50mg IR) 12/8/23, (50mg XR, 42mg IR) 1/1/24, 82.8mg 2/7/24, 75mg 2/22/24, 66.5mg 2/20/24.

Supplements- Magnesium Glycinate 420mg, 1000mg fish oil twice daily, 268.5 vitamin E.

 

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