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Branyan's success story:  branyan-pssd-successchallenges

 

First posted this today in the Symptoms forum, but since it is my first post I will post it here in hopes i can get some replies

 

Keep in mind, that in addition to the sexual side effects (which in all honesty are the biggest deal to me, considering i lived with all the other symptoms while on the Lexapro itself and maintained a good life) I deal with cognitive difficulty, food and drink sensitivies, etc etc.

 

 

"Hey all. New here. Since coming off Lexapro (after being on from Mid 2007 to March 2010) I have experience a slow decline in my sexual function which platuead in about Febuary.

 

Generally speaking I feel unaware of my penis and sexual realm. I feel that has something to do with the pudendal nerve. Even when I can achieve an erection it is mostly numb. I cannot get visually aroused 98% of the time, and would be unable to have sex or feel intimacy at this point. This after enjoying 2 very good sexual relationships while on Lexapro. Keep in mind that the sex declined as the years went on on Lexapro. And I am only 23! Interestingly enough, the only facet of my sexual function that is somewhat intact is the actual orgasm which still feels really good.

 

Anyway. I have been over to the YAHOO PSSD group and seen the despair over there. It sounds like this is a permanent deal, although I have had many people try to convince me otherwise.

 

Any success stories out there>

 

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2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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Welcome, PSSDnotforme.

 

I can say I have recovered completely from PSSD after 6.5 years. But I'm of the other gender and post-menopausal. I would think recovery would be faster for a younger person.

 

Sexual response is governed by a complex interplay of hormones, sexual and otherwise. PSSD is probably not a nerve issue per se. Lexapro and withdrawal have knocked your hormonal balance for a loop.

 

While the PSSD is most distressing to you, it is part and parcel of your other prolonged withdrawal symptoms. As they get better, your PSSD will get better.

 

It's a very good sign that pleasure in orgasm is still there!

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Hey guys! Brunyan here from the old PP forums. I haven't written in any SSRI or related forum in almost 2 years now. The reason being? Things for the most part have been pretty damn great. My actual life is great. I have a great career started. I am finally independent and financially stable. I've had a couple of short relationships in between now and when Paxil Progress ended. During that sexual relationship I almost NEVER had one problem. Not only that, things were pretty freaking great in that department. I never had any problems getting it up, and sex was frequent and very good.

 

Now there is still some of the genital numbness, and spotty libido, but was scarcely a worry.

 

So. fast forward. We broke up. Not the right time in our lives, etc etc blah blah.

 

 

Now the libido and functioning goes right back down to nothing good. This has been the pattern in the post SSRI/PSSD world for almost 5-6 years now. In the relationship things work great. Outside of that relationship, even when by myself things just dont feel very good.

 

I realize how lucky I am. I'm grateful to have what I have. I'm so lucky. I'm not even really complaining. I just kind of needed to vent because its kind of scary. And in the past the one habit I've made is obsessively trying to hook up with girls or look at porn to keep testing if things are working. And I want to be a lone for a while and do some more soul searching. 

 

The last girl i was with I was very upfront about the PSSD stuff, and we took our time to get to sex and that made all the difference. I cannot discount the emotional and psychological part of it. It's almost as if the PSSD has made those components so strong that I am now 'demi-sexual". 

 

If you look that up it basically means you can't be aroused without an emotional connection..

 

I've got a lot of work to do in therapy to deal with this. I need to listen to my rational mind and not the fearful part. I can do this.

 

I'm of course open to any and all questions as I know that my story has been used as a success story for many people fearful of PSSD around the internet. 

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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Hi Branyan--  Welcome to the group, it's good to hear from you again.  Such an exciting update.  You've moved well past the struggles you were having at Prior Place.  When you get a chance would you please make an entry in the success stories thread, there are a lot of people here who would love to hear about it.  Especially the PSSD aspects. 

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Thanks mate! Should I just copy and paste this into the recovery forum?

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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That would be a good start. Some "before" information would be nice to let people know where you started.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Very happy to hear you're doing better. I added our cheerful "here comes the sun" symbol



to the title of your Intro topic, to show you're recovering.
 

branyan's story continues in the Success Stories forum here branyan PSSD success/challenges

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Sadly, I'm back, with a different issue.

 

Hello!


sidenote: hello Altostrata my old (as in a long time ago, you’re not old) friend!

 

Many of you knew me a loooong time ago both here and from Paxilprogress. I made, and still have maintained an incredible recovery from PSSD. This is, even, after starting Remeron last December. It wasn't a choice for me, I had to get on the drug to save my own life. I don't regret that. The question is now how to get off. I am down to 7.5MG. The 'behind the glass" "anhedonia" and horrible fatigue and oversleeping is ruining me. 

 

Like I (mentioned, back in December I got on Remeron because of my Tinnitus. I am almost to the point where Tinnitus is a small issue. I have successfully largely habituated to the point where most days I don't even hear it, acknowledge it, or think much of it despite it being heard over any environmental sound. I worked with CBT for Tinnitus Experts and along with the medication calming me down I am now at place where it is not the major issue in my life.

 

The Remeron however is extremely sedating and gives me this "behind the glass" feeling that makes me feel slow, confused, and not "myself". This was tolerable for 6 months as the distress of the Tinnitus was a larger issue! Now the reverse is true. A ripple to that is I was diagnosed with "hypersomnia" last year (incidental discovery from sleep study). Suffice it to say that I am a bit more tired than others. The remeron piles on that tremendously. 

 

The other reason that my anxiety around this symptom has arose is that I just started a new job, which was huge for me! I habituated to my Tinnitus and got the confidence to get a new job! Now I am really feeling regret. I am traditionally really really bad with change. I am having a tremendous amount of negative thoughts around this. My feeling tired/out of it/behind the glass is contributing to a lot of self-worthlessness and feelings like a made a mistake getting a new job. I am of course working with a therapist on this right now.

 

This job is a typical 9-5 job unlike my previous job of being a Teacher. The fear of not being good enough has played into all of these symptoms tremendously and has put me back into a bit of a 'crisis" mode. I thought that maybe the feeling of being 'behind the glass "was just me, but then I read others reports of these exact feelings and a horrible feeling of "not being able to fully wake up". So I have discussed a taper with my psych. I am considering doing that with her help.

 

My fear of course is that I will taper, and then all sudden not be able to sleep, and then fail at work and get fired. Not to mention make my wife miserable. A friend of mine who went through Tinnitus Distress and came out the other side mentioned to me that before I took the Remeron (in December) (and after taking Zyprexa (in October) which calmed me down for 2 weeks) I was still fresh in learning about the distress. And that now that I am doing well with the Tinnitus, my brain won't forget what it learned. My Nurse Practicioner feels the same. They both feel that just because I get off a medication, doesn't mean your brain forgets the lesson. That is what habituation is.

 

What I hope will happen:

  • I will get off the Remeron
  • I will use Ativan as needed to manage any withdrawal symptoms
  • My personality and energy will come back
  • Because of the experience of using CBT/Mindfulness to deal with the Tinnitus I will have a new found strength with other issues and I will excel at both my job and in life with a new confidence.

 

What I fear will happen:

  • I will get off the Remeron
  • I won't be able to sleep and thus it will exacerbate my sleep issues
  • I will become catastrophically anxious, and endanger myself and not be able to control a spiral
  • I will get fired from my job
  • I won't get the bounceback I want of feeling like "myself" and it will turn out that all those feelings were not real and that I am stuck feeling this horrible way forever.
  • I will be stuck with anxiety, fog, fatigue and won't be able to be productive in society.
  • Because I won't be able to take off work to manager the taper, the above will happen.
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This 'spiral' of sorts started about 3 weeks ago. I need someone to bounce these ideas off of.

 

Thank you so much

 

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2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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Hi @branyan,

These sound like thought distortions to me and will need working with your therapist on them.

 

1. Whether you made a mistake going into this new drug or not is irrelevant now, it's done. No use ruminating over it.

 

2. None of us know what will happen when you taper from your drug before you taper, it's impossible to predict. What we know is that whatever does happen will resolve to normal eventually whether it's a difficult process or not.

 

3. You're wondering if you made a mistake getting a job and are also worried about losing it. If it's not strictly necessary to have this job then losing it won't have big consequences it seems. So no use worrying about it.

 

4. The behind the glass feeling may abate as you lower your dose even if you don't come off of the drug completely.

 

I'm not giving you links on proper tapering as you're a veteran here but let me know if you need assistance with that.

 

I think you need to invest some time in learning anxiety management techniques - CBT or Claire Weekes both have videos and info online.

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I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. 

 

If you would like to get a response from me directly please type @Onmyway some place in your message so I get notified of your post. I am not able to follow all of the threads all the time.

 

Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used)

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up)

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, 

citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg,  7/27/19 -1.5 mg,  8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785

 

Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate

 

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3 hours ago, Onmyway said:

Hi @branyan,

These sound like thought distortions to me and will need working with your therapist on them.

 

1. Whether you made a mistake going into this new drug or not is irrelevant now, it's done. No use ruminating over it.

 

Hi @Onmyway. I totally agree (about the thought distortions). I did it I needed to, and I am here now. (taking the drug)

 

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2. None of us know what will happen when you taper from your drug before you taper, it's impossible to predict. What we know is that whatever does happen will resolve to normal eventually whether it's a difficult process or not.

I think the part where I am stuck in the distortions is that since I have been on the drug 6 months (and was off medications for 10 years), It's hard to remember what the "real" me felt like and if I will be able to tell the difference. I know that when I took Zyprexa last year for a month or so, I felt that "real" me when I got off of it, so I am hoping the same happens here.

 

 

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3. You're wondering if you made a mistake getting a job and are also worried about losing it. If it's not strictly necessary to have this job then losing it won't have big consequences it seems. So no use worrying about it.

This is a big distortions. I probably won't lose the job, and I have already gotten good marks from my boss there. I think learning, last year, that I had Narcolepsy/Hypersomnia has made me obsessive about any tiredness I feel. Subsequent usage of forums for this issue (Sleep disorders) where people go on their and despair about being "disabled" has made me turn inwards with this thinking. Suffice it to say, but I would have had this sleeping disorder since adolescence. It wouldn't be new, per se.

 

It would be not good if I did lose the job, and would jeopardize paying the rent and my marriage, possibly, but again I don't think that will happen. 

 

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4. The behind the glass feeling may abate as you lower your dose even if you don't come off of the drug completely.

I am now down to 3.75 this morning. Even though I didn't sleep great, I do feel a little less of that feeling. We will see if that lasts. 

 

Thank you so much for your time and thoughts. This is a challenging time in my life, like back in 2011 when I got on the paxilprogress forums. I made it out of the that time in my life and did amazing things.

 

I still have to get more sleep tests which may give me access to medications that could help with that, so I am trying to keep the positive that this could result in a better quality of life. 

 

I hope you have a a wonderful day ❤️

 

 

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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@branyandid you drop your dosage by 50% if you are at 3.75? You know that SA does not support lowering your dose by more than 10% of your previous dose. We can't support you through a fast taper given that you know better. We don't have tools to reverse the destabilization that follows. 

 

You are obsessed with some version of a 'real me' but we change all the time. The 'me' from a year ago is not the same one now - that's life. What's important is whether you are able to participate in life, enjoy yourself etc. 

 

I'd reverse the 50% drop and do a proper taper (10%) especially because you've had difficulty withdrawing before.

 

Omw

I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. 

 

If you would like to get a response from me directly please type @Onmyway some place in your message so I get notified of your post. I am not able to follow all of the threads all the time.

 

Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used)

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up)

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, 

citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg,  7/27/19 -1.5 mg,  8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785

 

Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate

 

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10 minutes ago, Onmyway said:

@branyandid you drop your dosage by 50% if you are at 3.75? You know that SA does not support lowering your dose by more than 10% of your previous dose. We can't support you through a fast taper given that you know better. We don't have tools to reverse the destabilization that follows. 

 

You are obsessed with some version of a 'real me' but we change all the time. The 'me' from a year ago is not the same one now - that's life. What's important is whether you are able to participate in life, enjoy yourself etc. 

 

I'd reverse the 50% drop and do a proper taper (10%) especially because you've had difficulty withdrawing before.

 

Omw

@Onmyway

 

I totally understand what you are saying. I am doing the taper from the advice of the prescriber. But I understand you cannot support me if I choose to do it differently than you recommend. I respect that.

 

You are right about the "real me" comments. There is a lot of truth there.

 

I am struggling with bad quality sleep and extreme lethargy while trying to get treatment for my sleep disorder. While I am exhausted everyday, I am trying my best and getting good marks at work. So I know I just need to stay strong and keep moving forward until I receive the proper treatment and care for that issue.

 

Thank you for your thoughts. If I choose to restore to a 10% taper I will keep you all posted. Thanks again for your help!

 

 

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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On 6/7/2022 at 1:58 PM, branyan said:

The question is now how to get off. I am down to 7.5MG. The 'behind the glass" "anhedonia" and horrible fatigue and oversleeping is ruining me. 

 

How has your symptom pattern changed as you've reduced?

 

16 hours ago, branyan said:

I am now down to 3.75 this morning. Even though I didn't sleep great, I do feel a little less of that feeling. We will see if that lasts. 

 

This is quite a drop. It may take some time for you to feel the entire effect of it. 

 

If you didn't have this excessive sleepiness problem before you took Remeron, why do you think you have narcolepsy, hypersomnia, or a sleep disorder now? It sounds like you're experiencing a common drug adverse effect.

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6 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

How has your symptom pattern changed as you've reduced?

 

 

This is quite a drop. It may take some time for you to feel the entire effect of it. 

 

If you didn't have this excessive sleepiness problem before you took Remeron, why do you think you have narcolepsy, hypersomnia, or a sleep disorder now? It sounds like you're experiencing a common drug adverse effect.

Hi @Altostrata! So great to hear from you. I hope you are doing well.

 

I am after the 2nd night of 3.75. So far both nights I have had insomnia. However, my Tinnitus pre-dates the Remeron and often keeps me from deep sleep. Whereas before the Remeron, the Tinnitus no longer causes many issues during the day, I now have trouble sleeping through the night. So I am exhausted and irritable, again, today. I am hoping that the rebound insomnia, gets better. But the feeling of not being behind glass which I have now is very very welcome. I plan to stay here at 3.75 for a while.

 

I had a sleep study last June where they (preliminarily) diagnosed this issue. The diagnosis is not totally confirmed yet. I sought out the sleep study because I couldn't sleep because of the Tinnitus. The Remeron (which I started taking in December) made me sleep through the night. But it also made me sleep 10+ hours, that were not restful. I would wake up feeling groggy and "Behind glass". I would argue it was the anti-histamine properties. 

 

Before the Tinnitus (Developed April of last year, out of the blue) I believe I was tired, but I never thought of it as a problem. I took naps where I needed, and caught up on my sleep deficit. At current, I dont really have that ability, as when I lie down for naps I don't fall fully asleep. 😞

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, branyan said:

I had a sleep study last June where they (preliminarily) diagnosed this issue. The diagnosis is not totally confirmed yet. I sought out the sleep study because I couldn't sleep because of the Tinnitus. The Remeron (which I started taking in December) made me sleep through the night. But it also made me sleep 10+ hours, that were not restful. I would wake up feeling groggy and "Behind glass". I would argue it was the anti-histamine properties. 

 

If they diagnosed hypersomnia while you were taking Remeron, they cannot be good diagnosticians. Sleepiness is a very common effect of the drug.

 

7 hours ago, branyan said:

I am hoping that the rebound insomnia, gets better. But the feeling of not being behind glass which I have now is very very welcome. I plan to stay here at 3.75 for a while.

 

Yes, if you taper too fast, you might get rebound insomnia.

 

This does not seem that complicated to me. You probably want to find a dosage of mirtazapine where it helps your tinnitus but does not cause excessive sleepiness.

 

I hope you get accustomed to the new lower dosage soon. If you want to decrease further, you might taper more carefully. Otherwise, I can't see how we can help you. In the meantime, here are tips to aid sleep:

 

Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Path to Better Sleep FREE online for everyone from the US Veterans Administration

 

Music for self-care: Calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

White noise devices for sleep

 

Melatonin for sleep: Many people find it helpful

 

TV or computer use in evening can disrupt sleep: Bright light signals the brain that it's daytime

 

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

 

If they diagnosed hypersomnia while you were taking Remeron, they cannot be good diagnosticians. Sleepiness is a very common effect of the drug.

 

 

Yes, if you taper too fast, you might get rebound insomnia.

 

This does not seem that complicated to me. You probably want to find a dosage of mirtazapine where it helps your tinnitus but does not cause excessive sleepiness.

 

I hope you get accustomed to the new lower dosage soon. If you want to decrease further, you might taper more carefully. Otherwise, I can't see how we can help you. In the meantime, here are tips to aid sleep:

 

Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Path to Better Sleep FREE online for everyone from the US Veterans Administration

 

Music for self-care: Calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

White noise devices for sleep

 

Melatonin for sleep: Many people find it helpful

 

TV or computer use in evening can disrupt sleep: Bright light signals the brain that it's daytime

 

 

The hypersomnia was diagnosed when I was completely medication free.

 

 

The 3.75 dose seems like a good place for me to say for now. Between not feeling weird anymore and the other drug I take to stay alert, life is tolerable/doable for now. I don't think I will be shifting the dose any time soon.

 

Thank you for your help! And thank you for your links for sleep 🙂

2000 Lamictal Zoloft  - 2001-2003 Still Zoloft
2004 Neurotin, LexaproSeroquel 
2005 OFF MEDS ENTIRELY
2006 -2009 Lexapro
March 2010 Off Lexapro on Zyprexa  - November 2010 off Zyprexa
Off ALL MEDICATION -Jan 22nd 2011

October 2021 On Zyprexa - November 2021 Off Zyprexa

December - Current on Remeron

Want to get off, horrible 'behind glass" feeling and awful fatigue, sleeping forever.

 

 

 

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