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Lillienz: Loxamine Withdrawal (aropax)


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Hi, does anyone have any tips to come off this. I think it was formally called Aropax. I have been on this 18 years and so wish to come off it.!!

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Hi Lillienz, welcome to SA. I have moved your post to the introductions forum, this will be your topic to add to and ask questions about your taper. 

 

We have a topic on tapering Loxamine, which is another name for paroxetine, or paxil 

 

We recommend tapering by reducing no more than 10%  of the current dose with a month between drops. 

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/405-tips-for-tapering-off-paxil-paroxetine/

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6632-the-rule-of-3kis-keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable/

 

Listen to your body when tapering, any withdrawal symptoms means the cuts are too big or too soon. You will get a feel of how your body is reacting to tapering and be able to adjust as necessary. It will take a long time to taper, but is well worth taking the time to go very slowly, especially after many years. Your brain has functioned around the drug for so many years that it needs to be sneaked  away very carefully so your brain and nervous system can adjust to the lowering doses. Lots of people have gone too fast and ended up back on the drug and being ill with withdrawal . The total time recovering and restarting a taper is longer than the slow taper would have been! ( I did this too  :blush: ) I'm glad that you are here preparing to taper and not in withdrawal from a too fast taper recommended by doctors. 

 

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Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hello Lillienz,

 

I spotted the 'nz' in your name so I've come to say welcome to SA from another Kiwi :).  There are a few of us here, tapering different drugs.  You can find local NZ info at this thread here:  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7803-new-zealand-members-please-check-in-here/

 

As MammaP said, it's awesome that you are finding out about tapering before launching into it.  You'll do so much better that way.  Have a good browse around the forums, and come back here with any questions.

 

Kia kaha :)

Karen

2010  Fluoxetine 20mg.  2011  Escitalopram 20mg.  2013 Tapered badly and destabilised CNS.  Effexor 150mg. 

2015 Begin using info at SurvivingAntidepressants.  Cut 10% - bad w/d 2 months, held 1 month. 

Micro-tapering: four weekly 0.4% cuts, hold 4 weeks (struggling with symptoms).

8 month hold.

2017 Micro-tapering: four weekly 1% cuts, hold 4 weeks (symptoms almost non-existent).

2020 Still micro-tapering. Just over 2/3 of the way off effexor. Minimal symptoms, - and sleeping well.
Supplements: Fish oil, vitamin C, iron, oat-straw tea, nettle tea.

My story of healing:ContinuedHealing

***I am not a doctor; please do your own research and be able to take responsibility for decisions you make.*** 

           'The possibility of renewal exists so long as life exists.'  Dr Gabor Mate.

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Lillienz: 
 

 

Would you confirm that the drug you're asking about (Aropax/Loxamine) is paroxetine?

(you could check with your pharmacist about the generic name)

 

If the generic name is paroxetine, here is our relevant topic:
 

Tips for tapering off Paxil (paroxetine)
 
edited to add: mammaP found a PDF that is the consumer/patient information for New Zealanders taking Loxamine.

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added NZ patient information link

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


scallywag's Introduction
Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet

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Many thanks for the answers and support. Will check out the kiwi group too. Still learning this site and how it works, so I hope you see this reply.

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Welcome Lililenz,

So glad you found sa.

 

Loxamine is another name of paroxetine =aropax=paxil=seroxat= heaps of other names.

 

You can get off this drug safely. I reckon you should check out moderator Brassmonkey's path to freedom. He's done  brilliantly keeping  his job in the  process.

Please consider writing a complaint letter to CARM and Pharmac should you feel you have not been informed of any issues with this drug or been harmed or kept an addict by stealth.

 

18 yrs is a long time you will need to go slow follow the Brassmonkey.

welcome

nz11

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Any update on what you have decided ?

I wonder what tapering advise your doctor gave you? Please be sure to get a second opinion from sa .

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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