ashleydoll87 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I began taking meds in the Spring of 2008 at the age of 20. I was suicidal, probably because I was abusing pills and alcohol. I was officially diagnosed with "mood disorder, not otherwise specified" and had to deal with social anxiety issues as well. I continued regular and escalating substance abuse until August 2009, when I tried to kill myself and really seriously almost died. When I woke up in the hospital, I had an epiphane--I knew I was being given a second chance by God and that I had more to accomplish before I left this life. Fast-forward to Spring 2013...I finally have a job that pays all my bills, I'm stable, and I leave my crazy boyfriend. I'm kind of starting over and I decide to get off my meds because I no longer think I need them, I read about the long-term health effects, and become interested in natural therapies, supplements, and healthy eating. I first tried to stop taking Lamictal in July without help from my doctor. (I lost my insurance over a year ago, so I went to county health where they bounced me between several doctors, none of whom have taken the time to get to know me.) Knowing that all drugs have withdrawal effects, I cut up my pills and reduced from 300mg of Lamictal to 0mg over the period of a month. HORRIBLE!!! I thought I was going crazy, and it took a good friend's Google search for me to find out that I was having intense and debilitating withdrawal effects. To further prove it was indeed withdrawal, just a few hours after taking my normal dose I was feeling WAY BETTER. I knew I needed a better plan... <3 Ashley PAST: Lamictal 300mg, Wellbutrin SR 300mg, Celexa 40mg, Prozac 40mg, abuse of Xanax & various painkillers PRESENT: Lamictal 225mg, Wellbutrin SR 200mg, Celexa 10mg, QuietMinds supplement, Prevagen supplement, Omega-3 EPA 3g, Holy Basil Leaf extract FUTURE: NO Rx, supplements only
Moderator Emeritus Rhiannon Posted September 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Posted September 16, 2013 Hi Ashley. Unfortunately willpower and supplements don't help much with med withdrawal. The meds cause our brains to remodel themselves and then they are dependent on the chemistry from the meds--like a plant that has grown in and around a trellis. You can't yank out the trellis; you have to snip it out bit by bit and allow the plant time to regrow in its natural form. You were started on the meds young, before your brain was mature, so it's a good idea to be extra careful with tapering until you see how quickly your CNS can heal. Fortunately, younger brains seem to heal faster, so you have that in your favor. You did taper, which was wise, but you tapered much much faster than usually works for people. We generally recommend no more than 10% of your current dose every month or so. We also generally recommend tapering only one med at a time. You can work on one for a while then switch and bring another one down for a while, if you'd like to do it that way. A few people do succeed at tapering multiple meds at the same time, but that requires going even more slowly. If you taper slowly and take care of yourself, you can get off all your meds, but given what you're on and your history, you should probably wrap your mind around this being a long-term project. Please read your way around the forum for a few days. There's lots of information, wisdom, and friendly support to be had here. Welcome! Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010. Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea. Feb 15 2010: 300 mg Neurontin 200 Lamictal 10 Celexa 0.65 Xanax and 5 mg Ambien Feb 10 2014: 62 Lamictal 1.1 Celexa 0.135 Xanax 1.8 Valium Feb 10 2015: 50 Lamictal 0.875 Celexa 0.11 Xanax 1.5 Valium Feb 15 2016: 47.5 Lamictal 0.75 Celexa 0.0875 Xanax 1.42 Valium 2/12/20 12 0.045 0.007 1 May 2021 7 0.01 0.0037 1 Feb 2022 6 0!!! 0.00167 0.98 2.5 mg Ambien Oct 2022 4.5 mg Lamictal (off Celexa, off Xanax) 0.95 Valium Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.
Moderator Emeritus Rhiannon Posted September 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Posted September 16, 2013 Also, congratulations on the tapering you've done so far! Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010. Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea. Feb 15 2010: 300 mg Neurontin 200 Lamictal 10 Celexa 0.65 Xanax and 5 mg Ambien Feb 10 2014: 62 Lamictal 1.1 Celexa 0.135 Xanax 1.8 Valium Feb 10 2015: 50 Lamictal 0.875 Celexa 0.11 Xanax 1.5 Valium Feb 15 2016: 47.5 Lamictal 0.75 Celexa 0.0875 Xanax 1.42 Valium 2/12/20 12 0.045 0.007 1 May 2021 7 0.01 0.0037 1 Feb 2022 6 0!!! 0.00167 0.98 2.5 mg Ambien Oct 2022 4.5 mg Lamictal (off Celexa, off Xanax) 0.95 Valium Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted September 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Posted September 16, 2013 Hi Ashley, Welcome to our community, I'm glad you found us. I agree with everything Rhi wrote and would like to add, congratulations on becoming financially stable, leaving a bad relationship and generally improving the quality of your life, those are huge achievements. Now you have found this site, over time, you will be able to come off your meds safely with fewer withdrawal effects. It seems that you have decided to taper off Lamictal first, here is our link to Tips for tapering off Lamictal: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1122-tips-for-tapering-off-lamictal-lamotrigine/ If you have any questions or concerns, or just need some friendly support, don't hesitate to post. Petu. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted September 21, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Posted September 21, 2013 Hi Ashley, just seen your post and wondering how you are doing? I admire you for turning things around and freeing yourself of the things that were harmful for you and hope you are doing well. It's a long road getting off meds, if only it was as easy as we'd all like it to be, wake up one day, throw them all away and get on with life..............would be brilliant! A lot of us have tried it and learned the hard way that it isn't that easy but thankfully found this site and managed to get on a slow taper. Good to have you with us. **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible
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