Gracee Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Very little sleep last night, but stuck it out and rested as well as I could. No anxiety, thankful for that. Picked up a book and read a little during the sleeplessness. I don't intend to rely on prescription or OTC meds for sleep. Still no WD symptoms except for tinnitus. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Brief window of relief closed this afternoon. Became unfocused, dizzy, lethargic with increased tinnitus. After four-hours, still have same symptoms except more tired and irritable. I'm disappointed. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 @ChessieCat I read where you posted that magnesium takes the edge off your anxiety. How do you take your magnesium? As needed as you feel anxiety coming on? One of two tablets daily at specific times? Thanks for helping. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted January 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 25, 2019 Magnesium Don't take calcium at the same time as magnesium. You need to separate them by at least 2(?) hours. I take 1/2 tablet twice a day, morning and before bed. Each tablet 150mg magnesium citrate. Occasionally I will take an additional half in the middle of the day. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 @ChessieCat Thanks for info on magnesium. I've been taking just one 250 mg tablet in evening (take calcium in morning). Will try taking half earlier in day and other half in evening. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 The past two days have been good. I feel like I'm leveling off again. Tomorrow I have two events to attend. I need to be focused and alert for both....GROAN. Praying I don't get whacked with WD symptoms. I am an introvert and dislike socializing. Why are we introverts told that socializing is good for us? I've never heard anyone tell an extrovert that they need to be more withdrawn. Oh well....daily rant. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Today turned out great in spite of my concerns. Took a Benadryl and Valerian for sleep last night. Slept OK. No WD symptoms today except for the ever-present tinnitus. No anxiety despite full schedule. If next two days are good, I may try a micro-taper from Paxil 33.75 mg to 32.5 mg. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 No sleep aid last night. Woke several times but that's my normal. Had some moments of panic this morning when I thought I'd double-dosed. I still don't know for sure whether I did or not. I normally have a week's worth of pills cut and ready in advance, but this morning I was assembling them all and swallowing them at same time. Lesson learned. I did have more queasiness and dizziness this morning than past few days. Took a ginger capsule and a piece of ginger root and that helped. Don't know when the effects of a double-dose would hit me. Tomorrow maybe??? The possibility of accidently ingesting nearly 68 mg of Paxil has me worried. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted January 28, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hi Gracee, Thanks for coming over to my thread. Yes, it’s pretty scary when we make mistakes such as double dosing etc. I’ve accidentally double dosed twice, I felt severe symptoms pretty much straight away and they lasted quite a while, but I stabilised again. The first time I was really stressed, but the second time I wasn’t going to add secondary fear to something I couldn’t change anyway, so I stayed calm and just rode out the symptoms. We always eventually stabilise again, so that’s just what I said to myself the second time I did it, and I did stabilise again. You aren’t even sure if you double dosed, stressing about it will make your withdrawal symptoms worse. I’m sorry you’re so stressed about this. Keep us updated as to how you’re going, sending hugs🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Today was a good window. No WD symptoms except for big-time fatigue late afternoon. I probably earned that fatigue as I worked on my federal and state tax returns in morning. and in afternoon played two-hours of mah jongg with my neighborhood MJ sharks (and even won a game). @Carmie I probably didn't double-dose yesterday after all. Whole lot of needless worry over nothing. Tinnitus, which is usually strongest in evening, is just moderate right now. Starting tomorrow, I plan to reduce Paxil from 33.75 mg to 32.5. Sending caring thoughts and hugs to all. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted January 28, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hi Gracee, Glad to hear you think you didn’t double dose yesterday. Both times I double dosed I felt it right away. All the best with your continued tapering💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Gracee said: Whole lot of needless worry over nothing. I guess we have all done that! good luck with the continued taper ❤️ Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Carmie said: Hi Gracee, Glad to hear you think you didn’t double dose yesterday. Both times I double dosed I felt it right away. All the best with your continued tapering💚 Thanks @Carmie, I am relieved I didn't double-dose. This scare taught me to be more mindful dispensing my meds. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 7 hours ago, JackieDecides said: I guess we have all done that! good luck with the continued taper ❤️ Thanks @JackieDecides, Appreciate your good wishes and I am also wishing you the best with your withdrawal. There is comfort knowing I'm not alone in this. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted January 29, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Gracee said: This scare taught me to be more mindful dispensing my meds. remembering-to-take-your-dose-reminder-ideas * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted January 29, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 29, 2019 Hi Gracee, Check out the link ChessieCat gave you. She wrote it to give people some ideas about how we can remember if we have taken our meds or not. I bought myself a Monday to Sunday pill box ages ago. There have been quite a few people that have missed doses or double dosed, myself included. It’s so easy when our brains are in lala land. Hope you’re coping okay today💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 This is the third day of my taper from 33.75 mg Paxil to 32.5. Had a very sleepless night last night and had to go back to bed this morning for a couple hours to catch up on sleep. I normally get up around 7 a.m. and try to stick to that schedule regardless of how little sleep I get, but this morning I really needed to catch up. Typical WD symptoms today: slightly dizzy, whooshing in head, and tinnitus as usual. I am really going to need a good long break after this taper. I must slow down. I recall from previous attempts I am inclined to go too fast because I just don't feel bad in early stages. To anyone taking the time to read here: thanks and be good to yourselves. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 I was still awake for two hours after going to bed last night so caved and took 3 mg Ambien. I hate when I take something for sleep, but I also hate not getting more than two hours sleep at night. Got up at 7:30 a.m. and put in four really productive hours of house and yard work then crashed. Dozed off and on while trying to read and remainder of afternoon felt extremely tired. I dislike not being active and this tiredness is frustrating. I need to remember to stay put on this dose and not get it into my head to reduce again when I start leveling off. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 7:37 PM, Carmie said: Hi Gracee, Check out the link ChessieCat gave you. She wrote it to give people some ideas about how we can remember if we have taken our meds or not. I bought myself a Monday to Sunday pill box ages ago. There have been quite a few people that have missed doses or double dosed, myself included. It’s so easy when our brains are in lala land. Hope you’re coping okay today💚 Hi @Carmie and @ChessieCat, I got myself a Monday - Sunday pill box.....an extra large one, to accommodate supplements and a week's worth of Paxil dose. Thanks to both of you for being here for all of us. G Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 3:51 PM, Gracee said: I am really going to need a good long break after this taper. I must slow down. I recall from previous attempts I am inclined to go too fast because I just don't feel bad in early stages. you need to take care of yourself, whatever that looks like. I hope you can slow down if you would be better off, although I can understand why you want to progress. Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, JackieDecides said: you need to take care of yourself, whatever that looks like. I hope you can slow down if you would be better off, although I can understand why you want to progress. I agree Jackie. I wrote SLOW DOWN on a sticky and stuck it on my pill container. Thanks for the friendly reminder and for understanding. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 1, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Gracee said: Hi @Carmie and @ChessieCat, I got myself a Monday - Sunday pill box.....an extra large one, to accommodate supplements and a week's worth of Paxil dose. Thanks to both of you for being here for all of us. G Hi Gracee, Glad to hear you got yourself a Monday to Sunday pill box. It’s easy to forgot if we’ve taken our pills sometimes because our brains are all over the place. And, yes, please continue to taper slowly, going fast doesn’t actually help us move forward any quicker as we end up in bigger waves and then have to hold longer anyway. It’s nice to occasionally have a break from tapering too, I’ve done that as well, especially when I’ve had important things coming up. Wishing you all the best in your continued recovery.💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Fifth-day of dose reduction. This is when I usually feel WD symptoms to the fullest. Typical fuzzy-dead and dizziness at their peak along with the ever-present tinnitus. Also, jittery and irritable...Kept busy by playing Pinochle with friends (trying not to show annoyance) When I am in my head, I am in enemy territory. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
SkyStreamer Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Gracee said: When I am in my head, I am in enemy territory. Lol! That is so true for all of us - with or without AD WD. I once heard someone say: 'My mind is like a bad neighbourhood. I never go there alone.' I'm rooting for you!! 09/2011- 01/2014: 10mg Cipralex / 02/2014: increased to 15mg Cipralex 02/2014 - 10/2016: 15mg Cipralex / 11/2016: reduced to 12.5mg Cipralex (over 2 weeks) 12/2016: reduced to 10mg Cipralex (over 2 weeks) / 01/2017 - 09/2018: 10mg Cipralex 10/2018 - 11/2018: reduced gradually to 7.5mg Cipralex / 12/2018: found SA & first learned about the 10% taper method 2019: 6.9mg / 2020: 5.1mg (0.064-0.065) 06/01/21/2021: 4.8mg (0.061-0.062) / 06/01/21/2021-04/15/2022: 3.8mg (0.048) / 04/16-07-10/15/2022 : 2.8mg (0.036mg) / 10/15/2022-04/27/2023: 2.4mg (0.031mg) / 04/27/2023-06/05/2023: 2.4mg (0.030mg) / 06/05/2023- 11/04/2023: 1.7mg (0.022mg) - Extremely bad WD; UPDOSED 03/01/2023- 04/03/2023: 2.0mg (0.025mg); UPDOSED AGAIN 04/04/2023: 2.3mg (0.028-0.029mg) Please Note: I am not a medical professional. Consult a knowledgeable medical professional when making decisions about your medical care. Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Gracee said: When I am in my head, I am in enemy territory. is this a quote from someone else or is it original - either way, very good! Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, SkyStreamer said: Lol! That is so true for all of us - with or without AD WD. I once heard someone say: 'My mind is like a bad neighbourhood. I never go there alone.' I'm rooting for you!! @SkyStreamer I am rooting for you too my friend. Hang in there Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, JackieDecides said: is this a quote from someone else or is it original - either way, very good! @JackieDecidesHeck no. I haven't had an original thought in decades....lol. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 mg ambien at bedtime last night. Slept well. It was much needed. Got up briefly at 7 a.m. Went back to bed and slept till 10 a.m. Good day, slight WD on and off. Completed assorted chores and projects. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Gracee said: 3 mg ambien at bedtime last night. Slept well. It was much needed. Got up briefly at 7 a.m. Went back to bed and slept till 10 a.m. Good day, slight WD on and off. Completed assorted chores and projects. I'm glad you got some sleep; it makes such a difference. 😍 Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, JackieDecides said: I'm glad you got some sleep; it makes such a difference. 😍 Thanks Jackie, Indeed, sleep can make the difference between a really bad day and a really good day. Hope you are having a comfortable weekend. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Slept good last night. Took a Benadryl before bed. Just moderate WD from time-to-time today. Began using my digital scale today to get dose more accurate. Prepared two weeks' worth in advance. Until now, I had been using a pill cutter, halving, then quartering, then eighthing. I'm familiar with scale weighing as I'd used this technique on other WD attempts. There is a good chance my new measured doses may be off from previous eye-balling doses. But at least the weight of all newly cut pills is consistent. I'll know in a few days if this change affects me. Whatever happens, I hope to stay put at this dose. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 IT FINALLY HAPPENED! After 40 days of tapering too fast, today I was hit with WD symptoms big-time. I've had some discomfort from the beginning but this morning I was knocked off my feet. Spent entire day in lounge chair. Not being able to move around was torture in itself. Total exhaustion, head fog, dizziness, queasiness, and inability to focus. I should know better. I've been down this highway too fast before and that's why my previous tapers didn't succeed. To recover, I just updosed a bit to my dose previous to last reduction and will stay put at 33.75 mg Paxil. Strange how a small adjustment makes a huge difference between being able to function and total discomfort. Hope I've learned my lesson this time. When I am in my head I am in enemy territory. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 5, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 5, 2019 I'm sorry that happened, Gracee. Please taper properly and don't count on being able to updose. Sometimes it doesn't work. Paxil is particularly difficult to go off. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 5, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2019 Hi Gracee, I’m really sorry you’ve been hit hard again with withdrawals. Pleeeeease stop tapering so quickly. I know that you know better because of your posts. What made you go fast again? I can see you didn’t hold long enough between tapers. We don’t get anywhere quicker when we go faster. We all want you to succeed this time. You can succeed. You’ve made mistakes in the past and couldn’t get off the meds, but if you taper slowly and hold for at least a month each time you can do this. I know you can! Sending hugs🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thank you @Altostrata. I will treat this 800-pound monster on my back more seriously now. As I said, I should know better. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Carmie said: Hi Gracee, What made you go fast again? I went fast because I thought tapering would be a bit easier at my higher doses. I know when I get down to 15 mg, I have to go super slow and at super tiny tapers. Also, I was feeling fine with minimal discomfort. I totally screwed up Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
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