Sleepless Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 52 minutes ago, SkyBlue said: Sleepless, I do believe you will survive. I understand that at times, it certainly seems like we won't. The overwhelming evidence from those that have walked this path before us... is that we do survive. Sending you solidarity and strength. Thank you for the words of encouragement. I really needed them. ❤️ Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 My anxiety, tachycardia and muscle spasms came back with a vengeance around 1:15pm today. I have not had any thyroid medication for 2 days. The last medication I had was a grain of diazepam around 2:30am on Monday. I guess the diazepam was suppressing my CNS. I am doing everything I can to avoid taking it. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 So I took .50mg of metoprolol tartrate tonight for my tachycardia. I have nausea and my arms/legs feel like jelly. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted November 11, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/9/2020 at 5:50 PM, Sleepless said: The heart doctor believes my tachycardia is due to thyroid issues. He wasn’t too concerned that my heart rate would reach 127 some days. I informed him that I could not take atenolol regularly because it made me depressed (current prescription). He wants me to try metoprolol instead. Does anyone have an opinion concerning this medication? We're not medical professionals here, so we cannot recommend drugs. All we can do is help you with a harm-reduction method of slow tapering psychiatric drugs. Please work with your doctor for other health issues. You may also want to join a forum specific to your health conditions or an overall wellness site with holistic aims, if you wish to treat other health condition without drugs. 19 hours ago, Sleepless said: She also believes that I am releasing histamine due to a rare illness that I have (Dercum’s disease). You may want to go on a special diet to address histamine sensitivities: Histamine food intolerance On 11/9/2020 at 8:30 AM, Sleepless said: I have been prescribed 2mg of diazepam for anxiety. I have taken no more than a crumb of it once or twice a month. I’ve been using non-drug techniques for anxiety and coping about as well to be expected. If you're only taking a tiny bit of diazepam once or twice a month, you should be fine. Sounds like you're doing well with non-drug techniques, like you say, as well as can be expected. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 I believe my tachycardia, chest pain and muscle spasms are due to severe SSRI WD as the muscle spasm began the past few weeks. A small amount of Diazepam is the only medication that seems to relieve these issues. Once I take it, I feel normal. If I decide to start taking it more regularly, how do I convert the tablet to a liquid to get my grain size amount? Does the liquid last very long in the refrigerator? I do not want to have to do this. This will be my last option. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Can someone explain why people in WD start having blood pressure spikes at night? I’ve never had issues with blood pressure before. I’m currently 6 months into CT WD. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 So, I started having my daily upper body muscle spasms. Then about 30 minutes later they just stopped. I hadn’t taken anything or did anything. I’m hoping this is a sign that my brain is healing.... Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted November 12, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 1:59 PM, Sleepless said: Thank you for the words of encouragement. I really needed them. ❤️ You're very welcome. 💖 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 So... Today is day 5 of taking a normal dose of thyroid medication. After last night, I feel like my recovery has been set back 2 months. All night I had sweats, my skin burned, chemical anxiety, all of my muscles were tight, I felt like I kept having to remind myself to breathe and I had akathisia. I managed to micro sleep with the help of meditation videos. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted November 18, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 18, 2020 Hello, just saw your post : On 11/10/2020 at 4:33 PM, Sleepless said: She also believes that I am releasing histamine due to a rare illness that I have (Dercum’s disease). You might be interested by this thread : https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/3503-histamine-food-intolerance/ Hang on ❤️ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Thanks 🙂 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 I’ve had a few horrible days... I’m 9 days into my increased thyroid medication. This has activated my CNS. I have muscle spasms every day from the shoulders up. I figured out that drinking milk eases the spasms. So I took a total of 1500 mg of calcium throughout the day thinking my level was too low. This triggered awful WD symptoms later that night. I would have never thought that calcium would do that. So here I sit, in pain, anxious and depressed. It’s been bad enough today, I almost broke down and tried to reinstate. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope that my CNS symptoms will slowly ease up as my thyroid levels out. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 I’m 12 days into my thyroid medication change... I had a decent morning and was able to take a nap in my bedroom. This is an accomplishment. For the past 2 months, I’ve had to sleep in the living room due to my bedroom being claustrophobic. 😔 I think I’ve also figured out what is causing my muscle spasms. My thyroid medication is increasing my serotonin levels rapidly every time I take it because I was fairly hypothyroid. It’s as if I’m having serotonin toxicity every time I take it. I had the same type of spasms before I stopped the SSRI. I’ve managed to split my dose into morning and evening. This has reduced the spasms slightly. I hope that as my thyroid level rises, the spasms will ease. If anyone has another theory, I would be happy to hear it. 🙂 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Ronja Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Oh, just wanted to say ❤️. I am sorry for your pain and everything you are going through. Setraline on and off since 2008 Mid 2008-mid 2009 50 mg Mid 2011-april 2013 50mg jan 2016 - november 2017 50mg and the last May 2018 12,5 mg, July 2018 25 mg, Aug 2018 50mg, april 2019 75 mg June 2019 50 mg, Aug 2019 25 mg Okt 2019 12,5 mg Dec 2019 6,25 mg Jan 2020 off Link to comment
Sleepless Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ronja said: Oh, just wanted to say ❤️. I am sorry for your pain and everything you are going through. Thank you. 🙂 I am slowly getting better. It’s just going to take time. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 I am 7 months free from sertraline after a rapid taper. It has been the hardest 7 months of my life. I am not ashamed to admit that in my weakest moments, I prayed that I would just go to sleep and never wake up. I didn't think I could make it another day. I guess it wasn't my time because I am still here. I may not see improvements each day, but I am having windows and waves. I am getting better and my days are slowly getting brighter.... 🙂 My issues from the Glenmullen checklist: Low Energy/fatigue 5 Worsened mood 2 Trouble Concentrating 3 Trouble sleeping 3 Changes in appetite 3 Anxious, nervous, tense 3 Chest pain 3 Shaky, jittery 2 Irritability 1 Cognitive/memory problems 4 Intense dreaming 4 Flu like aches/pains/inflammation 5 Sweats/Chills 1 Disequilibrium 3 Unsteady gait 2 Burning/dry skin issues 5 Abnormal vision sensations 4 Ringing Ears 5 Muscle cramps, stiffness, twitching 5 Blurred vision 5 Restless legs 1 Not listed on the checklist: food, supplement, noise, emotion and exercise sensitivity 5 Stress intolerance 5 Claustrophobia 2 Constipation 4 POTS symptoms 4 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Mentor DaBro Posted December 2, 2020 Mentor Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hi @Sleepless I’m 25 months post a FT from 25mg Zoloft. Insomnia has been a constant struggle for me. It started 3 months after stopping and got worse with time with the worst time being 12-18 months after stopping. I’m pleased to say in the last month I’ve been sleeping better with some full nights for the first time in ages and just 1 or 2 bad nights a week. I refuse to go back on the medication so have stuck it out. I’ve tried all kinds of supplements, diets and things and have come to the conclusion that the best things to help are patience and acceptance and when you can’t sleep just rest and try to empty your mind. The only thing I take is fish oil and Magnesium Glycinate in the evening which I find does calm the mind a little. I know how hard it is and I’ve had the ‘I can’t do this any more’ moments but it’s healing and I figure the best thing I can do is let my body do it’s thing without giving it more things to deal with. Yes I get angry at the pain the medication has caused but what’s done is done and I refuse to restart the clock taking it again. You will get better. Be kind to yourself and patient. Look at Insomnia as part of the healing process, not as another bad night. I have spent many hours with my Cat and Kindle in the small hours. Hang in there. 3 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment
Sleepless Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Thank you @DaBro. 🙂 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Krisseyb Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, DaBro said: Yes I get angry at the pain the medication has caused but what’s done is done and I refuse to restart the clock taking it again. You will get better. Be kind to yourself and patient. Look at Insomnia as part of the healing process, not as another bad night. Love this! I'm going to have to look at insomnia as part of the healing process for sure!! And not "another bad night" 1 2005-2020 diff AD for trouble sleeping, switched multiple times. 2020 Dec Escitalopram 10 mg 2021 Jan 10 mg -start BMS taper w/2 wk hold 2022 March 3.63 mg 2022 July 2.65 mg 2022 November 1.96 mg 2023 February 1.48 mg 2023 August .90 mg .25mg Melatonin (as needed) Link to comment
Mentor DaBro Posted December 2, 2020 Mentor Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, DaBro said: Hi @Sleepless I’m 25 months post a FT from 25mg Zoloft. Insomnia has been a constant struggle for me. It started 3 months after stopping and got worse with time with the worst time being 12-18 months after stopping. I’m pleased to say in the last month I’ve been sleeping better with some full nights for the first time in ages and just 1 or 2 bad nights a week. I refuse to go back on the medication so have stuck it out. I’ve tried all kinds of supplements, diets and things and have come to the conclusion that the best things to help are patience and acceptance and when you can’t sleep just rest and try to empty your mind. The only thing I take is fish oil and Magnesium Glycinate in the evening which I find does calm the mind a little. I know how hard it is and I’ve had the ‘I can’t do this any more’ moments but it’s healing and I figure the best thing I can do is let my body do it’s thing without giving it more things to deal with. Yes I get angry at the pain the medication has caused but what’s done is done and I refuse to restart the clock taking it again. You will get better. Be kind to yourself and patient. Look at Insomnia as part of the healing process, not as another bad night. I have spent many hours with my Cat and Kindle in the small hours. Hang in there. This article is long and specifically for CFS, but it explains how our neurotransmitters work in balance and how any imbalance caused issues which have a lot in common with ADWD. The living in a wired state section near the end is a good explanation why we can’t sleep. Our healing brains are constantly building new and fine tuning levels of neurotransmitters which work together in harmony. If we throw stuff like 5htp and st Johns wort at it it’s only going to slow getting the balance right. You can see he’s not too complimentary of SSRIs https://www.drlamcoaching.com/adrenal-fatigue/complications/chemical-imbalance-neurotransmitters-and-afs/ 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment
Wania Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Sleepless, are You still on thyroid med? 12.2017-02.2018 Mirtazapine - started adverse reactions after 2 months use and stopped without problems 04.2018 Amitryptyline 25mg 07.2019 Stopping Amitryptyline and starting Escitalopram 10 mg, stopping after a week and coming back to Amitryptyline 01.2020 starting Amitryptyline withdrawal, after a month of too fast tapper (from 25mg to 10mg) developed migraines, didnt connect the dots. 02.2020 went to ER with migraine, got IV torecan and developed severe akathisia (severe restless feeling throughout the body, panic, constant fear) and landed in psych ward. 4 days on benzos, Duoleksetine for 3 days, then back on Ami 30mg. Was stable, symptom free 03.2020 coming home and started Amitryptyline withdrawal again. I wasnt aware of need of slow tappering, psych alway told me to cut in half for few days. Decided to do it slower then she recommended, but it was still too fast.Cut to 20mg when got home (so was on 30mg just a week). 04.2020 Cut to 15mg. Felt amazing for a week, then cut to 13,5mg. Felt amazing another week. Cut to 12mg. After a week developed migraines again. Then connected dots that they are withdrawal migraines. Tried to up my doze again cause migraines were severe. Took 15 mg and got adverse reaction, akathisia came back, had jerking brain zaps all night long, didnt sleep. Next day took 12 mg again. Since then (25.04.2020) Im on 12mg again. 26.04.2020 added propranolol cause akathisia was too severe 10mg 2 times a day. 08.05 still on 12mg amitryptyline, upped propranolol to 10mg 3 times a day cause yesterday akatisia hit out of nowhere very severe, wanted to got o hospital afraid of my life. 31.05 goes to 11mg. 08.07 goes to 10mg. 22.07 bullyeyes rash, infected with Lyme. 20.08 goes to 9mg. 14.10 goes to 8,5mg. After hospital stay with my daughter (15.11) started feeling worse, reacting to citrus fruits with extreme weakness and panic. Getting more symptoms. 12.2 as I wasnt feeling better decided to reduce to 8mg. No change for better or worse. 23.3 started 10 mg propranolol two times a day. 30.04 reduced propr to 15 mg. 05.05 went to 7,5mg Ami. 23.06 went to 7mg Ami. 22.08 6,5mg Ami. 20.12 6mg Ami. 12.2 5,4mg Ami. Still reacting to chemicals, foods. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Wania said: Sleepless, are You still on thyroid med? Yes. I have to take it for life because I do not have a thyroid gland. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Wania Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Do You tolerate it better now? You were struggling in the beggining as I read. 12.2017-02.2018 Mirtazapine - started adverse reactions after 2 months use and stopped without problems 04.2018 Amitryptyline 25mg 07.2019 Stopping Amitryptyline and starting Escitalopram 10 mg, stopping after a week and coming back to Amitryptyline 01.2020 starting Amitryptyline withdrawal, after a month of too fast tapper (from 25mg to 10mg) developed migraines, didnt connect the dots. 02.2020 went to ER with migraine, got IV torecan and developed severe akathisia (severe restless feeling throughout the body, panic, constant fear) and landed in psych ward. 4 days on benzos, Duoleksetine for 3 days, then back on Ami 30mg. Was stable, symptom free 03.2020 coming home and started Amitryptyline withdrawal again. I wasnt aware of need of slow tappering, psych alway told me to cut in half for few days. Decided to do it slower then she recommended, but it was still too fast.Cut to 20mg when got home (so was on 30mg just a week). 04.2020 Cut to 15mg. Felt amazing for a week, then cut to 13,5mg. Felt amazing another week. Cut to 12mg. After a week developed migraines again. Then connected dots that they are withdrawal migraines. Tried to up my doze again cause migraines were severe. Took 15 mg and got adverse reaction, akathisia came back, had jerking brain zaps all night long, didnt sleep. Next day took 12 mg again. Since then (25.04.2020) Im on 12mg again. 26.04.2020 added propranolol cause akathisia was too severe 10mg 2 times a day. 08.05 still on 12mg amitryptyline, upped propranolol to 10mg 3 times a day cause yesterday akatisia hit out of nowhere very severe, wanted to got o hospital afraid of my life. 31.05 goes to 11mg. 08.07 goes to 10mg. 22.07 bullyeyes rash, infected with Lyme. 20.08 goes to 9mg. 14.10 goes to 8,5mg. After hospital stay with my daughter (15.11) started feeling worse, reacting to citrus fruits with extreme weakness and panic. Getting more symptoms. 12.2 as I wasnt feeling better decided to reduce to 8mg. No change for better or worse. 23.3 started 10 mg propranolol two times a day. 30.04 reduced propr to 15 mg. 05.05 went to 7,5mg Ami. 23.06 went to 7mg Ami. 22.08 6,5mg Ami. 20.12 6mg Ami. 12.2 5,4mg Ami. Still reacting to chemicals, foods. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 I am tolerating it better. It was a major struggle for a while. My tachycardia, muscle spasms, blood pressure spikes and POTS symptoms are 75% better. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 I am now 8 months free from sertraline due to a rapid taper. I continue to see slow improvements. My mental symptoms have improved quite a bit unless I do something to trigger them such as eat something I shouldn't. I've also developed some type of burning rash on my elbows. Hopefully I will see great improvements this year.... My issues from the Glenmullen checklist: Low Energy/fatigue 4 Worsened mood 0 Trouble Concentrating 1 Trouble sleeping 1 Changes in appetite 0 Anxious, nervous, tense 1 Chest pain 0 Shaky, jittery 0 Irritability 1 Cognitive/memory problems 2 Intense dreaming 1 Flu like aches/pains/inflammation 5 Sweats/Chills 2 Disequilibrium 1 Unsteady gait 1 Burning/dry skin issues 5 Abnormal vision sensations 1 Ringing Ears 3 Muscle cramps, stiffness, twitching 5 Blurred vision 2 Restless legs 0 Not listed on the checklist: food, supplement, noise, emotion, sunlight and exercise sensitivity 5 Stress intolerance 5 Claustrophobia 1 Constipation 4 POTS symptoms 2 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted January 2, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 2, 2021 Very glad to read you're seeing improvements, Sleepless. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’m slowly healing. I’m still nowhere near normal yet though. I’ve developed an extreme sensitivity to sunlight. I don’t have any issues with electronics or household lights. So I’m not sure why it’s just sunlight. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 My psychiatrist suggested that I try earthing. So I finally attempted it today. I used the mat for 5 mins. I could feel the tingling in my feet. I can feel a decreased amount of muscle and joint pain. But.... I’m not sure if my nervous system can handle it yet. Afterwards, I became a little dizzy, slightly nauseous, increased noise sensitivity and my tinnitus started up again. I’ll hold off on trying it again for a while and maybe only only do 1 min. next time. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 My earthing test has turned out to be a failure. I’m now in a huge wave. Throughout the night I had chills, horrible sweating, moderate anxiety, jaw clenching, tinnitus, increased burning in elbows/knees, slight dizziness and heart palpitations. Hopefully it won’t take too many days for my nervous system to settle back down. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted January 5, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 5, 2021 Sleepless, is there anything else that may have tripped this wave? Any changes in diet or schedule over the New Year holiday? Also, from your signature, you recently started taking liquid B12. How much are you taking? Please note that some people find B12 too stimulating to handle during withdrawal. For a thorough overview of this vitamin, please see the first 6 posts of this thread: Vitamin B12: essential for mood, nervous system Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 I was only taking 1 tiny droplet of liquid b12. I’ve stopped that for a few days. I’m 99% sure it was the earthing treatment. I was doing ok the first part of the day and then I started going down hill after the treatment. The chills and night sweats were not as bad last night. Hopefully this setback will over with in about a week. Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 Still in a rough wave. Praying for it to ease up. 😔 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 I’ve been diagnosed with Telogen effluvium aka excessive hair shedding. It’s been happening for about 2 months now. Hopefully it will stop soon. I’ve also developed a more serious problem. I’ve started reacting (itching without rash) to my third thyroid medication. I’m currently taking Tirosint which only contains levothyroxine sodium, glycerin and water. According to my doctor, my labs show that it’s not a true allergic reaction. She wants me to take Tagamet, an H2 antagonist, to see if that helps. I do not want to take anything that affects brain receptors but I have to take thyroid medication. I just don’t know what to do. @AltostrataDo you have any thoughts or suggestions? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 17, 2021 Author Share Posted January 17, 2021 How is your body expected to heal when it rejects foods and supplements it needs to survive??? This food triggers allergies. That supplement triggers allergies. This food triggers anxiety. That food triggers anxiety. Sorry. I just needed to vent. 😤 Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted January 17, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 17, 2021 Sleepless, while we don't have staff trained in advising people on other medical conditions, you may want to have a read of this thread, if you haven't already: Thyroid symptoms: hypothyroid, Hashimoto's Unfortunately, having a compromised nervous system does make taking care of any medical condition harder, but as you heal from withdrawal, you'll be able to tolerate more of the foods and medications that you need. On 1/15/2021 at 7:10 PM, Sleepless said: I’ve been diagnosed with Telogen effluvium aka excessive hair shedding. It’s been happening for about 2 months now. Hopefully it will stop soon. I googled this and read that it's caused by a stressful event and your hair will grow back. So another thing that will get better as the stress of withdrawal ends and your nervous system gains strength and resiliency. 8 hours ago, Sleepless said: Sorry. I just needed to vent. 😤 And with good reason! Hopefully you'll see some improvements soon. Until then, eat as healthy as possible, take a walk every day in nature, if possible, and nurture your nervous system as much as you can. Link to comment
Sleepless Posted January 17, 2021 Author Share Posted January 17, 2021 @Shep I have a question.... Based upon your experience, would you take needed vitamin d even though it upsets your nervous system? Does the nervous system get used to it or does it stay destabilized until you stop it? Paxil 2001- 2016. Came off of it on a slow taper. After 9-12 months, I was put back on Paxil because I was unable to function. Paxil reinstatement triggered a rash. I was then placed on 20 mg of Cymbalta on 2018. I chose to take 10 mg. I then had to be taken off of Cymbalta due to it causing cardiac issues in 2019. I was placed on Seroquel and it caused a rash. I was then moved to 12.5 mg of sertraline where I did a fast taper which ended April/May of 2020. I had to fast taper because of joint pain and joint redness. August 2020, I was considered presumptive positive. Since then, I’ve been prescribed Atenolol and Diazepam for withdrawal symptoms of tachycardia and massive anxiety. I take these very sporadically and less than 1/4 of a tablet at a time. I was given metformin in September 2020 for diabetes and it triggered massive anxiety after 1/4 of a pill. I attempted to reinstate 1 mg of sertraline on 9/20/20. I am supposed to be taking B12 injections and prescribed vitamin D. I will stop these for now. On 9/29/20 I was moved from 75 mcg generic levothyroxine to 88 mcg Synthroid. This triggered anxiety approximately 2.5 hours later. 10/5/20 less than 1/8 teaspoon of Benadryl 10/7/20 & 10/8/20 .10ml Benadryl (stopped 10/2020) 10/9/20 3mg Atenolol (stopped 11/2020) 10/16/20 started taking magnesium citrate during the day (stopped 10/2020 due to it triggering more anxiety) 11/9/20 grain of diazepam @ 2:30 am for muscle spasm pain (stopped 11/2020) 11/10/20 .50mg of metoprolol tartrate (stopped 11/10/20 due to nausea, weakness in arms & legs, anxiety) 11/11/20 using lidocaine patch on neck and chest for pain due to muscle spasms 1/1/21 1 drop of liquid b12 (stopped 1/4/21) Link to comment
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