Sleepless Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’ve been completing a daily log and noticed that I been having small windows each day. The odd thing is they keep moving: 10/11 started around 2:30pm 10/12 started around 4:30pm 10/13 started around 6:30pm I’m not on any medications other than levothyroxine and I’m not doing anything out of the ordinary. No exercising or walking. Does anyone have any insight to this? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted October 14, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 14, 2020 It doesn't really matter why they are at different times. The good thing is that you are getting windows. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: It doesn't really matter why they are at different times. The good thing is that you are getting windows. I’m very grateful for them.🙂 I just found it odd when they were appearing. I can say it’s extremely hard to remember a window when you’re drowning in a wave.☹️ Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted October 14, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Sleepless said: I can say it’s extremely hard to remember a window when you’re drowning in a wave. That's why it can be helpful to make a record of them. It's like when you are sick but getting a bit better. Because you still feel awful you cannot feel the improvement. It's also good to compare how you are feeling now to how you felt at your worst. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I purchased some magnesium citrate yesterday and started sipping on it. It made a big difference in my anxiety, sleep and mental status. I was able to get about 7 hours of sleep. Now the down side... It cause me to slightly start itching all over. I’m not going to stop taking it just yet. I’ll take some with food, lower the amount just a little and hopefully time will allow my body to accept it. I’ve also ordered some magnesium glycinate. It may work better. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 Progress: I was motivated enough to put on regular clothes instead of daytime pajamas. 3 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 I have a doctor appointment tomorrow that I cannot miss. If I feel that my anxiety is out of control, could I take a tiny chip of diazepam to get me through it? Would this set my recovery back? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 The doctors are pushing me to use my diazepam to control my anxiety, help me sleep and help my tachycardia. I had to take a small chip of it today to go to the doctor. I don’t want to use it, but I’m housebound if I don’t. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Will the unrelenting anxiety ever end? It will soon be 6 months since I stopped taking sertraline. Magnesium doesn’t help. It makes it worse. I tried a pinch of L-theanine and it made me feel really weird. I’m doing all the self-help I can find. I’m not sure I can handle much more of this. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Does anyone know if atenolol can be converted to a liquid using water? If so, how long will it last in the refrigerator? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted October 29, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sleepless said: Does anyone know if atenolol can be converted to a liquid using water? If so, how long will it last in the refrigerator? Hello, Have you tried to search on Google to see if Atenolol is water soluble ? I don't know, maybe you'll find this thread interesting : Take care 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Erell said: Have you tried to search on Google to see if Atenolol is water soluble ? Thanks. 🙂 So I’ve figured out that it is water soluble. I’m just not sure how long it will keep. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 I would like some input from a moderator please. I am currently on thyroid medication due to not having a thyroid because of cancer. The doctor keeps trying to up my thyroid medication because I am hypothyroid. Every time I try, I develop more tachycardia, muscle tension and anxiety. I’ve tried to take magnesium and it triggers a paradoxical reaction. I’ve been prescribed a beta blocker, but I’ve been trying to do this without using it. If I use the beta blocker regularly, will this set my recovery back? Can you think of any other options to help me? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 I’m still having trouble adjusting my thyroid medication. When I take it, it triggers tachycardia, muscle spasms from the torso up, breathing issues and high blood pressure. I believe that this happens because my CNS is unstable. I have a beta blocker to take, but I feel that it causes me depression. I’ve tried magnesium and I can’t take it. I have a heart doctor appointment today for testing results. I doubt he will believe in WD. I feel like I’m backed into a corner with no way out. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 My heart doctor appointment was rescheduled by the office. So no test results yet. I doubt anything is wrong with my heart. All my issues are from WD/CNS issues. I took a chip of atenolol around 10:00 am yesterday and it helped with the adrenaline and blood pressure, but it sure makes me depressed. Now that it’s worn off, I’m in full WD again. I’ve got burning skin, lots of anxiety, and insomnia. So my recovery has been set back. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 5, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Sleepless said: I doubt he will believe in WD. In Post No 1 of this topic there are two things which you can give your doctor about withdrawal. One is the DSM diagnosis for AD WD (take a copy of the number and give it to him) and the other is a leaflet from The Royal College of Psychiatry which you could print out (from the acknowledgements at the bottom of the document: "We are grateful to the Royal College of General Practitioners, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society and the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence for endorsing this work,") how-to-talk-to-a-doctor-about-tapering-and-withdrawal-what-to-expect * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: In Post No 1 of this topic there are two things which you can give your doctor about withdrawal. One is the DSM diagnosis for AD WD (take a copy of the number and give it to him) and the other is a leaflet from The Royal College of Psychiatry which you could print out (from the acknowledgements at the bottom of the document: "We are grateful to the Royal College of General Practitioners, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society and the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence for endorsing this work,") how-to-talk-to-a-doctor-about-tapering-and-withdrawal-what-to-expect Hi @ChessieCat I discussed WD with her. She is of the opinion that after 6 months, I should not be having issues and that I am just sensitive. She thinks that I should be taking diazepam regularly. I told her that I was not taking diazepam due to the black box warning concerning WD. She said that the small amount I have taken won’t cause WD if taken regularly. So I’m basically banging my head against a wall with her. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 5, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 5, 2020 Well so long as you can get the scripts you need you don't really have to have a doctor on board or believing you, although it would be nice. And at least you've got the information you need now. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 I’m hopeful that my heart doctor will believe in WD and prescribe me something else to block adrenaline besides a beta blocker. I have to up my thyroid medication somehow. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
mustafa Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 3:41 PM, Sleepless said: I spoke with my therapist yesterday and told her that I thought I was having protracted withdrawals. She asked me how long I had been off the medication and I told her 3 or 4 months. She told me that I should be over the withdrawals by now. 🙄 This is exactly the same thayt they wont stop telling u it even u visited them for billion times; like u, I felt highly not stable when I start to start taking antidepressants again especially after stopping them for months. I think u are suffering a typical withdrawals and as I read from gridley, u wont be able to reinstate but u should read how to care yourself with non-drug techniques, they are too useful. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, mustafa said: This is exactly the same thayt they wont stop telling u it even u visited them for billion times; like u, I felt highly not stable when I start to start taking antidepressants again especially after stopping them for months. I think u are suffering a typical withdrawals and as I read from gridley, u wont be able to reinstate but u should read how to care yourself with non-drug techniques, they are too useful. Thank you for the response. 🙂. I’ve been using non-drug techniques so far. I’m having tachycardia and pain that’s making it hard to stay away from drugs. I’m hoping the cardiologist will help with this. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 I had horrible muscle spasms this morning after taking my synthroid. I decided to try a pin head amount of diazepam. It seemed to help. So I’m going to try a GABA supplement to see if that would help. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
mustafa Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Sleepless said: Thank you for the response. 🙂. I’ve been using non-drug techniques so far. I’m having tachycardia and pain that’s making it hard to stay away from drugs. I’m hoping the cardiologist will help with this. I know that I miss alot of your updates, I read your signature just now. I hope u are doing well now. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 I feel that I was making some decent progress until recently. Several physical issues have set me back. How are you? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Another morning of anxiety, tachycardia and elevated blood pressure. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 6, 2020 Administrator Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Sleepless said: Another morning of anxiety, tachycardia and elevated blood pressure. 😔 Hello, Sleepless. Yes, you got severe withdrawal syndrome from going off Paxil and now you are very sensitive. Your doctors need to work with this. Keep your expectations low, they won't know how to repair your withdrawal syndrome and they don't understand the hypersensitivity. It sounds like your thyroid medication is causing adverse effects. Anxiety, tachycardia, and elevated blood pressure are symptoms of too much thyroid hormone. You might ask your thyroid doctor to stop treating to the test results for some months, while your hypersensitivity settles down. If you can find a low dose of thyroid hormone you can tolerate, such as 10mcg, you may be able to very gradually increase it by, say 1mcg, every couple of weeks. This will require the help of a compounding pharmacy. Diazepam is not unreasonable to treat severe Paxil withdrawal syndrome, but even at a low dose, you will become dependent on it. We know this. We will help you taper off. What is your daily drug schedule, with dosages? Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern? Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. This can show if your symptoms are adverse effects from one of your drugs. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 I do not have a thyroid due to previous cancer. So my dosage has to be fairly high. I was on 75mcg of levothyroxine and had physical symptoms of hypothyroid. I was bumped up to 88mcg and then 100mcg. I started having issues at 100mcg after a day or two. I am now taking 80mcg. I use a scale to weigh it. I’ve been given permission to split my dosage. I’ll start keeping notes beginning tonight. Thyroid medication is all I regularly take. Diazepam does help and I thought about taking it regularly. If I dissolve it in milk do you know how long it would keep in the refrigerator? I couldn’t find an answer. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 @Altostrata Here is what you requested. 11-8 4:40pm: chest pain relieved by laying down, skin of upper arms burning. Took 43mcg levothyroxine. 6:00pm: muscles of jaws, neck, shoulders and upper arms begin to spasm. 6:30pm: showered 8:00pm: used heating pad and muscles loosened up some. 9:00pm: muscles in torso are twitching 9:30pm: fell asleep with meditation. Feels like lungs are irritated where chest was hurting. 11-9 12:00am: awakened by pet. Anxiety, neck, jaw and head pain. BP 120/80. 2:40am: woke up but went back to sleep. 6:30am: woke up. Heart palpitations with HR around 100. 6:45am: took 40mcg of levothyroxine. 6:50am: HR 129 upon standing. 7:15am: showered 7:30am: chest irritation has started when standing. 7:40am: anxiety. 8:20am: muscle spasms beginning 8:40am: ate breakfast 9:10am: head pressure while at store 9:40am: spasms easing some 9:50am: ears ringing & moderate brain fog 10:15am: ate snack of walnuts 11:00am muscles now burning. Have anxiety and sadness. 11:30am: more anxiety and internal shaking 12:0pm: chest irritation again. Feels like asthma or beginning of chest cold. Peak flow test is normal. Noise & light sensitivity. Ate lunch. 12:50pm: sit down and chest tightness eases. 1:40pm: bottom of feet itching & heart palpitations 3:10pm: band of muscle tension just below boobs develop while riding in car. Chest getting tight. 3:50pm: laid down with feel up to reduce chest pain a muscle tension. 4:50pm: slight itching all over. If this is adverse reaction, here are my options: stay on current brand and hold at 80mcg, change brand with different fillers for allergies and hold at 80mcg, change to a non-filler medication and be required to take 88mcg because it’s a capsule or change to natural desiccated pill that contains t3 and t4. Could I also have developed an allergy to the medication? The two that I have taken, contain acacia. Literature states people with ragweed allergies may have trouble with this filler. I have not had an issue in the past though. I have a heart doctor appointment on Monday for test results. He has prescribed the atenolol. I cannot take it due to it triggering depression. Can you think of anything I need to ask him to do to help me? I’m not sure if he believes in WD. Overall: anxiety, sadness and itching without a rash has a increased. chest pain and muscle pain has increased slightly but not as bad as it was on 100mcg levothyroxine. BP and tachycardia is 50% better. I want to thank you for your assistance. I hope I didn’t overwhelm you with information. I understand how busy you are and I’ve tried to ask everything in one post. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 I have added some follow-up notes and corrections to my above post. The dates should be 11-6 and 11-7. 11-7 Continuation 5:00pm: took 40mcg levothyroxine 5:30pm: showered 6:30pm: supper 7:00pm: muscles tensing up 8:30pm: chest irritation/pain and slight cough 8:40pm: ears ringing 9:30pm: to sleep with meditation 11-8 1:15am: awake with heart palpitations and sore neck 2:00am: feel swollen, slightly itchy & irritated chest 3:15am: fell back to sleep 5:45am: woke up with internal shakes, heart palpitations and burning skin *no thyroid medication will be taken this morning* 7:30am: ate breakfast 8:00am: anxiety, itching, chest irritation and slight cough. 8:30am: burning skin on upper torso Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 I believe that I am allergic to my current brand of thyroid medication. I also believe that this type of medication is triggering issues with my CNS. I’m going to ask for another brand. Hopefully I can stabilize. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 I took approximately 22mcg of levothyroxine around 8:00pm and by 10:30pm my BP was 139/89 with muscle spams. I’ve since taken a pin head amount of diazepam and it’s eased some of the muscles. So it’s looking more and more like I’m gonna have to start taking it regularly for my severe SSRI WD. Could and administrator assist me? I only have 2mg pills. A tiny crumb eases my symptoms. I have no idea how to get a tiny amount measured out regularly. I want to use the least amount possible. @Shep I’ve brought this to your attention because you seem to be knowledgeable concerning benzodiazepines. If you cannot assist me, maybe you could have someone else look over my information. Thank you. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted November 9, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Sleepless said: I took approximately 22mcg of levothyroxine around 8:00pm and by 10:30pm my BP was 139/89 with muscle spams. I’ve since taken a pin head amount of diazepam and it’s eased some of the muscles. So it’s looking more and more like I’m gonna have to start taking it regularly for my severe SSRI WD. Could and administrator assist me? I only have 2mg pills. A tiny crumb eases my symptoms. I have no idea how to get a tiny amount measured out regularly. I want to use the least amount possible. @Shep I’ve brought this to your attention because you seem to be knowledgeable concerning benzodiazepines. If you cannot assist me, maybe you could have someone else look over my information. Thank you. Sleepless, this is in your signature: Quote August 2020, my husband and son was diagnosed with Covid-19. I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time What size diazepam pill are you taking? If you're only taking it for anxiety, you may want to check out YouTube for some non-drug coping techniques. There are many guided videos. Here is one: The Breathing Space by Jon Kabat Zinn video (4 minutes) I'll quote one of ChessieCat's great posts with some wonderful resources: On 11/3/2020 at 12:31 AM, ChessieCat said: This site has some excellent self help resources (scroll down for links to various topics) including the First Aid for Panic mp3s: Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Female voice - getselfhelp.co.uk Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Male voice - getselfhelp.co.uk https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/selfhelp.htm Dr Claire Weekes was an Australia doctor who suffered from and taught ways to cope with anxiety: dr-claire-weekes-method Audio: How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes And you can find more ideas here: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Once you post how much diazepam you're taking (or at least the pill size so we get an idea of the dose), we can discuss more about that. But I would really encourage you to take a look at these resources, as they are very powerful ways of calming down and learning to self-sooth so you can let go of these dangerous drugs for good. 10 hours ago, Sleepless said: I believe that I am allergic to my current brand of thyroid medication. I also believe that this type of medication is triggering issues with my CNS. I’m going to ask for another brand. Hopefully I can stabilize. 😔 Please let us know what you find out about this. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 I have been prescribed 2mg of diazepam for anxiety. I have taken no more than a crumb of it once or twice a month. I’ve been using non-drug techniques for anxiety and coping about as well to be expected. I do not want to use this medication, but I may not have a choice. My CNS is so sensitive I cannot get my thyroid levels adjusted. I do not have a thyroid. So incorrect levels just adds to my problems. I will be speaking with my endocrinologist and heart doctor today. I will let you know what they say. Thank you for responding. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 The heart doctor believes my tachycardia is due to thyroid issues. He wasn’t too concerned that my heart rate would reach 127 some days. I informed him that I could not take atenolol regularly because it made me depressed (current prescription). He wants me to try metoprolol instead. Does anyone have an opinion concerning this medication? I have not heard back from the endocrinologist yet. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Sleepless said: The heart doctor believes my tachycardia is due to thyroid issues. He wasn’t too concerned that my heart rate would reach 127 some days. I informed him that I could not take atenolol regularly because it made me depressed (current prescription). He wants me to try metoprolol instead. I just spoke with the endocrinologist. She is going to change my medication to Tirosint 88mcg. This medication has no fillers and comes in a capsule. I’ve read that the capsule can be opened and added to water. This will allow me to adjust my dosage. She also believes that I am releasing histamine due to a rare illness that I have (Dercum’s disease). Some days, I wonder if I am going to actually survive all of this.... Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted November 10, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 10, 2020 Sleepless, I do believe you will survive. I understand that at times, it certainly seems like we won't. The overwhelming evidence from those that have walked this path before us... is that we do survive. Sending you solidarity and strength. 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
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