luv2knit Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Awesome update, WT! Praying those windows keep coming, and get longer and more frequent!! You so deserve a break!! XOXO Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ah, thank you luv! I very much wish the same for you xox The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
AliG Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Win. I'm so happy for you. It does seem that time " works it's magic". We just have to hang in long enough , to reap the rewards. This, truly is a game of patience. Hugs, Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
direstraits Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 so happy for you! hope this is just the beginning of better things to come! hugs,ds xoxo went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Thanks AliG and Direstraits! Yes, this is a game of patience and we ARE going to read the rewards in the end. It will all be so worth it. So sorry for not writing on anyone's threads at the moment. I am thinking of you all, though, and wishing you healing. Xx The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted January 19, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 19, 2016 This is so beautiful to read! That word windowish sounds wonderful And the fact that you didn't do anything to bring them about and the suddenness of surprise...just wow. This gives a lot of strength and hope to all of us and you too of course:) Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ah, thanks for your lovely post, bubble :-) I really appreciate it. Sending healing thoughts x The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yay so happy to hear of your window! 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thank you love and light. Sending you a big hug xxx The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
LexAnger Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 You are so strong and positive, winning! Sending my admiration and wishes for more healing! Lex Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Ah thanks lex! Thinking of you! Xx The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Trigger warning. This is not a positive post! I've come here to vent. After writing of that day of mini windows in January, I've been in one almighty, massive, horrific wave. It's been one of the worst waves I've ever had. I don't like to be dramatic and I'm sorry if this comes across as dramatic but really, I'm rather spent. I've been getting symptoms on and off that I haven't had for so long. Just about everything's slamming me right now. It's ridiculous. Evenings are my worst time. I quite often hear of people feeling better in the evenings but for me, it's the other way round. In the evenings, I go from hell to the ninth circle of hell. I now live with all over pain too and I didn't have pain when I started going through this. There is barely a single part of my body that isn't in agonising pain. Never a day goes by when I'm not in pain. I'm unable to be on the ipad long or do anything that involves bending my head down even slightly because it triggers migraines if I do it for very long. Which means that all the things I used to do to get me through this and keep me occupied, I can't do anymore. When I get migraines, all my symptoms get worse. I also have a frozen shoulder. I forced myself to go to a physiotherapist appointment and he said I don't have fibromyalgia. That's one good thing at least. He said it was stress and tension from this experience. The physical pain is not as bad as the mental horror but I could definitely do without having that on top of the akathisia, the mental horror and the wonderful box of neurological symptoms I live with. I've often read that when people start having windows, they get more of them and better windows and that the waves get shorter and less intense. Again, that doesn't seem to be the case for me. I might get a few hours of being a bit windowy every few months and in between, get tsunamis, with this one being one of my worst. Perhaps this is one of those mega waves that people get right before real healing occurs. I really really hope so. Tired of gripping on to my surfboard. I'm sorry this is such a negative, depressing post. I try not to do this but I'm really, really spent as so many of us are. I hope next time I do an update, it will be a positive one. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 7, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 7, 2016 Hi WinningThrough, Sorry to hear that you are in such a bad way at the moment. However, don't feel bad about posting about it. If you can't do it here, where can you do it. At least you know that the people here do understand and do care. And maybe having a rant will get some stress out of your body and brain. Take care. CC * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
LexAnger Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Winning, So sorry for the bad wave! It's heartbreaking to get hit like this after eventually you saw some lights in a nice window. But always be reminded that you ar 2 years free from all the poison and each wave you survive make one less wave in future and brings you closer to the full recovery no more waves forever! Lots hugs Lex Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hugs Winning! Don't worry about venting you've certainly earned the right to it! I also didn't fit the standard pattern of windows and waves once I c/t'd Celexa, I had one a year for the first three years (while on drugs that were causing me a problem). They'd always happen in the winter. So I'd get one day where I felt better but not totally healed, then, next day, same as it ever was. Of course over that period some of the more minor stuff did heal, but, the worst aspects just kept on when the window would close. Then around year three bit by bit I started to see sustained improvements in the worst aspects. I could still get waves of some problems but not akathisia thankfully, or dissociation, and my memory at one point improved quite a lot too. I suspect the fact I didn't fit the usual pattern had something to do with having adverse reactions instead of "just" withdrawal. And I'm so sorry to read you now have pain as well, I feel for you lately I've been having bad headaches as well partly to do with computer use. That's all you really need! Sending wishes for sustained healing, US I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
luv2knit Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 WT--I am so sorry for your mega wave, and I am so hoping that real healing is right around the corner for you! You have earned it--and you have also certainly earned the right to vent!! XOXO Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted March 8, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 8, 2016 Dear Winning, You don't sound depressing. You sound brave! Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 ChessieCat, thanks for your support and understanding. It means a lot. Lex anger. Thanks for your encouraging words. You're right, I'm getting further and further away from the drugs. I'm around 20/21 months off my last drugs. Unfolding, thank you for your kind words. I think you're right about adverse reactions. I have to remember it had some pretty major adverse reactions to all my drugs and I'm in withdrawal as well. And I came off a cocktail all at the same kind of time, an SSRI, a benzo and an antipsychotic, some I'm bound to be very bad. I know how bad you were and you had a lot of similar things to me and you're doing a lot better now than you were. Luv,thank you. I wonder how you're doing these days. I hope you're getting some relief. Bubble, thank you for saying I'm brave! That means a lot to me. Thank you. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
AliG Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I'm so sorry that you're struggling. This will turn around at some point. Hang in there. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
direstraits Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hi,winning....just wanted to say how sorry I am that you;re suffering so much right now....you're not alone...I've gone downhill after thinking I was coming out of this in Jan. ...we're about the same time off....let's hope we're about to see the end of this misery and be healed...wishing you all the best! love, ds xoxo went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Thanks AliG. Thinking of you. Than is direstraits. I'm so sorry you've been hit hard too. I hope it improves for you soon. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
lundeliz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How are you doing now Winning Through? I've wanted to respond to this post, because I've had a similar experience. I hit a severe wave in October at 22 months off, with return of old symptoms and some new and scary symptoms. I've had some windowy days, then go right back into this horrifying wave. It seems from other's comments, that maybe this is not so uncommon. Also, the evenings are the worst time of day for me too. My symptoms ramp up through the afternoon, then hit a peak in the evening. I'm just trying to hold on and hope this starts to level off soon. Hopefully it means we are doing some real healing. Wishing you the best, and hope you are getting some relief. 2006-Cymbalta 60mg for lyme disease2009-Quit Cymbalta c/tFeb. 2010-Reinstated 60mg CymMar.2010 to May.2012 tapered Cym to 36mgMay 2012-Crossed over to 30mg CelexaMay 2012-Oct.2013 Tapered Celexa down to 2.5mgOct.2013-Switched to 30 beads CymbaltaDec.4,2013-Stopped Cymbalta at 17 beads<p>Akathisia hit at 6 wks off and continuesNow taking melatonin when needed for sleep. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 How are you doing now Winning Through? I've wanted to respond to thispost, because I've had a similar experience. I hit a severe wave inOctober at 22 months off, with return of old symptoms and some new andscary symptoms. I've had some windowy days, then go right back into thishorrifying wave. It seems from other's comments, that maybe this is not souncommon. Also, the evenings are the worst time of day for me too.My symptoms ramp up through the afternoon, then hit a peak in the evening.I'm just trying to hold on and hope this starts to level off soon. Hopefullyit means we are doing some real healing. Wishing you the best, and hope youare getting some relief. Hi lundeliz. I'm sorry to hear you are also in a dreadful wave. I have heard that things can get particularly intense right before major healing so maybe we will get a big window at the end. I've been hit with another flu bug and have a chest infection, temperature and chills. I feel really sick too. Since October I've spent more time having viruses than not having them. I hope to goodness I don't need antibiotic because I can't take them. Anyway, I hope you get some healing soon. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm just wondering, does anyone know of any good natural antibiotics for strep throat? I don't know for certain if it's caused by strep, I will need to have a swab test to find out, but swallowing is agony and like swallowing glass. I've caught something nasty. It may be viral rather than bacterial in which case antibiotics wouldn't help anyway. I hope it's viral. Last Friday, I started to get nausea and had problems standing up from the dizziness in a different way from normal withdrawal. I had nausea for a few days and got chills. The chills got really bad and I was shivering all the time. I had a slight temperature. I felt a bit delerious. My chest seemed infected and my skin was really sore and nervy. Yesterday, the nausea, chills and temperature got better but then the severe throat pain started. I'd had a sore throat already but now it's really bad. I can hardly swallow. Today, I'm starting to feel shivery and nauseous again and worse than before. I will only know if it's strep by getting a swab test. I've read that it's dangerous to leave strep untreated. I'm terrified of antibiotics given how badly I react to them. It was antibiotics that started this mess as I got akathisia on them. I've been living with akathisia for 2.5 years and staying drug free to recover from it and don't want to put myself right back to the start again. That would be a nightmare. So if anyone knows of any natural remedies that might help, I'd be very grateful to hear about them. I'm taking colloidal silver but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Thank you. Maybe this is just flu! I hope so then I can stop worrying! The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
AmyK Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's probably just a virus. It usually is. Try not to worry about it. Let your body take care of it, it will. Drink lots of tea (fresh ginger grated in hot water helps me sometimes). I have also have lots of infections the last year. Maybe it's the stress on the body. Take care! Current dose: 0! Free! Quit June 2017. 2017: Last dose zoloft: 17 June 0,00065 mg 18 May 0, 001 mg 14 May 0,002 mg 9 May 0,003 mg 28 April 0,006 mg 19 April 0,009 mg 8 April 0,013 mg 25 March 0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January 2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg; 2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg; 2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg; 2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg; 2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg; 2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the previous dose. Link to comment
AliG Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hi Winning. I would persevere with the colloidal silver. It might take a little while, though. I have found it to be the best replacement for antibiotics . Give it some time. I would also try some Apple Cider Vinegar ( with the mother ) . Bragg's is good. Maybe , with a little honey . Rooibos tea , is good for just about everything , as well. Maybe , with ginger , like Amy said. https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/beverage/health-benefits-of-red-rooibos-tea.html Sorry my last post to you was vague. I had been up all night , and was very tired and therefore cognitively challenged ! ( Withdrawal ). LOL. I hope you feel better, soon. Try not to worry . Hugs, Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's probably just a virus. It usually is. Try not to worry about it. Let your body take care of it, it will. Drink lots of tea (fresh ginger grated in hot water helps me sometimes). I have also have lots of infections the last year. Maybe it's the stress on the body. Take care! Thanks Amy. You're right, it probably is a virus. My stupid anxiety was getting the better of me! I'm sure it will all sort soon. Thank you. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hi Winning. I would persevere with the colloidal silver. It might take a little while, though. I have found it to be the best replacement for antibiotics . Give it some time. I would also try some Apple Cider Vinegar ( with the mother ) . Bragg's is good. Maybe , with a little honey . Rooibos tea , is good for just about everything , as well. Maybe , with ginger , like Amy said. https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/beverage/health-benefits-of-red-rooibos-tea.html Sorry my last post to you was vague. I had been up all night , and was very tired and therefore cognitively challenged ! ( Withdrawal ). LOL. I hope you feel better, soon. Try not to worry . Hugs, Ali Thanks Ali. I will keep going with the silver. I have some apple cider vinegar with the mother so I will look into that too and the robush tea. I didn't think your last post was vague! I just thought it was lovely of you to post and think of me. I'm really sorry I haven't written on your thread or anyone else's lately. I've been useless at writing on threads. I'm so sorry. I hope you're coping. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
KT38 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hi! I'm so sorry you are ill. I hope it's viral, too, for you. Are you taking ibuprofen or anything like that for the fever? You mentioned antibiotics is what started the akathisia. Did you take any psych meds earlier in your life? Dec 2014 I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a second, Prozac 10mg (15 days), Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this), Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitation, Lexapro 7.5mg (2 days), Lexapro 10mg (16 days), Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it, Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!! Zoloft 50mg (6 days), Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30, 2015 (my last benzo dose). Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, stress reaction x10000 to everything, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus). Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hi! I'm so sorry you are ill. I hope it's viral, too, for you. Are you taking ibuprofen or anything like that for the fever? You mentioned antibiotics is what started the akathisia. Did you take any psych meds earlier in your life? Thanks KT. I'm taking a bit of paracetemol. I never took psych meds although I had three gynae operations and one was major. That was years ago. I was given a pre med and loads of anesthetic plus I had sleeping pills for 5 nights which were probably z drugs or benzos. About 15 years ago I took a herbal remedy for about 4 months for candida. It contained St. John's wort and at the time I knew nothing about it being an ssri. Possibly that might have been a cause of sensitivity. At the start of all of this, I'd had an infection and been given metranidazole (about July 2013, something like that) and I was pretty ill on it. I got the most severe nausea I'd ever had and the room was spinning. Every time I tried to sleep I'd have the same weird dream and wake a couple of minutes later with my jugular beating out of my neck. This kept happening and then I kept getting out of bed and pacing around the lounge but didn't know why. Even doctors said that metranidazole is a very nasty drug and a lot of people are very ill on it. I stopped the drug and the next day as it started to leave my system, I suddenly became suicidal out of the blue. It was a non stop feeling, like mental akathisia. When that passed, I couldn't see properly and fell into a toxic sleep. After that I was ok. Not long afterwards, I took augmentin, thinking I'd be ok on them as I'd had them before. An hour after taking the first one I started pacing around the house and felt severely suicidal. I thought it must be anxiety. I took the next dose and the same nausea hit as I'd had on metranidazole. I kept trying to 'pull myself together'. I took the third dose (I was put on three a day) and was going insane, pacing, banging the walls, retching and wanting to die. I went to hospital and they said it was a reaction to the antibiotics and that it would calm down when they had left my system. After that, every morning I'd wake with nausea and retching and was agitated and had severe derealisation. At times I had clear windows and felt normal. Unfortunately, instead of waiting for it to calm down, I went to the doctors and was given valium to take as needed and citalopram which completely destroyed me. That's when the REAL akathisia started. I hope this helps. I still don't know exactly what happened. One thing that I've only NOW begun to realise which I never realised before is that before taking the antibiotics, I'd been taking over the counter codeine quite a bit. I took over the counter paracetemol and codeine fairly regularly for a little while before the antibiotics. I stopped it before I took the metranidazole and the reaction to the metranidazole didn't happen until about 3 days in, from memory. I also took the paracetemol and codeine again after stopping the metranidazole when I felt better and stopped it again before taking the augmentin. So now, I'm wondering if I actually went into withdrawal from the codeine. It never would have occurred to me that over the counter low dose codeine (about 8 mg but I was taking two at a time as per the instructions) could cause any serious withdrawal, even though it says on the box don't take for more than three days. I've heard of others having pretty bad withdrawal from over the counter codeine. So now I'm rethinking everything and wondering if it really was the antibiotics or whether I had codeine withdrawal. I will never know. Looking back, I wasn't right before I took the augmentin. I don't know whether I was getting some kind of kick back from the metranidazole but I was getting anxiety on and off and the night before the augmentin, my head felt wrong. The next day, before I took the augmentin, I felt nauseous and unsettled and I couldn't see properly. It's all a bit of a grey area, really. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 My stupid anxiety is driving me nuts. I don't want to post on here about my stupid anxious worries but I can't seem to help myself just now. I really need to get a handle on my health anxiety. I'm giving myself a good talking to! I think it's very very difficult not to get anxious in this situation especially when we get additional stuff on top. I've been doing some home urine tests (sorry if that's too much information) and I'm consistently getting the top level of ketones. I've also been getting trace glucose. Today it was up from trace to the next one up so for some reason, some glucose is leaking into my urine. I, of course, googled it (bad idea with anxiety) and I saw that high ketones and glucose in your urine can mean ketoacidosis and if you have diabetes this is pretty dangerous. It can cause coma and death. Stupid, stupid anxiety. I probably don't have diabetes, I've had a few tests for it and it was negative but I haven't had a test for a while. I know that antipsychotics can cause it and I was on one although I've been off that for two years now. I'm also consistently getting the top level of leukocytes in my urine but no nitrates. Maybe this is all just weird withdrawal stuff. I'm going to see the nurse practitioner tomorrow. I hate going to the doctors but I should put my mind and rest and make sure I haven't actually developed diabetes. Hopefully not. She can check my throat too to make sure I don't have strep which I probably don't. Stupid, stupid anxiety. What with that and the strep throat symptoms. I've spent today convincing myself that I have strep throat that's about to turn into sepsis and that I'm having a diabetic crisis and may end up unconscious in hospital pumped up full of drugs that I didn't consent to. This is the worst thing I could do to myself getting in a state like this on top of everything else. I need to get a grip and calm down. I'm being utterly ridiculous. The best case scenario is that I don't have diabetes and am not having a ketoacidosis crisis but I just have some weird anomalies for no reason and it's nothing to be alarmed about. Also that I don't have any kind of bacterial infection and it's just the flu and will all pass in a few days/weeks and I will just have to deal with the usual withdrawal nightmare. I'm so sorry for being so pathetic and writing such a ridiculous thread and pouring out my fears here. I just really really need to go somewhere with this and it's helping to get it all out and realise how silly I'm being. I'm calming down now and I'm sure all will be well. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
LexAnger Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I am so sorry Winning! I can completely understand your anxiety experiencing additional health issues on top of WD! After years of battling getting our health back and still in the midst of it, it's very natural to feel anxious and think the worst! I remember I did with my first episode of the heart problems then breast pain issues. Eventually they turned out to be all from the drug and the sytoms either went away or I'm learned to live with it. These drugs can cause anything, everything seemingly so wrong so I would think your case is just another example. You may want to rule other real problems out by sesing a doctor for some formal tests so you will not searching around for the worst scenario yourself. My initial anxiety pre meds was caused by the exact same behavior for a minor issue and I grew crazy thinking the most unlikely complication occurring to me. i believe they are all benign and you will soon back to the only really battle of WD. Hugs, Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
luv2knit Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 WT, the Colloidal Silver and other things mentioned are all good. Another natural antibiotic is Manuka Honey. There are different strengths of this, and the one I have taken orally is MGO 100/UMF 10+. I am taking this right now for my allergies/asthma, and to hopefully prevent a sinus infection or other complications. I am taking a conservative dose of 1/4 tsp. twice a day, because it seems to be helping and I am very sensitive. It also can act as a laxative, and I have had a bit of this problem. You should be able to take 1/2 to 1 tsp. two or even three times a day for something more serious, although you might want to start at a lower dosage to test it out. Like Colloidal Silver, Manuka Honey has even been known to be effective against MRSA. Hope this gives you something additional to try. XOXO Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
KT38 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Did they test you for strep? Dec 2014 I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a second, Prozac 10mg (15 days), Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this), Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitation, Lexapro 7.5mg (2 days), Lexapro 10mg (16 days), Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it, Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!! Zoloft 50mg (6 days), Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30, 2015 (my last benzo dose). Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, stress reaction x10000 to everything, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus). Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 I am so sorry Winning! I can completely understand your anxiety experiencing additional health issues on top of WD! After years of battling getting our health back and still in the midst of it, it's very natural to feel anxious and think the worst! I remember I did with my first episode of the heart problems then breast pain issues. Eventually they turned out to be all from the drug and the sytoms either went away or I'm learned to live with it. These drugs can cause anything, everything seemingly so wrong so I would think your case is just another example. You may want to rule other real problems out by sesing a doctor for some formal tests so you will not searching around for the worst scenario yourself. My initial anxiety pre meds was caused by the exact same behavior for a minor issue and I grew crazy thinking the most unlikely complication occurring to me. i believe they are all benign and you will soon back to the only really battle of WD. Hugs, Lex, thank you for your lovely message. I'm sorry you've had to deal with so much. WT, the Colloidal Silver and other things mentioned are all good. Another natural antibiotic is Manuka Honey. There are different strengths of this, and the one I have taken orally is MGO 100/UMF 10+. I am taking this right now for my allergies/asthma, and to hopefully prevent a sinus infection or other complications. I am taking a conservative dose of 1/4 tsp. twice a day, because it seems to be helping and I am very sensitive. It also can act as a laxative, and I have had a bit of this problem. You should be able to take 1/2 to 1 tsp. two or even three times a day for something more serious, although you might want to start at a lower dosage to test it out. Like Colloidal Silver, Manuka Honey has even been known to be effective against MRSA. Hope this gives you something additional to try. XOXO Luv, thank you :-) I've started taking manuka honey. I hope you're coping as well as you can. Did they test you for strep? KT, I wasn't actually tested for strep but I did see a nurse practitioner who reassured me. I'll update in a sec. I first just wanted to say thank you to everyone on here for your support and care. I really really appreciate it. Thank you. I saw a nurse practitioner. She examined me and said I was full of virus but there was nothing to suggest that it was bacterial. I told her about the ketones and glucose and she tested my blood. She said "you're not overtly diabetic" whatever that meant. She said my reading was 6.2. I don't know what that means but I think it was a normal reading. She's sent a sample off to the lab. Sorry for not writing on anyone's thread. I will one of these days. The rooms spinning right now so I need to go. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted March 19, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 19, 2016 You can do it, Winning. Take care. Get some rest. 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
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